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post Mar 7 2024, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 5 2024, 01:47 AM)
One perk that I just found out today… I got offered the use of the Maybank Lounge at the National Stadium where I could enjoy Taylor Swift’s concert in air conditioned comfort this coming Saturday. My RM sent me a text with the invitation.

I told her thanks but no thanks, not a Swiftie haha.

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Good info, bro,... Got DBS Lounge there ?
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post Mar 20 2024, 11:02 PM

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post Apr 25 2024, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 7 2024, 03:32 PM)
Good info, bro,... Got DBS Lounge there ?
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Sorry I must have missed this tag bro.

No, I’ve never been invited by DBS for any of the concerts at the National Stadium. I could ask my banker but he’ll probably come back and ask me to buy more stuff from him so I’d rather not disturb him unless I have to hahaha.
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post Apr 25 2024, 03:00 AM

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Update on privileges for UOB Private Bank (min AUM SGD 5m) - preferential savings rates in High Yield Account of 3.3% with no need for monthly spending as long as you keep more than SGD200,000 in it.
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post May 1 2024, 09:28 PM

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Another update for OCBC Premier Dividend holders in Singapore. 3.5% interest for balance if you put in SGD10,000 per month with no withdrawal.

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post May 6 2024, 06:24 AM

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Tq for above updates, bro hksgmy,...
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post May 6 2024, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 6 2024, 06:24 AM)
Tq for above updates, bro hksgmy,...
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No worries. I'm happy to be able to contribute the little that I know.
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post May 6 2024, 01:57 PM

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I got asked a question by another forum user via private message, but I thought it was a useful question - and since I didn't have a direct answer for him, I'd share my answer and invite others to chip in:

Here's my answer:

Hi, sorry I'm not priority status with SCB here in Singapore (where I'm based). I have priority/premier/privilege status with:

1. OCBC (Premier Dividend Private) - it's a step up from Premier, but a step down from full Private banking - that's only in Singapore

2. HSBC (you choose your country to base the minimum AUM, and the minimum AUM varies per country. In Singapore, it's SGD250,000 for in Australia, it's only AUD200,000 - so I transferred from being domiciled in Singapore, to being domiciled in Australia). However, for HSBC, in order for you to be domiciled somewhere, you need to demonstrate reasons. Eg. studies in the UK (domicile in UK). In our case, we are PRs of Australia, so they accepted the transfer, although we are still based and work in Singapore

I'm normal status with Citibank, SCB

I bank privately with UOB, Maybank and DBS

I have priority/premier/privilege status with:

1. OCBC (Premier Dividend Private) - it's a step up from Premier, but a step down from full Private banking - that's only in Singapore, and AFAIK, OCBC Wing Hang in HK does not have any automatic tie up access with OCBC in Singapore.

2. HSBC (you choose your country to base the minimum AUM, and the minimum AUM varies per country. In Singapore, it's SGD250,000 for in Australia, it's only AUD200,000 - so I transferred from being domiciled in Singapore, to being domiciled in Australia). However, for HSBC, in order for you to be domiciled somewhere, you need to demonstrate reasons. Eg. studies in the UK (thus you can be domiciled in UK). In our case, we are PRs of Australia, so they accepted the transfer of primary Premier account to Australia, although we are still based and work in Singapore.

I'm normal status with Citibank, SCB - hence I don't know if you can open an SCB account in HK from Malaysia, and whether you'll need to maintain the minimum required AUM separately, or does SCB do it like how HSBC does.

If anyone has the answer to this, I'm sure the forum user would be grateful.

This post has been edited by hksgmy: May 6 2024, 08:59 PM
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post May 6 2024, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 6 2024, 01:57 PM)
I got asked a question by another forum user via private message, but I thought it was a useful question - and since I didn't have a direct answer for him, I'd share my answer and invite others to chip in:

Here's my answer:

Hi, sorry I'm not priority status with SCB here in Singapore (where I'm based). I have priority/premier/privilege status with:

1. OCBC (Premier Dividend Private) - it's a step up from Premier, but a step down from full Private banking - that's only in Singapore

2. HSBC (you choose your country to base the minimum AUM, and the minimum AUM varies per country. In Singapore, it's SGD250,000 for in Australia, it's only AUD200,000 - so I transferred from being domiciled in Singapore, to being domiciled in Australia). However, for HSBC, in order for you to be domiciled somewhere, you need to demonstrate reasons. Eg. studies in the UK (domicile in UK). In our case, we are PRs of Australia, so they accepted the transfer, although we are still based and work in Singapore

I'm normal status with Citibank, SCB

I bank privately with UOB, Maybank and DBS

I have priority/premier/privilege status with:

1. OCBC (Premier Dividend Private) - it's a step up from Premier, but a step down from full Private banking - that's only in Singapore, and AFAIK, OBCB Wing Hang in HK does not have any automatic tie up access with OCBC in Singapore.

2. HSBC (you choose your country to base the minimum AUM, and the minimum AUM varies per country. In Singapore, it's SGD250,000 for in Australia, it's only AUD200,000 - so I transferred from being domiciled in Singapore, to being domiciled in Australia). However, for HSBC, in order for you to be domiciled somewhere, you need to demonstrate reasons. Eg. studies in the UK (thus you can be domiciled in UK). In our case, we are PRs of Australia, so they accepted the transfer of primary Premier account to Australia, although we are still based and work in Singapore.

I'm normal status with Citibank, SCB - hence I don't know if you can open an SCB account in HK from Malaysia, and whether you'll need to maintain the minimum required AUM separately, or does SCB do it like how HSBC does.

If anyone has the answer to this, I'm sure the forum user would be grateful.
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I also got the PM. But I really dunno.

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post May 6 2024, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 6 2024, 01:57 PM)
I got asked a question by another forum user via private message, but I thought it was a useful question - and since I didn't have a direct answer for him, I'd share my answer and invite others to chip in:

Here's my answer:

Hi, sorry I'm not priority status with SCB here in Singapore (where I'm based). I have priority/premier/privilege status with:

1. OCBC (Premier Dividend Private) - it's a step up from Premier, but a step down from full Private banking - that's only in Singapore

2. HSBC (you choose your country to base the minimum AUM, and the minimum AUM varies per country. In Singapore, it's SGD250,000 for in Australia, it's only AUD200,000 - so I transferred from being domiciled in Singapore, to being domiciled in Australia). However, for HSBC, in order for you to be domiciled somewhere, you need to demonstrate reasons. Eg. studies in the UK (domicile in UK). In our case, we are PRs of Australia, so they accepted the transfer, although we are still based and work in Singapore

I'm normal status with Citibank, SCB

I bank privately with UOB, Maybank and DBS

I have priority/premier/privilege status with:

1. OCBC (Premier Dividend Private) - it's a step up from Premier, but a step down from full Private banking - that's only in Singapore, and AFAIK, OBCB Wing Hang in HK does not have any automatic tie up access with OCBC in Singapore.

2. HSBC (you choose your country to base the minimum AUM, and the minimum AUM varies per country. In Singapore, it's SGD250,000 for in Australia, it's only AUD200,000 - so I transferred from being domiciled in Singapore, to being domiciled in Australia). However, for HSBC, in order for you to be domiciled somewhere, you need to demonstrate reasons. Eg. studies in the UK (thus you can be domiciled in UK). In our case, we are PRs of Australia, so they accepted the transfer of primary Premier account to Australia, although we are still based and work in Singapore.

I'm normal status with Citibank, SCB - hence I don't know if you can open an SCB account in HK from Malaysia, and whether you'll need to maintain the minimum required AUM separately, or does SCB do it like how HSBC does.

If anyone has the answer to this, I'm sure the forum user would be grateful.
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I got answer from SCB Malaysia. Your priority does not extend beyond the country your account is in.
If you have priority with SCB Malaysia, they can help you open SCB account. But it must be priority with SCB Singapore as well.

How true. I don't know. Maybe they are bluffing me also.

Anyway I will never use any priority banking as I see no reason to park money with the banks.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 6 2024, 02:28 PM
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post May 6 2024, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 6 2024, 02:27 PM)
I got answer from SCB Malaysia. Your priority does not extend beyond the country your account is in.
If you have priority with SCB Malaysia, they can help you open SCB account. But it must be priority with SCB Singapore as well.

How true. I don't know. Maybe they are bluffing me also.

Anyway I will never use any priority banking as I see no reason to park money with the banks.
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After you join their priority banking, they will start to introduce you loss-making investments and if you bodoh2 believe, then
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post May 6 2024, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 6 2024, 01:57 PM)
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2. HSBC (you choose your country to base the minimum AUM, and the minimum AUM varies per country. In Singapore, it's SGD250,000 for in Australia, it's only AUD200,000 - so I transferred from being domiciled in Singapore, to being domiciled in Australia). However, for HSBC, in order for you to be domiciled somewhere, you need to demonstrate reasons. Eg. studies in the UK (thus you can be domiciled in UK). In our case, we are PRs of Australia, so they accepted the transfer of primary Premier account to Australia, although we are still based and work in Singapore.

I'm normal status with Citibank, SCB - hence I don't know if you can open an SCB account in HK from Malaysia, and whether you'll need to maintain the minimum required AUM separately, or does SCB do it like how HSBC does.

If anyone has the answer to this, I'm sure the forum user would be grateful.
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I don't have the direct answer with exactly the same scenario (i.e. open HK account from Malaysia); but a similar one (i.e. open AU account from Malaysia). TL;DR I don't know SC Bank but only HSBC, and below are my scenarios if it helps anyone.

Context, I'm HSBC Premier Customer in MY and had pre-existing relationship with HSBC HK (basic account but enjoys same premier privilege). Note, it's basic premier (200k AUM), not the Elite premier (3mil AUM).

So when I opened my HSBC AU account, I reached out to my Premier Relationship Manager (basically a call center only now...) and I did everything from Malaysia to open my HSBC AU account. Basically they can't do much also, other than collect basic info and then route everything to HSBC INTERNATIONAL banking team. From there on, a separate team reached out to me to finalize the application and sent me a virtual link (online forms) to complete the process.

There, I proceed to apply my HSBC AU account with referral from International Banking team and I applied for BASIC HSBC AU account foreseeing that I may or may not lose my Premier status in near future (if I migrate). It's all done within 3 months and now I have:

- HSBC Premier account (MY)
- HSBC Basic account (HK) - enjoys premier from MY
- HSBC Everyday Global account (AU) - enjoys premier from MY
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A separate question since we're on this topic, hksgmy on the HSBC when you did the "domicile transfer" - are you referring to the annual HSBC tax declaration that they send? And once transferred (in your case from SG to AU), I assume that you'll now only need to maintain AUM in AUD to maintain premier in Australia, but enjoys premier status globally with the premier-charges waived both in SG and AU?

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post May 6 2024, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ May 6 2024, 02:30 PM)
After you join their priority banking, they will start to introduce you loss-making investments and if you bodoh2 believe, then
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Not every suggestion is a loss making venture la, to be fair… but I would stay clear of ILP and insurances and unit trusts if possible.

Bond funds, maybe to get a foot in if you can’t afford a whole bond.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ May 6 2024, 02:30 PM)
After you join their priority banking, they will start to introduce you loss-making investments and if you bodoh2 believe, then
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Joining priority banking != must follow their advice.

My RM gave up persuading me laugh.gif

There are also free ways to enjoy premier/priority banking without commitment (i.e. i technically skipped the 200K AUM requirement)
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 6 2024, 02:34 PM)
Not every suggestion is a loss making venture la, to be fair… but I would stay clear of ILP and insurances and unit trusts if possible.

Bond funds, maybe to get a foot in if you can’t afford a whole bond.
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my both funds with Sx all loss-making nearly 40%.

Then why I never trust them anymore and tell them go to fly kite.

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post May 6 2024, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 6 2024, 02:33 PM)
I don't have the direct answer with exactly the same scenario (i.e. open HK account from Malaysia); but a similar one (i.e. open AU account from Malaysia).

Context, I'm HSBC Premier Customer in MY and had pre-existing relationship with HSBC HK (basic account but enjoys same premier privilege). Note, it's basic premier (200k AUM), not the Elite premier (3mil AUM).

So when I opened my HSBC AU account, I reached out to my Premier Relationship Manager (basically a call center only now...) and I did everything from Malaysia to open my HSBC AU account. Basically they can't do much also, other than collect basic info and then route everything to HSBC INTERNATIONAL banking team. From there on, a separate team reached out to me to finalize the application and sent me a virtual link (online forms) to complete the process.

There, I proceed to apply my HSBC AU account with referral from International Banking team and I applied for BASIC HSBC AU account foreseeing that I may or may not lose my Premier status in near future (if I migrate). It's all done within 3 months and now I have:

- HSBC Premier account (MY)
- HSBC Basic account (HK) - enjoys premier from MY
- HSBC Everyday Global account (AU) - enjoys premier from MY

A separate question since we're on this topic, hksgmy on the HSBC when you did the "domicile transfer" - are you referring to the annual HSBC tax declaration that they send? And once transferred (in your case from SG to AU), I assume that you'll now only need to maintain AUM in AUD to maintain premier in Australia, but enjoys premier status globally with the premier-charges waived both in SG and AU?
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Domicile refers to the bank which I have to hold the min AUM to meet the requirements for Premier status. In Singapore it’s $250,000. Is only AUD200,000 in Australia so obviously I chose Australia to park the min amount.

In actual fact and in hindsight, it was unnecessary. I keep more than the min amount required in both jurisdictions.

As for taxes, I pay taxes in Australia for my HSBC earnings and I pay none in Singapore as I’m not yet a tax resident of Australia.

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 6 2024, 02:35 PM)
Joining priority banking != must follow their advice.

My RM gave up persuading me laugh.gif

There are also free ways to enjoy premier/priority banking without commitment (i.e. i technically skipped the 200K AUM requirement)
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Wah! How? Teach me sifu!!!
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 6 2024, 02:35 PM)
Joining priority banking != must follow their advice.

My RM gave up persuading me laugh.gif

There are also free ways to enjoy premier/priority banking without commitment (i.e. i technically skipped the 200K AUM requirement)
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how?
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post May 6 2024, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 6 2024, 02:39 PM)
Wah! How? Teach me sifu!!!
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QUOTE(jack2 @ May 6 2024, 02:40 PM)
how?
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Only for wage kuli like me laugh.gif I used HSBC as my salary account few years back then one day I got invited to Premier, RM said no need to pay anything and just need verbal confirmation to upgrade via Perks@Work and been maintaining since then.

My HSBC balance is always RM50 (salary masuk then keluar) for few years edi (that's why my earlier comment that I may or may not lose my Premier in the near future)

https://www.hsbcamanah.com.my/accounts/prod...k-for-employee/

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post May 6 2024, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 6 2024, 02:52 PM)
Only for wage kuli like me laugh.gif I used HSBC as my salary account few years back then one day I got invited to Premier, RM said no need to pay anything and just need verbal confirmation to upgrade via Perks@Work and been maintaining since then.

My HSBC balance is always RM50 (salary masuk then keluar) for few years edi (that's why my earlier comment that I may or may not lose my Premier in the near future)

https://www.hsbcamanah.com.my/accounts/prod...k-for-employee/
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Ah, ok. Just be careful because onboarding like this will be dependent on the good graces of the bank. I politely declined a similar offer from OCBC premier private to BOS private as I was more than what was required for their premier private but not enough for their full fledged private bank (Bank of Singapore).

Onboarding means I’ll be invited over but I’ll also be given a deadline to make good the actual required AUM.

No thabks. I’ll join only if I can make the cut.

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