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post Dec 25 2024, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Dec 25 2024, 06:42 AM)
Well u can ask lor what part not meet ?
Normally if they go through pip mean they already document everything , they set the conditions, if u don’t pass the condition Ofcos no pass lor and u don’t pass it .. hard for the judge to side to u and pay u in court on later date if u decide to sue .
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Aiya,all the IPP is just want to get rid of some staff only....



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post Dec 26 2024, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(lkyoong @ Aug 30 2024, 03:42 PM)
From my exp when kena PIP means they already target you. Just a matter of time.

Normally when PIP happens, they hope you will just resign then management happy. No need pay compensation.

Better start looking for new job because even if PIP pass, they will still find fault from somewhere else.
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Now I have some colleagues who want to know the details of my next job. What should I tell them?


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Where are you going?


Option 1 (General): "I’ve received a couple of offers and am finalizing my decision. It’s a better fit for my long-term goals.



Option 2 (Specific): "I’ve decided to go for a role with more stable hours/day shifts to better balance my personal life."


If you prefer not to disclose much:

"I’ll share more once everything is confirmed.



2. Will your next work be rotating or day shift?

If you’ve decided on day shifts: "It’s a day shift job, which suits my current lifestyle better."


If unsure or want to stay vague: "I’m still finalizing the details, but I’m prioritizing a role with a more balanced schedule.


3. Why are you resigning?

If they ask why you’re leaving or about family matters:

I need to spend some time back in my hometown to handle family commitments.

"This decision is a mix of career growth and personal priorities.



4. What’s your new salary?

This is a tricky one. You can reply politely:

Option 1: "I haven’t finalized the details yet; my focus is on finding a role that fits my career goals."

Option 2: "It’s a fair increase, but I’m more excited about the opportunities this role offers."

If you don’t want to share at all: "It’s private, but I’m happy with the decision I’ve made.




Like this can?
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post Dec 26 2024, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Dec 25 2024, 06:42 AM)
Well u can ask lor what part not meet ?
Normally if they go through pip mean they already document everything , they set the conditions, if u don’t pass the condition Ofcos no pass lor and u don’t pass it .. hard for the judge to side to u and pay u in court on later date if u decide to sue .
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ya this is valid. sales target izzit?
what kpi do they set & how do you score?
is it measurable?
TSplouffle0789
post Dec 26 2024, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(vaksin @ Dec 24 2024, 02:00 PM)
just wait for the termination letter, then don't sign.
or sign with a remark protest.
after that go find a lawyer to fight this case for you if can...
you can get up to 24 months' compensation if unlawful termination.
singapore more less the same.
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Some of my colleagues frequently speak badly about me.

But I think I'll just send this message to all known colleagues through WhatsApp...


do you do this?

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Dear [Colleague's Name],

I am truly grateful for your support and teamwork during my time at [Company Name]. It has been a pleasure collaborating with you, and I sincerely appreciate all the advice, assistance, and insights you've shared with me.

I would love to keep in contact, and I wish you continued success in all your future endeavors.
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post Dec 27 2024, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 26 2024, 11:42 PM)
Some of my colleagues frequently speak badly about me.

But I think I'll just send this message to all known colleagues through WhatsApp...
do you do this?
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Yes, just play nice.
don't make enemy.
unless they want to be your enemy.

some ppl like to look down on ppl, just to make them feel better.
ignore them, one day, karma will come to them.
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post Dec 27 2024, 08:11 AM

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only the single ah moi
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post Dec 27 2024, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Aug 30 2024, 02:35 PM)
Some of my colleagues frequently speak badly about me.

But I think I'll just send this message to all known colleagues through WhatsApp...
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In life, there will always be doubters.

Just do your best. For me, my one boss is God. I do the best for him. He knows my performance and will reward my rezeki accordingly.

I am used to these doubters, at end of day, I am satisfied with my work.

Some ex colleague tried to headhunt me to other co.

it depends on the industry you work in.

For eg, my father, throughout his whole working life, never had to apply for jobs.

he was introduced by ex colleagues from one co to another.

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post Dec 27 2024, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Aug 30 2024, 03:35 PM)
Any severance paid after failing PIP?

Or that's what mnc do to fire staffs without compensation?
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Claim ownself EIS only.

Severance package only if they want to fire you without going through PIP and usually it's "resignation"

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post Dec 27 2024, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Porkycorgi5588 @ Dec 27 2024, 09:03 AM)
Claim ownself EIS only.

Severance package only if they want to fire you without going through PIP and usually it's "resignation"
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If the company wants to let you go without going through the Performance Improvement Plan (PIP), they usually offer a severance package, but it's typically under the guise of a "resignation." As for claiming EIS (Employment Insurance System) yourself, it can only be done if you voluntarily resign.



malaysia have such things?

EIS (Employment Insurance System)

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post Dec 27 2024, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(NinG @ Dec 24 2024, 05:31 PM)
Pharmaceutical

What's the reason they PIP you at the first place? 🤔

Anyway it's okay, passed liao uncle.. you just need to follow up. If nobody shits to reply u..means you're fine. Show saja..
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hi sis! mind to know or PM me which Pharmaceutical company is that?

I'm working in Pharmaceutical company too
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post Dec 27 2024, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 27 2024, 09:55 AM)
malaysia have such things?

EIS (Employment Insurance System)
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check your payslip.

we've been paying EIS since at least 2016 If i recalled correctly
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post Dec 27 2024, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Porkycorgi5588 @ Dec 27 2024, 10:28 AM)
check your payslip.

we've been paying EIS since at least 2016 If i recalled correctly
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actually I work at sg.

thanks for your advice...



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post Dec 27 2024, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(titanz @ Dec 27 2024, 09:56 AM)
hi sis! mind to know or PM me which Pharmaceutical company is that?

I'm working in Pharmaceutical company too
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Hello.. thank you for your interest.. but I just wanna enjoy my nbtd time in /k... no job related.. We rotten the company name inside our tummy saja k.
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post Dec 27 2024, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 23 2024, 08:26 PM)
Now, I need to accumulate all work materials and notes to pass the next interview and secure a good job.

I received an improvement performance plan, but it's not an issue. I have a lot of savings, and I am a PR.

I should not feel sad. It's the political work culture, and I cannot let myself feel sad.

Being sad and angry will not help with these issues.
It sounds like you're going through a challenging situation, but it's great that you have a strong mindset to overcome it.
It's normal to feel a bit down when faced with setbacks, but as you've rightly pointed out, negative emotions like sadness and anger won't help you move forward.
Instead, focusing on what you can control, like preparing for the interview and building on your strengths, will be more productive.
A few strategies to help:

Stay Goal-Oriented: Keep your eyes on the bigger picture—securing a good job. This will help you stay motivated and remind you of your long-term goals.
Use Your Strengths:

You’ve mentioned having a lot of savings and being a PR, which are strengths.

Leverage these advantages when evaluating opportunities, and consider how they can help you make a fresh start if needed.
Focus on Preparation:

Take your time to accumulate work materials and notes for the interview.

Being prepared and feeling confident in your abilities can help reduce anxiety.
Balance Emotional Health:

It's important to acknowledge your feelings but not let them control your actions. Take time for activities that make you feel good—whether it's exercise, hobbies, or spending time with loved ones.
Learn from the Situation:
If the performance improvement plan feels daunting, try to identify areas where you can grow.

This will not only improve your chances of passing future performance reviews but also enhance your professional development.
Ultimately, remember that setbacks are often temporary.

With your savings and PR status, you have the foundation to move forward confidently.
Keep pushing toward your goals, and you'll be well on your way to success!
I think I will recover in 3 days......
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y ts kena pip but offer advice to to self
ini soalan ke cadangan?
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post Dec 28 2024, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(faridr @ Aug 30 2024, 08:47 PM)
Well, you will still need to sign it, without your signature, they cant put you under PIP. But only applicable to MNC.
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post Dec 28 2024, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(supsupsui @ Aug 30 2024, 06:39 PM)
Can. Show him improvemens/ good results.. Show boss u can be valuable to him/ company.
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ABC Company serves as a contractor for a USA-based MNC.

If any issues arise, the USA-based MNC may insist on the resignation of ABC Company staff, as ABC Company heavily relies on this client for its livelihood.

Sacrificing its staff is considered a more acceptable option than jeopardizing the relationship with such a crucial client—the USA-based MNC.


ABC公司是一家为美国跨国公司(MNC)提供服务的承包商。

如果出现任何问题,美国跨国公司会要求ABC公司的员工辞职,因为ABC公司在很大程度上依赖这位大客户来维持生计。

相比冒着失去这个重要客户——美国跨国公司(MNC)的风险,ABC公司更倾向于牺牲自己的员工。

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post Dec 28 2024, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(IamBlind @ Nov 27 2024, 12:50 PM)
If they no call you in for meeting, meaning you did ok and you get to keep your current job, if they extend its a clear sign they want you to leave on your own. Now you may have the boasting rights, you sit in PIP and beat the PIP.
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but now they said I failed it......

crazy company...
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post Dec 28 2024, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Dec 25 2024, 06:42 AM)
Well u can ask lor what part not meet ?
Normally if they go through pip mean they already document everything , they set the conditions, if u don’t pass the condition Ofcos no pass lor and u don’t pass it .. hard for the judge to side to u and pay u in court on later date if u decide to sue .
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The Performance Improvement Plan (PIP) 5-Step Process:

1)Assess and Identify Issues

Evaluate the employee's performance to identify specific areas of underperformance through data, assessments, and feedback.

2)Set Clear Improvement Goals

Establish clear, measurable, and achievable performance goals that align with company objectives.

3)Create an Improvement Plan and Provide Support

Develop a tailored improvement plan with the necessary resources, training, and support to help the employee meet the set goals.

4)Monitor and Evaluate Progress Regularly

Track the employee's progress toward the goals through regular check-ins and provide feedback as needed.

5)Final Evaluation and Conclusion

At the end of the PIP period, assess the employee’s performance to determine whether the goals have been achieved and decide on the next steps, such as role adjustments or termination.





Contrary to the company's intention of improving employee performance, more and more employees view PIP as the

"prelude to layoffs"

or a "nicer way of notifying them before termination.




my company skip step 3,and step 4

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post Dec 29 2024, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 28 2024, 09:21 PM)
but now they said I failed it......

crazy company...
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apa lagi after cny jump to new company. this company not worth your time.
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from my own experience after i resign, the "friends" usually malas to layan you if you chat with them..
and that friend also the that keep racun you to resign actually stays happy go ucky in the company.
I just take it as a life lesson. True friends are the one that actually keep stopping you from resigning until your last day at job

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