SUNGAI BULOH, July 4 — The Health Ministry said it is aware of the high patient load at referral hospitals such as Sungai Buloh Hospital, following concerns that its doctors are overworked.

After it was highlighted that the hospital’s Orthopaedic Specialist Clinic had to see 300 patients on June 30, 2025, the ministry said the number had also included family members or caregivers.

“We understand the difficulties faced by patients and their families, especially concerning waiting times,” it posted on X yesterday.

“The Ministry of Health is aware of the high patient load at referral hospitals such as Sungai Buloh Hospital and continuous efforts are being made to improve patient flow.”

The ministry said that its review showed that 158 patients attended the clinic that day.

“This is a common practice in public healthcare facilities, particularly for elderly patients and children,” it said, referring to the presence of family members and caregivers.

It was responding to a social post with a photo of a notice for clinic staff, saying that merely three medical officers and one specialist were present to attend to 300 patients.

“The clinic was staffed by three specialists and three medical officers, in accordance with the existing schedule and capacity,” the ministry insisted, contradicting the clinic’s notice.

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KKM SeRinggit Fiasco apa lagi nak ckp?

Okla tu.

We can fly Palestinians from EGYPT for fast and special treatments, not to mention build hospitals for them.

Malaysians needs? What is that?

Theres nothing free in life. Something gotta give. Gov run on a limited budget. You want a utopia in kkm singgek public healthcare? Be prepared to pay more in SST…. Probably 10 to 12% next year onwards:

Yes — Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim explicitly linked the SST increase to funding public services like healthcare and education.

On June 20, 2025, while addressing Finance Ministry staff, Anwar explained that expanding the SST is a way to reclaim subsidies and redirect that money to schools and hospitals:

“What we’re doing now is removing those subsidies… Through this, we save RM4 billion. And what is that RM4 billion for? It goes to the schools and hospitals.” 

He further clarified that the move isn’t about penalising citizens but about broadening the tax base to support crucial services — including increased funding for the Ministry of Health — as part of broader fiscal reforms ().

So yes, Anwar did say that the SST expansion (raising service tax from 6% to 8%, along with a broader sales tax) is part of the government’s strategy to boost revenue to support the healthcare budget.

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Jul 4 2025, 12:15 PM

The Ministry of Health received approximately RM 45.3 billion in 2025, up from RM 41.2 billion in 2024—a RM 4.1 billion increase, equivalent to 9.8% .
• PhillipCapital and BMI forecasts also noted this jump: a 10% increase, with annual health spending expected to grow around 8.7% annually through 2028.

So if you heard “8% increase,” it’s likely a rounding down of the actual ~9.8% rise—or referencing the projected annual growth of about 8.7% in healthcare spending.

In the future with national healthcare keep increasing at an average rate of 10-11%. Expect your golden tongkat ron95 subsidy woso to be abolished almost fully. To fund your dream of rm1 free healthcare more doctors and hospitals in malaysia

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Jul 4 2025, 12:14 PM

as i mentioned, raykat are stupid . marehsian raykat deserve the govt they have. whether it is madani, mahathir or whoever, all those are just an extension of the raykat's brain.

they cant see beyond the superficial...that's why, decades after decades, all our politikus can play around with them .

doctor see them for 5 mins only, while they waited for 3 hours... then they say doctor makan gaji buta

while theyre the one buta didnt see outside so many other people waiting also. it didnt register in their brain that instead of using that 4 minutes to vent to the dr and hence only left with 1 minute of consultation, that they should think of how to make the system better by making those who they voted in take action.

write letter of complaint " dr wasnt patient at all, interrupted me when i was telling him how 20 years ago i started to have some headache on and off and after that i saw bomoh and it was cured forever. " . then dr have to spend more time writing a reply instead of seeing patients.

and then they say "must punish doctor because they taking shortcuts... they only care about money..they ask govt to raise consultation KKM fee from RM1 to RM5. they dun care about raykat."

then doctor more frustrated and leave. and then from 5 minutes per person, it becoems 3 or 2 minute

all this is because of stupid raykat who dont see root cause of problem.

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Jul 4 2025, 12:17 PM

300, fcking, patients, per day!!!

if I'm the doctor there I think I will turn crazy

and also why the fk are there so many people with back problems

yes, kasi raise to RM100 per visit should reduce the workload.. good for gov income also

Pipur think gomen budget unlimited to support your personal ideal dream of a more higher standard free universal healthcare?

Bruh, national healthcare and education eats up a huge chunk of malaysian gov budget.

National healthcare is a huge cost centre blackhole for gomen. IT IS NOT A PROFIT MAKING ENTITY unlike PETRONAS

Be realistic. If you earn rm5k a month do you drive a honda civic? Tesla? Bmw?

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Jul 4 2025, 12:19 PM

the problem goes deeper than lack of doctors.

It's the retention problem.

KKM similar to other public service job. The management dominated by old dinosaurs that doing serious gatekeeping, all they want is auto-pilot everything until the day they retire. During the time up to retirement, they shaped the department into such ecosystem where passionate ppl who wished for change get pushed out to private sector. Which is why by natural selection the whole upper management is predominantly the type that like to goyang kaki tak apa attitude do minimal wait retirement.

Those that passionate and work like normal human being rather spend their effort in private sector, at least they get paid accordingly there. And most of all they wont get discriminated.

Yes.

Tax private health care and next you know it is 600 patients not 300

Madani not interested.

also health minister : we are aware but there is also nothing we can do about it

retention is one issue
lack of doctors is even more serious

the UITM and cardiothoracic surgeon issue until today haven't resolved and they seem to not bother to resolve

Yesterday went T20 clinic, hairan the charges only RM35 consultation fee

nabehhhhhhhh duno is the recent stress from the news, me sudah 20years dont have such low charges.

and it's 7pm, the doctor had 50patients for the day, along with 4 nurses.

1 day say not enough doctors.

Then another day too much doctors.

Dafuk

Not sustainable current free fees

orthopedic patients..especially for spine problem

consult doctor - x-ray, ct or mri, radiologist interpret- doctor explain the treatment.

above will take you days even weeks in GH..

if you got money or insurance...max 2 days in private.

This post has been edited by wong_86: Jul 4 2025, 01:05 PM

How do u even solve this?

Like what doctor wants to work here also?

charge higher fees is alright, rm1 is like wtf for 2025

Tak apo janji best moh

Cukur
4 doctor sudah cukup
Kerajaan banyak berjimat

Kalau boleh, increase the working hours to 24 hours per doc per day.

they didn't even solve it
in fact they made it even worse

Kenapa tak pergi private?

so proud of RM1 healthcare they say

some ppl doesnt like trump way of doing thing, on his first day he already sign > 50 laws changes.

meanwhile madani ? dont know what they scared to do the right thing?
instead of raising fees for clinic consultation/visit, they went and raise SST ??

Malaysians must always enjoy RM1 or RM 5 only medical consult fee

This is why Malaysia is the best country in the world

Kalau rm1, set time limit, each patient 10 seconds, affer 10 seconds, get out.

meanwhile private hospital not enuf patients and sales. Need to do marketing to attract patient.

can see more private hospital specialist doing ads in fb and insta.

For school and hospital or kota madani

Problem is DAP cartels. Those coffers belong to rakyat not them

Penat gaduh dgn org "bijak" dan smartasses in /k/ yg insist we have too much doctor la, doctor in kkm too entitled la lol

You dont realize, KKM needs doctors more than doctors need KKM.
Singapore, aussie, new zealand ,middle east, europe all offering super good offers.

😅

and also private hospitals grow like mushrooms, grow faster than our GH

sunway business so good already built one at Damansara there liao
KPJ opening one soon in Kuala Selangor

draining more of the insurance monies, never ending increase of everyone's insurance price

"hi, want to CLAIM INSURANCE or self pay?"

My friend doctor in hkl. She say always the maternity ward taken be rogingya and refugees.

She treat more refugees than locals. This is where our taxpayer money go

You know, during the last meeting with the hospital higher ups to discuss the ongoing manpower shortage at the outpatient specialist clinic....

Their solution to the long wait time (>90 mins) was to set a time limit of 5 minutes for each patient.

Lmao as if all our patients are straight-forward cases, some need surgeon consultation, some need outgoing referral or imaging.

Bodo la

“The clinic was staffed by three specialists and three medical officers

reduced or always been 3 and 3?

i though ktard said MOH is the BESTESTEST????????????????????

free market they say. doktor sudah cukup gaji, apasal tak puas lagi? kalau tak suka keluar la, ni free market.

then when free market means doctors migrating, and those left behind so little that each patient has 5 mins with a doctor after spending 3 hours waiting..... the same kind of person will go "woi wtf dr pemalas dalam klinik , yang lain tamak semua dah keluar , kasi halang mereka dari bekerja luar negara!!! pengkhianat !!!"

wait... what's free market again?

seen before many kturds say that, and they say aiya other industry also same ma what makes dr special.


sohai meh, if follow other industry, all the best dr wil already value their services at rm1000 per consult and people will have no choice but to go. dont sohai to compare diff industry where there is real free market.

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Jul 4 2025, 02:18 PM

wtf so 5 minutes is real.. i tot just now i wrote 5 minutes initially i scared kena LOD from KKM and menteri kesihatan

so i edited to 10 mins.....

people dun understand.... they think the doctors work for money only

if it's just for money only u wont have doctors opting to specialize in diff fields, they will just all go to the fields that make the most money

and the lowest income fields wont have any doctors working at all.

but clearly , this is not the case.

Yes, we raised concern that this will affect patient's quality of care because this will incentivize doctors to just clear their pending cases instead of taking the time to see the patients holistically.

Totally iswept under the rug and they gave themselves a pat on their backs after mesyuarat bersurai kek

Nowadays if a patient that I am seeing complains of long waiting time or short consult I just ask them to make a formal complaint via sispa.

Private Hospitals & relate health care will never says not enough patients/sales.

Many are also head hunting for doctors, nurses and health care workers.

lmao

sispa should sispa then hosp director

btw the hospital system itself is flawed

like my friend said why does he have to go down to the radiology unit to talk to a radiology MO , when nowadays we have phone call. hesee a patient in the clinic , gotta run to the radiology unit about 5-10 mins, then tell them the case without the computer right in front of him, then run back to the clinic to see the patient who has been waiting for 30 mins just for him to say "sorry radiology team say this scan cannot do today, u wait 2-3 months"

when people refer to surgeon do they need to run into the operating theatre and present the case to them?

this is utter inefficiency.

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Jul 4 2025, 02:32 PM

Ahnehhhhh, kasi teh tarik manis satuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! Mau kau2 mia

ala....all the elaun MP segala reduce and give Dr/teachers la...

duit poket mau, votes pun mau, kirija tak mau buat

brain 404

these are also many smaller private hospitals operating at a loss, some even closing down.

so at the end, is the marketing and the doctors inside the hospital pushing for sales, such as offering treatments that is high profit margin (simple to do, low risk, but costs more)

important is, do they pay?

chakap kosong saja.

maybe we need vending machine with Ai doctor

just key in symptoms and machine dispense meds

Increase kkm budget
Better celery for healthcare people
Inb4 kita inport je lah

They probably had thought of that long ago and also explored any other possible solutions that all of us here can think of here. Some things/data are hidden from us why they aren't doing/increasing/executing certain things too. It'll be best that we leave it to them..

well during the covid time or even during massive influenza season, hospital did running out of bed and cant accept new patient that requires hospitalization.

kkm rm1 aje

Please be patient, billions upon billions of foreign investment is coming for us to be able to upgrade our medical infra and pay our healthcare personnel well

Wah good can show this to customer when selling medical card .

ktard memang pandai, suggest the unpopular stuff here and there, but when gomen did what they suggested, they are the one paling lantang bising.

just clone brain into chatgpt. elon buat apa lagi cepat la

madani will read this post and decide to take another 3 gorillion from /k income base for r&r

Sure, we can increase 2x 3x more docs, nurse, hospital, medication for kkm singgek. But it is coming out of raykat taxpayers money. Docs can only entertain 50 or less patient a day. Double triple their salaries as well.

Are you okay with 14% or even 18% SST and ron95 rm2.80 to fund the healthcare annual budget?

Either way it is coming out of raykat taxpayer money to fund the universal free healthcare

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Jul 4 2025, 04:25 PM

complainer mana pikir masak2, thats why i just let gomen do whatever they want.
on every decision that gomen made, theres always real persons behind the decision.

High tax & less subsidies to cover the mis-management & songlap?
#ApaMaluBossKu?

Generally the government don't even admit there is a critical shortage. So why would they spend money on it?

The current health minister sudah nangis-nangis, banyak janji-janji manis in bajet 2025. No real action pun.

In the end ask u to pakai Ur own EPF money.

Lol

syabas Kerajaan Madanon BMX !!

PHcais and PHdogs say only B40 troublemakers rely on KKM seringgek, they are T20 or at the very least M40, they no fuck given to KKM seringgek they all got insurance or can afford private.

and since PHcais and PHdogs being true M40/T20, they got hate boner for B40 pipu so they actually secretly celebrating about KKM collapsing.

PHcais and PHdogs say go ahead BMX, build one more hospital at Gaza so that B40 suffer more

This post has been edited by Optizorb: Jul 4 2025, 05:26 PM

Very few country have free healthcare. Malaysia need to keep up with time and sustainability models.
Maybe start charging RM 50 flat rate per consultation unless you are registered poverty class. Doctors and nurses need to be paid fair living wage for their expertise

This post has been edited by killdavid: Jul 4 2025, 05:25 PM

Budget ke jakim lagi penting
Pmtax can fakoff laa

Rm50 mahal then swasta already
Charge rm10 per entry much better than rm1
Atleast give big slap to Malaysian to always take care of their own health

You go see regular GP clinic already RM50.
This is hospital, with specialists and equipment like x-ray , etc ... RM50 is damn cheap vs other countries

50 is too much. Maybe 20-30/visit.

Blame malaysians unhealthy lifestyle, goreng, sugary sweet stuffs, lazy to walk
U all deserve it

Also can, just go and see the service they give for prenatal checkups, is very good and I cannot believe its free or rm1. Post natal check free, come to your house summore. Vaccinations for kids free, private 1k +
How to sustain ? Tax people more they complain. Remove subsidies, complain. Only solution is to start charging more.

This post has been edited by killdavid: Jul 4 2025, 05:37 PM

One way to solve is to open more medical schools in MY and increase the medical students intake. Give student bonds to these graduates to work at KKM for 1-5 years as trainee/internship, so that current docs aren't overload. What I noticed here is too many patients but too few doctors, causing them to OT daily which makes them burnout. You also cannot tahan work 18thrs a day, but why force doctors to do the same?

So, just get in more student intakes in medicines, and then we will have more junior docs to cover the night shifts, and let the remaining docs more time off.

The brain drain thing cannot be help already, because MY ringgit too weak. Neighbour SG already can pancing them easily at any time, so no point raising salary. What these docs need is no more OT, and more rest time. So increasing medical students to cover the shortage is the best way for now.

As much as I like KKM seringgit or five but sadly this is the thing I agreed to increase from existing rate but still lower than private rate for our future healthcare sustainability.
It will soon collapse if we don't do anything to it much like our civil servants pencen.

U said tak cukup.
But government said they don't have enough post for new doctors and nurses, that's why they have to offer contract instead of permanent post.

So, cukup or tak cukup?
Or tak mau spend money?

/k logic, earn 5k drive Ferrari...

I think the issue is not paying more. It is the taxation. Previously as opposition , they were so against taxation and says Petronas can handle, they stop corruption can pay a lot, etc etc. now they are governing, they are doing things that they were against in first place or unable to show that corruption is not rampant ie money is not flowing into the government coffers from supposedly less or zero corruption. Not to mention that we have a travelling salesman who does know how to sell but likes to spin that he is selling billions and trillions …..

Just imagine if this is BN/PN government who announced all these taxes….what do you think the PH guys will say based on their past actions? Your answer is as good as mine.

Nobody likes to be taken as fools.

This post has been edited by fongsk: Jul 4 2025, 06:01 PM

I think we are indeed short of doctors and medical staffs but KKM do not have enough budget to employ more.
Our Healthcare is basically bleeding money every year. Every patient seen is losing money to KKM the charges not only not enough to cover doctor salary moreover with medication somemore.

This post has been edited by quintesson: Jul 4 2025, 06:03 PM

we need to trainb more bomoh, than religious studies in egypt. this will also supercharge the industri kelapa muda.

This post has been edited by nasiputih: Jul 4 2025, 06:02 PM

Machem My condo residences lar, manytau bisink complen saja why pak guard tak cukup??? Every year i gip 2 option budget owners pilih u mao more guards, boleh, satu rumah maintenance fee rm480 sebulan.

Mao maintain sekarang, maint fee sama saja. Topkek every single year present, tara ssorang pun mao angkat tangan tambah guard naik maintenance fee….

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Jul 4 2025, 06:03 PM

post this at your condo

The money to pay KKM doctors and nurses salary doesn't not come from KKM budget la.

Yes — in Malaysia, the salaries for government doctors, nurses, and other healthcare staff are paid from the annual budget allocated to the Ministry of Health Malaysia (Kementerian Kesihatan Malaysia, KKM).

Here’s how it works in brief:

✅ KKM’s annual budget is approved under the Belanjawan Negara (National Budget) by the Ministry of Finance and Parliament.
✅ Part of this budget goes to Emolumen (emoluments), which covers salaries, allowances, and other benefits for permanent and contract staff (including doctors, nurses, medical assistants, pharmacists, etc).
✅ Other parts of KKM’s budget cover things like hospital maintenance, medicines, equipment, public health programmes, and development projects.

So yes — government doctors and nurses are directly paid from the KKM allocation under the federal government’s operating budget.
If you’d like, I can help break down the latest figures (like how much of KKM’s budget goes to salaries vs. other expenses). Would you like that?

why simple cases need doktor spesialist to prescribe panadol?
get our bomohs to handle simple cases. prescribr panadaul, air kelapa & rambutan
even /k can prescribed panadol berpapan2.

This post has been edited by nasiputih: Jul 4 2025, 06:22 PM

Same thing. One side implement, they other side will come up with attacks and reason not to implement. Both sides same. We as rakyat have to be smart. We know it is not sustainable today. We were not the wiser back then. Just implement.

Good idea boss

Ini sebab jangan percaya sangat dengan janji-janji manis, nangis-nangis orang atasan KKM.
They can't decide pun.

The big boss ada nangis for our puby healthcare? Dia relax je.

As a KKM patient, I defend the nurses and doctors who work there.

msia ppl logic

orang ambil gaji no need up salary, bcos msia got no inflation...

look at the rural area gaji, still like 20y ago...

Exactly. I am all for subsidies removal! And provide assistance through whatever name they call. Easy peasy.

And tax? GST. Simple ab transparent. But then due to all the bad vibes given by the then oppo on GST, now they cannot implement and have to go through all sort of rubbish taxes which is more complex to handle and subject to abuse by the lawmakers and private entities, ie more ‘abuses of the system’ if you know what I mean. 😉

Just change from singgit to 10 ringgit.

You get 3000 instead of 300 per day.

Can hire a few more loktor.

Jus like politic, the team remain the same and employing their own ppl own team not for rakyat sake but for their own survival

Another billion to jakim

Penjawatan pon limited lah. Bukak med school banyak no point pon. They will blame overload of doctors but in reality they dont offer jobs pon.

And nothing is stopping them from breaking the bond to work elsewhere, 2 3 bulan work boleh settle already the bond.