[COMPLAINT] Ajul @ ZUl Qais, under-cut here and there.
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[COMPLAINT] Ajul @ ZUl Qais, under-cut here and there.
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Aug 10 2008, 02:15 PM
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129 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: Atok Ulabanik |
this fella aaa i tell you.. he has no sense of respect to his customers / potential customers. i was asking politely if the price of his laptops could be lowered a bit, he then replied 'weh, aku x untung banyak, ko yang dapat untung banyak beli dari aku. baik aku jual direct kat regular customer je!!! bla,bla,bla'. sumbody give him a dispute tag or at least a warning tag. how the hell is he going to survive doing his business with such a 'splendour ettiquette'. He is tarnishing the LY.net forum and i dont think he should sell his stuff here. he should go sell it to his 'direct customers'.
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Aug 11 2008, 07:25 PM
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1,258 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Depan PC |
QUOTE(iRonTech @ Jul 30 2008, 08:57 PM) you can hit pls follow the buyer statement.. to make complaint, MOD will help up clean up your thread & warning may given to those joker.after being read through 7 pages, i really wondering since when Hewlett Packard (M) Sdn Bhd recognize those "parallel import product a.k.a refurbished" as valid local warranty as seller still dare to confuse buyer at #68 statement. [attachmentid=441261] #70 <-- Hewlett Packard (M) Sdn Bhd has advertised this quite often to make acknowledgment what's about parallel import product mean its big different brand new vs refurbished unit in term of quality,pricing,warranty. Seller must emphasize this part clearly although price wise different, buy or not, is up to customers but not to cheat & confuse customers!! seller is disgrace. p/s: ajul, the ID registered date doesn't represent you're senior or newbie seller. before he buy this item from me..he already ask HP for model n price..then why he still want buy from me even he can get direct from HP? if i want to cheat buyer..why i told him this item not cover by HP malaysia and cover by AP company warranty? n why he still want buy from me after he know all the thing? n why he dont give back my item for full refund within 3days after he know he already buy wrong model? u ask urself.. note : he never ask for full refund..he just ask for change to other model and we already agree if i pay him some refund for him to get a webcam..thats all! Added on August 11, 2008, 7:27 pm QUOTE(uglytwinkle @ Nov 3 2007, 01:16 PM) To me inĀ business, if you sell something, and the product has warranty, the salesman must settle every single things and take them all into account. This post has been edited by ajul: Aug 11 2008, 07:34 PMThen, I called Keypoints which is his suppler. I called to send the warranty card to my office. How come from Imbi Plaza to KLCC it takes about 2 weeks for delivery?I tried to called the guy[keypoint people] again, but he wasnt there. The conclusion from this problem: Warranty must be handled by customer, Extended warranty covered by LOCAL warranty which is not mentioned and takes more than 1 month to deliver warranty card.[/spoiler] 4) Price is same like retailers If you see the attachment above, he said his price is much MUCH MUCH MOTHERF**Ker cheaper than model in Malaysia. I asked HP about the model and spec. HP told me the model is sold in malaysia.Not just US. |
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Aug 11 2008, 08:52 PM
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8,621 posts Joined: Nov 2004 |
QUOTE(ajul @ Aug 11 2008, 07:25 PM) pls follow the buyer statement.. please read it properly what i've written about. I'm talking about the Refurbished vs Hewlett Packard (M) Sdn Bhd local warranty.before he buy this item from me..he already ask HP for model n price..then why he still want buy from me even he can get direct from HP? if i want to cheat buyer..why i told him this item not cover by HP malaysia and cover by AP company warranty? n why he still want buy from me after he know all the thing? n why he dont give back my item for full refund within 3days after he know he already buy wrong model? u ask urself.. note : he never ask for full refund..he just ask for change to other model and we already agree if i pay him some refund for him to get a webcam..thats all! Added on August 11, 2008, 7:27 pm If you still insist Refurbished Hewlett Packard laptop could claim warranty by Hewlett Packard (M) Sdn Bhd by FOC, prove it to me, I might make mistake too on this part. just in case you've forgotten what you've posted before, I can remind you here:- » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Aug 11 2008, 11:17 PM
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187 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: shah alam, bangi, alor gajah, |
mod,, juz give the 'polite' and 'kind seller ' ajul a leave.. very2 rude seller..
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Aug 12 2008, 12:19 AM
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77 posts Joined: Jul 2008 |
QUOTE(iRonTech @ Aug 11 2008, 08:52 PM) please read it properly what i've written about. I'm talking about the Refurbished vs Hewlett Packard (M) Sdn Bhd local warranty. refurbished HP notebooks either consumer or commercial will not have any warranty for HP MY as part numbers will be different. most of the refurbished notebooks either HP/toshiba/dell come from the US market and all of the models numbering from the other regions are different AND most or almost all of the notebooks are covered by local warranty only. to be able for warranty in malaysia the units must If you still insist Refurbished Hewlett Packard laptop could claim warranty by Hewlett Packard (M) Sdn Bhd by FOC, prove it to me, I might make mistake too on this part. just in case you've forgotten what you've posted before, I can remind you here:- » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1) have international warranty 2) part numbers must be the same as the local to your question, HP MY will not entertain any claims for refurbished notebooks in malaysia. HP MY can track the serial numbers of the foreign machine and trace back to the buyers and will take action to the reseller that selling parallel import machine. what kind of actions? it depends either it's legal or not. reseller with HP partnership caught selling parallel units will have their partnership revoked. so people, buy wisely. just get these notebooks from the store. you are saving like prolly 20% but messed up prolly a year or 3 years warranty cuz some dude wanna earn a fast bucks? that's not a good investment at all. Invest for the real deal. that's my 2 cent for u lots. wow. my brain still work after 12am. impressive for me. p/s : i like my avatar Added on August 12, 2008, 12:24 am QUOTE(ajul @ Apr 11 2008, 05:24 PM) some of my supporter : let's see if you can get HP to warranty these so called refurbished notebooks locally. do that, i seriously wanna see that happen good buyer also...always make me on a trouble all a day... Added on April 12, 2008, 12:47 amHow are refurbished computers manufactured? Stringent guidelines are followed. All units are brought up to fully functional condition, with defective parts replaced by working parts. Scratches and abrasions cannot exceed one inch on primary viewing plane. Refurbished business products go through two quality control checks before being re-boxed for sale to ensure high reliability. Where do refurbished computers come from? Refurbished computers are not used computers that have been in use over a long period of time. Most are cancelled orders and customer return units, others are overstocks, evaluation units, cosmetically blemished products and older discontinued products. Refurbished products are tested and if necessary, non-working components are replaced with working parts to bring the product up to fully functional condition. What is your return policy? Customers who wish to return product are required to obtain a Return Goods Authorization (RGA) by contacting the HP Business Outlet at 1-800-658-1131. RGA's must be requested within 10 days of product delivery date. In most cases, shipping costs for returning product back to HP will be paid by the customer; final determination will be based on the reason for the return. Original shipping and handling charges also may not be refunded to the customer; final determination is based on the reason for the return. To avoid delays in receiving your refund, please read our complete Return Guidelines. Do you offer a warranty? Refurbished products purchased from HP come with complete HP warranty, service and support. The level of service and duration varies depending on the model. Generally speaking, refurbished business notebooks, desktops, workstations, tablet PCs, thin clients and corresponding options come with a one-year limited warranty, while refurbished handhelds vary by model with either a one-year or 90-day limited warranty. Details of these limited warranties can be found in the chart below. Limited Warranty Period* The Limited Warranty Period for a refurbished HP Hardware Product is a specified, fixed period commencing on the date of purchase. The date on your sales receipt is the date of purchase unless HP informs you otherwise. Refurbished business PCs and options Limited warranty service Response time** Desktops 1 year Parts 1 year Labor 1 year On Site Next business day Thin Clients 1 year Parts Only Standard turn around Personal Workstations 1 year Parts 1 year Labor 1 year On Site Next business day Notebooks 1 year Parts 1 year Labor 1 year Carry-In Two business day Handhelds Same as New Same as New Options 1 year Parts only Standard turn around Monitors 1 year Parts only Standard turn around Can I upgrade my warranty coverage? The limited warranty for refurbished desktops, workstations, notebooks, handhelds and thin clients can be upgraded by purchasing an HP Care Pack that extends your hardware coverage from one year to three years and includes service enhancements like pick-up and return services and next business day response time (depending on package). HP Care Pack Services are intended for machines used for business, rather than consumer, family or household purposes. reference : http://www.hp.com/sbso/buspurchase_refurbished_faq.html i would suggest u print the statement out and bring it to them too This post has been edited by jaybee: Aug 12 2008, 12:24 AM |
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Aug 15 2008, 04:01 PM
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188 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Between Two Hills |
Based on this "jacka**" statements:
QUOTE before he buy this item from me..he already ask HP for model n price..then why he still want buy from me even he can get direct from HP? Ini aku check after aku beli dari ko....then found ko TIPU CUSTOMER....cakap barang murah..tapi harga SAMA.. QUOTE if i want to cheat buyer..why i told him this item not cover by HP malaysia and cover by AP company warranty? n why he still want buy from me after he know all the thing? EXCUSE ME...... Ko ada bagitau aku masa aku nak buat payment?ada ke?ko bagitau aku after aku dah amik laptop...Ada ko bagitau warranty 3 tahun aku beli tuh tak cover HP?Ko ni nyanyuk ke bengap? Aku DAH BELI BARU KO CAKAP. PASTU KO BARU EDIT THREAD ko. APA kes lu ni bro? QUOTE n why he dont give back my item for full refund within 3days after he know he already buy wrong model? u ask urself..note : he never ask for full refund..he just ask for change to other model and we already agree if i pay him some refund for him to get a webcam..thats all! ini lagi satu statement b*ngang ko. Aku ada minta refund...ko cakap apa? Ko tak boleh kan refund?Ko ingat tak?Ko cakap sebab aku dah terima laptop tuh dan juga ko dah try nak inform aku [walaupun padahal aku tak dapat pon information tuh] I had been blame in this situation. FYI, this jacka$$ DID NOT want to allow me to refund...He said " Ko dah ambil laptop, kira ko dah agree"[aku cabar ko jumpa aku face to face kita sumpah depan QURAN nak? ] Then, after a few months, then he said " After meantime, then he found out the things that he sold were refurbished. tapi apsal kepala and mulut ko berat sangat nak bagitau aku leh refund walaupun 7 bulan dah beli dari ko? Ko ni sepupu sepapat Saiful Bukhari ke? Ko ni memang su*kA$$ la beb~ Tau hidup mau senang...Kepala BATU .... To ALL RESPECTFUL LYN READERs, please read from the 1st page that I have posted... You can judge who made a mistake here. He undercut here and there. tells lie...and lie........... PLEASE. BOYCOTT Ajul... Last but not LEAST... Lu PK la SendriK~ This post has been edited by uglytwinkle: Aug 15 2008, 04:04 PM |
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Aug 17 2008, 03:47 AM
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1,139 posts Joined: Aug 2006 |
Is this the same AJUL who sale macinstosh product? who display his pic on his avatar holding laptop?
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Aug 21 2008, 04:55 PM
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1,258 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Depan PC |
hello kwn..waktu hang call HP tu nape xtanye warranty..then about refurbish or price..??setahu aku HP sendiri maklumkan kat hang yang laptop tu ada warranty cume warranty dia dah start from jun instict of oktober (time u buy that laptop)..
if my price is same with hp selling price..why not u buy at hp? that model ur buying not same as Hp malaysia model..the price also different too much around rm2k..u compare same model n specification from other seller that same source from mine..i tell u the true story.. its ur time to do research first b4 buy anything rite? but u still pressure me to get the item asap.. n u can ask anything when buy or before buy or after buy n take profit from that? u never ask before buying..u just want that item asap.. u think all seller will tell all thing when buyer not asking?im not robot..but if u ask..then i will answer as i know..thats true..n u can ask all my other buyer that buy from me..dont ask people that dont buy anything from me..(bcoz some of them just to provoke and mybe my competitor to make me down).. only u not happy when dealing with me..got 99.9% other buyer happy dealing with me..for me its normal in business ..but it make me more better now..i already say sorry to u many2 times..then its up to u.. conclusion of the story..make it clear first b4 buying..not after buying. n pls..pls..i never force u to buy anything from me...after u make its clear b4 buying..its up to u want buy or not.. if i got bad attitude..u all will never see my sale will expand n my other buyer will come back again..u all just see my track record of dealing online will expand and expand.. just check frequently..at lowyat.net or lelong.com..almost of them also not included in that list..too many n too bizi.. im still here to give more choice to buyer..n to help some of u to get cheap item compare to other.. note : buyer also can check my word when reply ..n compare with this kind buyer word..sometime when u reply with "temper" word..u must check the root of statement.. for me its normal for human..thats all This post has been edited by ajul: Aug 21 2008, 05:17 PM |
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Aug 22 2008, 03:56 PM
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54 posts Joined: Nov 2004 |
@Raymond
Yes he is the guy! Take note : my previous post on confirming Raymond that's the person is being removed. Why? A few cynical jokes not allowed? But forum molester like ajul yes? |
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Aug 29 2008, 12:22 AM
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85 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
problematic seller =.=! so many ppl give bad rating about him in this forum.
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Aug 29 2008, 08:35 AM
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8,621 posts Joined: Nov 2004 |
Ajul still didn't answer & rectify #143, #145 question
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Aug 29 2008, 10:37 AM
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10,429 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
the question now is show this seller ajul be given a dispute tag. After all, he is not really conning people. He is just being rude to some of his potential customers and selling parallel imported goods.
I don't know about you guys but when an item is cheaper than outside market, there must be a reason. The world is so competitive nowadays that overselling will not work anymore. All the prices out there would be already in it's very low. So, when something suddenly being sold very cheap, there must be a reason. So, please do your own research properly before jumping into it. At least if you do get conned after that, at least you know you have done all you can to research on that product or seller. |
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Sep 1 2008, 11:47 PM
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1,651 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
QUOTE(ajul @ Aug 21 2008, 04:55 PM) i LOLed at this!!! QUOTE(ajul @ Aug 21 2008, 04:55 PM) note : buyer also can check my word when reply ..n compare with this kind buyer word..sometime when u reply with "temper" word..u must check the root of statement.. for me its normal for human..thats all at least he deserved a dispute tag. |
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Sep 3 2008, 01:12 AM
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920 posts Joined: Jun 2007 From: Somewhere in Malaysia |
QUOTE(ajul @ Aug 21 2008, 04:55 PM) u think all seller will tell all thing when buyer not asking?im not robot..but if u ask..then i will answer as i know..thats true..n u can ask all my other buyer that buy from me..dont ask people that dont buy anything from me..(bcoz some of them just to provoke and mybe my competitor to make me down).. i think seller that have attitude like you will not tell any information about the laptop to customers. n seriously u"ajul" got really bad attitude as seller. This post has been edited by Axell: Sep 3 2008, 01:20 AM |
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Sep 5 2008, 05:32 AM
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8 posts Joined: Apr 2006 |
please allows me to share one of my friend's experience with ajul..
he wanted to get one unit of macbook air from ajul so he texted AJUL.it sounds something like this. my friend:hey,i wanna enquire about macbook air 1.6ghz. can u give me the best price? ajul: thats the best price already bro my friend:if you can give me a little bit more discount,i probably will be taking few more units from you .so can give a bit of discount? ajul replied back in a pretty rude way.my friend got fed up and straight away went to Machines and purchased. ..................................................................................... to be very frank,i dont care how many laptops he has sold in LYN. the way he treat people is really not acceptable. but to be fair to ajul,i SMS him yday to ask for macbook pro and he replied me in a OK manner. |
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Sep 8 2008, 12:07 AM
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2,889 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: Intranet & Internet |
ajul as a seller, please be responsible for what you're doing. Buat malu melayu je ko berniaga macam ni. If someone ask you what lappy model you have or they request you the things that you didn't have please stop to teach that guy to choose the same specs like what you got la.. Suka hati dia laaa nak apa pon... 17" screen, 20 or whatever it is.. it must be their own interest not you.... Macam ko je terer! Padahal tak seberapa pon! What ppl ask, just straight to the point tell them the truth behind it, don't make other sense to cheat ppl like you know everything and you give your own statement that never stated on the warranty. Don't talk like rubbish!! Orang nak berniaga kita nak berniaga, tapi sistem tak betul. Learn first la how to make a business and find out first la what's customer rights!!! Don't ever think if you have buyer out there that you can make anything suit yourself to bluff them around! Understood??!!
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Sep 12 2008, 10:33 AM
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770 posts Joined: Oct 2005 |
look like the admin/mod or enforcer is avoiding this case.. hemm...
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Sep 12 2008, 11:41 PM
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1,476 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Hong Kong |
QUOTE(neonfanatics @ Sep 5 2008, 05:32 AM) please allows me to share one of my friend's experience with ajul.. Sometimes buyers got to understand the profit margin is kinda slim... like RM50 each..he wanted to get one unit of macbook air from ajul so he texted AJUL.it sounds something like this. my friend:hey,i wanna enquire about macbook air 1.6ghz. can u give me the best price? ajul: thats the best price already bro my friend:if you can give me a little bit more discount,i probably will be taking few more units from you .so can give a bit of discount? ajul replied back in a pretty rude way.my friend got fed up and straight away went to Machines and purchased. ..................................................................................... to be very frank,i dont care how many laptops he has sold in LYN. the way he treat people is really not acceptable. but to be fair to ajul,i SMS him yday to ask for macbook pro and he replied me in a OK manner. This is not like roti canai, profit 100% or more... To prevent argument (and also waste $ on texting), I myself also selectively reply sms cos some of the buyers bargained in a rude way.... |
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Sep 13 2008, 04:13 PM
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4,928 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: /K/opitiam Pak Hang Status: Permaban |
hurm, i still confuse whether ajul is really bad or he just bad to certain people?
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Sep 15 2008, 11:39 PM
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83 posts Joined: Jun 2007 |
During June 2007, when I saw the person 'as mention' here selling HP laptops, I discovered that the HP that he is selling is not cover warranty under HP Malaysia and HP (US) only provide 90 days warranty from the date of sale, so I did remind the buyers to be careful when buying and asked the seller some after-sales-service's questions till the person involved get pissed off, and less than 3 hours, he sent me a PM, with the title "warning"
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