Everytime these virtue signal retards run their mouth regarding the rental issue, when got issue claim from them can? All damages due to sampah tenant you cover then okayla..if not diam7 sei sohai. So easy talk when you're not the one dealing with the aftermath of nightmare tenant.

most of the peranakans or baba nyonyas in penang, melaka or singapore are actually very sinicized already and should be considered as chinese more than peranakans, u can just see it from their faces lol, most of them just look like normal chinese, because last time during their forefather days, many baba nyonya families took in wives from china and they married pure chinese instead of malay or other races during that time

their 1st generation indeed marry malay wives and they have malay ancestors but thats only for the 1st gen, the following generations after that are mostly marrying pure chinese already, thats why until now they can maintain their chinese looks even after so many generations

u want to see the real peranakans, look at the terengganu and kelantan peranakans(mixed with siamese), they look more like siamese ppl than chinese, or the cina benteng in indonesia that look more like indon than chinese ppl

Baba Nyonya does not refer to Chinese-Malay mix. Read up the history of why the word was even used. Baba was used to refer to Chinese men and Nyonya was used to refer to foreign woman. So how can they be from "Malay lineage" if both terms specifically refer to foreigners?

I don't know where this idea come from that Peranakans or Baba Nyonya means must have mixed ancestry.

Also, FYI, a Chinese+Malay mix does not make you Peranakan or Baba Nyonya. If today a Chinese marry a Malay, that doesn't make them Peranakan.

Peranakan solely refers to early settlers of Chinese folks, the first wave of Chinese migration. Because they settled here very early on, they adopted a lot of Malay culture specifically food, language, clothes, etc, but they don't necessarily have to. It has nothing to do marrying Malay woman (or men), but some do intermarry, but MOSTLY they do not. Go look at every photos of Peranakan taken from today or 100 years ago, they all have typical Cina face.

The children of these early Chinese settlers (aka Baba Nyonya) are called Peranakan, hence why the word "anak" in it. Hence all their descendants are also Peranakans. That's all. There's no special requirement of mixed ancestry or lineage or whatever, but it may exist

This post has been edited by trojandude: Today, 01:29 AM

most baba nyonya families will have at least 1 malay ancestor(on the female side), i read the book by prof Khoo Kay Kim (a famous historian and a true baba nyonya/peranakan), he mentioned in his book that he have a female malay ancestor when his forefather came to Malaya long long time ago and marry a local malay lady, and his family have record of every generation and passed down to future generations so he get to know about it, and he also mentioned for almost all peranakan families during that time also similar to his forefather married local malay lady because during that time they cannot bring women over to Malaya, and then after some time when things got better then only the later generations have money to bring over women from china and marry them or marry those chinese who just set foot in Malaya during that time

and thus the peranakan culture developed when the 1st gen of the forefathers of peranakans came from china and marry local malays, if those forefathers didnt marry local malay ladies, then the mix of chinese and malay culture will not develop

Baba & Nonya in are descendent of Chinese immigrant who settler in malaya long time a go. They basically are ethnically Chinese but culturally Malay.

Like you pointed out there are some who married local and some who did not marry local.

Marrying Malay is not prerequisite for Baba & Nonya


Culture can mix with out marrying similar to Malaysian follow Arab, European, Korean, Japanese culture not necessary married one.

Note: I am noy saying they follow all but some part of it.
- if in modern Malaysia, we do that ( follow certain aspect of these culture without them being here, there is high chance the earlier settler follow Malay culture because they are a minority and surrounded by Malay culture back then

This post has been edited by Lesane: Today, 09:07 AM

trojandude and rooney723

Both of you are correct, and I'm not trying to be conciliatory.

Am writing this as one who has Fujian ancestors of Chinese-Persian ethnicity who migrated to British Malaya along with their womenfolk (not as impoverished coolies) by way of sailing ship, and fell into the Peranakan way of life. Chinese-Malay lineage is not a prerequisite.

And I'm related by way of marriage to the late Prof Emeritus Khoo (not that it counts for anything). On the Bornean Hokkien side of the family, not one considers themselves to be "Peranakan"; I prefer to simplify matters and am quite content to be termed "Malaysian" or BolehLandian

Maybe this quip from the Singkie gahmen could further clarify matters:

https://www.nhb.gov.sg/peranakanmuseum/lear...-the-peranakans

And now i must put on a PH baseball cap and tend to matters...a state election looms!!
Moving along now....

he's just another self loathing amdk

Something wrong with this guy

This post has been edited by SourLemons: Today, 09:27 AM

I rented house to India family, to a Malay widow, now an Indonesia couple with new born.
Where is my praise?

damn, a widow

Socmed really cesspool for orang gila.

I rented to an Indian family (Christian) as well. No issue for the past 5 years. They just moved out and now renting to a type C. I don't care the type but I'm picky on their background. Those having issues one is because they rely on agents and never interview the tenants directly.

I rejected a few type until I found this current tenant. Just do more screening like a job interview.