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post Dec 6 2024, 01:31 PM

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if you call 988 sure ask you too divorce. pet hotel
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post Dec 6 2024, 01:34 PM

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if TS cant handle and maintain the relationship/family, when you got child, you would face the same.
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QUOTE(Autocountstick @ Dec 6 2024, 01:31 PM)
if you call 988 sure ask you too divorce. pet hotel
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Tonight ada. Why don't TS makes a call and ask Chan Fong? rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 6 2024, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(darksider @ Dec 6 2024, 01:16 PM)
When both Paktor what u doing? Everyday busy piap? Why that time never discuss with her the future plan like u wanna have kids or children?

If u wan kid she no want kids then of course this is incompatible, should know easily before marriage. Some wan kids but girl cannot pregnant then another story, but ur case seem like u both didn’t talk it out before marriage, then sure gg la.
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When we were dating, of course will be doing what a couple usually does, sharing and doing things TOGETHER. Before marriage, we also thought we will have children and the pet only came in after we got married. That's when she realized she like her pet more then building a family together.


QUOTE(kesvani @ Dec 6 2024, 01:27 PM)
What is your definition of couple activities. Go eat together, sleep together. If she no longer like travelling then you can go alone or with friends. If she need to settle her dog first then tell her to arrange her time before going out. For pet friendly well this I dont know
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When you move from a dating relationship to marriage, definitely there's a common goal after marriage to nurture. For example, have children, build a dream house, do a business, etc. that both of you will you work together to achieve it. After the pet came in, i do not have any OUR time together anymore and she focus mostly on the pet, which is not want i want, is she want.

Going out - we can't be away for whole day, need to feed the dog, fetch the dog from "dog daycare center", etc. This is not the life i want with my lifetime partner, my friend.
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post Dec 6 2024, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Autocountstick @ Dec 6 2024, 01:31 PM)
if you call 988 sure ask you too divorce. pet hotel
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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 6 2024, 01:34 PM)
Tonight ada. Why don't TS makes a call and ask Chan Fong?  rclxm9.gif
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I actually did called and speaked to Chan Fong hahahha.. He advised me try to talk again and back to normal routine, cos me and wife now we dont talk anymore. Ultimately, he said u can consider for a divorce.
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post Dec 6 2024, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 6 2024, 01:34 PM)
if TS cant handle and maintain the relationship/family, when you got child, you would face the same.
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Children is the responsibility of both parents. But the pet, i'm not obliged and i'm not owning it, i take care of it for my wife only.
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post Dec 6 2024, 01:48 PM

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TS, if you don”t mind , what is the enviroment of the wife growing up?

The parent in laws behaviour ? The wife”s sibling characters ?
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post Dec 6 2024, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(pkn_jet @ Dec 6 2024, 01:41 PM)
I actually did called and speaked to Chan Fong hahahha.. He advised me try to talk again and back to normal routine, cos me and wife now we dont talk anymore.  Ultimately, he said u can consider for a divorce.
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i macam got listen to this chapter before
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post Dec 6 2024, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Dec 6 2024, 01:48 PM)
TS, if you don”t mind , what is the enviroment of the wife growing up?

The parent in laws behaviour ? The wife”s sibling characters ?
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She grown in a small happy family, her parents and siblings are all also well connected. I would say she grown in happy and steady family.

One thing i do not understand is - she never owned a pet (dog) since she was kid and when we were dating for almost 7 years or so, we never thought of owning a pet also. If you grown with family that have pet dog, i can understand and definitely i will not going into marriage with her, cos im not a pet person.

And when we talked, she said she only realised she loved dog so much after she got one.

Speechless.
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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 6 2024, 01:54 PM)
i macam got listen to this chapter before
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Should be me haha
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post Dec 6 2024, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(pkn_jet @ Dec 6 2024, 01:42 PM)
Children is the responsibility of both parents. But the pet, i'm not obliged and i'm not owning it, i take care of it for my wife only.
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Having a child is a life long commitment. Are both of you really ready for it , or it is just you ?

What if your wife said what you just said about having the pet ? She is not obliged to it, she is taking care of the child for her husband only.

Then ? Divorce ?
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post Dec 6 2024, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(pkn_jet @ Dec 6 2024, 01:55 PM)
Should be me haha
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how long was it? may be can call again?

Need appointment or just call and got answer, then is your luck?
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QUOTE(ketnave @ Dec 6 2024, 01:58 PM)
Having a child is a life long commitment. Are both of you really ready for it , or it is just you ?

What if your wife said what you just said about having the pet ? She is not obliged to it, she is taking care of the child for her husband only.

Then ? Divorce ?
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You've got a point.
But a dog life can also be easily 10 years or so, if she can commit to a pet a dog, why not children. I know is all different discussion on this but hey thanks for your comment though.

Btw, the way she pet her dog is just as much as raising a kid. She is on a bit on the extreme side of petting just fyi.

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post Dec 6 2024, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 6 2024, 02:03 PM)
how long was it? may be can call again?

Need appointment or just call and got answer, then is your luck?
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Somewhere 2 or 3 weeks ago, i cannot recall. I happened to listening to 988 and try my luck, and got through. Just dial the number, Chan Fong will pick up your call directly. It was my first time calling radio station, good experience haha.
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post Dec 6 2024, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(pkn_jet @ Dec 6 2024, 02:08 PM)
Somewhere 2 or 3 weeks ago, i cannot recall.  I happened to listening to 988 and try my luck, and got through.  Just dial the number, Chan Fong will pick up your call directly.  It was my first time calling radio station, good experience haha.
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Nice. Hopefully you will dial again tonight rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 6 2024, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(pkn_jet @ Dec 6 2024, 02:06 PM)
You've got a point. 
But a dog life can also be easily 10 years or so, if she can commit to a pet a dog, why not children. I know is all different discussion on this but hey thanks for your comment though.

Btw, the way she pet her dog is just as much as raising a kid.  She is on a bit of the extreme side of petting just fyi.
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Like you said, a dog life span, at best 10+ years ... A child is a lifetime ...

Hmm, did you try to find out why she does that ? Is she using the dog to prepare herself ?

After you do have a child, whatever that you were experiencing now will some what be similar, there are places where you can't bring your kid (bar, etc), whenever you travel you will have to check here check there, bring stroller, let say when you two want to have your "own" time, you will be worried about your child ...

All in all ... do have and try to have a talk with your wife ... wish you all the best !

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post Dec 6 2024, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Dec 6 2024, 10:27 AM)
HI TS, there are deeper issues with your marriage other than just the pet.

this happens to many marriages, especially Asian and many people are just unwilling to speak about it. so you are one of the rare ones who are willing to talk about it.

the long answer is that you need to firstly ask yourself what are the deeper issues with your marriage.

the usual suspects are

1) reduce or lack of communication.

2) Different interest between the partners.

3) spark reduce due to too long together and lack of glue to hold the partner together. normally kids or common interests will hold the partner together but seems you are lacking both.
short answers is that if you are really contemplating divorce, you need to consult a lawyer first and slowly start to separate your financial assets.

i have friends that got cleaned out by the angry wife due to divorce and this was even before the proceedings started
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IMHO, if a marriage need a kid to hold both partners together, that marriage is already over.
Having kids not gonna make both partners better, or more loving, it's gonna amplify everything the couples already had (the good and the bad).
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post Dec 6 2024, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Dratini @ Dec 6 2024, 02:50 PM)
IMHO, if a marriage need a kid to hold both partners together, that marriage is already over.
Having kids not gonna make both partners better, or more loving, it's gonna amplify everything the couples already had (the good and the bad).
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i am a firm believer that if a man does not intend to have children (either biological or adopted) with his female partner, it's better not to get married unless you have really found your soul mate.

not my disclaimer is intend to have children. if you can't have children, it's a different story.

for women it's a different story. marriage without kids by choice, it's all a win for them.


marriage without kids by choice is just not worth it for a male, unless you can really click with your partner and can find so many common interest and goals.


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post Dec 6 2024, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(pkn_jet @ Dec 6 2024, 01:55 PM)
She grown in a small happy family, her parents and siblings are all also well connected.  I would say she grown in happy and steady family.

One thing i do not understand is - she never owned a pet (dog) since she was kid and when we were dating for almost 7 years or so, we never thought of owning a pet also.  If you grown with family that have pet dog, i can understand and definitely i will not going into marriage with her, cos im not a pet person.

And when we talked, she said she only realised she loved dog so much after she got one. 

Speechless.
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It only means that the blind spot / “land mine” in relationship is inevitable. Very heartache to know the partner gave up/ change direction half-way after into the marriage. Both male & female also have similar version of their stories.

During your separation period, give sufficient cool off period for 2 off you. Maybe a miracle can happens or some ppl can knock some sense into her logically.

I have heard the male lost his marriage to another male - very common.
I have heard the male lost his marriage to another lesbian - that was very unusual.
Now I heard a male that lost his marriage to a dog. I”m totally speechless.

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post Dec 6 2024, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(pkn_jet @ Dec 6 2024, 02:06 PM)
You've got a point. 
But a dog life can also be easily 10 years or so, if she can commit to a pet a dog, why not children. I know is all different discussion on this but hey thanks for your comment though.

Btw, the way she pet her dog is just as much as raising a kid.  She is on a bit on the extreme side of petting just fyi.
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maybe the issue isnt about the dog. how invested are you in the marriage in the first place? If you can't commit to what she wants as a compromise, and she does not indicate that she wants children, ie lack of compromise in her part, then there really isn't any two ways about it.

a bit pointless to point out that she suddenly like something, like a dog. Both of you also have never had children, no? How do you know its something that you and her would want to commit to? Especially since you won't be able to do couple things anymore. Same situation as having a dog, really, only you need more commitment than a being a fur parent

my point is, if you can't handle having a dog to the point of considering divorce, then having a kid would cause a greater strain to the marriage especially if your wife needs to compromise with you and have a kid together -if- she does not want kids. Basically putting her in your situation but instead of 10+ years, it would be a lifetime.

you might need to talk in depth about each others needs and expectations at this point. Marriage means that you don't get to do what you want 100% and you need to consider your partner/family/pets before yourself.

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