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Ts salty didn’t buy before la tu [ 31 ] ** [28.97%]
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post Apr 27 2025, 05:36 PM, updated 7 months ago

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Actually not just Elmina, see Bandaraya serenia also jam gila babi nowadays

Semenyih and puncak Alam no need say dy

https://malaysiagazette.com/2025/04/26/the-...broken-promise/


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post Apr 27 2025, 05:38 PM

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Sime babi
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Well, based on the newspaper, can't blame elmina, its the other township using elmina infra to cut through, maybe should ask why other township not building proper infra
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post Apr 27 2025, 05:43 PM

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KV 10 millions population by 2030.

limited resource stretched.

KV NOT FOR HUMAN LIVE ONE!

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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ Apr 27 2025, 05:42 PM)
Well, based on the newspaper, can't blame elmina, its the other township using elmina infra to cut through, maybe should ask why other township not building proper infra
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The problem with Elmina is always the connectivity .. even it they blocked the other township traffic they will merged eventually on the highway

The highway only have Dash and NKVE which both are heavy traffic routes .. other huge development have lot of alternatives
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post Apr 27 2025, 05:51 PM

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1 thing that I don't understand why some people purchase a house/apartment in an area where there are no alternative roads that you can use to avoid jam, flood and other natural causes.

Just because the house design looks pretty, it doesn't mean that you need to buy it. You have to survey around the areas tons of times before you decide to buy the house.
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post Apr 27 2025, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Apr 27 2025, 05:38 PM)
Sime babi
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post Apr 27 2025, 05:57 PM

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i nearlee buy here.. luckily i buy at other part of shah alam. but still dead lock by federal highway..owai

everywhere also jam de la...
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post Apr 27 2025, 05:59 PM

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when your house becomes a shortcut to other roads
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post Apr 27 2025, 06:08 PM

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Kenapa tak beli di KL direct ? Hahaha
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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ Apr 27 2025, 05:42 PM)
Well, based on the newspaper, can't blame elmina, its the other township using elmina infra to cut through, maybe should ask why other township not building proper infra
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thing is, why PH PKR Selangor govt keep on approving new development projects


in bukan salahan BN tau

PKR has been reigning Selangor since 2008

mana feasibility study, and like what the article suggested, traffic feasibility studies?
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Just make new highway
PJD link tukar to elmina link
More money for crony
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It’s some project, what do you expect? To be smooth ?
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post Apr 27 2025, 06:20 PM

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Buy where there’s alternative transport like trains. Even if it means living in an apartment. Landed houses are overrated anyway.

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Damn 7 far.

Went there from PJ to meet client also 1 hour+ on weekday afternoon
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post Apr 27 2025, 06:21 PM

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post Apr 27 2025, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Apr 27 2025, 06:20 PM)
Buy where there’s alternative transport like trains. Even if it means living in an apartment. Landed houses are overrated anyway.
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typical Type-C will say tak de muka being looked down by friends and mother in law
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post Apr 27 2025, 06:32 PM

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Yeah la. Elmina Memang tuck at a dead end.
Sales agent will say well connected.
Got Dash got GCE. Even say 12 mins to KLCC ( that’s driving at 150km/hr at mid night when go no car. !

The fact is GCE connect to NKVe which is a bottle neck. All other NKVE exit like subang , Damansara or Duta also bottle neck.

DASh- Memang kena conned- no direct in and out to Elmina.

Then they will say Elmina and Denai are side by side. Bro and sister. Well planned out township.

But they are very much lacking- international school, hospital, good mall.
And remember- SD Memang not good at their commercial.

Well- hope the master plan is complete and not so much more new development ba. Else traffics will only get worse.
Let see if they start building more condo/mix development.

And oh ya…. No LRT and MRT too

So…. WFH and Study from home is the way forward.
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post Apr 27 2025, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Apr 27 2025, 05:59 PM)
when your house becomes a shortcut to other roads
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Make it a gated and guarded community. Block outsiders from using the roads.
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post Apr 27 2025, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Apr 27 2025, 06:32 PM)
Yeah la. Elmina Memang tuck at a dead end.
Sales agent will say well connected.
Got Dash got GCE. Even say 12 mins to KLCC ( that’s driving at 150km/hr at mid night when go no car. !

The fact is GCE connect to NKVe which is a bottle neck. All other NKVE exit like subang , Damansara or Duta also bottle neck.

DASh- Memang kena conned- no direct in and out to Elmina.

Then they will say Elmina and Denai are side by side. Bro and sister. Well planned out township.

But they are very much lacking- international school, hospital, good mall.
And remember- SD Memang not good at their commercial.

Well- hope the master plan is complete and not so much more new development ba. Else traffics will only get worse.
Let see if they start building more condo/mix development.

And oh ya…. No LRT and MRT too

So…. WFH and Study from home is the way forward.
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All true, but the house price there don’t play play oh

Many houses price in million dy, terrace also min 700k-800k

These area premium
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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 27 2025, 05:51 PM)
1 thing that I don't understand why some people purchase a house/apartment in an area where there are no alternative roads that you can use to avoid jam, flood and other natural causes.

Just because the house design looks pretty, it doesn't mean that you need to buy it. You have to survey around the areas tons of times before you decide to buy the house.
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You are buying the future at history price.
you want everything ada one 2x 3x Harga d lor
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post Apr 27 2025, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 27 2025, 05:51 PM)
1 thing that I don't understand why some people purchase a house/apartment in an area where there are no alternative roads that you can use to avoid jam, flood and other natural causes.

Just because the house design looks pretty, it doesn't mean that you need to buy it. You have to survey around the areas tons of times before you decide to buy the house.
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elmina is one thing

I lagi kenot brain those who bought prop at eco grandeur puncak alam sana

that place is like freaking far and yet expensive too
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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 27 2025, 05:51 PM)
1 thing that I don't understand why some people purchase a house/apartment in an area where there are no alternative roads that you can use to avoid jam, flood and other natural causes.

Just because the house design looks pretty, it doesn't mean that you need to buy it. You have to survey around the areas tons of times before you decide to buy the house.
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if one makes a living out of remote based work then it is fine

I cannot brain those people staying outskirt, have no access to mass transit, then everyday need to wake up at 5am to fetch kids to daycare/school, then going to work, arrive office earlier then just sleep in the car

end of the month pay maintenance fee but hardly got time to enjoy the landscape sceneries

really cannot brain

those are imaginary T20s with corporate slavery leash tied on their neck laugh.gif



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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 27 2025, 06:42 PM)
elmina is one thing

I lagi kenot brain those who bought prop at eco grandeur puncak alam sana

that place is like freaking far and yet expensive too
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I have an ex colleague that live at Puncak Alam but work at cyberjaya area. 😂🤣

Yes it's true, Puncak Alam is too far to go anywhere. You buy at Setia Alam is much better than Puncak Alam.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 27 2025, 06:44 PM)
if one makes a living out of remote based work then it is fine

I cannot brain those people staying outskirt, have no access to mass transit, then everyday need to wake up at 5am to fetch kids to daycare/school, then going to work, arrive office earlier then just sleep in the car

end of the month pay maintenance fee but hardly got time to enjoy the landscape sceneries

really cannot brain

those are imaginary T20s with corporate slavery leash tied on their neck laugh.gif
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those are sh type I tell u

slaves to the corps, paying interest to the bank like f for the so called dream house but u cannot enjoy life
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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 27 2025, 06:44 PM)
I have an ex colleague that live at Puncak Alam but work at cyberjaya area. 😂🤣

Yes it's true, Puncak Alam is too far to go anywhere. You buy at Setia Alam is much better than Puncak Alam.
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your ex kolik is really something mang sweat.gif
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Jam. Everywhere jam.
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QUOTE(novblaze @ Apr 27 2025, 06:39 PM)
You are buying the future at history price.
you want everything ada one 2x 3x Harga d lor
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for landed, maybe.

not for condo definitely
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only easily gullible believe what developer advertise


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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 27 2025, 06:42 PM)
elmina is one thing

I lagi kenot brain those who bought prop at eco grandeur puncak alam sana

that place is like freaking far and yet expensive too
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Becos of jungle and "greenery". Natural human instinct. Developers know this and will cash in on this.

The vast majority of humans do not realize is, Money/Development and Environment cannot mix.

If developers had their way, there won't be any greenery in the entire Klang Valley. Last time the jungle at Elmina is a big big jungle. Got Orang Asli villages there also. All got evicted and the entire forest got chopped down in turbo mode during Toyol time.







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I think there is a dam near Elmina...is the dam still there or not ?
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GCE said thank you.
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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Apr 27 2025, 05:38 PM)
Sime babi
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True
As one of their buyer (not elmina) workmanship cb
Terok. Only good in branding
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 27 2025, 06:55 PM)
Becos of jungle and "greenery". Natural human instinct. Developers know this and will cash in on this.

The vast majority of humans do not realize is, Money/Development and Environment cannot mix.

If developers had their way, there won't be any greenery in the entire Klang Valley. Last time the jungle at Elmina is a big big jungle. Got Orang Asli villages there also. All got evicted and the entire forest got chopped down in turbo mode during Toyol time.
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ah toyol time

bukit lanjan also all gone already
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QUOTE(AyamBannedTwice @ Apr 27 2025, 06:57 PM)
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As one of their buyer (not elmina) workmanship cb
Terok. Only good in branding
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tell me about it.

from usj to putra heights, getting worse actually
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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Apr 27 2025, 06:55 PM)
not on par with its high keras name laugh.gif
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Elmina sounds like a Nissan car.
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QUOTE(Ku9 @ Apr 27 2025, 06:37 PM)
Where lrt MRT
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Atas people who can afford the houses will never use LRT lah. Too low keras for that.

What is the point of big car if every day park in the house syiok sendiri. Must show off wat and use it. laugh.gif


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More like Selangor not for humans anymore. Jam everywhere. Flood everywhere.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 27 2025, 07:02 PM)
tell me about it.

from usj to putra heights, getting worse actually
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Ayam in different township
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QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 27 2025, 07:13 PM)
More like Selangor not for humans anymore. Jam everywhere. Flood everywhere.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 27 2025, 07:03 PM)
Elmina sounds like a Nissan car.
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yes. also could be intended as modern feminine name wannabe.
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Buy more cars lah, buy lah

Now more and more tongsan brands bringing in their SUVs with 'affordable' pricing. Continue buying and b!tch about the traffic
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Weak, Rimbayu also not yet make noise.
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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Apr 27 2025, 06:38 PM)
Sime babi
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There is one land by Sime babi, 20 years down the road before this it was just empty land then suddenly now wanna build one condo, estimating at least 1000 residences,, traffic already so bad during rush hours now wanna build one

Mother fker, I live nearby leh, if I drive by car wanna come out also sudah because cars keep coming in, have to waste additional 5mins go further down traffic make 1 U-turn
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few more highway will fix everything
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Ayam in different township
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You are in Melawati right?

Serini is it?

Saw from your previous post in the Serini thread.

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QUOTE(WongTheThief @ Apr 27 2025, 07:43 PM)
There is one land by Sime babi, 20 years down the road before this it was just empty land then suddenly now wanna build one condo, estimating at least 1000 residences,, traffic already so bad during rush hours now wanna build one

Mother fker, I live nearby leh, if I drive by car wanna come out also sudah because cars keep coming in, have to waste additional 5mins go further down traffic make 1 U-turn
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same thing like in putra heights lah

same access road for the past 27 years towards usj/puchong and yet they keep building new condos
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QUOTE(killeralta @ Apr 27 2025, 07:43 PM)
Weak, Rimbayu also not yet make noise.
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Rimbayu already well known for not having accessibility. Kena con bybyhe developers already.

At least no flooding here except for outside the newly built surau.
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Perhaps haunted due to 2 plane crashes there previously?
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Hahahahhaa same as setia alam.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 27 2025, 07:40 PM)
Buy more cars lah, buy lah

Now more and more tongsan brands bringing in their SUVs with 'affordable' pricing. Continue buying and b!tch about the traffic
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What we need is depopulation

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 27 2025, 07:40 PM)
Buy more cars lah, buy lah

Now more and more tongsan brands bringing in their SUVs with 'affordable' pricing. Continue buying and b!tch about the traffic
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BBBUUU

Jam is the sign of prosperity, car price naik, property price naik

If no jam eh place you want to visit?
If car no naik price where is your RV price?
If property price no naik how you going to rent to bangala?

OWAI

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Next, Govt will appoint some developer to build an elevated bypass toll road to connect directly to Guthrie Corridor Expressway and road heading to KL.


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went to open house this weekend. the jam very bad one. dah la jauh.
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Next, Govt will appoint some developer to build an elevated bypass toll road to connect directly to Guthrie Corridor Expressway and road heading to KL.
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Entirely possible

Those Elmina denai alam Bukit jelutong etc most are T20
Sure koneksyen strong
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More like Selangor not for humans anymore. Jam everywhere. Flood everywhere.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Apr 27 2025, 09:32 PM)
Entirely possible

Those Elmina denai alam Bukit jelutong etc most are T20
Sure koneksyen strong
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Need to be T1 to have strong connection
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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ Apr 27 2025, 05:42 PM)
Well, based on the newspaper, can't blame elmina, its the other township using elmina infra to cut through, maybe should ask why other township not building proper infra
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Ask why town council approved when no own access provided but tumpang others infra and access. Duit sudah kasi, semua jalan!

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Apr 27 2025, 09:32 PM)
Entirely possible

Those Elmina denai alam Bukit jelutong etc most are T20
Sure koneksyen strong
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bkt jelutong also t20 but till now still stuck at the traffic light 100 years
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 27 2025, 10:16 PM)
bkt jelutong also t20 but till now still stuck at the traffic light 100 years
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Now he moved already to banglow inside shah alam iinm, no longer stuck there
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Stay where you work plz
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that place is like freaking far and yet expensive too
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far and expensive is the trendy thing now laugh.gif
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Apr 27 2025, 10:10 PM)
Ask why town council approved when no own access provided but tumpang others infra and access. Duit sudah kasi, semua jalan!
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all the old sifu's dah migrate / retire.
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most peoples that bought elmina usually already working in kl. they just moved there. relocating living places is easier than relocating jobs.
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> 10 years already still jam like fuark, even after DASH completed also jam lol
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basically, the whole Klang valley is not livable.
Every day jam jam jam.. even weekend.

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I remembered staying there bukit subang during my college days. 2005-2010 Apartment Cendana.
Its basically tempat jin bertendang whre we only have 1 petronas, 1 7e, 1 mamak, and 1 grocery shop. traffic is nonexsistence same like human. you can lay down in the middle of the road and nobody would bothers you. lol
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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 27 2025, 05:51 PM)
1 thing that I don't understand why some people purchase a house/apartment in an area where there are no alternative roads that you can use to avoid jam, flood and other natural causes.

Just because the house design looks pretty, it doesn't mean that you need to buy it. You have to survey around the areas tons of times before you decide to buy the house.
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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Apr 28 2025, 08:27 AM)
basically, the whole Klang valley is not livable.
Every day jam jam jam.. even weekend.
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KV jam hasn't reached Penang jam level.

I think still liveable.

Except for bad road planning.


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What we need is depopulation

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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 27 2025, 05:51 PM)
1 thing that I don't understand why some people purchase a house/apartment in an area where there are no alternative roads that you can use to avoid jam, flood and other natural causes.

Just because the house design looks pretty, it doesn't mean that you need to buy it. You have to survey around the areas tons of times before you decide to buy the house.
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In 2023 we booked a unit at Elmina East, house there are really good. Loan also approved already. But after thinking long and hard, never follow through. It's a madness driving into KL day in and day out. So glad we never got it, somemore nowdays offices are all mostly back to 5 days WFO. Beli je lah subsale landed kat KL.
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Everything KV KV KV.

There you go.
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There supposed to have direct access to dash from elimina or Denai alam but resident there petition kow kow using all t20 connections. Now suffering themselves
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Apr 28 2025, 08:38 AM)
KV jam hasn't reached Penang jam level.

I think still liveable.

Except for bad road planning.
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Penang at least the distance from point to point is much shorter

Meanwhile greater KV itself have different municupals different pattern different cibai
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KV where the money at. every high paying job situated at KV. so choice lo. Unless u can wfh and work offsite then cantek...

owai.... in b4 chinaman see your face=got work

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bkt jelutong also t20 but till now still stuck at the traffic light 100 years
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Sooner or later they turn to self sufficient enclaves where most just shop, eat and study there. Lucky you work there

Sg Long, Mahkota, Setia Alam, Ara Damansara
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 27 2025, 06:09 PM)
thing is, why PH PKR Selangor govt keep on approving new development projects
in bukan salahan BN tau

PKR has been reigning Selangor since 2008

mana feasibility study, and like what the article suggested, traffic feasibility studies?
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Same shit different cities. Semenyih, Dengkil, Sepang, Cheras, Elmina, Puncak Alam, all kene same situation.

The F is the Selangor gomen, why keep on approving all housing development but not thinking about the whole other aspect like existing road sizes etc. Then for sure (based on flood situation), they just merge the drain from this newly developed house to existing drain hence flood situation happened. Cheapskate to develop new road to cater this additional people jump in to new houses? Just make additional traffic lights for this at Semenyih and Dengkil which make the jam worst
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 28 2025, 09:27 AM)
Same shit different cities. Semenyih, Dengkil, Sepang, Cheras, Elmina, Puncak Alam, all kene same situation.

The F is the Selangor gomen, why keep on approving all housing development but not thinking about the whole other aspect like existing road sizes etc. Then for sure (based on flood situation), they just merge the drain from this newly developed house to existing drain hence flood situation happened. Cheapskate to develop new road to cater this additional people jump in to new houses? Just make additional traffic lights for this at Semenyih and Dengkil which make the jam worst
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QUOTE(emburrar @ Apr 27 2025, 06:12 PM)
Just make new highway
PJD link tukar to elmina link
More money for crony
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no development and improvement = failed government

highway, public transport infrastructure = cronism

apa lu mau
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 27 2025, 06:09 PM)
thing is, why PH PKR Selangor govt keep on approving new development projects
in bukan salahan BN tau

PKR has been reigning Selangor since 2008

mana feasibility study, and like what the article suggested, traffic feasibility studies?
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I think this one still Ok compared to Jalan Mokhtar Dahari to Puncak Alam. 1 lane, sekejap 2 lane and sekejap 3 lanes. The worst is traffic light exiting alam budiman.
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Penang at least the distance from point to point is much shorter

Meanwhile greater KV itself have different municupals different pattern different cibai
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didn't make any difference for me. Last time I stayed in Batu Ferringghi, took me like 1 hour 30 min to get to georgetown
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Apr 27 2025, 05:36 PM)
Actually not just Elmina, see Bandaraya serenia also jam gila babi nowadays

Semenyih and puncak Alam no need say dy

https://malaysiagazette.com/2025/04/26/the-...broken-promise/
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jam pun tarak hal
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no development and improvement = failed government

highway, public transport infrastructure = cronism

apa lu mau
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Madani = incompetence; forgot this and that

PeeN = everyday complain DAP, zero development, love afganistan level of governance, tell rakyat to remember danger of DAP, beer, concert, pig farm and vernacular but is ok to be jobless, lie and fitinah, dirt track road, drink air coklat and minta donasi from federal govt.

which one better ?

I rather have Madani.

But is because opposition is so crap and talibanistic level, Madani don't bother to improve.

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Apr 28 2025, 09:38 AM)
Madani = incompetence; forgot this and that

PeeN = everyday complain DAP, zero development, love afganistan level of governance, tell rakyat to remember danger of DAP, beer, concert, pig farm and vernacular but is ok to be jobless, lie and fitinah, dirt track road, drink air coklat and minta donasi from federal govt.

which one better ?

I rather have Madani.

But is because opposition is so crap and talibanistic level, Madani don't bother to improve.
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rindu zaman Najib when DAP was the staunch opposition

everyday hear LKS shout shout in and outside parliament

there were times BN succumbed to pressure from then opposition PH

but now? everyone automatically assume PN is sohai

essentially means ZERO opposition and ZERO check and balance in the administration

sikit2 tegur, got greeted with "DIAM LAH" instead

Anthony Loke sudah berubah

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 28 2025, 10:10 AM)
rindu zaman Najib when DAP was the staunch opposition

everyday hear LKS shout shout in and outside parliament

there were times BN succumbed to pressure from then opposition PH

but now? everyone automatically assume PN is sohai

essentially means ZERO opposition and ZERO check and balance in the administration

sikit2 tegur, got greeted with "DIAM LAH" instead

Anthony Loke sudah berubah

DAPig will forever be DAPig
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So what happened to Gelakan and Puas ?

Gelakan good lap dog

Puas everyday worship Talibany and RnR.

So opposition koyak like shit.

I rather be living under corruption than have taliban sampah
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 28 2025, 09:24 AM)
Sooner or later they turn to self sufficient enclaves where most just shop, eat and study there. Lucky you work there

Sg Long, Mahkota, Setia Alam, Ara Damansara
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T20 & M40 don't like self-sufficient enclaves, because they fear shops and restaurants would attract outsiders i.e. B40 to go there.
The trend is towards gated & guarded communities.
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Well, based on the newspaper, can't blame elmina, its the other township using elmina infra to cut through, maybe should ask why other township not building proper infra
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mebe there's not enough experts to enforce proper town planning.

all the old sifu's dah migrate / retire.
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mebe there's not enough experts to enforce proper town planning.

all the old sifu's dah migrate / retire.
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serenia jam? oh u mean LDP and Elite ke?
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Lol stay everywhere also jam la. I stay at Tasik Permaisuri Cheras many years last time also jam.

Focus on Problem Statement:
- No proper infrastructure planning i.e. Roads, Schools, Klinik Kesihatan, Public Transport etc.
- Gomen are too focused on KV Development, we should start scatter businesses to other city as well.
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KV 10 millions population by 2030.

limited resource stretched.

KV NOT FOR HUMAN LIVE ONE!
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Min speed limit will be set and slowpoke drivers will need to activate automated driving and no more slowpoke on the road.
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problem is gov no spread out development, everything in selangor... dei sprea d to n9 la..

also do elmina residence pay DASH RM 4 to uturn back to their exit from KL?
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 27 2025, 06:45 PM)
those are sh type I tell u

slaves to the corps, paying interest to the bank like f for the so called dream house but u cannot enjoy life
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age 30+ go beli at new township located at kundang, elmina, rimbayu, semenyih is really sohai. The amount of travelling time at road consume about 3-4 hrs daily.

Might as well buy high rise at mature township and near to town centre/working place, by age 50+ baru decide which dream house u wanna stay.

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Lol stay everywhere also jam la. I stay at Tasik Permaisuri Cheras many years last time also jam.

Focus on Problem Statement:
- No proper infrastructure planning i.e. Roads, Schools, Klinik Kesihatan, Public Transport etc.
- Gomen are too focused on KV Development, we should start scatter businesses to other city as well.
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u need to go there first..the town and road planning there memang topkek..

in KL a lot of jalan kecil to potong here and there..over there memang limited gila jalan
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 27 2025, 07:02 PM)
tell me about it.

from usj to putra heights, getting worse actually
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From USJ to Ara Damansara to Putra Heights kek

Majority of the wall slanted (not by design), found out when taking measurement for built ins

Pipes from the water tank heading to the rooms across the ceiling not anchored so once i install booster pump started leaking one by one at the joints.

But roof tiles i give it to them. Bland but actually tahan very long. My current place one slightly older than Ara but showing its age



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QUOTE(kira_88 @ Apr 28 2025, 08:33 AM)
I remembered staying there bukit subang during my college days. 2005-2010 Apartment Cendana.
Its basically tempat jin bertendang whre we only have 1 petronas, 1 7e, 1 mamak, and 1 grocery shop. traffic is nonexsistence same like human. you can lay down in the middle of the road and nobody would bothers you. lol
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those were the days when the sungai buloh main road is still small
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 28 2025, 03:00 PM)
From USJ to Ara Damansara to Putra Heights kek

Majority of the wall slanted (not by design), found out when taking measurement for built ins

Pipes from the water tank heading to the rooms across the ceiling not anchored so once i install booster pump started leaking one by one at the joints.

But roof tiles i give it to them. Bland but actually tahan very long. My current place one slightly older than Ara but showing its age
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it seems they had the same problems in every projects, even the same shit happened at Serenia
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 28 2025, 02:10 PM)
age 30+ go beli at new township located at kundang, elmina, rimbayu, semenyih is really sohai. The amount of travelling time at road consume about 3-4 hrs daily.

Might as well buy high rise at mature township and near to town centre/working place, by age 50+ baru decide which dream house u wanna stay.

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indeed. at this point might be as well you wait till u get your kwsp and buy your dream house. u start working at 25 and till 55 torturing yourself everyday, imagine your mental health by the time u reach 55.

I am not surprised in 10-20 years time sungai sepat, morib area , will be filled with condos after condos and gomen will build 2-3 highway connecting to KL/NKVE

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it seems they had the same problems in every projects, even the same shit happened at Serenia
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Really dont make sense. Pipe stretching say 10-15m horizontally just leave it hanging. No pump ok la no kick but once you got pump that f-er gonna rattle until the joints come loose

I mean even if you factor in the future owner wont install pump anchoring it at a few places will make it tidy right?


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Really dont make sense. Pipe stretching say 10-15m horizontally just leave it hanging. No pump ok la no kick but once you got pump that f-er gonna rattle until the joints come loose

I mean even if you factor in the future owner wont install pump anchoring it at a few places will make it tidy right?
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maybe in their mind, ah, those things these ppl wont see one, just like sink, eventually they will change it to a better one

real mofo this dev.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 27 2025, 06:42 PM)
elmina is one thing

I lagi kenot brain those who bought prop at eco grandeur puncak alam sana

that place is like freaking far and yet expensive too
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Belom developed mar.. but that area macam dead city.

Ulu but upsale like atas place
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QUOTE(sihamsedap @ Apr 28 2025, 01:20 PM)
problem is gov no spread out development, everything in selangor... dei sprea d to n9 la..

also do elmina residence pay DASH RM 4 to uturn back to their exit from KL?
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maybe there are resistance to development in areas outside of Klang Valley. Want to acquire land and built new infra (especially highways ) also hard . Sure got politicals groups goreng into RnR issue to "champion" the rakyats. suddenly cost to build even a single stretch of road become x10 . How to spur further development and welcome private investors to flock there ?


Look at the more developed areas/states and see demographics there also know which group more welcome development (and reap both its benefits and problems, traffic jams/overpopulation etc) .

the group that want things as they enjoyed 30 years ago, laidback and all .... ended up causing their offsprings to venture out to more developed cities to make a living.

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 28 2025, 03:47 PM)
maybe in their mind, ah, those things these ppl wont see one, just like sink, eventually they will change it to a better one

real mofo this dev.
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IINm all my walls also slightly slanting hahah

So built in contractors had to adjust abit

Not expecting perfect straight la but i think got several cm difference from bottom to say 5-6 feet up? The contractor was also saying very shoddy, he doesnt need to adjust so much for other projects
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Apr 28 2025, 03:52 PM)
Belom developed mar..  but that area macam dead city.

Ulu but upsale like atas place
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semenyih last time also liddat
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 28 2025, 03:57 PM)
semenyih last time also liddat
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Now become hot liao.. all concentrate at that area.

Really ulu and kampung place
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Now become hot liao.. all concentrate at that area.

Really ulu and kampung place
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i really dont get it what so hot about that place

for retirement? maybelah. but if u work in kl and stay there, that is madness
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Well, based on the newspaper, can't blame elmina, its the other township using elmina infra to cut through, maybe should ask why other township not building proper infra
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Elmina not GnG? Surround it and make it an dead end way.
And flight over to other place.

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i really dont get it what so hot about that place

for retirement? maybelah. but if u work in kl and stay there, that is madness
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Thats the keyword lor retirement

But then it might make sense to get a condo with amnesties to retire in

Comfort and convenience trumps greenery for old ppl and besides once you old lioa you dont need to wake up early and brave jam. As and when you like you go makan, walk the park, jalan2 with wife

Like our old buddy rainman in sg long la. I bet he is full time camped inside that enclave no reason to keluar
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 28 2025, 04:09 PM)
Thats the keyword lor retirement

But then it might make sense to get a condo with amnesties to retire in

Comfort and convenience trumps greenery for old ppl and besides once you old lioa you dont need to wake up early and brave jam. As and when you like you go makan, walk the park, jalan2 with wife

Like our old buddy rainman in sg long la. I bet he is full time camped inside that enclave no reason to keluar
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lulz.

he still lurking around in this forum eh?
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 28 2025, 04:15 PM)
lulz.

he still lurking around in this forum eh?
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Touch grass la. Retired liao take care of grand kids, teman the wife

Not pretend to do it for the sake of showing to ktards kek
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Nice location name but so ulu and far away

Rather stay in PJ areas.. Give me free also don't want
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Touch grass la. Retired liao take care of grand kids, teman the wife

Not pretend to do it for the sake of showing to ktards kek
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i really dont get it what so hot about that place

for retirement? maybelah. but if u work in kl and stay there, that is madness
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KL got house to buy meh. Come suggest a bit.

New development price tag out of reach for majority of ppl. Old house subsale hard to get loan cos bank also think the properties overvalued.

Stay in condo not feasible if got kid, also need to brave jam to go out and into the condo and to work. Also not guaranteed u forever work in KL.
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KL got house to buy meh. Come suggest a bit.

New development price tag out of reach for majority of ppl. Old house subsale hard to get loan cos bank also think the properties overvalued.

Stay in condo not feasible if got kid, also need to brave jam to go out and into the condo and to work. Also not guaranteed u forever work in KL.

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that's why I said, if u work in kl and stay in semenyih, that is madness

if later u got job offer at pj or subang but still u wanna commute from semenyih, that is stupid
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those were the days when the sungai buloh main road is still small
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Along Sg buloh road there's a stream where we stopped to play water a while. Wondering its just my imagination or the event happened elsewhere. Can't locate the stream in google map.

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Well, based on the newspaper, can't blame elmina, its the other township using elmina infra to cut through, maybe should ask why other township not building proper infra
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So called grand planning but failed to plan the in/out traffic. Many township also suffers from this. Not sure what calculation they use to, maybe something from 1980s, that 2 house only 1 car. Nowadays, 1 house easily 2-3 cars.
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Look at usj and bukit raja developments can know their poor traffic planning. How would they do better with elmina?
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Name me one township no jam. While the planning is not perfect, definitely have room for improvement. Just look at IOI, Sunway during its early stage of development, traffic is hell even today. PJ road during rush hour is so bad you hardly get 5-6 km in 30mins.
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Name me one township no jam. While the planning is not perfect, definitely have room for improvement. Just look at IOI, Sunway during its early stage of development, traffic is hell even today. PJ road during rush hour is so bad you hardly get 5-6 km in 30mins.
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Suggestions, Selangor gomen to spend some fund upgrading the exciting old road, bigger drain for example on area with flood area etc. Not just cheapskate asking all people to run through the old road after bought the new house. If complaint many times at PBT, they will add more traffic lights which make jam more worse at peak time
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 27 2025, 06:42 PM)
elmina is one thing

I lagi kenot brain those who bought prop at eco grandeur puncak alam sana

that place is like freaking far and yet expensive too
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I am one of these people, live in Eco Grandeur but work in TRX. I was born and raised in TTDI and my parents still live there. People forget that when TTDI was first developed, it was on the edge of KL, with only one road connecting it to KL and monkeys frolicking all along that road in the dark of the night. That road is now the road towards Semantan towards Bukit Tunku (past Pusat Bandar Damansara). When my father bought his place in TTDI at an eye watering price of RM41,000 in the late 70's, all his friends laughed at him, saying why buy a place so far from them, encouraging him to come to Ampang or Cheras. Guess who is the last one laughing? The value of the house now is easily in the seven figures, of which he could sell if he wants to but chose to stay and enjoy his retirement.

I see the same thing happening in Eco Grandeur. Yes, it is far from KL but as far as quality of life is concern, it is actually very nice, allowing me to enjoy the scenery and the laid back nature of the area, similar to what was available in TTDI. TTDI now is too hip, too commercialise with hipster cafe's, restaurants and posh shops and what not, but Puncak Alam has its own charm. Yes, connectivity is bad right now but given that ECRL is being completed and possibility is high they might extend MRT to Puncak Alam from Kwasa Sentral, I am OK waiting it out a bit. And I will not be forever working in TRX, but my family are happy with the life here, and shops and amenities are a plenty around here. The nearby Elmina Mall also helps. People forget Bandar Utama, Damansara Perdana and Kota Damansara were Palm Oil plantations, the 1U new wing was an empty quarry and there was one small road connecting to Bandar Sri Damansara, but slowly connectivity will improve.

I see the same with Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari, Persiaran Atmosfera and the rest of the connecting roads. Once the politicians remember to do their job, it will improve. The worst culprit for me is the junction in front of Alam Budiman, solve that intersection and it only takes 8 mins from my house to the entrance of DASH. On a good day, it takes 50 minutes to get to TRX, which is fine enough considering the distance. And I can still fall back and take MRT from Kwasa Damansara. So in a way, I am quite covered.

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I am one of these people, live in Eco Grandeur but work in TRX. I was born and raised in TTDI and my parents still live there. People forget that when TTDI was first developed, it was on the edge of KL, with only one road connecting it to KL and monkeys frolicking all along that road in the dark of the night. That road is now the road towards Semantan towards Bukit Tunku (past Pusat Bandar Damansara). When my father bought his place in TTDI at an eye watering price of RM41,000 in the late 70's, all his friends laughed at him, saying why buy a place so far from them, encouraging him to come to Ampang or Cheras. Guess who is the last one laughing? The value of the house now is easily in the seven figures, of which he could sell if he wants to but chose to stay and enjoy his retirement.

I see the same thing happening in Eco Grandeur. Yes, it is far from KL but as far as quality of life is concern, it is actually very nice, allowing me to enjoy the scenery and the laid back nature of the area, similar to what was available in TTDI. TTDI now is too hip, too commercialise with hipster cafe's, restaurants and posh shops and what not, but Puncak Alam has its own charm. Yes, connectivity is bad right now but given that ECRL is being completed and possibility is high they might extend MRT to Puncak Alam from Kwasa Sentral, I am OK waiting it out a bit. And I will not be forever working in TRX, but my family are happy with the life here, and shops and amenities are a plenty around here. The nearby Elmina Mall also helps. People forget Bandar Utama, Damansara Perdana and Kota Damansara were Palm Oil plantations, the 1U new wing was an empty quarry and there was one small road connecting to Bandar Sri Damansara, but slowly connectivity will improve.

I see the same with Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari, Persiaran Atmosfera and the rest of the connecting roads. Once the politicians remember to do their job, it will improve. The worst culprit for me is the junction in front of Alam Budiman, solve that intersection and it only takes 8 mins from my house to the entrance of DASH. On a good day, it takes 50 minutes to get to TRX, which is fine enough considering the distance. And I can still fall back and take MRT from Kwasa Damansara. So in a way, I am quite covered.

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you drive from eco grandeur to trx everyday?
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that is like 40km, 1 hour + journey, at this kind of punya traffic jam, it is really torturing mind and soul

I dont think things will get better , see setia alam, puchong enough lah

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I am one of these people, live in Eco Grandeur but work in TRX. I was born and raised in TTDI and my parents still live there. People forget that when TTDI was first developed, it was on the edge of KL, with only one road connecting it to KL and monkeys frolicking all along that road in the dark of the night. That road is now the road towards Semantan towards Bukit Tunku (past Pusat Bandar Damansara). When my father bought his place in TTDI at an eye watering price of RM41,000 in the late 70's, all his friends laughed at him, saying why buy a place so far from them, encouraging him to come to Ampang or Cheras. Guess who is the last one laughing? The value of the house now is easily in the seven figures, of which he could sell if he wants to but chose to stay and enjoy his retirement.

I see the same thing happening in Eco Grandeur. Yes, it is far from KL but as far as quality of life is concern, it is actually very nice, allowing me to enjoy the scenery and the laid back nature of the area, similar to what was available in TTDI. TTDI now is too hip, too commercialise with hipster cafe's, restaurants and posh shops and what not, but Puncak Alam has its own charm. Yes, connectivity is bad right now but given that ECRL is being completed and possibility is high they might extend MRT to Puncak Alam from Kwasa Sentral, I am OK waiting it out a bit. And I will not be forever working in TRX, but my family are happy with the life here, and shops and amenities are a plenty around here. The nearby Elmina Mall also helps. People forget Bandar Utama, Damansara Perdana and Kota Damansara were Palm Oil plantations, the 1U new wing was an empty quarry and there was one small road connecting to Bandar Sri Damansara, but slowly connectivity will improve.

I see the same with Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari, Persiaran Atmosfera and the rest of the connecting roads. Once the politicians remember to do their job, it will improve. The worst culprit for me is the junction in front of Alam Budiman, solve that intersection and it only takes 8 mins from my house to the entrance of DASH. On a good day, it takes 50 minutes to get to TRX, which is fine enough considering the distance. And I can still fall back and take MRT from Kwasa Damansara. So in a way, I am quite covered.

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I must say you are a positive and a brave man indeed

when I moved from usj to putra heights many years ago also ppl say it is an ulu place, despite it is just behind usj 10 km approximately . but I dont think I am gonna compare ttdi in the 70s with usj in the 90s. to be honest Eco Grandeur is damn far . even from mrt kwasa.

to be honest, I dont think traffic will getting any better. your scenario is just like setia alam in 2015s. before that nkve still bearable.

but now?
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QUOTE(Scirwode @ Apr 29 2025, 02:52 PM)
I am one of these people, live in Eco Grandeur but work in TRX. I was born and raised in TTDI and my parents still live there. People forget that when TTDI was first developed, it was on the edge of KL, with only one road connecting it to KL and monkeys frolicking all along that road in the dark of the night. That road is now the road towards Semantan towards Bukit Tunku (past Pusat Bandar Damansara). When my father bought his place in TTDI at an eye watering price of RM41,000 in the late 70's, all his friends laughed at him, saying why buy a place so far from them, encouraging him to come to Ampang or Cheras. Guess who is the last one laughing? The value of the house now is easily in the seven figures, of which he could sell if he wants to but chose to stay and enjoy his retirement.

I see the same thing happening in Eco Grandeur. Yes, it is far from KL but as far as quality of life is concern, it is actually very nice, allowing me to enjoy the scenery and the laid back nature of the area, similar to what was available in TTDI. TTDI now is too hip, too commercialise with hipster cafe's, restaurants and posh shops and what not, but Puncak Alam has its own charm. Yes, connectivity is bad right now but given that ECRL is being completed and possibility is high they might extend MRT to Puncak Alam from Kwasa Sentral, I am OK waiting it out a bit. And I will not be forever working in TRX, but my family are happy with the life here, and shops and amenities are a plenty around here. The nearby Elmina Mall also helps. People forget Bandar Utama, Damansara Perdana and Kota Damansara were Palm Oil plantations, the 1U new wing was an empty quarry and there was one small road connecting to Bandar Sri Damansara, but slowly connectivity will improve.

I see the same with Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari, Persiaran Atmosfera and the rest of the connecting roads. Once the politicians remember to do their job, it will improve. The worst culprit for me is the junction in front of Alam Budiman, solve that intersection and it only takes 8 mins from my house to the entrance of DASH. On a good day, it takes 50 minutes to get to TRX, which is fine enough considering the distance. And I can still fall back and take MRT from Kwasa Damansara. So in a way, I am quite covered.

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Why bought at Eco Grandeur and not Elmina?
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QUOTE(Scirwode @ Apr 29 2025, 02:52 PM)
I am one of these people, live in Eco Grandeur but work in TRX. I was born and raised in TTDI and my parents still live there. People forget that when TTDI was first developed, it was on the edge of KL, with only one road connecting it to KL and monkeys frolicking all along that road in the dark of the night. That road is now the road towards Semantan towards Bukit Tunku (past Pusat Bandar Damansara). When my father bought his place in TTDI at an eye watering price of RM41,000 in the late 70's, all his friends laughed at him, saying why buy a place so far from them, encouraging him to come to Ampang or Cheras. Guess who is the last one laughing? The value of the house now is easily in the seven figures, of which he could sell if he wants to but chose to stay and enjoy his retirement.

I see the same thing happening in Eco Grandeur. Yes, it is far from KL but as far as quality of life is concern, it is actually very nice, allowing me to enjoy the scenery and the laid back nature of the area, similar to what was available in TTDI. TTDI now is too hip, too commercialise with hipster cafe's, restaurants and posh shops and what not, but Puncak Alam has its own charm. Yes, connectivity is bad right now but given that ECRL is being completed and possibility is high they might extend MRT to Puncak Alam from Kwasa Sentral, I am OK waiting it out a bit. And I will not be forever working in TRX, but my family are happy with the life here, and shops and amenities are a plenty around here. The nearby Elmina Mall also helps. People forget Bandar Utama, Damansara Perdana and Kota Damansara were Palm Oil plantations, the 1U new wing was an empty quarry and there was one small road connecting to Bandar Sri Damansara, but slowly connectivity will improve.

I see the same with Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari, Persiaran Atmosfera and the rest of the connecting roads. Once the politicians remember to do their job, it will improve. The worst culprit for me is the junction in front of Alam Budiman, solve that intersection and it only takes 8 mins from my house to the entrance of DASH. On a good day, it takes 50 minutes to get to TRX, which is fine enough considering the distance. And I can still fall back and take MRT from Kwasa Damansara. So in a way, I am quite covered.

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If you work in KL city and 5 days in office

that is taking too much time to travel, exhausted

everyone is fair to have 24 hours a day, no one can guarantee future. Wasted portion of the time on travelling each day than spending them with your family, hobbies or even to yourself.

many says see subang, last time nobody want, puchong nobody want and now it has become like a prime place (example). history or the past never guarantee you future but what guarantee you is you will get old, how do you want to age yourself?

getting far just for landed and travel into city for work is insane. especially when you have a family, those arrangement, child care etc.. all for the landed house and yet not cheap too. 800k+
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QUOTE(Scirwode @ Apr 29 2025, 02:52 PM)
I am one of these people, live in Eco Grandeur but work in TRX. I was born and raised in TTDI and my parents still live there. People forget that when TTDI was first developed, it was on the edge of KL, with only one road connecting it to KL and monkeys frolicking all along that road in the dark of the night. That road is now the road towards Semantan towards Bukit Tunku (past Pusat Bandar Damansara). When my father bought his place in TTDI at an eye watering price of RM41,000 in the late 70's, all his friends laughed at him, saying why buy a place so far from them, encouraging him to come to Ampang or Cheras. Guess who is the last one laughing? The value of the house now is easily in the seven figures, of which he could sell if he wants to but chose to stay and enjoy his retirement.

I see the same thing happening in Eco Grandeur. Yes, it is far from KL but as far as quality of life is concern, it is actually very nice, allowing me to enjoy the scenery and the laid back nature of the area, similar to what was available in TTDI. TTDI now is too hip, too commercialise with hipster cafe's, restaurants and posh shops and what not, but Puncak Alam has its own charm. Yes, connectivity is bad right now but given that ECRL is being completed and possibility is high they might extend MRT to Puncak Alam from Kwasa Sentral, I am OK waiting it out a bit. And I will not be forever working in TRX, but my family are happy with the life here, and shops and amenities are a plenty around here. The nearby Elmina Mall also helps. People forget Bandar Utama, Damansara Perdana and Kota Damansara were Palm Oil plantations, the 1U new wing was an empty quarry and there was one small road connecting to Bandar Sri Damansara, but slowly connectivity will improve.

I see the same with Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari, Persiaran Atmosfera and the rest of the connecting roads. Once the politicians remember to do their job, it will improve. The worst culprit for me is the junction in front of Alam Budiman, solve that intersection and it only takes 8 mins from my house to the entrance of DASH. On a good day, it takes 50 minutes to get to TRX, which is fine enough considering the distance. And I can still fall back and take MRT from Kwasa Damansara. So in a way, I am quite covered.

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Neither right nor wrong. But during the 1970s, Malaysia is still rapidly growing and population growth is very positive. Basically anything is in its exponential growth phase.

Coming back to now 2020s, Malaysian population growth is pretty much stagnated, economy is also so-so only.

So it's best not to take your Eco Grandeur and thinking the property price will 10x. It's easier for RM41,000 to grow to RM410,000 than a RM800k-1mil house to even grow 50%. Which RM800k-1mil terrace houses are the norm nowadays.

As for developers, of course they will paint the development as the next "Desa Park", lush living etc. Once they hand over the property to you they will wash hands.

It's better buying Bitcoin than some unlimited supply of property.

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Apr 29 2025, 02:58 PM)
you drive from eco grandeur to trx everyday?
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On and off, sometimes drive, sometimes MRT. My wife who works in Petronas KLCC drives every day as my daughter goes to daycare there. Yes, there are jams, but it is the same everywhere. I say the jam near Saujana Putra is worse, especially near Putra Heights. But I like the area so it is a tradeoff. It is not for everyone, I will say that. But I have friends who live in Seremban who commute to KL, so it amounts to the same thing!

QUOTE(FinalHistory @ Apr 29 2025, 03:13 PM)
Why bought at Eco Grandeur and not Elmina?
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Oh, got special deal tongue.gif .

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QUOTE(Juggerballz @ Apr 29 2025, 04:24 PM)
Neither right nor wrong. But during the 1970s, Malaysia is still rapidly growing and population growth is very positive. Basically anything is in its exponential growth phase.

Coming back to now 2020s, Malaysian population growth is pretty much stagnated, economy is also so-so only.

So it's best not to take your Eco Grandeur and thinking the property price will 10x. It's easier for RM41,000 to grow to RM410,000 than a RM800k-1mil house to even grow 50%. Which RM800k-1mil terrace houses are the norm nowadays.

As for developers, of course they will paint the development as the next "Desa Park", lush living etc. Once they hand over the property to you they will wash hands.

It's better buying Bitcoin than some unlimited supply of property.
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Oh, I do agree with regards to the property price. I am lucky in a sense that I got my property at a steal when originally price was close to 7 figures whereas I pay a little more than 700k for mine. Again, it is not for everyone, so if you are happy with your property, good for you smile.gif .

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QUOTE(Scirwode @ Apr 29 2025, 04:56 PM)
On and off, sometimes drive, sometimes MRT. My wife who works in Petronas KLCC drives every day as my daughter goes to daycare there. Yes, there are jams, but it is the same everywhere. I say the jam near Saujana Putra is worse, especially near Putra Heights. But I like the area so it is a tradeoff. It is not for everyone, I will say that. But I have friends who live in Seremban who commute to KL, so it amounts to the same thing!
Oh, got special deal  tongue.gif .

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Semi D or Superlink? If Semi-D then worth it, but not Superlink
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Semi-D.

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Semi-D.

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 29 2025, 03:01 PM)
that is like 40km, 1 hour + journey, at this kind of punya traffic jam, it is really torturing mind and soul

I dont think things will get better , see setia alam, puchong enough lah
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More like 2 hrs+ driving

I got a friend staying at Semenyih and travel to KLCC, by 6am kena keluar, sampai office 8.00-8.15am, daily spent about 4-5 hrs inside car. After that ada MRT at Kajang it is much better for him, can nap inside the train.
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QUOTE(Scirwode @ Apr 29 2025, 04:59 PM)
Oh, I do agree with regards to the property price. I am lucky in a sense that I got my property at a steal when originally price was close to 7 figures whereas I pay a little more than 700k for mine. Again, it is not for everyone, so if you are happy with your property, good for you  smile.gif .

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How to get cheaper price?

Developer give discount because tak laku? Or previous owner desperate to jail?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 29 2025, 05:30 PM)
More like 2 hrs+ driving

I got a friend staying at Semenyih and travel to KLCC, by 6am kena keluar, sampai office 8.00-8.15am, daily spent about 4-5 hrs inside car. After that ada MRT at Kajang it is much better for him, can nap inside the train.
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dunno lah bro. that is some crazy shit I tell u.

somehow I think those Gamuda Gardens, Scientex at kundang jaya is a better bet than this place ( even though both are ulu place )

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 29 2025, 03:01 PM)
that is like 40km, 1 hour + journey, at this kind of punya traffic jam, it is really torturing mind and soul

I dont think things will get better , see setia alam, puchong enough lah
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But you get to show off you have a big empty house lo.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Apr 29 2025, 05:41 PM)
Buy big house, big garden, big park but wake up leave house all is dark - come back all is dark.

But you get to show off you have a big empty house lo.

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if my life’s mission is only to impress others, and I have to pay for it by trading away my own life, then… well ..........

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 29 2025, 05:30 PM)
More like 2 hrs+ driving

I got a friend staying at Semenyih and travel to KLCC, by 6am kena keluar, sampai office 8.00-8.15am, daily spent about 4-5 hrs inside car. After that ada MRT at Kajang it is much better for him, can nap inside the train.
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5 hours on daily driving
just kill me please if I'm not listening to some Joe Rogan podcast along the highways
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 29 2025, 05:38 PM)
dunno lah bro. that is some crazy shit I tell u.

somehow I think those Gamuda Gardens, Scientex at kundang jaya is a better bet than this place ( even though both are ulu place )
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Gamuda gardens also same lah, when township develop more and more, more cars are flooding in.

remember setia alam back in year 2008-2010? the resident there for first few phases so happy staying there initially, after few years when the international school buka and the toll and NKVE is freaking jam.

QUOTE(-mystery- @ Apr 29 2025, 05:59 PM)
5 hours on daily driving
just kill me please if I'm not listening to some Joe Rogan podcast along the highways
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2 hrs on the road daily i also mau mati liao.

Everyday 6am keluar, reach home 8pm, by 10pm kena tidur, only spent about 2 hrs at home for weekdays. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 29 2025, 06:41 PM)
Gamuda gardens also same lah, when township develop more and more, more cars are flooding in.

remember setia alam back in year 2008-2010? the resident there for first few phases so happy staying there initially, after few years when the international school buka and the toll and NKVE is freaking jam.
2 hrs on the road daily i also mau mati liao.

Everyday 6am keluar, reach home 8pm, by 10pm kena tidur, only spent about 2 hrs at home for weekdays.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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both place also I dont want to stay lah. so ulu then after several years stuck in jam for what?

I still remember those agents marketing setia alam props back then... got highway, only 30 mins to kl via highway... mana tau after several years now kana fk up like now

traffic now is really fk up to the max, I salute guys like u can driving so long. take care of your health buddy.

like me if i wanna go to kl/pj also I just take lrt, then after that take grab or just normal bus, easier that way.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 29 2025, 05:30 PM)
More like 2 hrs+ driving

I got a friend staying at Semenyih and travel to KLCC, by 6am kena keluar, sampai office 8.00-8.15am, daily spent about 4-5 hrs inside car. After that ada MRT at Kajang it is much better for him, can nap inside the train.
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done that b4 by driving, Semenyih - KLCC area, Megan Avenue. Also few months Semenyih - Publika area. if travel at 6am, no jam or very2 less jam, reach office at 7am, latest at 715am. But if travel at 630-640am, standy to reach my office area at 8am with jam start to pickup at Cheras area onwards to KL. But if travel at 7am, I end up reaching the office at 9-930am, depending on traffic.

For many months, taking the MRT Kajang - Megan Avenue, take the 715 or 719am MRT train, and reaching the Mamak Megan Avenue 1 at 830am almost consistently. Just that starting last year enjoying taking a bike to office, 730am from Semenyih and reach Megan at 820am

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If you compared newer township with affordable landed home, then Elmina is still the best option despite all the drawback.

What other option if you die die want a landed home below 1 mil that was built in last 5 years? Rawang, Puncak Alam, Semenyih, Puchong South, Uklu Klang? Elmina's location seems to be the most centralised among all
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 30 2025, 08:16 AM)
both place also I dont want to stay lah. so ulu then after several years stuck in jam for what?

I still remember those agents marketing setia alam props back then... got highway, only 30 mins to kl via highway... mana tau after several years now kana fk up like now

traffic now is really fk up to the max, I salute guys like u can driving so long. take care of your health buddy.

like me if i wanna go to kl/pj also I just take lrt, then after that take grab or just normal bus, easier that way.
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for retiree ok lah, for working adult big no no
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 30 2025, 10:02 AM)
If you compared newer township with affordable landed home, then Elmina is still the best option despite all the drawback.

What other option if you die die want a landed home below 1 mil that was built in last 5 years? Rawang, Puncak Alam, Semenyih, Puchong South, Uklu Klang? Elmina's location seems to be the most centralised among all
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gee, sounds like sales agent pitch to me bro
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 30 2025, 08:16 AM)
both place also I dont want to stay lah. so ulu then after several years stuck in jam for what?

I still remember those agents marketing setia alam props back then... got highway, only 30 mins to kl via highway... mana tau after several years now kana fk up like now

traffic now is really fk up to the max, I salute guys like u can driving so long. take care of your health buddy.

like me if i wanna go to kl/pj also I just take lrt, then after that take grab or just normal bus, easier that way.
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do u stay in setia alam bro
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QUOTE(Leto @ Apr 30 2025, 10:14 AM)
do u stay in setia alam bro
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putra heights, near ground zero

if u have any intention to buy any property in setia alam, just rent a room for a month first, then try the morning drive before u commit to anything

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 30 2025, 10:10 AM)
gee, sounds like sales agent pitch to me bro
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You are welcome to suggest another township, maybe Puchong South is also ok if your area of activity is more towards Cheras/SUbang Jaya instead of Shah Alam/PJ. There are people who die die want a landed home but can't afford prime location or renovation for subsale house, so they need to give up some convenience.


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Serenia is shit coming out to work in the morning and going back in the evening. i am at the opposite direction for both, even as early as 6.30am also jam already. how to live there?!
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 30 2025, 10:15 AM)
putra heights, near ground zero

if u have any intention to buy any property in setia alam, just rent a room for a month first, then try the morning drive before u commit to anything
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i rather stay mont kiara / bangsar south than stay putra heights
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QUOTE(Leto @ Apr 30 2025, 11:34 AM)
i rather stay mont kiara / bangsar south than stay putra heights
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lulz . if u can afford to buy landed there, why not?

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then y u ask about setia alam?

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 30 2025, 11:38 AM)
lulz . if u can afford to buy landed there, why not?

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then y u ask about setia alam?
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Stay close to the city = House expensive price sqf
Stay far from the city = Stuck in the traffic congestion going/back work
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QUOTE(Leto @ Apr 30 2025, 12:55 PM)
i rather stay in a 1m condo in mont kiara
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both have diff pro and cons but I am sure you dont understand it yet

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 27 2025, 06:09 PM)
thing is, why PH PKR Selangor govt keep on approving new development projects
in bukan salahan BN tau

PKR has been reigning Selangor since 2008

mana feasibility study, and like what the article suggested, traffic feasibility studies?
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 30 2025, 10:15 AM)
putra heights, near ground zero

if u have any intention to buy any property in setia alam, just rent a room for a month first, then try the morning drive before u commit to anything
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Try exit toll from Setia Alam to Subang around 7.00-8.00 am weekdays and enjoy the suffer brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(xpole @ May 1 2025, 07:31 AM)
Try exit toll from Setia Alam to Subang around 7.00-8.00 am weekdays and enjoy the suffer brows.gif brows.gif
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that day i terdrive there to exit klang .. knn evening jam like really f man.

really gg that place
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i am surprised many still doubts the article even though its the truth. power of sales rep sugar coatings and fake social media promotions

alot of people are defensive and protective of this situation claiming that it's "normal" to have congestion. but people do not understand that elmina is basically middle of nowhere, majority of the time you really do need to travel out to get things done

it isn't like in PJ or in KL whereby even though there is congestion, you do not really need to travel that far to get things done.

i think the biggest unfortunate thing about elmina is alot of the buyers are defensive and protective about the negative image, hence trying to sugar coat the situation which is not going to improve the place any better. the developers didn't even need to do any rectification because their buyers are promoting the place itself (due to concern of devalue). end up their products still sell off like hotcakes

potential buyers really need to experience the situation themselves, those positive sugar coated comments on social media is far from the truth
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QUOTE(milipem @ May 4 2025, 01:53 PM)
i am surprised many still doubts the article even though its the truth. power of sales rep sugar coatings and fake social media promotions

alot of people are defensive and protective of this situation claiming that it's "normal" to have congestion. but people do not understand that elmina is basically middle of nowhere, majority of the time you really do need to travel out to get things done

it isn't like in PJ or in KL whereby even though there is congestion, you do not really need to travel that far to get things done.

i think the biggest unfortunate thing about elmina is alot of the buyers are defensive and protective about the negative image, hence trying to sugar coat the situation which is not going to improve the place any better. the developers didn't even need to do any rectification because their buyers are promoting the place itself (due to concern of devalue). end up their products still sell off like hotcakes

potential buyers really need to experience the situation themselves, those positive sugar coated comments on social media is far from the truth
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what else can they do hahaha

they already enslaved 35 years for the property

they need to deceive themselves to make themselves feel better

 

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