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Intel Arc B580 12GB
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Dec 31 2024, 09:57 AM
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or this, which is more relevant: Intel Arc B580 : Test in 25 Games at 1080p
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Dec 31 2024, 10:00 AM
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Refer to Asrock Intel B580 Link, seems they have it in store. Perhaps you may contact the local distributor as follows :
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Dec 31 2024, 10:51 AM
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Why no use windows built in recorder? I know quality is blur, but can record overlay MSI stat
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Dec 31 2024, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(alepfx @ Dec 31 2024, 10:00 AM) Refer to Asrock Intel B580 Link, seems they have it in store. Perhaps you may contact the local distributor as follows : Is their walk in price cheaper than say Low Yat Plaza or Shopee ??![]() |
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Dec 31 2024, 07:47 PM
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Dec 31 2024, 07:51 PM
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Dec 31 2024, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Dec 20 2024, 06:19 PM) Take it easy, there is still B570 that performs on par with RTX4060 and should be much better in 0.1% lows. 150W if you care. Well,, rasa bosan laa loll,, B570 lower power consumption but also, 10gb, lesser cores. priced? performnce same or slight better or wrse or mixed?stability? have to think. Feels less attrctive. If b580 is released at price bracket like 4060, then i'm really sold. Will finally upgrade. Cause, while watching recent reviews, i saw the power consumptions were only slightly(10-20watt) more then 4060. But i'm in no way gonna buy the card simply cause 12gb. That's just basic generational leap that should been there anyway. Just cause Nvidia tried to make vram a premium thing, now Intel looks too good. But till now, Shopee tkde. I fear, just like other Intel products(A7 series, ssd, OPtane memory), it gonna be barely available and prices just meehh. Let's not get hopes high. This post has been edited by hdbjhn2: Dec 31 2024, 08:19 PM |
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Dec 31 2024, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(yiidonger @ Dec 20 2024, 05:47 PM) Read la brader, that's exactly what i was saying. Don't buta2 follow reviews. U think reviews always cover a product good engh?I owned products where in reality there were catches, things that really mattered, but no reviews covered it or touched it. But when i google it, randomly there will be people with same problem on forums, whch nowdays harder to find cause google search mechanism only shows automated webpages that only buta2 promotes the specs. Mybe i haven't watch all reviews, i admit, but,, try to take it pinch of salt. Reviewers seems to try pushing it a lot, cause, they also need to cari makan ma. Relax, we are consumers, no wrong in questioning, we are not supporters of any cause. This post has been edited by hdbjhn2: Dec 31 2024, 08:25 PM |
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Jan 1 2025, 01:48 AM
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Hopefully in a few days most of the shops bring in a few ARC B580s so I can start buying it.
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Jan 1 2025, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(hdbjhn2 @ Dec 31 2024, 08:23 PM) Read la brader, that's exactly what i was saying. Don't buta2 follow reviews. U think reviews always cover a product good engh? Exactly bro, but some folks are too caught up with the hype and being influenced by youtubers & influencers that they only spout all the good things but ignore all the bad things bcoz its not their money they try to convince people to part for Intel GPU. If these people actually spend their money to use Arc as their daily driver GPU for gaming & all use and not complain and secretly go back to Nvidia/AMD, then Im convinced lar.I owned products where in reality there were catches, things that really mattered, but no reviews covered it or touched it. But when i google it, randomly there will be people with same problem on forums, whch nowdays harder to find cause google search mechanism only shows automated webpages that only buta2 promotes the specs. Mybe i haven't watch all reviews, i admit, but,, try to take it pinch of salt. Reviewers seems to try pushing it a lot, cause, they also need to cari makan ma. Relax, we are consumers, no wrong in questioning, we are not supporters of any cause. hdbjhn2 liked this post
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Jan 1 2025, 02:56 PM
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Jan 1 2025, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(hdbjhn2 @ Dec 31 2024, 08:23 PM) Read la brader, that's exactly what i was saying. Don't buta2 follow reviews. U think reviews always cover a product good engh? But this round. Reviews are genuine. USD 250 for B580 12GB with more performance, 270 for RX 7600 8GB and 300 for RTX 4060 8GB. Unless you like to pay more for less, and SOMETIMES STUTTER ON GAMES THAT WANTS MORE THAN 8GB! or POOR LOOKING GAME DUE TO OUT OF VRAM! Intel drivers improved a lot comparing to gen 1 launch as well.I owned products where in reality there were catches, things that really mattered, but no reviews covered it or touched it. But when i google it, randomly there will be people with same problem on forums, whch nowdays harder to find cause google search mechanism only shows automated webpages that only buta2 promotes the specs. Mybe i haven't watch all reviews, i admit, but,, try to take it pinch of salt. Reviewers seems to try pushing it a lot, cause, they also need to cari makan ma. Relax, we are consumers, no wrong in questioning, we are not supporters of any cause. This post has been edited by TristanX: Jan 1 2025, 04:26 PM |
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Jan 1 2025, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 1 2025, 04:24 PM) But this round. Reviews are genuine. USD 250 for B580 12GB with more performance, 270 for RX 7600 8GB and 300 for RTX 4060 8GB. Unless you like to pay more for less, and SOMETIMES STUTTER ON GAMES THAT WANTS MORE THAN 8GB! or POOR LOOKING GAME DUE TO OUT OF VRAM! Intel drivers improved a lot comparing to gen 1 launch as well. Right. Its the same shill we heard about AMD 6000series & 7000series, yet the market speaks differently. Lets see how this round will turn out. |
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 1 2025, 04:24 PM) But this round. Reviews are genuine. USD 250 for B580 12GB with more performance, 270 for RX 7600 8GB and 300 for RTX 4060 8GB. Unless you like to pay more for less, and SOMETIMES STUTTER ON GAMES THAT WANTS MORE THAN 8GB! or POOR LOOKING GAME DUE TO OUT OF VRAM! Intel drivers improved a lot comparing to gen 1 launch as well. Of course those reviews are genuine especially Hardware Unboxed and GamerNexus, basically the rating for ARC B580 is overwhelming positive from simply every reviewer and you don't see that kind of response happen on RX 7600 / RTX 4060 / Intel 1st gen but hater gonna hate so why bother to explain ?? By the way don't expect ARC B580 capable to beat RTX 4060 in just every aspect, win some lose some actually but for a 2nd gen gpu and considering the price & VRAM capacity it's basically a no brainer and so far I see no one complain about driver issue yet. So all is looking very good about this GPU. This post has been edited by bluecat68: Jan 2 2025, 03:11 AM |
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Jan 3 2025, 06:27 PM
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Fresh uploaded ARC B580 video from Hardware Unboxed and it's a bad news for entry level gamer who still using low budget CPU like Ryzen 5 2600, such issue happened on Geforce GPU too and at this very moment not sure if it can be fix by driver update or not, will have to wait and see what Intel going to say or do about it.
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The original finding was here
I will repeat this as expected... its the software stack. For older & new lower end budget builders (ironically the segment that B580 is targeting) its advisable to wait until Intel gets it right. But it may never happen too (Nvidia never resolve their driver higher overhead issues but it was never this bad either). Lets see how the fanbois try to deny this This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jan 4 2025, 09:06 AM |
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Jan 4 2025, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(bluecat68 @ Jan 3 2025, 06:27 PM) Fresh uploaded ARC B580 video from Hardware Unboxed and it's a bad news for entry level gamer who still using low budget CPU like Ryzen 5 2600, such issue happened on Geforce GPU too and at this very moment not sure if it can be fix by driver update or not, will have to wait and see what Intel going to say or do about it. I got a feeling resizeable bar not working properly. It was not intended for CPUs that old (no resizeable bar [or AMD SAM] until Ryzen 5000 + Radeon 6000 launch).Have a look. System requirements: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/sup...ics-family.html From the box: ![]() https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-ar...-preview/3.html This post has been edited by TristanX: Jan 4 2025, 02:40 PM Tsuki91 liked this post
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 4 2025, 10:42 AM) I got a feeling resizeable bar not working properly. It was not intended for CPUs that old (no resizeable bar [or AMD SAM] until Ryzen 5000 + Radeon 6000 launch). Hardware Canucks (the discoverer of this bug) tested with 9600K & Z390 with Rebar ON & OFF both settings had this issue so its nothing to do with Rebar. Go watch their video.System requirements: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/sup...ics-family.html From the box: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-ar...-preview/3.html This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jan 4 2025, 05:11 PM |
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Jan 4 2025, 09:11 PM
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Zen+ is too slow for games nowadays anyway. Rebar support is unknown since the official word from AMD is 3000 series and above. Given how cheap Zen 3 these days, user could just get a 5600 (or 5500) as a drop in replacement. This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Jan 4 2025, 09:13 PM |
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