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 Singapore company PIP, MAXIS CASE COMPARE

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nelson969
post Nov 27 2024, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Aug 30 2024, 03:06 PM)
PIP is only an excuse and documentation proof for your future dismissal. So that they have bullets to shoot you with you unable to countersue or lodge complaint for unfair dismissal.

Sure some people do complete their PIP supposedly unscathed and continue working but those are more  exception than norm. Chances are they already have the target board on their backs and is placed in fridge for any consideration for BIP.

If you really intended to climb up further in your career, then it's time to make a jump if you kena PIP.  Even if you like the company/culture/environment or whatever benefits, you jump out first. Go a few other companies and build your value then you can go back to that company with a different role or position. But chances are once you're out, you won't want to go back there because the grass is always greener on the other side.
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post Nov 28 2024, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 27 2024, 01:44 PM)
Like this can?
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Subject: Follow-Up on Performance Improvement Plan Status

Dear [HR Representative's Name],

I hope this email finds you well.

I am writing to kindly follow up regarding the status of my Performance Improvement Plan (PIP). I understand that these processes take time, but I wanted to check if there have been any updates or further steps I should be aware of.

Please let me know if there is anything else I can do to assist or if additional information is required from my side. I truly appreciate your guidance and support.

Thank you for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,
[Your Full Name]
[Your Employee ID, if applicable]

"

Or this
I think they haven’t forgotten about this matter, but my friends advised me not to ask them directly.

Since this is Singapore, I believe they wouldn’t take any unexpected actions in December or early next year.

Moreover, I’ve already completed the PIP and am still working here without receiving any official letter or email stating that I failed the PIP.
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I think it looks good, it is better to email to ask about it.
3 possible outcomes.
1. they give you a direct reply pass/ fail.
2. If it doesn't work, please ask to appeal for re-pip.
3. they don't reply or reply with not final yet

ayamxxx
post Nov 28 2024, 09:12 AM

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if it me ts, I rather find myself at another company, fresh start than when my name already tarnished (even not your fault)
TheEvilMan
post Nov 28 2024, 09:28 AM

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Tot discussion abt ts bed performance, haiyaa
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post Dec 23 2024, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 28 2024, 09:12 AM)
if it me ts, I rather find myself at another company, fresh start than when my name already tarnished (even not your fault)
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Now I feel this company management team is xxxxx...

Until now, there has been no decision from the company regarding the offset of my annual leave until my last day.

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Dec 23 2024, 12:21 PM
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post Dec 23 2024, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 23 2024, 12:21 PM)
Now I feel this company management team is xxxxx...

Until now, there has been no decision from the company regarding the offset of my annual leave until my last day.
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January, try sending CV and jump for a fresh start
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post Dec 23 2024, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 23 2024, 12:59 PM)
January, try sending CV and jump for a fresh start
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Now already can send.....

Just I not yet prepared the interview....

Luckily I have many annual leaves

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Dec 23 2024, 01:42 PM
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post Dec 23 2024, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(vaksin @ Nov 28 2024, 08:59 AM)
I think it looks good, it is better to email to ask about it.
3 possible outcomes.
1. they give you a direct reply pass/ fail.
2. If it doesn't work, please ask to appeal for re-pip.
3. they don't reply or reply with not final yet
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Now, I need to accumulate all work materials and notes to pass the next interview and secure a good job.

I received an improvement performance plan, but it's not an issue. I have a lot of savings, and I am a PR.

I should not feel sad. It's the political work culture, and I cannot let myself feel sad.

Being sad and angry will not help with these issues.


It sounds like you're going through a challenging situation, but it's great that you have a strong mindset to overcome it.


It's normal to feel a bit down when faced with setbacks, but as you've rightly pointed out, negative emotions like sadness and anger won't help you move forward.



Instead, focusing on what you can control, like preparing for the interview and building on your strengths, will be more productive.


A few strategies to help:

Stay Goal-Oriented: Keep your eyes on the bigger picture—securing a good job. This will help you stay motivated and remind you of your long-term goals.


Use Your Strengths:

You’ve mentioned having a lot of savings and being a PR, which are strengths.

Leverage these advantages when evaluating opportunities, and consider how they can help you make a fresh start if needed.


Focus on Preparation:

Take your time to accumulate work materials and notes for the interview.

Being prepared and feeling confident in your abilities can help reduce anxiety.


Balance Emotional Health:

It's important to acknowledge your feelings but not let them control your actions. Take time for activities that make you feel good—whether it's exercise, hobbies, or spending time with loved ones.


Learn from the Situation:


If the performance improvement plan feels daunting, try to identify areas where you can grow.

This will not only improve your chances of passing future performance reviews but also enhance your professional development.


Ultimately, remember that setbacks are often temporary.

With your savings and PR status, you have the foundation to move forward confidently.



Keep pushing toward your goals, and you'll be well on your way to success!


I think I will recover in 3 days......

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Dec 23 2024, 08:29 PM
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post Dec 23 2024, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 23 2024, 12:21 PM)
Now I feel this company management team is xxxxx...

Until now, there has been no decision from the company regarding the offset of my annual leave until my last day.
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Just move on la sis.
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post Dec 24 2024, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 23 2024, 10:11 PM)
Just move on la sis.
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common dilemma.
want move on but no offer.
stay but company no use.
best is to stand with it while looking for new job offer.
if not lucky, will get terminated first.
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post Dec 24 2024, 08:26 AM

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yg kena PIP usually mangsa bell curve
no jilat then wait byebye
Jigoku
post Dec 24 2024, 08:53 AM

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Sis ini company throwing you away liao. Don't look back already


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post Dec 24 2024, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Dec 24 2024, 08:53 AM)
Sis ini company throwing you away liao. Don't look back already
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I am bro.

Too many politics company also not worth me to stay....

CPF is also an issue for them....

Kisiao company management
Jigoku
post Dec 24 2024, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 24 2024, 10:19 AM)
I am bro.

Too many politics company also not worth me to stay....

CPF is also an issue for them....

Kisiao company management
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Then bro find other grass liao, I also went through what you kena except my boss belum start PIP.

Day in day out keep telling me I will fail my probation, keep give me task that impossible for me.

Once I feel kena this, I sudah start looking for job. Not much can do just accept roll wrong dice this time. Learn something from this problem ba

This post has been edited by Jigoku: Dec 24 2024, 12:14 PM
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post Dec 24 2024, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Aug 30 2024, 02:35 PM)
Performance Improvement Plan
My company only have 1 stage of Performance Improvement Plan (PIP).

Sent email straightaway.

No stage 1 (counselling) and stage 2(verbal warning).

Stage 3: Send the email from [start date] to [end date].

Do all MNCs Performance Improvement Plan have these three outcomes?

1) Terminate the employee

2) Extend the PIP

3) Discontinue the program (meaning the employee has passed and their performance has improved)

And the email will not state these 3 outcomes right?
Some company do not write this into their their handbook?

My email from management just ended with this sentence:

'We appreciate your acknowledgment.'

I have not signed anything at all.No physical letter has been issued to me.I just received an email from the company.
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It has already been 3 months, but my upper management has not informed me whether I passed or failed the IPP.

Do you think they just want to "put on a show" for others?

Some of my colleagues frequently speak badly about me.
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This kind of things is to let employee feel they are respected and they feel fear withe the black and and white , if company want to get rid some one they has signature prove black and white, while bonus or increments don't really related to this kinda of aprrisal so no need spend more effort or time on filling in all this.

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post Dec 24 2024, 12:22 PM

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Your PIP is align with your job scope
Malaysia labor law is not able to protect you if documentation is not proper
When company issue PIP, you better consult profesional and not in here.
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post Dec 24 2024, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(whphon @ Dec 24 2024, 12:22 PM)
Your PIP is align with your job scope
Malaysia labor law is not able to protect you if documentation is not proper
When company issue PIP, you better consult profesional and not in here.
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I work in sg
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post Dec 24 2024, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Dec 24 2024, 12:13 PM)
Then bro find other grass liao, I also went through what you kena except my boss belum start PIP.

Day in day out keep telling me I will fail my probation, keep give me task that impossible for me.

Once I feel kena this, I sudah start looking for job. Not much can do just accept roll wrong dice this time. Learn something from this problem ba
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Just politics issue at here.



Never mind,I will roll correct dice this time....



This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Dec 28 2024, 09:20 PM
NinG
post Dec 24 2024, 12:51 PM

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I've been through. Also straight email for PIP punishment.

If nobody tell you anything, I guess you're safe, sometimes for show only.

Still need to follow up get a confirmation you no longer under PIP.

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post Dec 24 2024, 12:54 PM

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I wont write so much in emailer. Just date when you start the PIP, end date. The latest status, thats it.


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