Why doctor so greedy?

Cannot work in kkm 10 - 20 years then only go solo or private ke? What's the problem 🤭

Kesian. Not all panel can untung 1.

Clinic is just another business

Loss or profit is possible

All open clinic at city.
Almost every street got a clinic.

How to survive?

Too low sales for u might be ok/high to others… what is the cost structure? Only sell medi? No income from consultation and other treatments? Covid test, injections, etc..
The tweet doesn’t give a clear picture

If rugi sell medication, sell MC.

Now untung gila vavi d?

you want to put a high price on your medicine to cover your loss, it is your choice. But why putting a price list is a problem for your profiteering act? Because you can't cheat people anymore?

Study in USM, fees only 10k for 5 years. This itself is already untung. Other people spent 500k to study in IMU/Monash/MAHSA.

Why suddenly open in ulu place like Ipoh?

And during MCO is when clinics are making big money. While most business have to close, clinics are allowed to operate. Many even making big money providing covid vaccinations.

so he think business is guarantee untung one?

don't be doctor, go open casino

even casino also some president can bankrupt it few time


ohwai

This post has been edited by desmond2020: May 25 2025, 09:36 AM

obviously didn't do due diligence for market study before opening

he think once open sure laku like hot cake even he is just a nobody know MO

Which uni??

Too many doctors already these days. Just like previously same case for engineers, computer science... etc.

Covid la. Nobody plans for covid.
A black swan

Betul especially GPs. Berlambak clinics man.

My friend said the GPs nowadays take the Australian GP exam from Malaysia, and then move there, earn 40k aud pre tax a month. He plans to do the same.

Alternatively AMC exam, leave from gov

I think the end result would still mean there will be GPs in Malaysia, just that gov drs severely lacking

Not everything the private hospital will accept, they will say no bed, no resources to treat this, no expertise even if they actually do. That's what many people still fall to realise. When young and healthy, perspective is not the same until you get rejected by private

USM

covid is a time when clinics are making a killing. earning damn a lot for covid test, then for covid vaccination.

covid test kit RM20, then charge patient RM250. One day can do 100 patients. You do the math.

start small la bodo
test water first
then slowly build up your practice
dr part i dono how to advice

Topkek

Clearly u know nothing about GP practice. Why start business so late when you can start early? Is being a businessman who want to have a work lofe balance greedy?
Palatao tak kerja kat hospital tak tau how hard and toxic it is in hospital.

Not all clinic are in on this action.
In order for clinic to survive well, they need to be panel to big corporations. Then got steady stream of patients who then have to be covid tested in order to work.
If you depend on foot traffic = die

I thought during Covid medical field paling untung. Why are they force close? Aren't they in the essential line should be opening?

Siapo ckp bukak klinik pasti untung?


Flip burger pun boleh rugi bro

can he untung if he sells boner pills? from recent news it looks like a lot of men need it.

Am I missing something?

Covid is where clinic make fast cash no?

I went for covid test it cost rm250 per test of 5 minutes job

initially the test can only be done in covid centers. remember ppl lining up for 5 hours in stadiums? that one

then later only open to selected clinic to do the test. and only selected ones only. i dunno what is the criteria of being selected

Doctor who are nerds decide to get into cuthroat business


Cmon if u are popular doctor with followers maybe. If u know marketing and can do good job at that you can attract people


He never mention any of the sales and marketing job he had to do so I assume he setup clinic and expect many to throng his clinic for treatment


Sorry to say medical is a cut throat business if h think opening up a klinik and expecting to be rich

Why u think fake mc is so popular because need way to survive

cry harder

If he all in crypto back then, now kaya raya oledi

Start early also good..start early rugi early and rugi big

He can open chicken rice stall who cares

How hard/toxic it is to work in hospital?🤭 Mind to share some insights.

It is dog eat dog world, even dentist are popping up here and there


All doctor i know are super rich, maybe, just maybe he is the unlucky one

Not that Kaya la,

Probably few millions ringgit gained

The lady Dr probably misappropriate all the revenue lol. Is it logic the clinic just make RM 20 a day lol ?

If he has that much to lose and all he did is laugh it off on fb he is big enough player.
Average wagecucks lost 150k will hang self already

Biforti like me few million can retire sudah

start business today, want profit tomorrow. cannot la like that. 😅

Why you said he is greedy?

It’s location problem + pandemic time.

Close the clinic and shift elsewhere.

The problem with clinic is you cannot advertise.

Sell MC la, what so hard ? Eat wrong food diarrhea this kind of thing where can verify one ?

I don't know how clinic nowadays survive.

In Setia Alam area, there's more than 14 clinics I saw around here.

Popular clinics such as Mediviron attract a lot of customers. But individual doctor that open their own practice, need to compete with the big name

This post has been edited by xpole: May 25 2025, 10:55 AM

individual operators without big brands need longer time to be trusted by the local community. u need holding power with good service and time

but once the trust is established, u will get steady stream of customers

most ppl just opt to join a franchise, pay a fee to get branding asap

This post has been edited by DarkAeon: May 25 2025, 10:53 AM

gib link to read all of it

thats why not all docs are good

Tunggu lobang & subsidi je.

Duh who duno? The difference is Doctors spent at least 500k to study medicine and countless hours studying their hearts out

Do other business owners spend the same amount to study?


Yes every street has a clinic, what makes the difference between a successful cclinic and a failed one is the doctor.

Ppl will only go to doctors who they trust . If the doctor lacks the soft skills to deal with patients, confirm their clinic will fail even though they have the knowledge.

Being a Dr is not just about being a Dr. Its all about how the doctor talks to the patient, how they make their patients feel good about themselves.

Being a Dr is also a salesjob. U are basically selling your skillset to patients. Whether patients buy your story depends on how good your present yourself

I have been to sorry to say some type M clinics where the doctor is wearing a working shirt and pants but wearing slippers. Besides , he looks like he is there to just make a quick buck. After consulting me, he straight away ran out of the clinic to do something.

These are the clinics which i will ban for life

This post has been edited by sexysarah1992: May 25 2025, 11:12 AM

...meanwhile, ayammm a still working in gomen clinic/hospital earning RM10k+/month able to surf /k every now and then - and rilek2 on weekends...

...but compared to the idiotttsss that didn't even finished their housemanship to join MLM (ie: Affiliate Junction etc) - the private GPs are still better off - at least they got their full medical license from MMC...

ayammm sadding... will never reach /k standard of RM20k/month since me is gomen kuli...

go specialist path

easily 10 times /k standard

even more if go over the strait

>400k in debt for 1st clinic.

He has more than 1?

Not easy.
Limited spot
Need to have carbon nanotube cable

Why always I heard gomen Dr, no life, always on call, 36 hrs shift, etc....
How come you can relax2 on weekend

No kidding, in my area, each row of shophouse got at least 1 clinic. Some row got 2.

Likely govt specialist. Govt specialist is office hour and no oncall. Only the MO die during oncall cause 36H shift.

sounds like a fake story to get engagement

Normal doctor like this is berlambak everywhere. Can get 10k also he happy already. Only those can surgery brain and heart really a pro doctor.

me senior already, grade also high already.
can order kuli (ie Junior doctors) around.

that is why seldom time u see senior dr complaining...

*also - shift is applicable for hospitals (not gomen clinics)

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: May 25 2025, 11:42 AM

Yeah. Too many doctor. Cheap like insurance agent.
Some clinic do until like gym membership offering health screening and package for treatments.

I think it's only applies for non long term staff..

Like freelance cikgu in gomen school also have.. Weekdays gomen school weekend tuition center, then complain income low lol

How to work more than 12 hours shift without at least 8 hours rest before and after ? How is that sustainable?

Doctor job is like hawker level difficult level, different is like back in olden days no computer, have to remember medicines, nowadays I guess anyone who isn't buta huruf can learn medical quit easily especially don't have to memorize that much.

dei
Govt specialist need to oncall la.

Senior doctors got scandal with Missy or not?

I always wonder if Missy is scandalous like stewardess with pilots or rich client 🤭

where to read full story until end?

di /k semua hebat2 business.

True but it is the MO who kena kacau. Specialist only kacau if MO wants to discuss or if case is difficult.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 25 2025, 12:05 PM

I know this isnt worth much but you have my thanks for your selfless service to country

I cant imagine how bad emergency wards can get also in govt hospital and how long queues are at klinik kesihatan

Thanks bro!

Rm20k is the malaysian dream. Just the dream for most of us

wat? no need to thank me. ayammmm /k-tarding as usual.

Its gomen policies that impact the healthcare service.

nowadays SPM leavers dun want to become doktor anymore... the hype is gone just like other courses like comp science and even biotech last time...
(also, thx to certain govt policies like 'contract'-based employment etc)

Gomen hospital facing severe shortage of housemen... in return - shortage of medical officers later on...

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: May 25 2025, 12:07 PM

1. You are kuchingite. Kuching market is many times bigger than Ipoh, he should know better

2. kena con by female partner or possibly gf. forced to get loan himself while she easily just become PIC without contributing significantly in financial?

Australian GP exam, how much?
What's the requirements?

No idea

I would think it's definitely not cheap though

Easily RM10k or more.

the cute2 trainee nurses... are hgnnhhhgnghggnghgnngnngnngnngnggggnnn~
some of the nurses (no more trainee) - are also hngghghghghg......... MILF type...

me is married - dun want scandal2...
last time got specialist (surgeon) piap2 his medical officer behind wifuuu back - got preggy... then fast2 kawin...
the whole surgical fraternity including me (a lowly kuli/slave housemen in Sabah at that time) - knows about it...
(if any /k doc who lurks around reading this that knows about this, can guess who I am talking about and when, can give a like below)

so lesson is - dont shit where u work. dont piap your co-workers/kuli... even hnghghghghghghhhhhhhhhhh~!!!

Can google je
Got friends took this pathway.
From what I know, usually will not get job at those big city.

I can tell you, setting up a clinic is no joke. The cost of operating one is HUGE. You need to be compliant to the PHFSA, which includes having a wheelchair ramp, metal holders in toilets and others. And if you have a few other clinics nearby, you have massive competition to get customers to come your clinic.

"The deal was I will be funding, SHE will be pic"....
There you go.... Kena racun bunga Chibai

Clinic start time 10am loctor reach 11am. Flirt kasi sama syt nurse dulu let patient wait 50mins. 1pm lunch..3pm come back 5pm leave.

Loctor: eh why i went bankrupt when i so expert n i shud profit x999999999999

Location of clinic matters a lot, I hv seen some clinics of the same branch opened in some hidden neighbourhood and I compare with another opened in the main road.

Huge difference in queues.

Well you can ask or read about hartal doktor kontrak for a starter.

Cam bodo je TS

Ni KO cakap greedy? Kesian mental cacat

if even ramly burger seller knows 36H shifts is inhuman, why doktors bosses themselves still force 36H shifts for MO?

lack of sleep = drunk.
no wonder all the /k doktors prescribe 2 papan panadul to all the fatal accident victims.

*jackiechanlegs*

my place just in the taman, got more than 5 different clinic...

Happened during mco... Business mana yang tak affected during that time?

that is the problem.... same problem also with pharmacies... too many in a single area....
die2 dont want to setup shop in a more rural area/city outskirts + poor marketing (just dont overdo it - CKAPS/CPF watching)...

Personal loan?

Giler ka

Doctor course need some finance and business subjects lol

Yes.

Surprisingly I don't see many pharmacies in kampung or rural areas

Orang kampung banyak berduit woo. Dont underestimate them

Want money can become businessman or politician, doctor good profile. But not lapsap type like akmal from russia la, can't even differentiate gastric and heart attack

That's the thing
After reached a certain level of course they don't want to sacrifice already. Already paid the dues
Let the younger generation pay theirs
It has been a continuous cycle. We'll see the end of it sooner than later

Clinic for makan gaji.
For bussiness sometimes kena tukar bidang.

Dont forget toilet opening size. They come with laser thingy measure your toulet size. If not big enough, need to renovate. Really nonsense act so many stupid rule

The reality is our universities churned out too many doctors and many are substandard, could only become GP.

Same goes with dental clinics too. My friend dental clinic kena

People visit GP for MC la…

If really so sick, terus go private and call for admission liao lor. Can claim medical card

True, my place one small street just how many clinics
Demm

For a clinic to depend on meds sale to survive is stupid. Clinics can never match economy of scale of pharmacies.

To be fair I didn’t see he mentioned he think the business will guarantee untung. I don’t know where you got that idea.

Even casino also no guarantee will untung.

This post has been edited by abm: May 25 2025, 03:03 PM

kinda funny... a medical doctor thinking that opening a klinik is a sure 100% win way of making money...
but when being asked if a certain illness can be cured 100% of the time without any issue... we better run away if the said doctor answered yes.

running a biz and being a doc are 2 very different economic activities

Doctor should prioritise saving life not making money

everybody want to do own biz.
work for gov not enough $$$