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post Aug 11 2025, 11:28 AM, updated 4 months ago

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MANILA — The Philippine Coast Guard said two Chinese ships collided near Bajo de Masinloc after they fired a water cannon against a Philippine vessel and chased another.

The PCG said it deployed BRP Teresa Magbanua and BRP Suluan, along with MV Pamamalakaya, to escort 35 Filipino fishing vessels.

During the operation, Philippine vessels and fishermen “encountered hazardous maneuvers and blocking actions from other vessels in the vicinity,” PCG said.

“In particular, the MRRV 4406 was targeted with a water cannon, but the seamanship skills by PCG crew members allowed the vessel to successfully evade from getting hit,” it added.

The coast guard said that “in a related incident”, the China Coast Guard (CCG) vessel 3104 and People's Liberation Army Navy (PLA Navy) ship 164 collided some 10.5 nautical miles east of Bajo de Masinloc.

“The CCG 3104, which was chasing the BRP Suluan at high speed, performed a risky maneuver from the PCG vessel's starboard quarter, leading to the impact with the PLA Navy warship. This resulted in substantial damage to the CCG vessel's forecastle, rendering it unseaworthy,” the PCG said.

The coast guard said it offered assistance with man-overboard recovery and medical aid for any injured Chinese crew members.

The PCG added that it “safely escorted the Filipino fishermen to a secure location, where they are now being provided with essential fuel and supplies.”




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LMAO. Tried to bully others but punched ownself in the face HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Aug 11 2025, 11:36 AM)
LMAO. Tried to bully others but punched ownself in the face HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Water cannon can be used for what? Chase small sampan?
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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 11 2025, 11:38 AM)
Water cannon can be used for what? Chase small sampan?
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Annoy the hell out of you
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:37 AM)
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“The CCG 3104, which was chasing the BRP Suluan at high speed, performed a risky maneuver from the PCG vessel's starboard quarter, leading to the impact with the PLA Navy warship. This resulted in substantial damage to the CCG vessel's forecastle, rendering it unseaworthy,” the PCG said.

The coast guard said it offered assistance with man-overboard recovery and medical aid for any injured Chinese crew members.



Sunk by friendly fire and have to be rescued by Filipino Coast Guard bwahahahahaha sibeh mempersiasuikan kemaluan hahahahahaha
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Aug 11 2025, 11:40 AM)
Sunk by friendly fire and have to be rescued by Filipino Coast Guard bwahahahahaha sibeh mempersiasuikan kemaluan hahahahahaha
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Oh i missed reading this. LOL epic
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Aug 11 2025, 11:40 AM)
Sunk by friendly fire and have to be rescued by Filipino Coast Guard bwahahahahaha sibeh mempersiasuikan kemaluan hahahahahaha
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should just give middle finger and let them sink
SEA people are too nice
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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 11 2025, 11:38 AM)
Water cannon can be used for what? Chase small sampan?
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Usually to bath officers and sailors on board or free ship washing. Whichever answer you want to hear
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holy hell that is just slightly left of luzon, china so far come kacau
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All you AMDK's don't find it funny that the Filipinos all had multiple cameras at the ready and filmed everything, posted so many videos, but none of them showing any collision nor the rescue?

This Jay Tarriela previously already got caught telling lies when CCP ships rescued his fishermen, but he tried to take credit instead. And then blamed the CPC ships for hindering him instead.


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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:48 AM)
All you AMDK's don't find it funny that the Filipinos all had multiple cameras at the ready and filmed everything, posted so many videos, but none of them showing any collision nor the rescue?

This Jay Tarriela previously already got caught telling lies when CCP ships rescued his fishermen, but he tried to take credit instead. And then blamed the CPC ships for hindering him instead.


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Here comes the defender lol

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post Aug 11 2025, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:49 AM)
Here comes the defender lol
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Using critical thinking is defending now, huh?
I'd rather not be lied to...but that's just me.
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:51 AM)
Using critical thinking is defending now, huh?
I'd rather not be lied to...but that's just me.
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Bawa bertendang..dua country gaduh also does not involve us malaysian lol. U also malaysian right ? No need to pick side mah
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Aug 11 2025, 11:49 AM)
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Waiting for vietnam east sea and thailand east sea lol
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Hory shieat that few sailor on the bow of the coast guard ship got meat patty by pla ship o not? Can we both vessel side collided la
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Need to put out a show from time to time to please the master.

As MSM controlled by western power, they can sing song whatever they want.

QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:48 AM)
All you AMDK's don't find it funny that the Filipinos all had multiple cameras at the ready and filmed everything, posted so many videos, but none of them showing any collision nor the rescue?

This Jay Tarriela previously already got caught telling lies when CCP ships rescued his fishermen, but he tried to take credit instead. And then blamed the CPC ships for hindering him instead.


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QUOTE(70U63 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:58 AM)
Need to put out a show from time to time to please the master.

As MSM controlled by western power, they can sing song whatever they want.
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Wei, why u only appear on ccp related news lol. Ayam curious
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that's a 7,500 tons Type 052D destroyer the captain got balls who can pilot the behemoth this close
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this is why the east side prefer US navy to frequently visit their place

Park there few days, chinese navy guarantee won't appear
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CCP ships dirt cheap to build and repair. Minor damages are nothing.
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Hahaha day was their robotaxi and now this. Well done trying to show off. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Aug 11 2025, 12:09 PM)
that's a 7,500 tons Type 052D destroyer the captain got balls who can pilot the behemoth this close
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Weĺl seems like worth the effort bait by pinoy lol
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 11 2025, 12:09 PM)
this is why the east side prefer US navy to frequently visit their place

Park there few days, chinese navy guarantee won't appear
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Oh sure
see the infograph colonial masters where got balls against a peer opponent


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A Chinese warship has forced an American destroyer to change course in the South China Sea by sailing close to it in an "unsafe and unprofessional" manner, the US Navy says.
The USS Decatur was sailing past the Gaven and Johnson reefs in the disputed Spratly Islands, which China claims.
The Luyang destroyer "approached within 45 yards [41m] of Decatur's bow", Commander Nat Christensen said.
The US routinely angers Beijing with "freedom of navigation" missions.
The sea, home to vital shipping lanes, has in recent years become a flashpoint for tensions between China and several regional nations which have overlapping claims over islands and reefs.
Taiwan, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia and Vietnam all make claims to parts of the sea.

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:42 AM)
should just give middle finger and let them sink
SEA people are too nice
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Really too nice, that's the difference between civilised and uncivilised barbarians. CCP will leave you to drown in the sea.

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/all-gestu...os-3940276.html

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22 Filipinos left to drown by a Chinese vessel were saved by Vietnamese fishermen without understanding a word.

Awakened past midnight, the crew of a fishing boat from the Mekong Delta's Tien Giang Province understood from gestures that some strangers in the sea were seeking help, said Ngo Van Theng, owner of the TGTG-90983-TS fishing boat which made world headlines for rescuing 22 Filipino fishermen in the South China Sea, called the East Sea in Vietnam, on June 10.



Aseans have to stick together against this bully.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Aug 11 2025, 12:26 PM)
Really too nice, that's the difference between civilised and uncivilised barbarians. CCP will leave you to drown in the sea.

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/all-gestu...os-3940276.html
Aseans have to stick together against this bully.
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Let's see how Hu Xi Jin is going to whitewash this
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And they say the Chinese can win any wars waged.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 11 2025, 01:46 PM)
CCP ships dirt cheap to build and repair. Minor damages are nothing.
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cant wait one sank by own accident owai...

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QUOTE(mcchin @ Aug 11 2025, 11:49 AM)
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how is this China's sea?

CCP and their wumaos really don't use brain



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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:28 AM)
QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:48 AM)
All you AMDK's don't find it funny that the Filipinos all had multiple cameras at the ready and filmed everything, posted so many videos, but none of them showing any collision nor the rescue?

This Jay Tarriela previously already got caught telling lies when CCP ships rescued his fishermen, but he tried to take credit instead. And then blamed the CPC ships for hindering him instead.


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Nah here's the video defender. Kemaluan besar sangat lah China. Ask them go back to school study ten more years how to maneuver a ship first la
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CCP only teach their people how to bully and scam

never teach them how to control a ship
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Aug 11 2025, 12:53 PM)
Nah here's the video defender. Kemaluan besar sangat lah China. Ask them go back to school study ten more years how to maneuver a ship first la
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Kesian. Now Dog Warriors need to beat their women to feel manly again.

https://www.reddit.com/r/video_china_irl/co...么有女朋友

https://www.reddit.com/r/video_china_irl/co...这种不报警

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Aug 11 2025, 12:53 PM)
Nah here's the video defender. Kemaluan besar sangat lah China. Ask them go back to school study ten more years how to maneuver a ship first la
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 11 2025, 01:02 PM)
Wow, you 2 geniuses didn't think that i looked through that Jay Tarriela's videos before I asked why it didn't show the collision, nor the said rescue of the CCP sailor??
Show la the damaged CCP boat ke, the CCP sailor begging for a life vest ke, the Filipinos feeding him hot chocolate after the rescue ke...... instead of 5sec videos showing fuck all...
That's how you put a Wumao in his place.

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 11 2025, 01:21 PM)
Wow, you 2 geniuses didn't think that i looked through that Jay Tarriela's videos before I asked why it didn't show the collision, nor the said rescue of the CCP sailor??
Show la the damaged CCP boat ke, the CCP sailor begging for a life vest ke, the Filipinos feeding him hot chocolate after the rescue ke...... instead of 5sec videos showing fuck all...
That's how you put a Wumao in his place.
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Kesian Dog Warrior, even The Star reported it.

Chinese vessels collide while pursuing Philippine boat in South China Sea: Manila
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 11 2025, 01:34 PM)
OMG The Star also reported on it already??!!
Fuck me sideways, that confirms it then!


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But seriously la, did you see the 4 videos posted by that Jay Tarriela or not? Your honest opinion, why didn't he show videos of the damaged CPC ship, or pics of the rescued Chinese sailor? You think he wanna give CPC the change to save face ar?

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 11 2025, 01:53 PM)
OMG The Star also reported on it already??!!
Fuck me sideways, that confirms it then!
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But seriously la, did you see the 4 videos posted by that Jay Tarriela or not? Your honest opinion, why didn't he show videos of the damaged CPC ship, or pics of the rescued Chinese sailor? You think he wanna give CPC the change to save face ar?
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The coast guard said it offered assistance with man-overboard recovery and medical aid for any injured Chinese crew members.

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Commodore Jay Tarriela told AFP the Chinese crew "never responded" to the Filipino ship's offer of assistance.

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sea so wide like that also can collide.. noob shit
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:41 AM)
topkek bodo
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Mat Jargon even more topkek bodo

should put Mat Jargon on the filipino ship then he knows how threatened our seas are when CCP ships start to bully our obsolete ships.

Wan Fayhsal questions priority for defence over health in 13MP

https://www.msn.com/en-my/politics/governme...id=BingNewsSerp

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QUOTE(thxxht @ Aug 11 2025, 02:00 PM)
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Mat Jargon even more topkek sohai

should put Mat Jargon on the filipino ship then he knows how threatened our seas are when CCP ships start to bully our obsolete ships.

Wan Fayhsal questions priority for defence over health in 13MP

https://www.msn.com/en-my/politics/governme...id=BingNewsSerp
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 11 2025, 01:34 PM)
Lol, is the star reading lowyat ?
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QUOTE(Blackops981 @ Aug 11 2025, 12:23 PM)
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Mat Jargon even more topkek bodo

should put Mat Jargon on the filipino ship then he knows how threatened our seas are when CCP ships start to bully our obsolete ships.

Wan Fayhsal questions priority for defence over health in 13MP

https://www.msn.com/en-my/politics/governme...id=BingNewsSerp
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Aug 11 2025, 02:16 PM)
Lol, is the star reading lowyat ?
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Bloomberg and Japan Times reading lowyat too.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...th-water-cannon

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/08/1...outh-china-sea/
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lol noob shit

the captains should just commit sudoku
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Aug 11 2025, 02:15 PM)
sea so wide like that also can collide.. noob shit
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This is equivalent to road rage but hit the divider instead. Padan muka
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 11 2025, 01:53 PM)
OMG The Star also reported on it already??!!
Fuck me sideways, that confirms it then!
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But seriously la, did you see the 4 videos posted by that Jay Tarriela or not? Your honest opinion, why didn't he show videos of the damaged CPC ship, or pics of the rescued Chinese sailor? You think he wanna give CPC the change to save face ar?
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Nah bunga chibai, want video is it?


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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Aug 11 2025, 02:43 PM)
Nah bunga chibai, want video is it?


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The last part, Phillipine coast guard offer medical help to China coast guard is funny. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Aug 11 2025, 02:43 PM)
Nah bunga chibai, want video is it?


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Wumaos says its AI generated la, where can trust MSM one.

Done plotek.

Lol!

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 11 2025, 02:49 PM)
The last part, Phillipine coast guard offer medical help to China coast guard is funny.  biggrin.gif
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That's the same 4 videos by Jay Tariella's twitter which was already posted in the 1st post ler, just that its now stitched together into a longer video. I already watched multiple times and still.....

"substantial damage to the CCG vessel's" 404

"rendering it unseaworthy" 404

Only clue of the collision was the crashing sound. I'm not even saying there was no collision, just that why can't Mr Jay just show the clip or picture of the Chinese ship's damage? Why suddenly cut off the video after the crashing sound?

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AMDK and Pinoys so happy now that they have proven that they can damage CCG and PLA Navy ship. Time to sound the battlehorn and go to war. kektop

Assuming the claims by Pinoys are true la laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 11 2025, 03:39 PM)
AMDK and Pinoys so happy now that they have proven that they can damage CCG and PLA Navy ship. Time to sound the battlehorn and go to war. kektop

Assuming the claims by Pinoys are true la  laugh.gif
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Xipeepee terpaling pissful. Own self langgar own boat then talk about war.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Aug 11 2025, 02:43 PM)
Nah bunga chibai, want video is it?


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The naval vessel wanted to prevent the coast guard to ram the pinoys or what?

Weird move, its like they dont even communicate kek


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 11 2025, 03:40 PM)
Xipeepee terpaling pissful. Own self langgar own boat then talk about war.
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Deswai I say China navy is not a threat.

- submarine sink in yangtze
- all missile filled with water
- aircraft carrier deck crack
- now PLA ships conlanfirmed sure crash into each other during war

No need sked Taiwan kena invaded liao. China navy is useless!
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 11 2025, 03:41 PM)
The naval vessel wanted to prevent the coast guard to ram the pinoys or what?

Weird move, its like they dont even communicate kek
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Deswai they suck at team sports.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 11 2025, 03:45 PM)
Deswai they suck at team sports.
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One speaking Guo Yi one speaking Canto?

or Coast guard fellas want to rouge and ram the pinoy but the naval fella say "Buuu!!!" not on my watch and sacrifice himself kek.

Shit the second sounds like a possible wolf warrior 3 plot line. The courageous captain that saved the pinoys from being sent to the ocean

But seriously CG and navy both operating close to another countries waters is abit topkek


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 11 2025, 03:45 PM)
Deswai they suck at team sports.
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Boat use Temu steering wheel and radio what to do
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 11 2025, 03:47 PM)
But seriously CG and navy both operating close to another countries waters is abit topkek
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no wonder US Marine ship see Chinese ship fast fast ship away... laugh.gif

Chinese captain shit at controlling this kind of movement, they langgar US ship, they can reach home easily and repair bill also cheaper.
US ship need to ship back around half of the globe for repairing plus the repairing bill will cost them big
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no video of the collision. i haz a dissapoint sad.gif
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Aug 11 2025, 03:57 PM)
no wonder US Marine ship see Chinese ship fast fast ship away... laugh.gif

Chinese captain shit at controlling this kind of movement, they langgar US ship, they can reach home easily and repair bill also cheaper.
US ship need to ship back around half of the globe for repairing plus the repairing bill will cost them big
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You mean Xipeepee using kamikaze tactics like Imperial Japan?
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:48 AM)
All you AMDK's don't find it funny that the Filipinos all had multiple cameras at the ready and filmed everything, posted so many videos, but none of them showing any collision nor the rescue?

This Jay Tarriela previously already got caught telling lies when CCP ships rescued his fishermen, but he tried to take credit instead. And then blamed the CPC ships for hindering him instead.


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Need to put out a show from time to time to please the master.

As MSM controlled by western power, they can sing song whatever they want.
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Aug 11 2025, 12:53 PM)
Nah here's the video defender. Kemaluan besar sangat lah China. Ask them go back to school study ten more years how to maneuver a ship first la
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Nah, pics come in de.
Mr Jay Terriella finally managed to copy it out from his Huawei Pura 80 100x zoom phone camera.

Like this la only confirmed that the crash actually happened..

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That's the same 4 videos by Jay Tariella's twitter which was already posted in the 1st post ler, just that its now stitched together into a longer video. I already watched multiple times and still.....

"substantial damage to the CCG vessel's" 404

"rendering it unseaworthy" 404

Only clue of the collision was the crashing sound. I'm not even saying there was no collision, just that why can't Mr Jay just show the clip or picture of the Chinese ship's damage? Why suddenly cut off the video after the crashing sound?
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You mean Xipeepee using kamikaze tactics like Imperial Japan?
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not sure they are bad at coordinate the ship movement or daring, becos they got cheaper repair cost and nearer to their port for repair.

or maybe if the US ship sunk, it will be gold mine for CCP to salvage it for spying purpose whistling.gif

Those CCP ship dare not go near carrier group but if similar size, they will start bully

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 11 2025, 04:12 PM)
Nah, pics come in de.
Mr Jay Terriella finally managed to copy it out from his Huawei Pura 80 100x zoom phone camera.

Like this la only confirmed that the crash actually happened..

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Wow that was fast..lol
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Nah, pics come in de.
Mr Jay Terriella finally managed to copy it out from his Huawei Pura 80 100x zoom phone camera.

Like this la only confirmed that the crash actually happened..

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You sure not AI generated? Commodore Jay Tarriela successfully baited Dog Warriors to bark for the whole day before releasing the pictures.

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 11 2025, 04:12 PM)
Nah, pics come in de.
Mr Jay Terriella finally managed to copy it out from his Huawei Pura 80 100x zoom phone camera.

Like this la only confirmed that the crash actually happened..

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Fuuuh PLA ships are built tough, no wonder their captains pilot them aggressively
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PLA is using a lot of propaganda to pump up its army's capability, when actually it sucks like hell, and many YT Falungong channels have been saying this for a long time now.

Take the case of Iran. They produced many slick videos of their army before they were taken out in basically just ONE day.


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Fuuuh PLA ships are built tough, no wonder their captains pilot them aggressively
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Still sank.

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Still sank.

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Usually hit by a 7500 ton behemoth, it will sink immediately but it did not.
Good quality ship!

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Usually hit by a 7500 ton behemoth, it will sink immediately but it did not.
Good quality ship!
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Fake la, admiral chin Peng china punya.

China navy got 5000 years of history very strong, water margin navy 666,

This is propaganda filipina, they make AI video la
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Used destroyer to ramming around & find out , they mass produced the Coast guard vessel for a reason but still used precious hull to bully others & paid for it.
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Still sank.

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Sank 404..... or this one also need to transfer out from phone SD Card?
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Sank 404..... or this one also need to transfer out from phone SD Card?
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lol just stating facts here the quality of PRC naval engineering now is far cry from those in the 90s
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This video can see the collision and the aftermath.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LOOK_CHINA/comment...能撞在一起


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 11 2025, 07:23 PM)
This video can see the collision and the aftermath.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LOOK_CHINA/comment...能撞在一起

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Man if you told me the naval ship was from the Philippines and took the hit to protect the cam ship I would legit believe based on that video

Some inter service rivalry where they both want to show off to the other who can bully pinoys betrer or really navy and coast guard don't use same frequency at alll?

That is really some weird shit

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Man if you told me the naval ship was from the Philippines and took the hit to protect the cam ship I would legit believe based on that video

Some inter service rivalry where they both want to show off to the other who can bully pinoys betrer or really navy and coast guard don't use same frequency at alll?

That is really some weird shit
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 11 2025, 07:23 PM)
This video can see the collision and the aftermath.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LOOK_CHINA/comment...能撞在一起

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Wah...being T-Boned / rammed directly......

Never imagine gonna see a real live-action of modern ship ramming aside from the game from Ubisoft AC Black Flag.

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Lol! Padan mukak. Very poor quality China made vessels shakehead.gif

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lol 😆 this is so funny... both rushing to bully the small boat ended damaging hundreds millions worth of ships.
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There are couple of sailors on the bow deck when the ramming happened , rumor there is casualties.
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There are couple of sailors on the bow deck when the ramming happened , rumor there is casualties.
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What a dumb way to die/get injured. Even pirates have more maruah than this.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Aug 11 2025, 11:40 AM)
Sunk by friendly fire and have to be rescued by Filipino Coast Guard bwahahahahaha sibeh mempersiasuikan kemaluan hahahahahaha
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They think their ship very strong like BYD?
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filipine small ship kite CCP both ship to collide each other...lol
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msia military helicopter and truck accidents during normal routine

bharat modern fighter jets getting shot down without knowing what happened

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Such an incompetent display from a supposed maritime power—two of their own ships colliding while chasing a smaller patrol boat. If they can’t handle basic seamanship, how could they possibly expect to challenge the US Navy? The sea remains China’s greatest strategic vulnerability.
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dont understand why the destroyer would cut between the pinoy and coast guard ship.... neither one will be able to stop in time
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This news is gaining momentum on mainland Chinese forums but still have not seen any reporting by Chinese mainstream media yet.
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This news is gaining momentum on mainland Chinese forums but still have not seen any reporting by Chinese mainstream media yet.
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Man if you told me the naval ship was from the Philippines and took the hit to protect the cam ship I would legit believe based on that video

Some inter service rivalry where they both want to show off to the other who can bully pinoys betrer or really navy and coast guard don't use same frequency at alll?

That is really some weird shit
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Another angle.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LOOK_CHINA/comment...清视频来了

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 12 2025, 01:02 PM)
You know that meme of the snake saving the drowning fish

I'm thinking it can be really plausible for this case kek

The navy ship really look liked it decided to cut off the coast guard. Their own coast guard

Why?

No one can bully pinoys except for navy?

Know your place you para military coast guard ship?

Or got wolf warrior plot where the navy captain trying to stop a war?
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 12 2025, 01:04 PM)
You know that meme of the snake saving the drowning fish

I'm thinking it can be really plausible for this case kek

The navy ship really look liked it decided to cut off the coast guard. Their own coast guard

Why?

No one can bully pinoys except for navy?

Know your place you para military coast guard ship?

Or got wolf warrior plot where the navy captain trying to stop a war?
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One would think Da Ge would come up with an official statement by now... But their state controlled media don't even want to report about it.

If they follow that plot line, they will have to admit their coast guard purposely bullying Philippines coast guard kek.

If they don't follow that plot line, then they have to admit their sailors so sohai until langgar each other. And they still have to admit they're purposely bullying the Philippines coast guard kek.

And there were 2 or 3 people on the bow of the ship. 1 fella was standing right at the edge like Titanic. Did they die? How they going to spin this? Kesian Dog Warriors.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 12 2025, 01:11 PM)
One would think Da Ge would come up with an official statement by now... But their state controlled media don't even want to report about it.

If they follow that plot line, they will have to admit their coast guard purposely bullying Philippines coast guard kek.

If they don't follow that plot line, then they have to admit their sailors so sohai until langgar each other. And they still have to admit they're purposely bullying the Philippines coast guard kek.

And there were 2 or 3 people on the bow of the ship. 1 fella was standing right at the edge like Titanic. Did they die? How they going to spin this? Kesian Dog Warriors.
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Many rumors and doubts about who really runs the CCP now. There is a persistent rumor that XJP is no longer in charge but usurped by his general. If this general is a war hawk, then expect things to get heated up soon.......
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Aug 12 2025, 09:01 AM)
dont understand why the destroyer would cut between the pinoy and coast guard ship.... neither one will be able to stop in time
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either the destroyer is trying to hit the Pinoy or the Pinoy is very good in leading both ships to get hit.
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Aug 12 2025, 09:01 AM)
dont understand why the destroyer would cut between the pinoy and coast guard ship.... neither one will be able to stop in time
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Aug 12 2025, 01:28 PM)
either the destroyer is trying to hit the Pinoy or the Pinoy is very good in leading both ships to get hit.
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If you watch the whole video, seems like they trying to do pincer movement but the Japanese made Filipino ship is much quicker and nimble. The navy destroyer try to accelerate and ram or aksi aksi ram but try to emergency brake and lost control of direction. Pinoy actually damn experienced because of fighting with Sulu.
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ccp got big gun on ship. next time just shoot lah. main kejar kejar for whut.
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this is true BOSS selfie video laugh.gif
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ccp got big gun on ship. next time just shoot lah. main kejar kejar for whut.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 12 2025, 01:11 PM)
One would think Da Ge would come up with an official statement by now... But their state controlled media don't even want to report about it.

If they follow that plot line, they will have to admit their coast guard purposely bullying Philippines coast guard kek.

If they don't follow that plot line, then they have to admit their sailors so sohai until langgar each other. And they still have to admit they're purposely bullying the Philippines coast guard kek.

And there were 2 or 3 people on the bow of the ship. 1 fella was standing right at the edge like Titanic. Did they die? How they going to spin this? Kesian Dog Warriors.
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Da Ge bring back and cover with blue tarp like their friend

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Da Ge bring back and cover with blue tarp like their friend

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Pakistan cytro army sudah plotek.

https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/china-...st-guard.25862/

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 11 2025, 03:39 PM)
AMDK and Pinoys so happy now that they have proven that they can damage CCG and PLA Navy ship. Time to sound the battlehorn and go to war. kektop

Assuming the claims by Pinoys are true la  laugh.gif
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Xipeepee terpaling pissful. Own self langgar own boat then talk about war.
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https://youtu.be/2fDw8kpOeY4&t=345

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I think the video is pretty conclusive that chinese military like to use dangerous maneuver. Plane , ship etc.

Last time usa also say the same thing on the plane encounter.

Luckily now bang one self. Dai sei.
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Yes, ayam suppork. China has been too lenient towards Pinoys. Should escalate to ensure no more provocations thumbsup.gif Filipinos thought China not serious so can play kejar kejar, it's time for them to learn what the term "FAFO" means.

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 12 2025, 05:25 PM)
Yes, ayam suppork. China has been too lenient towards Pinoys. Should escalate to ensure no more provocations  thumbsup.gif Filipinos thought China not serious so can play kejar kejar, it's time for them to learn what the term "FAFO" means.
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So prissfull jz rike kariban.

That spot was 150 nautical miles from the Philippines but more than 400 nautical miles from China. Like that also Xipeepee want to claim. Fark off la.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 12 2025, 05:28 PM)
So prissfull jz rike kariban.

That spot was 150 nautical miles from the Philippines but more than 400 nautical miles from China. Like that also Xipeepee want to claim. Fark off la.
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Peaceful solution don't want. Time to wield the stick icon_idea.gif
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Peaceful solution don't want. Time to wield the stick  icon_idea.gif
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Xipeepee's "peaceful solution" is to claim everything as theirs.

Why don't you just say you want China to claim Malaysia? Say it.
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Xipeepee's "peaceful solution" is to claim everything as theirs.

Why don't you just say you want China to claim Malaysia? Say it.
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Did China say they wanna claim Malaysia?

Why want me to say it? shakehead.gif Watch too much detective drama budak ni, like wanna force suspect to confess topkek
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 12 2025, 05:28 PM)
Peaceful solution don't want. Time to wield the stick  icon_idea.gif
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Too bad the Chinese all talk but no balls. Pelosi still alive. Poor fishes.
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So prissfull jz rike kariban.

That spot was 150 nautical miles from the Philippines but more than 400 nautical miles from China. Like that also Xipeepee want to claim. Fark off la.
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Lol. Still trying to reason? Give up la. China can do no wrong. Even claim part of malaysia also nm.
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Lol. Still trying to reason? Give up la. China can do no wrong. Even claim part of malaysia also nm.
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Langgar own boat = "Professional, measured, proper and legal."

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They still don't want to report the condition of the people who were standing on the bow.
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Langgar own boat = "Professional, measured, proper and legal."

:lol2:

They still don't want to report the condition of the people who were standing on the bow.
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Well India also keep quiet when lost to Pakistan. Don't want to admit how many plane or pilot lost


Now same same la. China = India.

I don't see any difference.
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Yes, ayam suppork. China has been too lenient towards Pinoys. Should escalate to ensure no more provocations  :thumbsup: Filipinos thought China not serious so can play kejar kejar, it's time for them to learn what the term "FAFO" means.
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The prob is if china touch pinoy, pinoy can always use ASEAN for support or they can choose to leave ASEAN altogether if ASEAN not standing up with pinoy. That will be disaster for ASEAN. Vietnam also might follow. Why do u think china scared till now not to provoke ?

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Well India also keep quiet when lost to Pakistan. Don't want to admit how many plane or pilot lost
Now same same la. China = India.

I don't see any difference.
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The prob is if china touch pinoy, pinoy can always use ASEAN for support or they can choose to leave ASEAN altogether if ASEAN not standing up with pinoy. That will be disaster for ASEAN. Vietnam also might follow. Why do u think china scared till now not to provoke ?
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China scared because China scared, no ball. Their army also same, no ball wan. Ask them join UN peacekeeping forces, got trouble they run away.
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UN peacekeepers refused to help as aid workers were raped in South Sudan – report

Chinese troops abandoned their posts rather than engage in fighting and protect civilians, says US-based rights group


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/...-workers-report
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China scared because China scared, no ball. Their army also same, no ball wan. Ask them join UN peacekeeping forces, got trouble they run away.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/...-workers-report
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This one being debunked, in youtube.
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China scared because China scared, no ball. Their army also same, no ball wan. Ask them join UN peacekeeping forces, got trouble they run away.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/...-workers-report
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Did China say they wanna claim Malaysia?

Why want me to say it?  shakehead.gif Watch too much detective drama budak ni, like wanna force suspect to confess topkek
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China scared because China scared, no ball. Their army also same, no ball wan. Ask them join UN peacekeeping forces, got trouble they run away.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/...-workers-report
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9m2w Topkek you see Wolf Warriors.
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9m2w Topkek you see Wolf Warriors.
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Did China say they wanna claim Malaysia?

Why want me to say it?  shakehead.gif Watch too much detective drama budak ni, like wanna force suspect to confess topkek
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ok, do you support china's claim of 曾母暗沙 as their southernmost point?
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Wolf Warrior IV. Return to [insert african country] and teach them to respect the passport. And return the ammo they probably stole
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This one being debunked, in youtube.
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Wow, the most sacred and most esteemed knowledge university, YouTube. LMFAO.

Nah, spoon-feed you, direct from the report submitted to UN Security Council. But of course, you will deny and plotek and twist and say "debunked".


https://docs.un.org/en/S/2016/924

UN Report of the incident, attached with Ban Ki Moon's letter

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This included at least two instances in which the Chinese battalion abandoned some of its defensive positions at protection of civilian site 1 on 10 and 11 July. The performance of the Nepalese formed police unit in stopping looting by some internally displaced persons inside UN House and controlling the crowd was inadequate. 

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Wow, the most sacred and most esteemed knowledge university, YouTube. LMFAO.

Nah, spoon-feed you, direct from the report submitted to UN Security Council. But of course, you will deny and plotek and twist and say "debunked".
https://docs.un.org/en/S/2016/924

UN Report of the incident, attached with Ban Ki Moon's letter
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ok, do you support china's claim of 曾母暗沙 as their southernmost point?
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Loaded question with implicit assumption that we only have two choices. Either to:
a) deny China’s claim and confront them by force (ie. Pinoys choice)
b) to support China's claim and cede territory to them meekly

I suppose people like you don't see a third option, because life is not always black and white.

If you don't know what is the third option, it is to negotiate with China and come to a compromise/agreement. I have not seen any evidence that say China is unwilling to come to a compromise with regards to the SCS issue. Whether you like it or not, the strong eats the weak in this world. Sure the weak may band together to kick the strong, but there will be casualties. Do we want to be the casualties? I can tell you with 100% certainty the Americans will never be the casualty of this confrontation.

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Loaded question with implicit assumption that we only have two choices. Either to:
a) deny China’s claim and confront them by force (ie. Pinoys choice)
b) to support China's claim and cede territory to them meekly

I suppose people like you don't see a third option, because life is not always black and white.

If you don't know what is the third option, it is to negotiate with China and come to a compromise/agreement. I have not seen any evidence that say China is unwilling to come to a compromise with regards to the SCS issue. Whether you like it or not, the strong eats the weak in this world. Sure the weak may band together to kick the strong, but there will be casualties. Do we want to be the casualties? I can tell you with 100% certainty the Americans will never be the casualty of this confrontation.
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it's a simple yes / no question. what i'm asking is your personal opinion. your answer won't change malaysia or china's claim to the shoal.

if you can't answer somple question like that, than shaddap lah. all i'm interested to know is whether you are loyal to the country or a traitor.
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Aug 13 2025, 01:09 AM)
it's a simple yes / no question. what i'm asking is your personal opinion. your answer won't change malaysia or china's claim to the shoal.

if you can't answer somple question like that, than shaddap lah. all i'm interested to know is whether you are loyal to the country or a traitor.
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Then no question at all, I am loyal to the country because I don't want to see it fall into needless conflict over some rocks if it can be settled peacefully.

In contrast, you are a traitor if you want confrontation when a peaceful solution exist. For example, do you think President Marcos Jr is a patriot for confronting China? Keep in mind he said he will come to the defense of TW if China invaded it. Is that in the interest of Philippines? Going to war over foreign land.

Enough with the romanticised Hollywood style bravado. Be realistic please.
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So prissfull jz rike kariban.

That spot was 150 nautical miles from the Philippines but more than 400 nautical miles from China. Like that also Xipeepee want to claim. Fark off la.
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 13 2025, 06:51 AM)
Then no question at all, I am loyal to the country because I don't want to see it fall into needless conflict over some rocks if it can be settled peacefully.

In contrast, you are a traitor if you want confrontation when a peaceful solution exist. For example, do you think President Marcos Jr is a patriot for confronting China? Keep in mind he said he will come to the defense of TW if China invaded it. Is that in the interest of Philippines? Going to war over foreign land.

Enough with the romanticised Hollywood style bravado. Be realistic please.
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let me remind you of this - negaraku. tanah tumpahnya darahku.

our borders are not up for negotiations. period. those who are willing to give up our borders are traitors. plus, this is about more than rocks. the claimed area is also where get most of our oil. did you forget about that part?

same goes for philippines for defending their own claimed borders. their national borders are not for negotiations. i believe they have competing claims and clashes with us as well. as for taiwan, they know, if taiwan falls, the chain breaks. there will be no way to contain china after that. it's a national security issue for south korea, japan, taiwan, philippines. they are bound together, whether they like it or not.

i understand peaceful settlements are preferred. in negotiations, there are red lines for each party. our claimed borders are our red lines. if the other party crosses that line, then there's nothing more to discuss. it's ICJ or war. we will always pick ICJ. china won'r dare to meet us there. they know their claim has no merit.
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Aug 13 2025, 09:27 AM)
let me remind you of this - negaraku. tanah tumpahnya darahku.

our borders are not up for negotiations. period. those who are willing to give up our borders are traitors. plus, this is about more than rocks. the claimed area is also where get most of our oil. did you forget about that part?

same goes for philippines for defending their own claimed borders. their national borders are not for negotiations. i believe they have competing claims and clashes with us as well. as for taiwan, they know, if taiwan falls, the chain breaks. there will be no way to contain china after that. it's a national security issue for south korea, japan, taiwan, philippines. they are bound together, whether they like it or not.

i understand peaceful settlements are preferred. in negotiations, there are red lines for each party. our claimed borders are our red lines. if the other party crosses that line, then there's nothing more to discuss. it's ICJ or war. we will always pick ICJ. china won'r dare to meet us there. they know their claim has no merit.
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Luckily for us, the Pinoys are there to serve as a case study of where such a dogmatic blind and uncompromising patriotism will lead a nation. Let's see what will happen to them in the coming years. And all we have to do is contrast their fate against ours since we seem to be taking a more pragmatic approach which I am grateful. But I doubt you will learn from other people's example. As if Ukraine isn't already enough of a lesson for everyone.
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 13 2025, 06:51 AM)
Then no question at all, I am loyal to the country because I don't want to see it fall into needless conflict over some rocks if it can be settled peacefully.

In contrast, you are a traitor if you want confrontation when a peaceful solution exist. For example, do you think President Marcos Jr is a patriot for confronting China? Keep in mind he said he will come to the defense of TW if China invaded it. Is that in the interest of Philippines? Going to war over foreign land.

Enough with the romanticised Hollywood style bravado. Be realistic please.
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Nowadays people are confuse about loyalty.

You say you are loyal to this country yet you support china's illegal 9 dash line.
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Nowadays people are confuse about loyalty.

You say you are loyal to this country yet you support china's illegal 9 dash line.
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That's because you are seeing the issue from an either "fight or surrender" mentality. Is there really no other way to solve the issue other than confronting the Chinese Filipino style?
Is calling for a peaceful compromise considered traitorous while calling for a military solution a patriotic act? People nowadays really hunger for war lol.

By the way, you are in the military preparing for war, are you? Surely you are not a hypocrite calling for confrontation against China while just being a keyboard warrior. Surely you are not silently hoping for our troops to sacrifice themselves just so that you can thump your chest giving moral patriotic support while singing Negaraku remaining safe elsewhere, right?

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That's because you are seeing the issue from an either "fight or surrender" mentality. Is there really no other way to solve the issue other than confronting the Chinese Filipino style?
Is calling for a peaceful compromise considered traitorous while calling for a military solution a patriotic act? People nowadays really hunger for war lol.

By the way, you are in the military preparing for war, are you? Surely you are not a hypocrite calling for confrontation against China while just being a keyboard warrior. Surely you are not silently hoping for our troops to sacrifice themselves while you remain safe elsewhere, right?
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You are not answering my basic question.

If an foreign state comes and claim portion of land belongs to you, do you just hand over your soverign state inexhange for peace because you are scared ? And if they again do repeatedly, do you still continue to give ?

You ever understand the rukun negara ? Where does your loyalty lies ? How can you be a lalang on this subject ?

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You are not answering my basic question.

If an foreign state comes and claim portion of land belongs to you, do you just hand over your soverign state inexhange for peace because you are scared ? And if they again do repeatedly, do you still continue to give ?

You ever understand the rukun negara ? Where does your loyalty lies ? How can you be a lalang on this subject ?
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You don't answer my question, why should I answer yours?
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You don't answer my question, why should I answer yours?
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Because i ask you a question first and you skip it.

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Because i ask you a question first and you skip it.

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No you didn't. You made a statement. No question.

QUOTE(RT8081 @ Aug 13 2025, 10:12 AM)
Nowadays people are confuse about loyalty.

You say you are loyal to this country yet you support china's illegal 9 dash line.
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No you didn't. You made a statement. No question.
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You said you are loyal but deemed supporting CCP's action. How can you say you are loyal then ?
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No you didn't. You made a statement. No question.
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Play victim and report my post yet dont have the decency to state your position on this matter.


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Play victim and report my post yet dont have the decency to state your position on this matter.
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Any normal person would have interpreted my position as looking out for what's best for my country. I find it laughable it can be interpreted as support for China. Snap out of that blind righteousness attitude.

Again, your kind of dogma is best served in the military. The army needs more of those who think only by conflict can they prove their loyalty. Everyone else who wants peace are cowards, including keyboard warriors, which I hope you are not rolleyes.gif

Oh by the way, I didn't report you. Go ask the mods. If I reported your post, may any mods who see this, you may ban me for lying.

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Luckily for us, the Pinoys are there to serve as a case study of where such a dogmatic blind and uncompromising patriotism will lead a nation. Let's see what will happen to them in the coming years. And all we have to do is contrast their fate against ours since we seem to be taking a more pragmatic approach which I am grateful. But I doubt you will learn from other people's example. As if Ukraine isn't already enough of a lesson for everyone.
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if defending borders is wrong, then nations will cease to exist. you need a border to have a nation.

there's 2 countries that are good case studies, vietnam and pinoy. vietnam will fight back, so china barely messes with them. pinoy is weak, so china buiiles them. we can choose the vietnam route or the pinoy route.
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Just like raising flag issue in this country.
'People' want 'us' to raise the flag to show the love to the country. I never raise flag for my business premise (instead i pay my taxes innocent.gif ).
Meanwhile, some people in the country upgrade from minum teh tarik to kopi-o.

People always get their priority wrong. And politikus need to put up a show to entertain the ignorant citizen. whistling.gif

QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 13 2025, 10:43 AM)
Any normal person would have interpreted my position as looking out for what's best for my country. I find it laughable it can be interpreted as support for China. Snap out of that blind righteousness attitude.

Again, your kind of dogma is best served in the military. The army needs more of those who think only by conflict can they prove their loyalty. Everyone else who wants peace are cowards, including keyboard warriors, which I hope you are not  rolleyes.gif

Oh by the way, I didn't report you. Go ask the mods. If I reported your post, may any mods who see this, you may ban me for lying.
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Inb4, EEZ is not border/territory water.

By making the above 'correct' statement, i will be labelled as traitor. whistling.gif

QUOTE(spursfan @ Aug 13 2025, 10:44 AM)
if defending borders is wrong, then nations will cease to exist. you need a border to have a nation.

there's 2 countries that are good case studies, vietnam and pinoy. vietnam will fight back, so china barely messes with them. pinoy is weak, so china buiiles them. we can choose the vietnam route or the pinoy route.
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clearly he is those who support foreign state agenda and a clear cut example of those who would sell out the country if it comes to wartime for the sake of "peace"

a true pengkhianatto our country.

not to mention if we leave a superpower to cut up our country, what happen to round 2 and round 3 and so on until our country become super small size and lack of any strategic value or resources for the so called sake of "peace". later he probably say good to become a vassal state as well.

China should have just surrender those 20% to the imperial japan for so called "peace" instead of 14,000,000 dead chinese and so rape of nanking may or may not still happen.


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QUOTE(70U63 @ Aug 13 2025, 10:59 AM)
Inb4, EEZ is not border/territory water.

By making the above 'correct' statement, i will be labelled as traitor.  whistling.gif
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Do u understand what this mean ?
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it is a FACT that China claim our EEZ as their TERRITORIAL WATER which effectively would remove our rights of our strategic value and asset up to Sarawak coast.

You have bee pro CCP wut...
selling out our country for pro propaganda wouldn't not have been an issue for you...

#PDRM 😂


QUOTE(70U63 @ Aug 13 2025, 10:59 AM)
Inb4, EEZ is not border/territory water.

By making the above 'correct' statement, i will be labelled as traitor.  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 13 2025, 10:43 AM)
Any normal person would have interpreted my position as looking out for what's best for my country. I find it laughable it can be interpreted as support for China. Snap out of that blind righteousness attitude.

Again, your kind of dogma is best served in the military. The army needs more of those who think only by conflict can they prove their loyalty. Everyone else who wants peace are cowards, including keyboard warriors, which I hope you are not  rolleyes.gif

Oh by the way, I didn't report you. Go ask the mods. If I reported your post, may any mods who see this, you may ban me for lying.
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So you are saying that giving away your country's sovereign right is better option to ensure whats the best for the country ? So lemme understand this correctly. You are willing to give your nation to ensure you are safe and not affected by war ?
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Ya "stolen" lol.gif
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Stolen la this type of banana republic

You leave car by the side of the road tires stolen liao

You leave ammo stolen liao

Next batch of insurgents sponsored by Sino ammunition liao
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Aug 13 2025, 11:10 AM)
So you are saying that giving away your country's sovereign right is better option to ensure whats the best for the country ? So lemme understand this correctly. You are willing to give your nation to ensure you are safe and not affected by war ?
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Nope, I didn't say that.

You are still in that it's either war or surrender territory mentality. You are thinking only by war, a country's sovereignty can be protected. That's why you are asking these nonsense loaded questions which no one sane would actually say yes.

What are you thinking? I would reply yes to those ridiculous questions? laugh.gif Get serious will you?
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Inb4, EEZ is not border/territory water.

By making the above 'correct' statement, i will be labelled as traitor.  whistling.gif
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what eez? we claim according to continental shelf rule.

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what eez? we claim according to continental shelf rule.
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Continental shelf only relates to seabed resources, and doesn't include the water column.
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holy hell that is just slightly left of luzon, china so far come kacau
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Continental shelf only relates to seabed resources, and doesn't include the water column.
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so you mean the oil belongs to us, china is only claiming the fish? laugh.gif

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so you mean the oil belongs to us, china is only claiming the fish? laugh.gif
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Nowadays people are confuse about loyalty.

You say you are loyal to this country yet you support china's illegal 9 dash line.
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A lot people confuse about loyalty

Some leader openly support hamas and called it freedom fighter. i despised hamas which obviously terrorist who harm unarmed civilians.

I support two state solution while some keep shouting from sea to river slogan

Loyalty does not mean blind follower of leader statement

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 13 2025, 11:17 AM)
Nope, I didn't say that.

You are still in that it's either war or surrender territory mentality. You are thinking only by war, a country's sovereignty can be protected. That's why you are asking these nonsense loaded questions which no one sane would actually say yes.

What are you thinking? I would reply yes to those ridiculous questions? laugh.gif Get serious will you?
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Do u even understand the meaning of sovereignty? Or you are twisting the meaning of sovereignty to fit your narrative?

Care to elaborate to you, what do "peaceful negotiations" and"diplomacy" entail? Are u insinuating that making concessions and compromises in exchange for border security is the definition of "peaceful negotiations"? Peace through appeasement?

Does your definition of sovereignty of a country only cover its border and does not include autonomy in other matters? For instance, a sovereign country can't decide its own direction in aspects such as Economy, immigration and foreign relations?

So your "unnecessary conflict" is only at face value, meaning a weaker country gets to keep its border in name only, it also did not lose nor win in physical conflict, but in reality experience losses in other aspects, for instance, as a result of "peaceful negotiation", a weaker country relaxing immigration from a stronger country that would in turn affect the job prospect of the locals, is that your definition of victory? "No loss at paper/official capacity, but lose in reality"?

If yes, does that mean you subscribe to might makes right mentality? Weaker party has to kowtow to stronger party?

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Do u even understand the meaning of sovereignty?
Yes.

Or you are twisting the meaning of sovereignty to fit your narrative?
Nope.

Care to elaborate to you, what do "peaceful negotiations" and"diplomacy" entail?
Engage with opposing party in negotiations to settle the matter peacefully, no matter how long it takes.

Are u insinuating that making concessions and compromises in exchange for border security is the definition of "peaceful negotiations"?
Yes, and it's preferable to war.

Peace through appeasement?
It's called diplomacy. Or would you prefer a leader who settles all border disputes through war?

Does your definition of sovereignty of a country only cover its border and does not include autonomy in other matters? \
No. It include A LOT of other matters.

For instance, a sovereign country can't decide its own direction in aspects such as Economy, immigration and foreign relations?
I have never said that. In fact, my opinion is the opposite. Please refer to my latest tered about sohai Pinoy president.

So your "unnecessary conflict" is only at face value, meaning a weaker country gets to keep its border in name only, it also did not lose nor win in physical conflict, but in reality experience losses in other aspects, for instance, as a result of "peaceful negotiation", a weaker country relaxing immigration from a stronger country that would in turn affect the job prospect of the locals, is that your definition of victory? "No loss at paper/official capacity, but lose in reality"?
Depends on what the negotiations entail. I am not the one negotiating. If I don't like the terms, then we should continue negotiating provided the other party also wants to. If they want to stop and resort to war to settle the issue, then we would have no choice, would we? All I am say is "EXHAUST ALL PEACEFUL MEANS OF SETTLEMENT BEFORE CONFRONTATION".

If yes, does that mean you subscribe to might makes right mentality? Weaker party has to kowtow to stronger party?
Sad as that might be, this is the nature of our world. Israel-Gaza conflict is best example. Please show me an instance where might doesn't make right in this world.
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People do like to ask me a lot of stupid questions  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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Hey, I'm asking you genuine questions to offer u a chance to uphold your reputation, and you call my questions stupid? Tells a lot about your character, that explains why many here look down on you.

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Sad as that might be, this is the nature of our world. Israel-Gaza conflict is best example. Please show me an instance where might doesn't make right in this world

U should have said this from the get go, save everyone's time, don't pretend. Previously, you talked as if you are neutral and does not have a stance.

Tq for showing ur true color.
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QUOTE(imalmighty @ Aug 14 2025, 03:30 PM)
U should have said this from the get go, save everyone's time, don't pretend. Previously, you talked as if you are neutral and does not have a stance.

Tq for showing ur true color.
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Isn't it true? You couldn't provide an example where might doesn't make right in the real world. Please don't give me hollywood movie examples. Real world doesn't work that way.

Then tell me how do you think the world works then? if might doesn't make right. I have an idea of what you might say, if it matches to what I am thinking then it's gonna be funny.

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 14 2025, 04:02 PM)
Isn't it true? You couldn't provide an example where might doesn't make right in the real world. Please don't give me hollywood movie examples. Real world doesn't work that way.

Then tell me how do you think the world works then? if might doesn't make right. I have an idea of what you might say, if it matches to what I am thinking then it's gonna be funny.

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I never said anything regarding how the world works, either might or right, I am not obligated to answer your question, do not expect any evidence. I just want to confirm if you subscribe to "might makes right mentality", that's all, you yourself chose to answer me voluntarily, I did not force you also.

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Incorrect....
We (MY gov) don't label Hamas as terrorist.
Just like majority of developed western nations don't see what Israel is doing as genocide

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At the end, who hold the power win because some of those most powerful party don't want to play by the rule anymore. This also applicable to many parties involved in multiple conflicts around the globe, including Russia, Ukraine, US and Israel. whistling.gif But some party still have the face (with the help of MSM and ignorant people) to claim moral high ground.

QUOTE(abelyap @ Aug 14 2025, 06:49 AM)
A lot people confuse about loyalty

Some leader openly support hamas and called it freedom fighter. i despised hamas which obviously terrorist who harm unarmed civilians.

I support two state solution while some keep shouting from sea to river slogan

Loyalty does not mean blind follower of leader statement

Singapore won due to pragmatism
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Incorrect....
We (MY gov) don't label Hamas as terrorist. 
Just like majority of developed western nations don't see what Israel is doing as genocide

whistling.gif

At the end, who hold the power win because some of those most powerful party don't want to play by the rule anymore. This also applicable to many parties involved in multiple conflicts around the globe, including Russia, Ukraine, US and Israel.  whistling.gif  But some party still have the face (with the help of MSM and ignorant people) to claim moral high ground.
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U must be real confused as ur statement did not disagreed with what i said
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U said hamas is terrorist but MY gov don't agree with your statement.... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(abelyap @ Aug 14 2025, 05:13 PM)
U must be real confused as ur statement did not disagreed with what i said
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U said hamas is terrorist but MY gov don't agree with your statement....  rclxms.gif
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That y i said u r real confused
The earlier statement i made to highlight the confusion on loyalty

Loyalty does not mean blind following stance make by government or leader but make use of God given brain for critical thinking.

So in this case government say hamas is freedom fighter but what is definition of terrorist?
Harming unarmed civilians.
So it is clear cut hamas is terrorist regardless what government stance it. Nothing about disloyal when truth is as it is

So r u clear up ur mind now?

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Incorrect.
U might not agree with the gov.
But gov represent the people and the country especially when we deal with international/geopolitical issue.

Which mean hamas is not terrorist, but resistance group.

QUOTE(abelyap @ Aug 14 2025, 05:32 PM)
That y i said u r real confused
The earlier statement i made to highlight the confusion on loyalty

Loyalty does not mean blind following stance make by government or leader but make use of God given brain for critical thinking.

So in this case government say hamas is freedom fighter but what is definition of terrorist?
Harming unarmed civilians.
So it is clear cut hamas is terrorist regardless what government stance it. Nothing about disloyal when truth is as it is

So r u clear up ur mind now?
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 14 2025, 02:25 PM)
Are u insinuating that making concessions and compromises in exchange for border security is the definition of "peaceful negotiations"?
Yes, and it's preferable to war.

Peace through appeasement?
It's called diplomacy. Or would you prefer a leader who settles all border disputes through war?

Does your definition of sovereignty of a country only cover its border and does not include autonomy in other matters? \
No. It include A LOT of other matters.
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See that, on one hand he supports that sovereignty also covers autonomy in other matters, not just borders, now when he comes to other matters such as during negotiating phase, he supports making concessions and compromises, having leaders of weaker countries sign lopsided deals under duress according to him, is autonomy in other matters. Yes, he means being forced to make concessions is considered autonomy and in turn sovereignty!

Or perhaps his definition of "autonomy in other matters" do not cover autonomy to not make concessions and compromises during peaceful negotiations😅

He's so naive that he thinks bending over backwards to avoid physical dispute is the only and end all be all path towards victory. He is also naive to assume that the stronger party will always prefer not to escalate tension to armed conflict provided the weaker party makes enough concessions, naive to assume stronger country can always be satisfied.

Btw, call a spade a spade la, referring to making concessions as diplomacy is just sugarcoating appeasement.


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Ccp really kena trolled hard by pinyo

David vs golaith

Hope ccp lose to pinyo like

Usa vs vietkong

Usa vs taliban


Pinyo if they keep the pressure ccp gona make more stupid mistakes and shoot their own people

Support the underdog against imperials


QUOTE(70U63 @ Aug 14 2025, 05:11 PM)
Incorrect....
We (MY gov) don't label Hamas as terrorist. 
Just like majority of developed western nations don't see what Israel is doing as genocide

whistling.gif

At the end, who hold the power win because some of those most powerful party don't want to play by the rule anymore. This also applicable to many parties involved in multiple conflicts around the globe, including Russia, Ukraine, US and Israel.  whistling.gif  But some party still have the face (with the help of MSM and ignorant people) to claim moral high ground.
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 13 2025, 06:51 AM)
Then no question at all, I am loyal to the country because I don't want to see it fall into needless conflict over some rocks if it can be settled peacefully.

In contrast, you are a traitor if you want confrontation when a peaceful solution exist. For example, do you think President Marcos Jr is a patriot for confronting China? Keep in mind he said he will come to the defense of TW if China invaded it. Is that in the interest of Philippines? Going to war over foreign land.

Enough with the romanticised Hollywood style bravado. Be realistic please.
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If vietkong and taliban have same mentality as you

Usa would still be in vietnam and Afghanistan today
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Aug 14 2025, 08:00 PM)
user posted image

Ccp really kena trolled hard by pinyo

David vs golaith

Hope ccp lose to pinyo like

Usa vs vietkong

Usa vs taliban
Pinyo if they keep the pressure ccp gona make more stupid mistakes and shoot their own people

Support the underdog against imperials
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thanks for the pic/diagram.

the coast guard ship must be damaged quite badly rite?
what about the bigger navy ship?
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thanks for the pic/diagram.

the coast guard ship must be damaged quite badly rite?
what about the bigger navy ship?
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Incorrect.
U might not agree with the gov.
But gov represent the people and the country especially when we deal with international/geopolitical issue.

Which mean hamas is not terrorist, but resistance group.
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Either u r damn confused beyond redemption or clueless about history on bad government as such u r blindly following leader stance against the clear cut truth
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don't forget, with the same mentality, 20% of China would belong to Japan now.
there be no France, Italy, Poland, etc etc and probably missing part of russia too.

these people propaganda to do subtly instill that a country should give up its rights without actually defending it is grey ops 😆

won't be surprised they are spies or just traitorous in nature.

QUOTE(Raddus @ Aug 14 2025, 08:09 PM)
If vietkong and taliban have same mentality as you

Usa would still be in vietnam and Afghanistan today
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Aug 15 2025, 12:12 PM)
don't forget, with the same mentality, 20% of China would belong to Japan now.
there be no France, Italy, Poland, etc etc and probably missing part of russia too.

these people propaganda to do subtly instill that a country should give up its rights without actually defending it is grey ops 😆

won't be surprised they are spies or just traitorous in nature.
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Exposed him already, he subscribe to might makes right mentality. So according to his worldview, Godfather style of geopolitics is the right way. Stronger party is free to make whatever demand ala make weaker country an offer they cannot refuse style, weaker country must capitulate.

His skewed definition of sovereignty means bully comes before autonomy😅

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USA can still be in Iraq, Afghan and Vietnam by Proxy. Doesn't matter Afghan and Vietnam think they won the war, in fact US pulled out because they don't want to deal with it anymore.

USA is still in Iraq although Iraq gov asked them to leave. rclxms.gif They are now still keep 'stealing' Syrian oil. whistling.gif

The world is changing. USA being the world police (especially since the end of cold war) want to change the system them built since WW2. No one can stop them.

Many still can't accept that USA leaded NATO expanded eastward is the cause of what happening in Ukraine today. And many still don't know what is Orange & Maidan Revolution. Yes, people will argue that if Russia disintegrated, Ukraine war wouldn't happen innocent.gif

Inb4, way too many ignorant people still thinking they are fighting for freedom and democracy. rclxms.gif
If i am US citizen and working in MIC, i will be very happy brows.gif

QUOTE(Raddus @ Aug 14 2025, 08:09 PM)
If vietkong and taliban have same mentality as you

Usa would still be in vietnam and Afghanistan today
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Aug 15 2025, 12:12 PM)
don't forget, with the same mentality, 20% of China would belong to Japan now.
there be no France, Italy, Poland, etc etc and probably missing part of russia too.

these people propaganda to do subtly instill that a country should give up its rights without actually defending it is grey ops 😆

won't be surprised they are spies or just traitorous in nature.
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Actually no lo, that fella has no spine his "might makes right" mentality is conditional, it only matters when the might is China, if it's US or any Western allies or Israel at the might position, he would flip flop to suppork their opposition.

Look at how many times that fella whine about Gaza and Palestine instead of telling them straight up to kowtow to Israel like he did to other countries on the opposite side of China. Look at his post history.
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biasalar... propagandist and foreign agents in our country, of course they have to follow their paymaster and loyalty.

by the way, my post earlier got reported. must have hit their sore spot of being pengkhianat.
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