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post Nov 6 2007, 08:19 PM

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Hi Cronzark. You did not mention which spec you wanted to be when you hit 70. You did ask about whether trolls can be shadow priests, but I'm assuming that's just for levelling.

If your end game mission is to be a raiding shadow priest, I strongly suggest UD. If you're planning on healing, go BE or Troll. If your desire for rolling a priest is to pvp in arenas, UD is the way to go, whether you're healing or playing the role of a shadow priest.

Why am I such a pro undead for shadow priests? Take it from me, race does play an important part especially in end game content. I rolled a priest as my first character, and my main is still a priest. I have raided both as a healer and dps-mana battery and also pvp-ed both spec.

Now let me explain to you why you should go undead. Undead priests get 1 very important priest racial called Devouring Plague. This spell does alot of damage over time as well to a mob and that damage is returned as heals to you. While it cost a tonne of mana, the property of this spell, damage over time (DoT), benefits 100% with your bonus to shadow damage.

What this means is that for every 3 minutes, you get to put on an additional DoT besides Shadow Word: Pain and Vampiric Touch to a mob, both spells which also benefit 91% from shadow damage and 100% from shadow damage respectively. An extra DoT doing high amount of damage on a boss translates to extra damage, bringing his life down faster, but most importantly it means returning more mana to your teammates.

While this spell costs a tonne of mana, what every undead shadow priests who is skill worthy do is to use inner focus (1 free spell) with Devouring Plague. Most of us undead shadow priests (but not me) create a macro to hotbind Inner Focus and Devouring Plague into one key.

Before any of you start criticising the use of Devouring Plague with Inner Focus, let me put forward the argument why we use them together. Inner Focus is a third tier talent in your Discipline tree. What it does is when activated, your next spell cast will be free of mana cost, and if that spell can crit, it will give you 25% bonus to crit.

While Devouring Plague is a DoT spell and cannot crit, what other spell would you use this spell on? A shadow priest only have 2 spells that can crit, Mind Blast and Shadow Word: Death. Both spells do not cost as much mana as Devouring Plague, and I would rather put an additional DoT on bosses than a singular jump in DPS as well as threat. Not only that, but the heal over time that you gain back from Devouring Plague means that your healers will not have to spend mana healing you from your backlash damage off of Shadow Word: Death.

As for Troll priests, they are awesome as raid healers. Healing is more situational and when you need to heal fast, berserking will make a big difference.

Belf priests are pretty much mediocre as either dps or heals in a raid. Their aoe silence might be nice to have in PVP, but if your arena opponents are more melee than casters (2v2 arena Feral Druid and Rogue), then your silence means jacksh!t. And they do not have Will of the Forsaken, a free trinket for sleep, charm and fear effects. Basically, undead's WoTF breaks a succubus' seduce and also the fear from priests and warlocks.

I hope my long winded post clears things up for you.
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post Nov 6 2007, 10:54 PM

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Hmm I'm not sure what u mean by ROO. What's ROO?
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post Nov 7 2007, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 7 2007, 08:47 AM)
your comment over ud priest only applies to raid. the only real benefit of ud's in arenas/pvp = wotf and that only applies to warlocks/priests and perhaps warriors at times. (lol surv hunters with wywern sting too maybe)

and your example of be silence in 2v2 arena is also flawed. silence is also useful against feral druids to prevent shifts, cyclone, or even heals at time. druids stuck in forms, unable to heal, and/or unable to cyclone cc you are almost useless in arenas.
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I'm afraid I will have to disagree with you on that. We already have 2 spell interrupts. Psychic Scream and Silence. I would rather have a spell that can be used to both do high dmg over time as well as heal over time, compared to a 2 second silence that shares the same diminishing returns as both the previous 2 spells.

In my previous example of a druid/rogue 2v2 team, none of them can dispel Devouring Plague. Psychic Scream and Silence is more than enough to keep him interrupted while we zerg him down. Every class has the ability to interrupt spell cast. If you're in a 2v2 fight against a druid/rogue team, won't your team go for the druid first and cc/dps him? Leaving the task of interrupting spell cast to a shadow priest alone is not entirely a good idea.

Also, Devouring Plague, when used with Shadow Word: Pain, VE and renew allows a Shadow Priest some breathing space to move away from melee targets once he's feared the melee target off himself. Standing still to cast flash heal isn't a good idea when fighting melee opponents. But DoT kiting and then silencing if the druid shapeshifts will buy us some time to throw shield and PoM on ourselves and our partner. Don't forget, CC is very important, but mobility is just as important in arenas.
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post Nov 8 2007, 04:21 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 7 2007, 01:16 PM)
fear can be easily countered, and also subjected to DR
silence can be chained, the more the merrier
and no, silence is NOT subjected to DR.
latest PTR build has DR on silence, however, due to intense qq'ing, it was promptly removed.
live build has no DR on silence, nor does PTR now, or future patch 2.3

high dmg over time? heal over time? dispel, you got NOTHING.
even if it isnt dispeled, the dmg is still:
a) dot, which takes time, and subjected to outhealed (healing scalability > dmg scalability by far)
b) finally subjected to resilience as of patch 2.2 (or 2.1)

and in your previous example?
DP rogue = clos
DP druid = hot outhealing and, you wanna zerg a resil decked druid down with fear (trinket) and silence while his hots are ticking? and a fat ns heal and occassional swiftmends to boot (dont even think about dispeling hots when hes having liftblooms to cover, you'll only make urself look stupid), doesnt take much wow knowledge to know it is almost impossible.

unless of course you meant non pvp decked/low resil druids. those druids die in 2-3 hit during caster form from my blades anyways, not even worth mentioning.

true, every class has the ability to interrupt spell cast, but not all of them are very effective or even truly viable in high end pvp. eg:

-rogue trying to kick a mage from 30 yd away. true, DT is also an interrupt, but DT requires CP, and its slow. patch 2.3 (or PTR) DT travels faster, but will no longer proc relentless, and will be easily faked out by cast cancels.
-priest using fear to interrupt a mage 30 yd away, oh lets make the mage a frost mage too, or maybe have a warrior hamstring'ing you and pounding your face while we at it. get the idea already?

and no, its not an entire certainty that you have to go for druid at first in 2v2 vs druid/rogue. if you want further enlightment, go warcraftmovies.com, download neilyo 6, and watch the match up between neilyo + gumbot VS xecks + secretive, and you'll understand, and be enlighted.

sure, but lets remember that that this ONLY applies to shadow priest with VE, and lets not forget:
1) dot healing lol?
2) wound poison mortal strike and lol hunter aimshot post 2.3
3) and no it doesnt allows you breathing space against melee lolz. especially when ur hamstring'ed/cripple poisoned/frost snare.

Don't forget, CC is very important, but mobility is just as important in arenas.
your post regarding DP does NOT address CC or mobility. care to elaborate more?

Dispel? Yep I know a rogue will clos out of my dots, which is why I didnt mention putting DP on the rogue. As for the druid hot outhealing my dots, excellent! Thats exactly what I want him to do. I can either get close to him n fear or silence from range n dispel him from his HoT (yes, I dispel it early and if you don't it'll make you look stupid), then throw a shield/PoM on my teammate and getting in range to throw a fear at the druid.

Wow silence chain! 2 secs and 8 yards yay! Oh wait, we're talking about priest racials; spells that are only available to priests of a certain race. You're talking about a racial that's available to that single race, regardless of class so we might as well compare it to WoTF. Which is still better than your 2 sec silence.

If you want to compare Belf priest racial with Undead's DP, you should compare their consume magic. Which is pretty much a joke.

And what's there not to understand about mobility? DoT kite? Don't understand? Read what I wrote again?

Also, Devouring Plague, when used with Shadow Word: Pain, VE and renew allows a Shadow Priest some breathing space to move away from melee targets once he's feared the melee target off himself. Standing still to cast flash heal isn't a good idea when fighting melee opponents. But DoT kiting and then silencing if the druid shapeshifts will buy us some time to throw shield and PoM on ourselves and our partner. Don't forget, CC is very important, but mobility is just as important in arenas.

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sure, but lets remember that that this ONLY applies to shadow priest with VE, and lets not forget:
1) dot healing lol?
2) wound poison mortal strike and lol hunter aimshot post 2.3
3) and no it doesnt allows you breathing space against melee lolz. especially when ur hamstring'ed/cripple poisoned/frost snare.


A shadow priest without VE isn't a shadow priest at all. How the hell are u gonna spec shadowform and vampiric touch without speccing VE? Wound poison mortal strike hunter aimshot? So, you're not gonna use any ability to at least mitigate some of their damage even though they cripple your healing by 50% and have bleed/poison effects on you? Listen to your own argument there man.

And no it does not allow me some breathing space against melee all the time. But SW:P & DP both tick for 500 over dmg every 3 secs, so every 3 secs my opponent is ticked for over 1k dmg and the dmg from DP is healing me back. And since you're talking abt breathing space and melee, can a belf priest break out of Intimidation Shout? Is their 2 sec silence gonna mean jacksh!t on a warr or rogue or hunter? Consume magic? Oh wait, consume his own buffs at a moment like this? Boy am I glad I'm UD.
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post Nov 8 2007, 08:57 PM

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which part of dispelling lifebloom early don't u understand? those dots do damage on the third second, so when i apply dots on a druid, he immediately applies lifebloom on himself and thats when i dispel it. his life is full, who cares that lifebloom is gonna instantly heal him when dispelled? do u get it now? so i better not dispel it cos its gonna heal him to full life even tho he's health is full? and oh yeah, shadowpriests can and will shift out of shadowform to heal their own teammates because when ur teammate is alive n full health compared to other team at half health = more likely to win.

remember this? "and your example of be silence in 2v2 arena is also flawed. silence is also useful against feral druids to prevent shifts, cyclone, or even heals at time. druids stuck in forms, unable to heal, and/or unable to cyclone cc you are almost useless in arenas." OHMIGOD DRUID SHIFTING OUT TO CYCLONE/HEAL! IF HE SHIFTS OUT HIS TEAMMATE WILL LOSE WAT IS HE THINKING??

"if you havent realized, if a shadow priest is forced outta shadow form your team pretty much already lost." i thought u pvp-ed hard and don't give up the fight even when ure the last man standing but this kind of mentality ure projecting here? if shadowpriest is forced outta shadowform? = definitely lose? wow lol.

you're saying im beating a dead horse while ure going on and on about how great a 2 sec 8 yard range silence is?? LOL geez man! "hey look our opponent is a pretty belf! lets all stand clumped up in a tight spot so that he can throw a 2 sec silence on us!" wow dude that 2 sec silence is purely situational. i'm glad that u figured out that it works against 6 out of 9 classes. devouring plague works against every target and it's only rogues dwarfs priests n pallies that can get rid of them. if a rogue has used his clos them im def gonna use it on him.

"sure, but lets remember that that this ONLY applies to shadow priest with VE, and lets not forget:"

OH I DUNNO, THIS SENTENCE SURE MADE IT SOUND LIKE U THINK THAT SOME SHADOWPRIESTS HAVE VE AND SOME DON'T. better read what u wrote before trying to school me with lines like "you wanna start reading and comprehending better now?" cos if u wanna pay me out, better expect to get paid back.

on resil targets, you can expect that to be:
1) mitigated over 10+%
2) people will always have 10k+ hp and dots will take time to work its way through it
3) most HOTs are ticking AT LEAST 600-900 already
4) DD heals does way more than that needless to say

duh more reasons to throw an extra dot then. your point of view is "2 sec silence yay! all the opponent can do now is jump around cos i've silenced him for 2 secs yay" well to each his own i would say.

and ure right. wotf isn't useful against the other six. but it has been considered gamebreaker for many for a very long time. and before u bring up LOLFEARWARD, let me just clear it up on how it works for you. fearward is a magic buff, and thats how im gonna treat it. an extra buff. thats gonna be dispelled purged devoured by felhunter. 2 out of the 3 classes that fearward is useful against = priests and locks. priests can dispel it. locks will set their felhunter on u and devour all ur buffs. so ure left with no fear breaker except ur trinket against the 2 classes that u really need it. and every ud priest is most likely going to put fearward on his non-ud teammate who does not have any way of breaking/resisting fears.

"im pointing out that racial, to any class even priests, does NOT by any means play a critical role in gameplay, unless you're in the high end hardcore contents in pvp, or pve.

every abilitiy gives you an edge, but due to the nature of racial abilities, it does not make any single races totally and entirely pre-dominant over another race."

i hate to bring this up but this guy was asking for advice on what race to choose for priest for raiding purposes. but u just love to jump on every opportunity to start an argument that tends to lead to pvp and arenas, because that's all u do? give it up pal, the op is not thanking you for all the useless info u just gave out. ure the worst person a newbie can turn to for advice and its been proven time and time again with all ur pvp advice.

stick to what u do best, and the next time someone asks for help regarding pvp/arena, then give them the whole 9 yards. otherwise, stop wasting everyone else's time.
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post Nov 10 2007, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 9 2007, 02:46 AM)
QFT for that. thats what im trying to point out.


Added on November 9, 2007, 2:47 am

gettin nerf bat anyways~


Added on November 9, 2007, 3:30 am

because we all know druids can only case lifeblooms once amirite?!
shadow priest teams rely on the shadow priest for pure dmg, and usually have another healer to do the healing unless ur in 2v2, and even in 2v2, zerging down 1 guy first before even thinking of ditching shadow form for heals is still preferable as you have the talents to do dmg and almost no talents into healing.

in simple terms, when a shadow priest is forced to do healing, the team is already at an disadvantage or already pretty much lost. because you might as well count the said shadow priest half a man over a full member of the team.

if you still cannot graps that, perhaps you dont arena enough.
because driud shifts cost WAY LESS mana, and druid dont need talents for travel form. its really that simple. unless blizzard start implementing talents for travel form so druids can own faces in travel form for them to stick with it like shadow priests, they will be spamming shifts on and off. especially resto druids.
again, im not projecting a mentality of losing, its really simple to "not lose", dont ever shift outta shadow form especially 3v3/5v5, unless 1 of your enemy is dead (in 2v2 only)
you taking my so called mentality being projected wrongly is your problem, dont push the blame on to me.
again, whos the person getting things wrong? im pointing out how racial doesnt play a crucial role in WoW unless ur in high-end pvp/pve. you're just going apeshit over my argument of BE silence is your problem. and if you think ONLY dwarf priest can get rid of DP, um wow, the other priest must be somewhat handicapped on dispeling huh? and felhunter dispel anyone? mage iceblocks? shows how knowledgeble you are right now. and thats JUST dispel, even more ways to counter dp from even landing the first place, but i guess you wouldnt even bother.
again, dont get butthurt when your misunderstanding my points. i dont see how my sentense imply that im point out shadow priest may or may not get VE. im pointing out that there are other priests that exist say holy priests? im sure this world only have shadow specced priest amirite? english comprehension may not be your best skill, but by no means should you be goin apeshit on people just because you are having trouble with english.
- i dont see how there is more reasons to throw in extra dot to help on self healing through dots, and ur not getting much in the first place, and thats assuming its not dispeled/cloakec/prevented off.
- good points, but still, does not address that undeads are clearly superior AND critical for someone to choose it over other races such as troll/blood elves. troll hex alone provides an advantage in teams adept at target switching with a 20% healing debuff, to provide time for dps'ers like hunters (aimshot 2.3, that has a lengthy castime), or rogues (that need time to stack their wounds). in the mean time the target is only capable of recieving 80% heals while gettin a sudden target switch. and troll berserking can be very useful if used properly be it holy or shadow specced.
- BE silence can be chained by other sources of silence eg: counterspell/priest self silence provided hes shadow/warlock spell lock etc. and because of this, blizz is considering to have DR on interrupts/silences, but eventually didnt made it because of intense QQ's. in shorter term, a caster is potentially able to be kept silence over 10 seconds++ and in arena pvp, even if ur 490+ resil, 10++ seconds of unable to do anything is still proven fatal.

and thats just covering the horde side, while alliance have 4 outta 5 races that are able to choose the priest class.
yes, i know the guy's asking what priest to choose for, and im giving advice to him. raiding, pvp or arenas, they share the same characteristic, and at the end of the day my advice still holds true, and till now you still havent done anything to prove otherwise. and im not seeking for thanks, he ask for advice, i give it as i see fit. and last i check, none of my information are useless and this is a messageboard after all where i could post what i see fit so long it doesnt violate the board rules, in which i didnt.

i choose to pvp is my own choise of what i want to do with wow, and to this extent, posting on this boards. and if you know what i do best, why are you posting crap about pvp'ing where raiding is what you probably do better and not pvp? if you wanna post arguments over my points, perhaps its smarter to post up raiding pointers over pvp pointers no? because you are in no way making a lot of strong points and are in many ways self contradicting and at the end of the day, does not even provide solid arguments of my point, which is: racial does NOT play a critical role in any class unless you are in high-end pvp/pve.

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perhaps you are one having reading comprehension? i cant see how there are keywords of "raiding" anywhere in that particular sentence, instead i see the keyword "newbie"
and my advice are based solely on that.

and more FYI's! (omg?!)
there are ACTUALLY signs of appreciation on post #3
and omg i actually even made a post stating undeads DO have an edge in pvp on post #2

yet ur still argueing over this? hilarious really.  rclxm9.gif  doh.gif

you love to raid, sure, i dont judge you for that, but dont even think about judging my love for pvp, as i know i can sure as hell rape the crap outta any raiders considering their lack of pvp'ing/resilience or both. as you even said yourself, to each it own. and i can back my own damn words by going to PTR, and you can even choose to 1v1 duel, 2v2,3v3,5v5 arena'ing me and/or my team. that way not even realm can be an excuse.
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dude again u proof ure the one with failure in reading comprehension. i mentioned rogues dwarves priests and pallies as in [rogues = clos] [dwarves = STONEFORM] = [priests = remove/abolish disease] (YEAH ITS NOT CALLED DISPEL COS DISPEL ONLY WORKS FOR MAGIC EFFECTS AND DP IS A DISEASE EFFECT) and [pally = cleanse].

shadowform yeah it costs a tonne of mana, which is why we were given shadowfiend. if a belf shadowpriest eats DP they gotta shift out of shadowform to abolish it. too bad it costs a tonne of mana for them too eh.

i'm pointing out that UD holds way many better racials than belf. even cannibalize can be useful in arenas. even sets84 has mentioned that the range sucks, which is why i said it is purely situational.

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perhaps you are one having reading comprehension? i cant see how there are keywords of "raiding" anywhere in that particular sentence, instead i see the keyword "newbie"
and my advice are based solely on that.


yeah in his first original post he didnt mention raiding/pvping and no one bothered to ask. all u did was give a bunch of generalised answers. u think those answers are in anyway going to help a new guy?

which was why i bothered asking him and his reply was that he is rolling a horde shadowpriest for raiding. but u just had to go on and on about the pvp aspect. grats on comprehension failure.

here, his reply if u didnt happen to catch it.

alright Flush. Thanks for the brilliant information given to me now i decide to play UD priest since i want to spec as Shadow Priest for raiding in 70. I read posting in Worldofwarcraft forum that shadow priest often ROO by using the skill combination. is it true? Anyway, for the rest, thanks for information about priest

heyyy i even bold them for you incase u missed it the first time! failure to read n going on and on about pvp = teh lose.

ur reply right here right after the OP has replied to my question about whether he's rolling a shadow priest, and is it for raiding.

your comment over ud priest only applies to raid. the only real benefit of ud's in arenas/pvp = wotf and that only applies to warlocks/priests and perhaps warriors at times. (lol surv hunters with wywern sting too maybe)

and your example of be silence in 2v2 arena is also flawed. silence is also useful against feral druids to prevent shifts, cyclone, or even heals at time. druids stuck in forms, unable to heal, and/or unable to cyclone cc you are almost useless in arenas.


hmmm... remember that term u use beating a deadhorse and also ? sounds like what ure doing right here. OP already gave confirmation that he:-
a.) wants to spec shadow
b.) is going to raid

and you are still going on and on about? PVP.

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again, dont get butthurt when your misunderstanding my points. i dont see how my sentense imply that im point out shadow priest may or may not get VE. im pointing out that there are other priests that exist say holy priests? im sure this world only have shadow specced priest amirite? english comprehension may not be your best skill, but by no means should you be goin apeshit on people just because you are having trouble with english.


This topic has been about shadowpriests for the last i dunno, 100 replies? And ur sentence does imply that there are shadowpriests without VE. So am I supposed to apologize because u didn't convey the message u were trying to put across and that ppl will get the wrong msg? OH HEY MR. KILLER I'M SORRY THAT U KILLED MY DAUGHTER! Do u see victim's parents apologizing to a killer? Yeah.. they go apeshit.

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you love to raid, sure, i dont judge you for that, but dont even think about judging my love for pvp, as i know i can sure as hell rape the crap outta any raiders considering their lack of pvp'ing/resilience or both. as you even said yourself, to each it own. and i can back my own damn words by going to PTR, and you can even choose to 1v1 duel, 2v2,3v3,5v5 arena'ing me and/or my team. that way not even realm can be an excuse.


Hey look who's the one going apeshit? hey mr. pls relax! i'm scared! i apologize. don't go apeshit over my ass with ur nerd rage. wow reminds me of that time when someone here over the forums asked u out for a fight.

and i can back my own damn words by going to PTR, and you can even choose to 1v1 duel, 2v2,3v3,5v5 arena'ing me and/or my team. that way not even realm can be an excuse.

sorry u feel that i'm judging u about ur love for pvping. i'm really sincere abt this apology. its just that... like i said, the op has stated that he's looking to roll a shadow priest for raiding and really, u should leave the advice to the ppl who are knowledgeable about this issue. instead of going on and on about pvp... thats just real sad.

You wanna go around insulting everyone else's posts with replies like "vague comments ftl" and "if you're not gonna even bother to reply with something constructive, its best that you dont at all." Well, listen to urself first. Well, what the hell are ur replies about? im sorry mr e-thug, i wouln't be meeting u in the PTR. but go ahead and bring ur 'crew' there and roll everyone else. i heard thats where all the cool kidz hang out these days.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 12 2007, 09:37 AM)

i mean hell, u should leave the advice to the ppl who are knowledgeable about this issue. instead of going on and on about pvp... thats just real sad. back at ye face? im more knowledgeble in pvp, which can be proven by a my armory, ratings, and even a match up if you continue to disbelieve, and you're going on and on about pvp, in which, i couldnt stand by and see you continously spouting constant flawed/incorrect information to the thread.
Before u start using my own lines against myself, I do remember a long time ago when there was a topic discussing about arenas and I brought up a point about 5v5 teams. I mentioned what are the classes that will do well in 5v5s and 2 of them were pallies and holy priests. I stated my pros for them, including the ability cross dispel each other and their teammates, the priest can go offensive dispels while the pally can go defensive dispel, pally for fast heals n priests for shields and poms, basically covering each other's weaknesses.

I also mentioned rogues will have a tough time in 5v5s. What was ur comeback? RGOUES MUTLATE FOR 3K PEWPEW! I WILL REPLAEC PRIESTS WITH ROUGES ANYTIME!

Wow! What a coherent argument. In fact, I chose not to argue with you and gave you a lot of latitude back then because I thought u really were a friggin nub who likes to argue for the sake of arguing.

So, again, if you think you're going to pay me out and claim by throwing my own lines back at my face, think again. I do admit I'm not pvping much but please do not think that just because you pvp all the time, your thoughts are doctrine.

All I can say is, ZOMG! PEWPEW! 3K MUTILATE!


Added on November 13, 2007, 9:03 amOh and it was ironic because not long after that, you were complaining about rogues' inability to do well in 5v5s and you were citing the same reasons that I already gave. QQ Mr. pvp pro!

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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=11053758

and as far as priest arena viability goes, rogue > priest. priest's arena viability is in fact, the lowest amongst all 9 classes, somemore you pit it against a rogue? which can take out people in mere seconds? provide ms style debuff? crippling? stun locking? 3-5k mutilate spamming on the priest i see how viable he can do while at the same time, being stunned


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quaza, rogues were qq-ing way back when season 1 started and not season 2. u said u pvp hard and do lots of research n stuff? then u should know all this and yes, even tho that post is old, the fact remains ur rogue mutilate 3-5k crippling poison stun locking... i already mentioned pallies n priests can cross dispel to cover up each other's ass. Blessing of Freedom, heard of it?

BoF has nothing to do with res n stam and whatnot, so pls don't come up with excuses like season 2 not out yet, ppl don't have enough res back then yada yada because u obviously did not evaluate what i said in whole about the cross dispels and all.

and about me not pvping much and u shooting me down for it, back then i haven't even started playing wow again and yet after reviewing arena feedbacks and class talents as well as what can be done and what can't be done, I made a statement that was even more relevant and which proved to be true. Rogues will struggle in 5v5 and it is better for a team to have pally+priest combo.

 

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