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PRC Woman Illegally Hires Workers from Her Country, to Renovate Her Home in Malaysia
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9m2w
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Jun 3 2025, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 3 2025, 11:55 AM) But AMDK says China economy collapsing So, they will go back to better times?  Check any trade fairs or exhibitions worldwide . China service providers and manufacturers are now participating there in greater numbers. Not to mention those masquerading as visitors but actually trying to score a sale It's tough like in Europe, like in north America. They wouldn't be coming out this desparately if things were rosy If they collapse god help you and me. Military power like that collapsing not many good possibilities
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9m2w
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Jun 3 2025, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jun 3 2025, 11:56 AM) Normal la those guy are form of migration from poorer countries This one CCP already rich already also want to do that still? Things not rosy back home. It ain't collapsing it aint a bed of roses either. They won't be coming out in droves if it wasn't the case
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Syie9^_^
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Jun 3 2025, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jun 3 2025, 12:53 PM) At least have the decency to pay tax to the host country la No wonder everyone hate CCP, parasitic in nature, already big and rich still want to suck the blood of the poorer countries dry Funny why cheap CCP no go indonesia do work. Indonesia worker must be very better than Chynah
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30624770
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Jun 3 2025, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 3 2025, 12:56 PM) If u source cheap unqualified local contractors also, onus is on u to kena if bomba check and see if u see product that not met sirim. Ayam talking solely on electrical. The others one ayam dono. Get a competent, accredited local contractors and dont support illegal workers who wont pay tax. It is a national betrayal Like on the other thread someone say most people are cheapskate lah It's not only about cheap only but fast too Local company say 2 months but a lot of time, they drag to 3 or 4 months There are so many cases of local companies halfway project lari too National betrayal? They come here and stay here and need to spend here too There's always pros and cons on everything but to some people their minds are too narrow due to their hatred towards China
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9m2w
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Jun 3 2025, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 3 2025, 11:56 AM) won't wipe out, in the end if they wanna do business, have to register SSM, hire local staff and apply worker permit, then that time baru is level playing field. Worker permit cost the most, easily RM10k+ per year. The way they do illegally is just ad hoc job. Their restaurant biz also don't want to comply with local council ruling from signage to lev and grease trap. Comply macam a taboo for them kek
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WaterBuffalo
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Jun 3 2025, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(masamura @ Jun 3 2025, 11:25 AM) Cheaper and faster? Can share contacts ah ? I know house reno by some contractors need to take 2-3 months even though everything need cash upfront. When I bought my house and did my reno, I was expecting my contractors to focus everyday at my house, but what I got is that they'll go missing a few days, then, come back do a bit and then go missing again. Cause most of the reno / ID company work on multiple projects at one one go, and they also outsource certain works to other third-party to do, whom are also working on multiple projects at one go. In the case of this news, the owner import worker directly who don’t work on any other project other than hers, that’s why quicker. That’s why quotation from ID / reno company rarely mention labor charges because if they give a breakdown on how many hours they spent on labor, it will be hard to justify. This post has been edited by WaterBuffalo: Jun 3 2025, 12:08 PM
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JimbeamofNRT
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Jun 3 2025, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jun 3 2025, 11:56 AM) Normal la those guy are form of migration from poorer countries This one CCP already rich already also want to do that still? these CCP if rich better they go to australia or any other european country, what for wanna do this kind of job at some random stranger in strange land? anytime can kena raid what? or better still, run a scam job call center
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JimbeamofNRT
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Jun 3 2025, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 3 2025, 12:01 PM) Their restaurant biz also don't want to comply with local council ruling from signage to lev and grease trap. Comply macam a taboo for them kek their style of work: if can escape then just do it. see the ss19 ccp restaurant case enough lah
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9m2w
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Jun 3 2025, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 3 2025, 12:04 PM) these CCP if rich better they go to australia or any other european country, what for wanna do this kind of job at some random stranger in strange land? anytime can kena raid what? or better still, run a scam job call center Rich ciao liao or still enjoying comfortably Salaryman pick your poison. In a slumping manufacturing sector you either replaced by robot, kena can or lowballed low wages Go out and become your own boss overseas is viable now if its survival
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9m2w
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Jun 3 2025, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 3 2025, 12:05 PM) their style of work: if can escape then just do it. see the ss19 ccp restaurant case enough lah Real topkek fellas KL estabishments like Hakka Restaurant, Nobel House always comply with regulations for generations These guys come in signage also no f care can cry mother and father kek s.
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evangelion
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Jun 3 2025, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(eddystorm @ Jun 3 2025, 11:46 AM) I hired indon for a small renovation, cost is just 1/3 compared to local and get the job done fast no need to queue like few weeks. How you manage them? I have heard some under estimate the job and “almost” want to disappear after half done….
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JimbeamofNRT
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Jun 3 2025, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 3 2025, 12:07 PM) Real topkek fellas KL estabishments like Hakka Restaurant, Nobel House always comply with regulations for generations These guys come in signage also no f care can cry mother and father kek s. really act like gangster they are simple thing also kenot comply, can expect them to throw all kind of shits into the sewers, epf socso memang GG
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Gargamel_gibson
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Jun 3 2025, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 3 2025, 12:01 PM) Their restaurant biz also don't want to comply with local council ruling from signage to lev and grease trap. Comply macam a taboo for them kek How do you think they do it cheaper? 996, pay worker like shxt, ignore all OSHA and environmental regulations, lari income tax. It's not some super secret. That's why shxt like Bangkok building collapsed happen.
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keyibukeyi
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Jun 3 2025, 12:14 PM
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Malaysian Product, Caina work force, win win
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WaterBuffalo
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Jun 3 2025, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Jun 3 2025, 12:08 PM) How you manage them? I have heard some under estimate the job and “almost” want to disappear after half done…. Under estimate is one. Freelance contractor almost always delay job because they give excuse like no worker or taking on too many jobs then dunno how to prioritize. Then sometimes owner also give unclear direction. If customer aji ajo, they dunno how to handle most of the time they just cut lost and go missing.
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9m2w
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Jun 3 2025, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 3 2025, 12:13 PM) How do you think they do it cheaper? 996, pay worker like shxt, ignore all OSHA and environmental regulations, lari income tax. It's not some super secret. That's why shxt like Bangkok building collapsed happen. Shockingly i hear they willing to outbid locals to rent prime spots so they are not exactly cash strapped But my god do they cut corners elsewhere
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DoomCognition
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Jun 3 2025, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(RViN @ Jun 3 2025, 11:46 AM) Big loss for the economy. They're cheaper because they wont pay any taxes here, and won't pay any taxes on China either. This becomes black money. Also since they're only on the tourist visa they won't spend much here either, even compared to those other illegal bangladeshis/indonesians/pakistanis that do contractor work which live here. U think bangla and Indon pay taxes? Taxes does not justify why they are cheaper and more efficient. It's just a poorly put up excuse. As to whether the bangla / indo contribute to local spending, it is not that much. Most of their earnings are sent back to their home country. It's just the way things are. Despite all of this, we still need them.
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Gargamel_gibson
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Jun 3 2025, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 3 2025, 12:14 PM) Shockingly i hear they willing to outbid locals to rent prime spots so they are not exactly cash strapped But my god do they cut corners elsewhere Cost of business, and more importantly mau tunjuk muka A friend in education business told me about how a daughter of "civil servant" come here study master but rent condo in jalan Kia peng.
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9m2w
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Jun 3 2025, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 3 2025, 12:13 PM) really act like gangster they are simple thing also kenot comply, can expect them to throw all kind of shits into the sewers, epf socso memang GG Factories they open here also funny cases I hear from folks who dealt with them, consult for them. Even when given the opportunity to apply for MIDA tax incentives they rather not. Its open to all manufacturers in MY regardless of shareholding. The only folks who do this are probably those that dont manufacture and only swap packaging right...??? My vendor supplies consumables and approach a few before. Mission critical consumables as in if supply stop you ham ka ling. These china factories always tell him to quote the same price as their china suppliers ex work china. else no talk. They say no issue can always get from China. But my vendor put 2 and 2 together, you get disruption in the slightest you basically have intermitent production. Serious companies dont do this. But they can accept. So this tells you again production here is for show maybe? And bulk of stuff they export are rebadge stuff Not illegal also la, they rebadge cant get certificate of origin but these factories should be reclassified as non FDI contributing and be barred from purchasing prime land kek
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