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 Incel should be classified as a disability, not myth | proposal of framework

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post Jul 18 2024, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 05:40 PM)
This is a common notion used to slander incels

Did you read my 3.2? Which part of it imply holding women at gunpoint to give us romantic gratification?

Analogies:
Freedom to walk is a basic right, immobile oku can’t walk, society can’t make them walk thus offer OTHER FORMS of support, such as convenience parking spot, bigger spaces

Access to job opportunities is a basic right, autistic people can’t meet expectation of social competence in typical workplace, society can’t make autistic people competent socially thus offer OTHER FORMS of support, such as specialised workplace where the neuro atypical can adapt to.

Romantic gratification is a basic right, incels can’t get any, society CANNOT GIVE them romantic gratification but can offer OTHER FORMS of support, such as a special working environment where the the incels are not subjected to the same stress level, or substitute romantic gratification with access to certain drugs and recreation activities
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Doesn't sound right either.
Just go pickup online gaming. You will lose interest in romance eventually
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post Jul 18 2024, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 17 2024, 08:36 AM)
I couldn’t think of other ways to simplify

I legit believe in this cause therefore I consolidate all the knowledge i have to form this article, such knowledge often necessitate the use of ‘buzzword’.
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I'd suggest spending all that time and effort into self improvement instead of justifying tongkat rights

You seem to have spent hours upon hours reading, writing and arguing about all these rights but never talk about the treatment. Eg. learning how to talk to or attract opposite sex
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post Jul 18 2024, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jul 18 2024, 05:43 PM)
Doesn't sound right either.
Just go pickup online gaming. You will lose interest in romance eventually
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It is likely due to issue with your comprehension. The logic is fairly easy to grasp , perhaps you are just not used to comprehending novel concepts


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post Jul 18 2024, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Jul 18 2024, 05:46 PM)
I'd suggest spending all that time and effort into self improvement instead of justifying tongkat rights

You seem to have spent hours upon hours reading, writing and arguing about all these rights but never talk about the treatment. Eg. learning how to talk to or attract opposite sex
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I believe i work harder than most people, I attended grad school while working abroad, in stem field, my income is t20, 16 hours of my weekday is spent on work and commute, 8 hours on sleep, half of my weekends on studies

Read my chapter 3, I did propose treatment for stage 1-3 incel, treatment details could be anything, I leave it to professionals. What people dispute is the existence of stage 4 incel which is terminal loss of reproductive right, from what I consolidated, they exist because with evolution there is natural selection, thus zero sum game, thus losers of the game

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post Jul 18 2024, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 06:20 PM)
I believe i work harder than most people, I attended grad school while working abroad, in stem field, my income is t20, 16 hours of my weekday is spent on work and commute, 8 hours on sleep, half of my weekends on studies

Read my chapter 3, I did propose treatment for stage 1-3 incel, treatment details could be anything, I leave it to professionals. What people dispute is the existence of stage 4 incel which is terminal loss of reproductive right, from what I consolidated, they exist because with evolution there is natural selection, thus zero sum game, thus losers of the game
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Again writing long long about irrelevant efforts. Seems you do have a disability but incel isn't it. You even get the definition of incel wrong due to this disability.

You can direct me to read your chapter 3 but you have not once mentioned your steps taken to self-treat according to that chapter.
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post Jul 18 2024, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 06:20 PM)
I believe i work harder than most people, I attended grad school while working abroad, in stem field, my income is t20, 16 hours of my weekday is spent on work and commute, 8 hours on sleep, half of my weekends on studies

Read my chapter 3, I did propose treatment for stage 1-3 incel, treatment details could be anything, I leave it to professionals. What people dispute is the existence of stage 4 incel which is terminal loss of reproductive right, from what I consolidated, they exist because with evolution there is natural selection, thus zero sum game, thus losers of the game
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You've just proven everyone here right. Spent all the time working studying and none allocated for social activities

You've just handicap yourself

Go spend your T20 salary on weed. Or maybe you already have
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post Jul 18 2024, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Jul 18 2024, 06:30 PM)
Again writing long long about irrelevant efforts. Seems you do have a disability but incel isn't it. You even get the definition of incel wrong due to this disability.

You can direct me to read your chapter 3 but you have not once mentioned your steps taken to self-treat according to that chapter.
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You seem to have misunderstood my article, it is a thought-provoking advocacy for the extension of compassionate efforts toward incel, not a treatment guideline, the guideline should be produced by evolutionary psychologist/biologist
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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 04:12 PM)
You are losing me, what do they have to do with anything?

Successful as in? Finding date? 61% of all single men were invontarily single, they wouldn’t being single if they could find a date. The rest of the study were irrelevant, mostly about violence tendency

The parameters of cancer patients is irrelevant here, I was simply applying the framework of typical medical diagnosis on determining incelism. First indicators from blood tests (in the case of incel, dating apps elo score), followed by physical examination such as ultrasound (in the case of incel, evaluation by registered consultant, I recommend evolutionary psychologist or biologist)

In what way im cherry picking
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In what way im cherry picking

Successful as in? Finding date? 61% of all single men were invontarily single, they wouldn’t being single if they could find a date. The rest of the study were irrelevant, mostly about violence tendency


Picking one particular part of a study that's mostly irrelevant to support your notion

That's Cherry picking.

Now I'm curious to see the context of the study and population sample and how you deem it to be statistically significant to be representative

Link pls

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Reading this TS go on long pseudointellectual rants just made me realise why he can't get any bitches. This guy is so full of himself thinking he's the incel Ted Kaczynski here to publish his magnum opus "The Incel Society and Its Future" If you brought him to a doctor, he'd probably think that TS had hydrocephalus with such a huge head to store that ego

If you spent half as much time going out to see bitches as you do jerking yourself off with this manuscript bs, you might even find someone who can stand being around you for 5 minutes.

You're telling me someone working in SG and is T20 but he struggles to find bitches? You best lower your expectations or try a whole lot harder than uploading a mugshot on TanTan doh.gif
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post Jul 18 2024, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 06:41 PM)
You seem to have misunderstood my article, it is a thought-provoking advocacy for the extension of compassionate efforts toward incel, not a treatment guideline, the guideline should be produced by evolutionary psychologist/biologist
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And you misunderstand how life works. Instead of learning how to fit into a normal life you start demanding tongkats masked as "compassionate efforts"

Again, spend all that time and effort into learning how to fit into society instead of typing away online and spiraling downward into loneliness. You basically described 24/7 week of being alone and 0 minutes of socialising with people.

QUOTE(grape sunset @ Jul 18 2024, 06:45 PM)
Reading this TS go on long pseudointellectual rants just made me realise why he can't get any bitches. This guy is so full of himself thinking he's the incel Ted Kaczynski here to publish his magnum opus "The Incel Society and Its Future" If you brought him to a doctor, he'd probably think that TS had hydrocephalus with such a huge head to store that ego

If you spent half as much time going out to see bitches as you do jerking yourself off with this manuscript bs, you might even find someone who can stand being around you for 5 minutes.

You're telling me someone working in SG and is T20 but he struggles to find bitches? You best lower your expectations or try a whole lot harder than uploading a mugshot on TanTan doh.gif
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The guy doesn't even meet other humans in his lifestyle. Don't even start about bitches.

So much money yet can't attract even gold diggers. He loves his keyboard too much it seems.

QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 06:20 PM)
16 hours of my weekday is spent on work and commute, 8 hours on sleep, half of my weekends on studies
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QUOTE(grape sunset @ Jul 18 2024, 06:45 PM)
Reading this TS go on long pseudointellectual rants just made me realise why he can't get any bitches. This guy is so full of himself thinking he's the incel Ted Kaczynski here to publish his magnum opus "The Incel Society and Its Future" If you brought him to a doctor, he'd probably think that TS had hydrocephalus with such a huge head to store that ego

If you spent half as much time going out to see bitches as you do jerking yourself off with this manuscript bs, you might even find someone who can stand being around you for 5 minutes.

You're telling me someone working in SG and is T20 but he struggles to find bitches? You best lower your expectations or try a whole lot harder than uploading a mugshot on TanTan doh.gif
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Don't la Tantan, full of scammers
Later he have to spend his T20 salary on b40 wine at T1 price
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QUOTE(grape sunset @ Jul 18 2024, 06:45 PM)
Reading this TS go on long pseudointellectual rants just made me realise why he can't get any bitches. This guy is so full of himself thinking he's the incel Ted Kaczynski here to publish his magnum opus "The Incel Society and Its Future" If you brought him to a doctor, he'd probably think that TS had hydrocephalus with such a huge head to store that ego

If you spent half as much time going out to see bitches as you do jerking yourself off with this manuscript bs, you might even find someone who can stand being around you for 5 minutes.

You're telling me someone working in SG and is T20 but he struggles to find bitches? You best lower your expectations or try a whole lot harder than uploading a mugshot on TanTan doh.gif
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I respect this insult, it better than the other ones

But It’s not a rant, it’s my hobby to write thought provoking articles, if I can choose any job I would become a socioeconomic journalist or researchers. I’m as puzzled as Jordan Peterson about how society attacks those appear to be ‘allies’ of incels, as if human society is a collective hive mind wired to reject toxins, it’s fascinating

I do go out with women

I’m pretty strategic with allocating resources in mate-seeking. So far the most significant investment I made were an expensive car, dating courses, dating agencies, the money went in vain




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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 07:20 PM)
I respect this insult, it better than the other ones

But It’s not a rant, it’s my hobby to write thought provoking articles, if I can choose any job I would become a socioeconomic journalist or researchers. I’m as puzzled as Jordan Peterson about how society attacks those appear to be ‘allies’ of incels, as if human society is a collective hive mind wired to reject toxins, it’s fascinating

I do go out with women

I’m pretty strategic with allocating resources in mate-seeking. So far the most significant investment I made were an expensive car, dating courses, dating agencies, the money went in vain
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If almost everyone rejects your idea, then maybe the idea isn't thought provoking at all. It's just silly.

People aren't attacking 'allies of incel' like it's rejecting a toxin, theyre rejecting someone who's saying they want a handout for being ugly and undesirable. I don't think the Virgin Revolution is going to come (lol) anytime soon.

Lay off 4chan and get to the gym.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jul 18 2024, 08:19 PM)
If almost everyone rejects your idea, then maybe the idea isn't thought provoking at all. It's just silly.

People aren't attacking 'allies of incel' like it's rejecting a toxin, theyre rejecting someone who's saying they want a handout for being ugly and undesirable. I don't think the Virgin Revolution is going to come (lol) anytime soon.

Lay off 4chan and get to the gym.
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Feel safe standing among the crowd huh, slavery was mainstream to, I don’t think you would be siding with the revolution if you were born in America that time

Initially I thought this is American culture against young men, apparently incel hate is human nature. Part of the reason I post was to find reasoning that would change my mind, gather a list of faq and find loophole, I’m dissapointed at the lack of logical dispute, I only saw insults after insults.




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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 08:45 PM)
Feel safe standing among the crowd huh, slavery was mainstream to, I don’t think you would be siding with the revolution if you were born in America that time

Initially I thought this is American culture against young men, apparently incel hate is human nature. Part of the reason I post was to find reasoning that would change my mind, gather a list of faq and find loophole, I’m dissapointed at the lack of logical dispute, I only saw insults after insults.
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People dont hate incels, we're all just apathetic to them - its not society's concern if you don't get laid. We have a thousand other things to care about more than whether your sexual desires are being met.

What people are shooting down is your unworkable idea. Is it an incel thing that they dont look at themselves as the source of problem and instead it's always the fault of others? Rather than spend millions creating artificial 'stress-free jobs' (what jobs are these), why don't incels take everyone's advice for them to just improve themselves?

You've been unconvincing in your argument, not addressed any of the issues brought up, and treated every critique as a personal insult.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jul 18 2024, 08:57 PM)
People dont hate incels, we're all just apathetic to them - its not society's concern if you don't get laid. We have a thousand other things to care about more than whether your sexual desires are being met.

What people are shooting down is your unworkable idea. Is it an incel thing that they dont look at themselves as the source of problem and instead it's always the fault of others? Rather than spend millions creating artificial 'stress-free jobs' (what jobs are these), why don't incels take everyone's advice for them to just improve themselves?

You've been unconvincing in your argument, not addressed any of the issues brought up, and treated every critique as a personal insult.
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Just like how nobody cared slave, made it okay to ignore the problem, took a revolution to change that. It’s not sex, the availability of sex industry failed to resolve incels resentment, the most accurate term I can think of is romantic gratification.

In what way we are blaming others, blaming OUR OWN genes is considered blaming others? I admit that this group is extremely vulnerable for radicalization as seen in the west, this is why I’m giving everybody a heads up. Look up Enabling Academy, they give autistic people high quality jobs, I proposed shielding high aptitude incels from unnecessary stress that could potentially cripple them due to the lack of coping mechanism, this ensure sustainable productive output and even value creation from incels instead of inhumanely pushing incels into suicide or radicalisation (it really is increasing in the west)

You have to be specific on which issue I failed to address, I replied to every single reply with 95% logic and 5% unavoidable emotion

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QUOTE(dlwk2004 @ Jul 17 2024, 09:36 AM)
Survival of the fittest and incels definitely not one of them and hence harder to continue their gene pool. i suggest just throw incels & femcels together and let them sort it out.
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I’m glad you agree.

However this is not the solution because dating someone you are not attracted to does not grant you romantic gratification
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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 07:20 PM)
I respect this insult, it better than the other ones

But It’s not a rant, it’s my hobby to write thought provoking articles, if I can choose any job I would become a socioeconomic journalist or researchers. I’m as puzzled as Jordan Peterson about how society attacks those appear to be ‘allies’ of incels, as if human society is a collective hive mind wired to reject toxins, it’s fascinating

I do go out with women

I’m pretty strategic with allocating resources in mate-seeking. So far the most significant investment I made were an expensive car, dating courses, dating agencies, the money went in vain
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Please don't put yourself on the same sentence as Jordan Peterson. I will not have you soil his name.
Maybe you are a try hard. Who are you trying to impress here with your so called intellectual arguments. If you're gonna speak like that on dates, your romantic chances are zero.

You remind me of a ktard called thedannyguy.
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QUOTE(k town shit @ Jul 17 2024, 02:10 PM)
Good work, keep it up!
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Thank you, put this on the news maybe?
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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 09:42 PM)
Thank you, put this on the news maybe?
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Where's the link to the studies who's stats you cite

I'd like to see what significant time spent studying and possibly researching can yield

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