Public Mutual to launch Public China Ittikal Fund, Promotional period from 20NOV-10DEC
Public Mutual to launch Public China Ittikal Fund, Promotional period from 20NOV-10DEC
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Nov 10 2007, 10:44 PM
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5,614 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Cyberjaya, Shah Alam, Ipoh |
China market is growing BIG! couple with the strong historic performance of Public Mutual, and the consistent return from Msia Ittikal fund, this one might be among the biggest potential fund yet to be launched!
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Nov 10 2007, 10:55 PM
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All Stars
52,874 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
Even though PITTIKIAL is a marvellous fund in ITTIKIAL series, doesn't mean that this China Shahriah fund will share the same success story.
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Nov 10 2007, 11:07 PM
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5,614 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Cyberjaya, Shah Alam, Ipoh |
hehehe just my enthusiasm bout the two big potential ler brader hahaha. Anyway wut do you guys think, china market will go thru some 'readjustment' early next year or after olympic is over?
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Nov 10 2007, 11:16 PM
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374 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Peninsular Malaysia |
QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 10 2007, 11:07 PM) hehehe just my enthusiasm bout the two big potential ler brader hahaha. Anyway wut do you guys think, china market will go thru some 'readjustment' early next year or after olympic is over? if a person is looking at long term invest 5-10yrs, i think China is a very very market to invest in especially when ur money if managed by professionals. but if u wanna speculate 1-2yrs and cant really take heavy losses, then better stay away from this gold mountain lo. |
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Nov 10 2007, 11:20 PM
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5,614 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Cyberjaya, Shah Alam, Ipoh |
yeah. If investor can take the risk of fluctuating index or temporary downturn and hold on to their investment 4-5 years time they'll eventually be rewarded by very big returns for their discipline and preserverance
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Nov 11 2007, 01:09 AM
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5,626 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Klang, Selangor |
QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 10 2007, 01:01 PM) It relies too much on China equities, so the investment is very concentrated and focused.I prefer an investment in a variety of markets, so the fund managers can adjust their portfolio accordingly. QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 10 2007, 10:44 PM) China market is growing BIG! couple with the strong historic performance of Public Mutual, and the consistent return from Msia Ittikal fund, this one might be among the biggest potential fund yet to be launched! Correction. I believe China market has grown too big for its size.We cannot just say it will be one of the best funds, just because of PCSF. You must remember, past performance is not an indication of future performance. Times change, and tides change |
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Nov 11 2007, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Nov 11 2007, 01:09 AM) It relies too much on China equities, so the investment is very concentrated and focused. It's focus is on Greater China (China, Taiwan, HK). But the money will go anywhere that has China related firms, this includes US, Europe, HK, Taiwan & Singapore.I prefer an investment in a variety of markets, so the fund managers can adjust their portfolio accordingly. ----- Correction. I believe China market has grown too big for its size. We cannot just say it will be one of the best funds, just because of PCSF. You must remember, past performance is not an indication of future performance. Times change, and tides change As long as the main company is China based, it will invest in it regardless of the location of its listing. I think past performance is a good indication of future performance. Surely, they must be doing something right if the funds are doing well all along. On a side note, the size of the fund is comparitively small. Which means it may be easier to achieve record profits compared to large funds. OF course, it is just my opinion. We'll still have to see it's performance when the time comes. |
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Nov 11 2007, 09:50 PM
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5,626 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Klang, Selangor |
QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Nov 11 2007, 01:52 PM) It's focus is on Greater China (China, Taiwan, HK). But the money will go anywhere that has China related firms, this includes US, Europe, HK, Taiwan & Singapore. Sorry to differ from your opinion.As long as the main company is China based, it will invest in it regardless of the location of its listing. I think past performance is a good indication of future performance. Surely, they must be doing something right if the funds are doing well all along. On a side note, the size of the fund is comparitively small. Which means it may be easier to achieve record profits compared to large funds. OF course, it is just my opinion. We'll still have to see it's performance when the time comes. By looking at your reply, I am quite sure that you know very little in unit trust. Sure, you could look at the past performance for a rough idea of the funds, but does it mean that the future of the markets will be as good as the past? Can you be sure that the performance in 2005-2007 to repeat itself? Most of the markets are just below their respective highs, so how much more can the market go? On the matter of fund size, the more units being offered, the more fund managers can diversify the portfolio. If you have just a small number of equity, how can you ride the wave? As an example, with the price of CPO climbing higher now, is it wiser to have a larger oil palm estate, or a smaller oil palm estate? Sorry again, but I think you need to do more research before stating it here. If you ask anyone here, I don't think many will agree with you Regards |
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Nov 11 2007, 10:37 PM
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52,874 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
So when this fund will be launched? Anybody will be going for it?
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Nov 11 2007, 11:08 PM
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5,626 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Klang, Selangor |
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Nov 11 2007, 11:08 PM
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Nov 11 2007, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Nov 11 2007, 09:50 PM) Sorry to differ from your opinion. past performance is not an indication of future returns, but it definitely serves as a reference as in how gd the fund managers are at managing that particular kind of fund of that particular market. as least i think so, hence i always take past performance as a guideline before i start investing in existing funds. By looking at your reply, I am quite sure that you know very little in unit trust. Sure, you could look at the past performance for a rough idea of the funds, but does it mean that the future of the markets will be as good as the past? Can you be sure that the performance in 2005-2007 to repeat itself? Most of the markets are just below their respective highs, so how much more can the market go? On the matter of fund size, the more units being offered, the more fund managers can diversify the portfolio. If you have just a small number of equity, how can you ride the wave? As an example, with the price of CPO climbing higher now, is it wiser to have a larger oil palm estate, or a smaller oil palm estate? Sorry again, but I think you need to do more research before stating it here. If you ask anyone here, I don't think many will agree with you Regards and for me, i will not make the call of whether or not the current market is at its high as i, myself initially thought that china is already at its peak, but walla, after 3mths my PCSF gained more than 25%. bigger fund size = can do more things, so everyday i pray more ppl invest in the current funds im holding, for one, it shows ppl have confidence in the fund i invested in, two, fund manager got more money to do what they want to do. QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 11 2007, 10:37 PM) seems like end of NOV is not mistaken. personally, im still considering of whether PCSF better or buy the new fund better, somemore got china pacific fund. 3 way junction, where to head to? |
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Nov 11 2007, 11:24 PM
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Nov 11 2007, 11:31 PM
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5,626 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Klang, Selangor |
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Nov 12 2007, 05:47 PM
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is it good to invest to incoming This new fund? |
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Nov 12 2007, 06:11 PM
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market dropped today,if continue 2morrow
not sure if want to invest in this fund or go pick up some dividend stocks |
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Nov 12 2007, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(Crossbone @ Nov 12 2007, 06:11 PM) market dropped today,if continue 2morrow You still got time to consider. Let's say it's really launched on 20 November and upon launching, it's still got 21 more days before the real trading engine starts.not sure if want to invest in this fund or go pick up some dividend stocks Otherwise, if you can't wait anymore, you may opt for PCSF since its NAV is relatively low at this point of time. This post has been edited by David83: Nov 12 2007, 08:44 PM |
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Nov 12 2007, 09:12 PM
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3,403 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Damansara<-->AnField |
Anyway, is there a way to track the price of the NAV ?
The PM website only show the price for 'today' date. It will be useful if we can track the NAV price up to 3 months, 6 months .. for example. |
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Nov 12 2007, 09:18 PM
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I suspect the fund is gonna reach its size within the first 3 days itself. Fund size of 375 million is not a lot.
Market is in correction now. This new fund may be able to take this opportunity to enter cheap into the markets. *disclaimer: this is just one man's opinion. |
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Nov 12 2007, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Nov 12 2007, 09:18 PM) I suspect the fund is gonna reach its size within the first 3 days itself. Fund size of 375 million is not a lot. They could apply for fund size increase like what they did on PCSF.Market is in correction now. This new fund may be able to take this opportunity to enter cheap into the markets. *disclaimer: this is just one man's opinion. |
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