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 Incel should be classified as a disability, not myth | proposal of framework

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post Jul 17 2024, 09:57 AM

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Or you can run a few marathons, join more social circles and get some friends to advise you what you need to improve.

No one wanting to bed you is not your problem. Making yourself unfuckable, that's your problem.
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post Jul 18 2024, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 07:20 PM)
I respect this insult, it better than the other ones

But It’s not a rant, it’s my hobby to write thought provoking articles, if I can choose any job I would become a socioeconomic journalist or researchers. I’m as puzzled as Jordan Peterson about how society attacks those appear to be ‘allies’ of incels, as if human society is a collective hive mind wired to reject toxins, it’s fascinating

I do go out with women

I’m pretty strategic with allocating resources in mate-seeking. So far the most significant investment I made were an expensive car, dating courses, dating agencies, the money went in vain
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If almost everyone rejects your idea, then maybe the idea isn't thought provoking at all. It's just silly.

People aren't attacking 'allies of incel' like it's rejecting a toxin, theyre rejecting someone who's saying they want a handout for being ugly and undesirable. I don't think the Virgin Revolution is going to come (lol) anytime soon.

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post Jul 18 2024, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 08:45 PM)
Feel safe standing among the crowd huh, slavery was mainstream to, I don’t think you would be siding with the revolution if you were born in America that time

Initially I thought this is American culture against young men, apparently incel hate is human nature. Part of the reason I post was to find reasoning that would change my mind, gather a list of faq and find loophole, I’m dissapointed at the lack of logical dispute, I only saw insults after insults.
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People dont hate incels, we're all just apathetic to them - its not society's concern if you don't get laid. We have a thousand other things to care about more than whether your sexual desires are being met.

What people are shooting down is your unworkable idea. Is it an incel thing that they dont look at themselves as the source of problem and instead it's always the fault of others? Rather than spend millions creating artificial 'stress-free jobs' (what jobs are these), why don't incels take everyone's advice for them to just improve themselves?

You've been unconvincing in your argument, not addressed any of the issues brought up, and treated every critique as a personal insult.
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post Jul 18 2024, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 18 2024, 09:11 PM)
Just like how nobody cared slave, made it okay to ignore the problem, took a revolution to change that. It’s not sex, the availability of sex industry failed to resolve incels resentment, the most accurate term I can think of is romantic gratification.

In what way we are blaming others, blaming OUR OWN genes is considered blaming others? I admit that this group is extremely vulnerable for radicalization as seen in the west, this is why I’m giving everybody a heads up. Look up Enabling Academy, they give autistic people high quality jobs, I proposed shielding high aptitude incels from unnecessary stress that could potentially cripple them due to the lack of coping mechanism, this ensure sustainable productive output and even value creation from incels instead of inhumanely pushing incels into suicide or radicalisation (it really is increasing in the west)

You have to be specific on which issue I failed to address, I replied to every single reply with 95% logic and 5% unavoidable emotion
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Let's say your genes are inferior, what do you really want?

By your own premise, you really should have no business contributing to the gene pool so your 'quest' toget a partner is self-contradictory. You want a partner, but you can't get one, so other people must give you benefits. At the same time, a productive incel (as you imply you are) would have the means to pursue their own 'palliative care'. Go buy your own anime bolster pillows.

And let's not play around, you want sex. The fact that you think that all women shouldve responded to your car kinda shows you view all of them similarly, and the fact that a romantic person would not have described themselves in terms of their celibacy.

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post Jul 19 2024, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 19 2024, 12:31 AM)
Your approach to dispute is there, but miscalculated

Personally I want a romantic partner I’m attracted to. We can’t obviously, therefore the thinking process shifts from what we want to what’s best for us given a set of limitation. To be honest, it probably need more investigation but i think I’m closed.

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This underscores the point about you wanting others to pay you for your failure to get laid


You are correct about our irrelevance from the gene pool, our quest for romantic partner remain there due to human instinct, there is something called ACT therapy that could help us cognitively move on but that would not resolve the lack of coping mechanism against life stress. Who says productive incels aren’t struggling? One of my earlier replies said some incels will power is strong enuf to keep them working hard but this is very hard to sustain without coping through romantic gratification, and is dangerous. The palliative care I proposed require legislation and more studies to actually determine what’s best for incel

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lack of coping mechanisms? its called getting a job and paying for whatever you wanted other taxpayers to buy you. if i get bored, i dont write a half-baked proposal for the govt to pay for my vacation.


Most incels want relationship not sex (this is documented).

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what document is this?


Regarding the car, I have never viewed all women this way, it was only my last resort, the car had been effective at making girls go out with me. I bought it before I understood the society and I underestimated how progressive women have become. I believe the dating marketplace is moving toward pure natural selection ever since the introduction of dating app, It will be more so with AI and universal basic income, imagine when no one needs to work or worries about livelihood, hardworking/having a bit more money have no edge anymore, women will look up to traits in accordance to evolutionary psychology, or talent or value creation instead of honest grunt work to feed the family

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none of the above disproves the point that you treat women as a homogenous stereotype. in fact, it heavily reinforces it.


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