u dont kacau her for some time will be better.. make her feel weird.. make her feel tat she not so precious.. if not u sure become sorhai coz she think tat she is ur precious
u help her do asignment arr.. damn sorhai la.. dont make her feel like she is a princess... show ur "man-ness ". example. " can help me do asignment ??" u shud said to her " do ur self la. u think i wat ah.. very free izzit... i got 50 k business waiting for me to handle... .. do ur self only u can learn la baby "
i read thru ur thread.. u are one of the "por por mar mar " guys ler.. do things straight.. girls like guys with their own tot.. n they like guys who have their own stand... if u everything follow wat she wan.. she will jus go out with u coz got a servant who willing to fetch her in and out... pay for food... pay for movie.. and watever la. n FREE MASSAGE hahhaahha

dude good luck
once my roomate advice told me guy must act fast, get the result fast, if beh ngam then dun stop there, move forward to other gal or do other important thing in live

dun drag too long. not good for urself.......

dude you're already overdoing it. STOP giving her attention for say 1-2 weeks and see how she respond.

Sorry if this sound harsh, but I got strong feeling that she is just using you. She is playing hard to get as she already know you are chasing her. If you confess now, very high chance she'll reject as you mentioned she still thinking bout her ex while attached to her bf.

normally girl very loyal
they will very seldom have another guy in a mind, another guy as bf and another guy as bf to be...

TS >>anyway love is blind. no matter what we say here i dun think u will listen

this doesnt always work. at least it doesnt work on me. lol
a guy did it to me... and i completely lost interest in him. me not into hard to play games, and if he wants to play this, go ahead and do it on other gals.

but in this TS case
i think it will work lor

hemmm wish u good luck XD

You confess now confirm Game Over liao. U already been put under her friends zone. Thanks to showing too much interest in her and treating her a bit like a princess. Princess usually doesnt fall in love wtih their serveant. They fall in love with a prince who owns a castle and a white horse.....

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Dec 15 2007, 04:14 PM

i lol at this...
confess now, ts. gals lost interest very fast.
and worst still, if u dun take action now, other guys will do!

ZZzZZzzzzZz.....so the best courting advice for a man is to listen to a girls opinion? LOL

i tell you right now go on listen to her advice, you already become half wuss image under that girl. Keep listening and lets see who become the sorhai in the end.

Lemme tell you a couple years back my ex gf had a bf already in relationship for 3 years, and i knew her from that point on, during that ocassion she flirt wif many other guys... all fall for her and become some kinda sorhai wuss and began treating her like a princess and chasing her lookin like a loser, including her bf(who also treats her the same).

I wasn't interested at all wif her, and treat her so so only. Since we r in the same college and she lives nearby my neighbourhood we meet everyday and went back together everyday. Sometimes thrs a moment whr she thinks shes so freaking hot coz many idiot chasing her and lansi wif me, and immediately i shoot her back kaw kaw. I didnt even give her a single chance to heighten up her ego, in fact keep smashing them into pieces. So practically yeah we r frens but theres numerous occasion whr i ended up treating her like a bit of a trash...

Fast forward a couple of months, FOr your info all the guys that wooing her desperately and showing too much care and attention all she rejected mercilessly, either alwayz kena scold or something else, and it was pretty heartless... in the end she fall in love wif me in fact i even kena force to couple wif her.....

Your asking for my advice? attack their weak point. WHat is their weak point? They love SECURITY. Security for girls means both physically, emotionally and mentally.

Physically they love tall and buff guys. Why? because they feel secure, they want the guys to dominate them.

Mentally how? the 1st step is the easiest. Money/wealth/good career/owns a business/have nice car/have nice house/knows how to make money/financial independence or freedom from guys.

Last step is whr most of the guys PHAILS. Emotionally. You must emotionally DOMINATE or at LEAST BE EQUAL in the relationship. This means not giving in 100% to her every ridiculous demand(buying her expensive stuff, treat her every dinner, paying for everything, keep praising her so freaking beautiful until her ego bloatens up, keep giving her some kinda gifts, desperately call and sms her for hours, showing very early in the relationship that you've fall in love wif her, therefore you become their servant and do everything for her). If you do this, you mentally and emotionally shift the dominant power from you to them, its when the girl who'll make the calls, and hold more dominant power in the relationship. WHen your in this deep shite situation rest assured, no matter how nicest men in the world you become in her eyes, you will only be put in the her friends list, you wont ever get to be her bf. Even if you get to, its another typical relationship whr the guy suffers the most and the girl is the only 1 benefited from the relationship. Im not saying you must dominate 100%, AT LEAST the situation should be equal, either physically, mentally and emotionally.

Notice so many girls keeps whining their bf(an *ss hol*) no good but in the end still stick wif their bf? Notice why so many guys treat their gf like a princess and in the end got dumped for numerous reason? Most of you guys see it only thru your eyes but not thru your mind. Look, think and learn from the humanity around you, look at situation from an open mind without taking sides, being prejudice or selfish, and let nature and GOD tell you how this world works.

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Added on December 15, 2007, 11:08 pmAnyway sorry i didnt meant to be sexist, so no harm in flaming you. Coz if relationship is really dat straight forward i wouldn't suffer so much heartbreaking relationship in my early teeny years until im 23-24 years until when i learn thru experience, and thru wisdom.

Coz if its dat simple in courting a girl then there wouldn't be so much inexperience guys in relationship sulk a lot in this cupid corners. Coz they all do it the old fashion and straightforward guys way, like what you suggest.

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Dec 15 2007, 11:08 PM

max_cavalera
good advice dude

Thanks max cavalera.... Thanks a lot... I got what you mean already... emotionally.. physically... mentally... All equals.... What you said is true... Got some updates to you all...

Updated:
Last Thursday... I have a movie with her.... Nice outing as usual... Snap a lot of photos...

Friday night... I went to her house.. in her room... Showing her laptop desktop that I customized for her... Even create a Christmas wallpaper for her... She appreaciate it... and we chat alot until 12 midnight..... Gave her the 1st Christmas present... I ask her whether can celebrate Christmas with me on Monday 24 Dec.. Whole day... She said she will let me know on next Monday...

Saturday morning.. jogging with her... badminton with her... then after that fetch her to go to buy some Christmas stuff to decorate her Christmas tree... Now those stuff in my place ... Will go over to her room to decorate in coming Thursday... Cause no work marr...

This post has been edited by SphinxVille: Dec 16 2007, 01:56 PM

umm TS ah.. go over to her room? she stay in dorm wan ah?

Sometimes i feel that all your effort like nothing to her.. She din't ever tell her feeling yet ?

Anyway, keep it up the boost.

went through every page of this thread...very nice story...

hmm..she haven tell out her feelings, try asking her when u guys are in a conver and seek the time to attack...bt if things doesn't go right, go for defence mode...

This post has been edited by Victor3010: Dec 16 2007, 04:40 PM

Things aren't looking really favourable now, but I hope I was wrong previously about the part she's using you. Good luck TS, hope you get your christmas present.

so how'as the outcome, ts?

LoL, everyone like watching heroes, addicting in waiting for next episode !

yea
i also wait for the out come ?
her bf dun mind she bring other guy back to her room?
what is her BF job task? or she already break off with this bf lioa ?
i am so curious ler

Wait until Monday larr... She haven reply me yet...

I dont know her bf mind or not because that is her home... not rented de.... Her bf is student also... Haven break off with her bf de...

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Wait until Monday larr.... If she say ok with the Christmas date... then my chance getting higher... I will confess to her that time.... If she say no... then not so bad case de... She might celebrate with her bf.... Then I will confess to her when we decorating the Xmas tree....