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 Public Mutual to launch Public China Ittikal Fund, Promotional period from 20NOV-10DEC

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SUSDavid83
post Nov 9 2007, 05:18 PM

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It is a China Shahriah fund that has been discussed before.
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post Nov 10 2007, 03:07 AM

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PITTIKIAL is impressive fund. However, PAIF isn't that great.

I think this China Ittikial fund will be a risky fund. Maybe its risk might be lower as compared to PCSF.

Should I consider this? hmm.gif
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post Nov 10 2007, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Nov 10 2007, 07:00 AM)
sounds interesting... by the way, UTs are gaining popularity... i wonder why?

also, how much are UT's making on average per annum?
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One of the reason might be due to government's promotion through PNM and UT products.
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post Nov 10 2007, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Nov 10 2007, 12:21 PM)
Yes, it will definitely be a big hit, but with such a small size, it will be full very soon and most probably the fund manager is going to close it.
China market is very volatile now, and it is not wise to move into a market that has been moving upwards the last 2 years. I am not going into this fund because it is too concentrated.
I prefer an exposure on China markets, but not concentrated.
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Can you elobrate more on the "too concentrated"? Thank you.
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post Nov 10 2007, 04:45 PM

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By the way, did they really increase the fund size for PCSF from the initial launching size?
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post Nov 10 2007, 10:55 PM

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Even though PITTIKIAL is a marvellous fund in ITTIKIAL series, doesn't mean that this China Shahriah fund will share the same success story.
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post Nov 11 2007, 10:37 PM

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So when this fund will be launched? Anybody will be going for it?
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post Nov 11 2007, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Nov 11 2007, 11:08 PM)
China Ittikal fund will be launched on 20th November 2007.
The prospectus will be available after 16th November 2007.
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How about the other two sector funds?
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post Nov 11 2007, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(beginner @ Nov 11 2007, 11:12 PM)
seems like end of NOV is not mistaken. personally, im still considering of whether PCSF better or buy the new fund better, somemore got china pacific fund. 3 way junction, where to head to?
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It's actually two since the China Pacific Fund is a PB series fund.
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post Nov 12 2007, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(Crossbone @ Nov 12 2007, 06:11 PM)
market dropped today,if continue 2morrow
not sure if want to invest in this fund or go pick up some dividend stocks
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You still got time to consider. Let's say it's really launched on 20 November and upon launching, it's still got 21 more days before the real trading engine starts.

Otherwise, if you can't wait anymore, you may opt for PCSF since its NAV is relatively low at this point of time.

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post Nov 12 2007, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Nov 12 2007, 09:18 PM)
I suspect the fund is gonna reach its size within the first 3 days itself. Fund size of 375 million is not a lot.

Market is in correction now. This new fund may be able to take this opportunity to enter cheap into the markets.

*disclaimer: this is just one man's opinion.
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They could apply for fund size increase like what they did on PCSF.
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post Nov 13 2007, 06:03 AM

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QUOTE(WinDs @ Nov 13 2007, 01:10 AM)
IC, Jordy. Thanks for the information.  biggrin.gif

In that way, it could be quite risky. Well, if the stock market is hit hard, once the stock price fall from RM10 to RM1 for example .. you could imagine what will happen to your NAV values.

Anyway, I have yet to see a rapid changes in the NAV values. Therefore, I might miss out something. Isn't it?
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It depends on the fund portfolio. I think PCSF has a greater NAV change due to volatility behaviour of China market.
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Nov 13 2007, 08:10 PM)
er market correction now doesn't mean you will enter cheap as the fund would only start trading next month doh.gif
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Guess that entering PCSF now would be a better option since its NAV is nearly touching its initial NAV.

PCSF NAV used to drop below its inital NAV once two to three months ago.

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post Nov 15 2007, 10:06 AM

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I do agree on the instability of PCSF. It may be directly related to the volatility of China market. PCIF would experience the same since both are investing heavily at that region.
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post Nov 16 2007, 05:56 AM

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This showed how volatile the China market is. Funds like PCSF that concentrate most of its portfolio are tracking closely to the market indices performance and no doubt that PCIF would share the same behaviour. China related funds are aggressive fund and I don't plan to keep them long - mostly right after Olympics ended for few days.
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post Nov 18 2007, 12:26 PM

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So beginner, are you going for this fund?
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post Nov 20 2007, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(cdbox @ Nov 20 2007, 04:52 AM)

Added on November 20, 2007, 4:59 am

Advice to take note of 1 Public funds in REIT.

Seems all china funds launched have not much different with their portfolio.

However I do suggest only 1 china fund recently launched P xxx property fund >> REIT. I have pretty good impression to this fund , and already invested RM35K, manually top up min RM300 occasionally once this fund price is low.

notworthy.gif  See if i have return 24% in 24 months.....
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Which REIT are you referring to? PFEPRF or what?
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post Nov 20 2007, 10:46 AM

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Official prospectus is out at PM website:

Public Mutual Launches Its First China Islamic Fund

Public Bank's wholly-owned subsidiary, Public Mutual launches its first China Islamic fund, Public China Ittikal Fund today (Tuesday). Public China Ittikal Fund (PCIF) will invest in the Greater China region which offers promising opportunities for medium- to long-term investors.

Public Mutual's Chairman Tan Sri Dato's Sri Dr. Teh Hong Piow said PCIF will capitalise on the solid growth prospects in Greater China. In the past five years, equity markets in this region have enjoyed a sustained uptrend amidst the rebound in global economies and strong investor demand to participate in the growth prospects of the Greater China region. "China has emerged as a major growth engine for this region apart from the U.S with real Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth sustained at a robust pace averaging 9.2% annually," he added.

Tan Sri Teh continues to say that PCIF is designed to capture the vast opportunities of Greater China.

"The region which encompasses China, Hong Kong and Taiwan presents significant growth opportunities. The Chinese economy is projected to grow steadily at 11.2% for 2007 and 10.6% for 2008, supported by resilient domestic consumption, investment and exports. Driven by strong domestic demand and robust tourist arrivals, Hong Kong's GDP growth is set to expand at above 5% for 2007/2008. Meanwhile, GDP growth for Taiwan is projected at above 4% for 2007/2008 amidst resilient investment spending and global demand for electronic products," he said.

PCIF is an Islamic equity fund that seeks to achieve capital growth over the medium- to long-term period by investing in a portfolio of Shariah-compliant investments in the Greater China region and the balance in the domestic market. The fund will invest a minimum of 70% of its net asset value (NAV) in the Greater China region namely in China, Hong Kong and Taiwan stocks. The equity exposure of PCIF will generally range from 75% to 90% of its NAV.

Tan Sri Teh added that PCIF is suitable for aggressive investors who can withstand extended periods of market highs and lows to achieve medium- to long-term capital growth for their investments.

The issue price / NAV of PCIF is at RM0.2500 per unit during the 21-day initial offer period of 20 November 2007 to 10 December 2007. During the offer period, a special promotional service charge of 5.45% of NAV per unit is extended to the purchase of units of PCIF by investors. Investors who opt for Direct Debit Instruction with PCIF during the offer period will also enjoy the special promotional service charge of 5.45% of NAV per unit for as long as the Direct Debit is active. Terms and conditions apply. The minimum initial investment for the fund is RM1,000 and the minimum additional investment is RM100.

PCIF is distributed by Public Mutual's unit trust consultants. Interested investors can contact any Public Mutual unit trust consultant or call its Customer Service Hotline at 03-6279 5252 for more details of the fund.

Public Mutual is the largest private unit trust company in Malaysia and it currently manages 53 funds for more than 1,350,000 accountholders. As at 31 October 2007, the total net asset value of the funds managed by the company was RM26.7 billion.

URL: http://www.publicmutual.com.my/article.aspx?id=6382
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post Nov 20 2007, 06:45 PM

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An accompanying article from PM for promoting PAIF:

Growth in the Greater Midlle Kingdom
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/page.aspx?n...art_gitgmk_pg01
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post Nov 20 2007, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(stupidbump @ Nov 20 2007, 08:10 PM)
But with China hosting the olympics next year, will the China Bubble burst after that and PCIF get stunt?
I think the risk is quite high for this fund.
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Well, it's up to you to keep on holding PCIF after Olympics 2008. PM rated this fund as Aggressive while PCSF as High Risk.

PCIF - Aggressive
To achieve capital growth over the medium to long-term period by investing in a portfolio of Shariah-compliant investments in the greater China region and the balance in the domestic market.

- A minimum of 70% of the fund's net asset value (NAV) will be invested in the greater China region, namely Hong Kong, China and Taiwan markets.
- The fund can also invest in China-based companies listed on overseas markets such as Singapore, the United States of America and other approved markets.

PCSF - High Risk
To achieve capital growth over the medium to long-term period by investing in a portfolio of investments in the greater China region namely in Hong Kong, China and Taiwan markets and including China based companies listed on overseas markets. The fund may also invest in companies listed on Bursa Securities and other foreign markets which have significant or potentially significant business operations in the greater China region

This post has been edited by David83: Nov 20 2007, 09:12 PM

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