Now that i've read more from page 1, i think flush's Priest advice is very accurate and very valueable to any new priest

I wish i have read his advice b4 i rolled a priest

Oh yeah, those who ACTUALLY PLAY A PRIEST will know where's the truth is regardless of his pve/pvp accomplishment.

pve perhaps, pvp, show us the ratings and gear sets before we even start. AFAIK ive never even seen flush's armory yet. so imo its really too early to make any definitive judgements on his pvp achievements per say.

PvE and PvP gameplays differs too much.... you can't say "Oh yeah, those who ACTUALLY PLAY A PRIEST will know where's the truth is regardless of his pve/pvp accomplishment." and be completely blatant to believe that what goes for PvE goes for PvP.

Honestly I have not tried playing with a priest in pvp, but as for a paladin... I can say that its 2 different things for PvE and PvP

flush's advice include from pve as well as pvp perspective. He clearly explained whats the pros and cons for pve as well as pvp. Which even the thread starter who nvr play a priest b4 understand and agree with his advice and decide to roll a UD.

And my statement does not said what goes for PvE goes for PvP. Read carefully my earlier advice is on pvp as i only concentrate on pvp after i done kara.

Now i can understand flush's frustrations trying to explain here. Man, ask yourself first b4 u question other's credibility.

Priest player: Do u play a priest as main?
Priest forum troll: No!? But my armory is leet111!!! And i got friend who play Pally and he knows priest more than the Priest player!

i am a priest

long story short, its more like:

priest player: im a raiding priest and i do occassional pvp but ive already know pvp inside out just because i do some form of casual pvp. and ill post post whore and get biased just because i <3 undead much.

priest forum troll(now this is the priest forum right? lol): no, undeads dont make you insta-win, especially in pvp, especially coming from a player that pvp day in and out, and ive got the ratings and gear and games played to prove that im no bullshit.

only small minded ppl can see fustration in a debate

I believe Q is explaining his perspective from a pvp PoV as a rogue who relies heavily on a good priest's gameplay to win games... Yes, in other words, he's the guy who criticizes a priest in pvp if he's not doing things right, a 3rd person perspective.

Like I said, I may not fully agree with what he said... but still, getting all worked up with his snide remarks and then have everybody disagree on his points just because he was being a Nazi... haha priceless.

Before u start using my own lines against myself, I do remember a long time ago when there was a topic discussing about arenas and I brought up a point about 5v5 teams. I mentioned what are the classes that will do well in 5v5s and 2 of them were pallies and holy priests. I stated my pros for them, including the ability cross dispel each other and their teammates, the priest can go offensive dispels while the pally can go defensive dispel, pally for fast heals n priests for shields and poms, basically covering each other's weaknesses.

I also mentioned rogues will have a tough time in 5v5s. What was ur comeback? RGOUES MUTLATE FOR 3K PEWPEW! I WILL REPLAEC PRIESTS WITH ROUGES ANYTIME!

Wow! What a coherent argument. In fact, I chose not to argue with you and gave you a lot of latitude back then because I thought u really were a friggin nub who likes to argue for the sake of arguing.

So, again, if you think you're going to pay me out and claim by throwing my own lines back at my face, think again. I do admit I'm not pvping much but please do not think that just because you pvp all the time, your thoughts are doctrine.

All I can say is, ZOMG! PEWPEW! 3K MUTILATE!

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Added on November 13, 2007, 9:03 amOh and it was ironic because not long after that, you were complaining about rogues' inability to do well in 5v5s and you were citing the same reasons that I already gave. QQ Mr. pvp pro!

This post has been edited by flush: Nov 13 2007, 09:03 AM

at least someone's enjoying something outta this lmao

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Added on November 13, 2007, 9:18 am

i would REALLY want you to quote that from any of my posts made here in the WoW sub-forum, until then, your just vomiting those words out of no where. (and thats me being reeeeeaaally civil here) AFAIK i was the person that was claiming how rogues and hunters were horrible on 5v5's, so what ur saying here is totally against what i claimed and even till this very day i stand by this statement. patch 2.3 will be entirely changing this but till this day patch 2.3 is not out yet (tonight though!)

if you DONT pvp much, you clearly do not have much credit as opposed to someone that does day in and day out, AND yields results, in which ive never been afraid to show them. they may not be world top rankings etc, but they are something, and as far as im concerned, probably way better than w/e pvp achievements you've made since you've never even bothered to show them, to even back your credits up.

so yeah, go on spewing random "RGOUES MUTLATE FOR 3K PEWPEW! I WILL REPLAEC PRIESTS WITH ROUGES ANYTIME!" "All I can say is, ZOMG! PEWPEW! 3K MUTILATE!" because its CLEARLY making you look smarter, and proves your point much better, CLEARLY.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Nov 13 2007, 09:18 AM

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=11053758

and as far as priest arena viability goes, rogue > priest. priest's arena viability is in fact, the lowest amongst all 9 classes, somemore you pit it against a rogue? which can take out people in mere seconds? provide ms style debuff? crippling? stun locking? 3-5k mutilate spamming on the priest i see how viable he can do while at the same time, being stunned

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Added on November 13, 2007, 10:06 amdirect quote

This post has been edited by flush: Nov 13 2007, 10:06 AM

Alright genius, so a rogue who watch priest play knows every ins and outs of priest moreso than a priest player.
And yeah a rogue in arena have so much free time to watch his partner play instead of busy doing dps and focus to blind at the right time.

for all i care

gnomes > all other races

lol wut? cant roll a gnome priest?

even if we can, racials doesnt mean much because it doesnt do sh*t ENUFF during high end pvp situations in BGs or Arenas. dude if u cant spam the damn button or have to wait MINUTES to use it again, it doesnt matter.

im not going to be an elitist jerk and put up comments like "owh i dun read other people posts with less than 2.3k rating or yell to people to link their armory or else stfu" but i've been there as in end game raids and fighting against the best pvp-ers.

both of u flush and mr Q have stated ur points. both of u are right AND wrong at the same time. who cares? we are talking about pvp here. its not like ur going to fight 1vs1. any kind of specs/class/combo/pair can do good. what matters most is UR SKILL. or gear for certain classes.

a good example is Bam, the gnome warr on Arthas. he tops the 2vs2,3vs3, and 5vs5 ratings. do u think he frets over escape artist?( which is nerfed in 2.3 btw). granted, most of the top teams have MS warrs in the thier ranks, but do racials do enuff to make a difference? NOPE

so moral of the story aka conclusion for the OP:

racials dunt do enuff for pvp (yes even wotf). if u think BGs and Arenas are too hard becoz of the gear gap, try world PVP.

racials can help during end game pve raids. its not like its going to matter a lot. dev plague+inner focus every 3m? its a dot. its not gonna crit. worry about the 1k mana cost+ the heals ur gonna get? dude seriyesly ur vt and ve covers much more. its not gonna matter much. heck any ally spirest can match ur dps with a similar gear. just learn to time ur sf and innervates.

im a spriest. i have spriests mains, alts AND twinks(eh that means i dun have a life). all classes do fine.

btw, who the hell owned arenas with a rogue nowdays? u r not refering to MING are u ? LoL

This post has been edited by [^-^]fumoffu: Nov 13 2007, 02:49 PM

Hello mr ROGUE, for a starter can u level up a priest from level 1 to 70 first before u come here to post with all your falseful assumptions on how to play a priest? Till then just STFU when priest player posting sound advice here.
Go brag about ur pvp rating with your own post nub.

if you need to level a character from 1-70 to know what its capable off you really need to rethink before typing in here again... it just oozes with stupidity.

i've played and lvled up all type of classes except for shammys and hunters. does that make me a genius regarding WoW?

Lol genius if by your logic, why dont u go drive F1 & become a champ now instead of trolling forum here.

by your logic WoW = F1 am i rite?

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Added on November 13, 2007, 2:51 pmi don't know about genius, but im sure you're 80% to being one "who has no life"

This post has been edited by sets84: Nov 13 2007, 02:51 PM

Priest is the only class with 2 racial, it counts when your opponent have 2 better racial than u. There's a reason blizz need to balance priest racial & give fear ward to all priest.

Sigh, the usual ego from wow players.

If someone achives something more than another, people call him 'no lifer'.

If someone achieves something less than another, people call him 'noob'.

There is no ending to this vicious cycle. Just play the game and enjoy it as it should be as it's just a GAME.

ohhh no.... i do have to admit i was also once a "he who has no life".
its not about ego, its about not living in denial