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post Dec 28 2024, 12:45 PM

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All I can say is after my warnings, if buyers still insist to get Battlemage whichever tier later, please do share your experience and if any workarounds on bugs and fixes.
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post Dec 29 2024, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 28 2024, 12:45 PM)
All I can say is after my warnings, if buyers still insist to get Battlemage whichever tier later, please do share your experience and if any workarounds on bugs and fixes.
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Intel ARC B580 is highly praised by EVERY GPU tech reviewer and is now the only GPU they recommended for 1080p gaming & I can't find any video talking about any bug using the ARC B580 so what the heck are you talking about ??

I say only moron will still go RTX 4060 or RX 7600 over ARC B580 consider their relatively price vs performance plus the 12GB VRAM.
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post Dec 29 2024, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(bluecat68 @ Dec 29 2024, 07:24 PM)
Intel ARC B580 is highly praised by EVERY GPU tech reviewer and is now the only GPU they recommended for 1080p gaming & I can't find any video talking about any bug using the ARC B580 so what the heck are you talking about ??

I say only moron will still go RTX 4060 or RX 7600 over ARC B580 consider their relatively price vs performance plus the 12GB VRAM.
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Make yourself more knowledgeable before you show your foolishness

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https://www.techspot.com/review/2935-intel-arc-b580/

Massively popular AAA games that was release months ago shouldnt have been facing playing issues on Day 1, never heard of nvidia or AMD could fail this bad. Casual gamers would rather not deal with bugs and just play. Whats the point of having a Mustang vs a Kancil when that Mustang keeps breaking down? It has to work without fuss firstly. If it cannot take you from point A to B whats the point of being technically faster?

See the caveat why its highly praised, they all want Intel to succeed and give competition but have you ever ask yourself if it was so gooddamn good why isnt it their new daily driver card hmm? Bcoz at the end of the day they still stick with Nvidia. LOL!
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 29 2024, 08:31 PM)
Make yourself more knowledgeable before you show your foolishness

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https://www.techspot.com/review/2935-intel-arc-b580/

Massively popular AAA games that was release months ago shouldnt have been facing playing issues on Day 1, never heard of nvidia or AMD could fail this bad. Casual gamers would rather not deal with bugs and just play. Whats the point of having a Mustang vs a Kancil when that Mustang keeps breaking down? It has to work without fuss firstly. If it cannot take you from point A to B whats the point of being technically faster?

See the caveat why its highly praised, they all want Intel to succeed and give competition but have you ever ask yourself if it was so gooddamn good why isnt it their new daily driver card hmm? Bcoz at the end of the day they still stick with Nvidia. LOL!
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You keep talking about ARC B580 bugs on gaming so pls show me at least one link where the reviewer mention about ARC B580 bug ?? Show me.

By the way Nvidia still own the market is because their superior performance on CUDA related productivity and AI performance which AMD & Intel can't match at this very moment but I like to remind you that we are simply comparing 1080p gaming because looks like some moron actually very much losing the point here and ARC B580 is the way to go. At the moment you are the only genius on the planet who disagree to this. Good job.

By the way while the stock ARC B580 already beat RTX 4060 & RX 7600 in most scenarios it actually can be overclock for another 10-20% performance gain according to reviewers but obviously some blind and clueless moron didn't realize or choose to ignore that.

"its highly praised simply because they all want Intel to succeed and give competition" ?? WTF ?? I wonder why not they do the same to RTX 4060 or RX 7600 err ??

Again, show me any link mention about ARC B580 bug or you better just stfu if you can't & i won't reply again without any link. It's pointless, you are just a waste of time. You hv no hacking idea what you talking about. Go buy RTX 4060 or RX 7600 as much as you like. I rather to be a fool and enjoy the ARC B580.








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post Dec 29 2024, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 29 2024, 08:31 PM)
Make yourself more knowledgeable before you show your foolishness

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https://www.techspot.com/review/2935-intel-arc-b580/

Massively popular AAA games that was release months ago shouldnt have been facing playing issues on Day 1, never heard of nvidia or AMD could fail this bad. Casual gamers would rather not deal with bugs and just play. Whats the point of having a Mustang vs a Kancil when that Mustang keeps breaking down? It has to work without fuss firstly. If it cannot take you from point A to B whats the point of being technically faster?

See the caveat why its highly praised, they all want Intel to succeed and give competition but have you ever ask yourself if it was so gooddamn good why isnt it their new daily driver card hmm? Bcoz at the end of the day they still stick with Nvidia. LOL!
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Something to mention before I forgot about the review link that you share, that's a first day review but already score 90 point with the title "Best Value GPU" not "Best Value GPU?? "and the comments are very positive so what's the argument here really ?? Are you trying to make yourself a joke or what ??

Now already 2 weeks past and where is the bug review ?? I just can't find not even one. Help me pls.
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post Dec 29 2024, 09:41 PM

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RDR also has a driver issue

Timeskip to 17.10

Intel Arc having Day1 driver issues with even mainstream games is a big killer, whatmore for obscure or even indie games. Like has anyone tried Arc on Genshin? Or Honkai Star Rail?

And whether some fool wants to accept the truth or not its their problem. Budget gamers who dont have much money only has 1 option from either Nvidia, AMD or Intel, so making the most wise & safest choice coz to get another GPU will be a costly mistake.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 29 2024, 09:41 PM)
RDR also has a driver issue

Timeskip to 17.10

Intel Arc having Day1 driver issues with even mainstream games is a big killer, whatmore for obscure or even indie games. Like has anyone tried Arc on Genshin? Or Honkai Star Rail?

And whether some fool wants to accept the truth or not its their problem. Budget gamers who dont have much money only has 1 option from either Nvidia, AMD or Intel, so making the most wise & safest choice coz to get another GPU will be a costly mistake.
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16:56 Pretty good all around for this what I'm going to call the new mainstream king (I think he mean 1080p or some 1440p but definitely not 4K)

17:03 No explicitly obvious driver issues during today's tests in those older games either (meaning no issue at all with newer games except RDR2 but that's just one game)

17:41 Yeah the ARC B580 really good card I've really enjoy my time with it so far

Again that's only the 1st day review with over 1K very positive comments and no doubt the card performance will get better & better just like their 1st gen so what's your problem exactly ??

Sorry I can't help to reply on this but I think that's really enough. No point to keep arguing something in case like this in the first place. Have a good night.
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post Dec 29 2024, 11:44 PM

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Intel Arc B580 may last another generation too. RTX 5060 looks like a fail. Only waiting for AMD now and see whats in store from them.
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Reviewers everywhere also rated 9800x3d very highly too, but in reality its only that high in gaming. Otherwise its dogshit for workflow usage and general purpose (high idle power use vs Intel).

Some people are taken by influencers, I geddit, their waterfishes.

But people should make their own decisions after having all the facts and not just easily listen to others. I not say BMG is bad but it needs a lot more work to make it good for users, and nobody can predict the future how it will turn out.

And if Intel fanbois wanna show their fanboyism here well the internet is free no?
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post Dec 30 2024, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 29 2024, 11:44 PM)
Intel Arc B580 may last another generation too. RTX 5060 looks like a fail. Only waiting for AMD now and see whats in store from them.
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xx60 family kinda fail since 4060 but since nvidia focus more on higher end its not like they care. Less lower tier GPU sales meant more silicon allo for their AI processor which has skyhigh margin over lower GPU segments.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 29 2024, 11:44 PM)
Intel Arc B580 may last another generation too. RTX 5060 looks like a fail. Only waiting for AMD now and see whats in store from them.
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Nvidia share go sky high after developing AI and it's easy to understand that they already give all in on that consider gaming market never bring them this kind of profit so Nvidia GPU is not primarily design & market for gaming anymore as targeting AI tech and productivity related customer and enterprise make them even more money so average budget gamer can forget about Nvidia until AMD or Intel finally catch up.

By the way, you don't need a USD 1000 - 2000 GPU to play any game, it's good if you can afford it otherwise just grab whatever you can and live with it.
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RTX5060's specs is basically near-identical with the RTX4060, only difference is GDDR7 VRAM. In the words of Steve of GamersNexus; "it's a waste of sand". With rumored launch around March 2025, price wise (in USD) might be at $350, which is gonna be like RM1600 after all the tax, conversions etc taken into account. Still gonna be more expensive and probably inferior to the ARC B580 and I hope it stays that way.

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QUOTE(Tsuki91 @ Dec 30 2024, 03:52 PM)
RTX5060's specs is basically near-identical with the RTX4060, only difference is GDDR7 VRAM. In the words of Steve of GamersNexus; "it's a waste of sand". With rumored launch around March 2025, price wise (in USD) might be at $350, which is gonna be like RM1600 after all the tax, conversions etc taken into account. Still gonna be more expensive and probably inferior to the ARC B580 and I hope it stays that way.
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People tend to forget that GPU are more than the sum of their parts now. AMD historically had better hardware/per dollar than nvidia in each segment (except 4090) but market still go towards nvidia due to their better software stacks for RT, DLSS, streaming, shadowplay, and now FG, all which AMD are playing catchup and yet still buggy as hell.

Yes playing games is as much software as it is hardware and nvidia knew to make that switch years ago. Having top notch software & drivers that, in Jensen words: "it just works" is arguably the more impactful to user experience than having inferior hardware.
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QUOTE(Tsuki91 @ Dec 30 2024, 03:52 PM)
RTX5060's specs is basically near-identical with the RTX4060, only difference is GDDR7 VRAM. In the words of Steve of GamersNexus; "it's a waste of sand". With rumored launch around March 2025, price wise (in USD) might be at $350, which is gonna be like RM1600 after all the tax, conversions etc taken into account. Still gonna be more expensive and probably inferior to the ARC B580 and I hope it stays that way.
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Well, it is already well known that 60 is crap due to 10-15% increase generation to generation. However it is still a cheaper upgrade for those from 10 years ago like me who was on HD4850. The RTX4050 mobile is a huge improvement which is enough for my son to game with his friends.
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Sparkle Arc A380 6GB Genie Low Profile Genshin Impact test.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 30 2024, 10:50 PM)
Sparkle Arc A380 6GB Genie Low Profile Genshin Impact test.

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No FPS or frametime graph chart kinda useless to tell how well it performs or frame lags.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 30 2024, 11:10 PM)
No FPS or frametime graph chart kinda useless to tell how well it performs or frame lags.
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Its useless when you are blind. Do you know how painful it is to get recording working for this game? Oh, OSD is on and still not getting recorded.

After spending time tuning 3 apps finally getting it to work. Recording this one isn't easy.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 30 2024, 11:23 PM)
Its useless when you are blind. Do you know how painful it is to get recording working for this game? Oh, OSD is on and still not getting recorded.

After spending time tuning 3 apps finally getting it to work. Recording this one isn't easy.
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I only take comments with hard figures seriously. And youtube will skewer gameplay vids, esp high FPS.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 31 2024, 08:20 AM)
I only take comments with hard figures seriously. And youtube will skewer gameplay vids, esp high FPS.
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Good luck waiting for rare and hard to make ones.
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Intel Arc B580 - 45 Games Tested in 2025 - 1440p for anyone who interested (not my video)



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