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 The Retrievers V2, The Smartest Dog Ever !

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post Nov 14 2007, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(White Palace @ Nov 14 2007, 01:58 PM)
My Maya loves to eat cat poo poo! sweat.gif
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cat poo more smelly wor shakehead.gif

QUOTE(Alternation @ Nov 14 2007, 02:11 PM)
smartest? I think chow chow's smarter. They can be guard dog, rescue dog and pet dog. Almost complete! but ... they are have their mind of their own. Very hard to teach and stubborn, thats y you'll hardly come across a working chow chow. With proper training and discipline, they are the most complete dog.
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It is just a tagline put by the TS since we are retrievers owner, we would like to believe that our dog is the smartest tongue.gif, just like you as a chowchow lover believe that chowchow are the smartest. smile.gif
Actually the world smartest dog is a border collie.
Golden Retriever and Labrador Retriever are at #4 and #7 respectively. icon_rolleyes.gif

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FYI, the top 10 smartest dog is as follows:

#1 Border collie
#2 Poodle
#3 German Shepherd
#4 Golden Retriever
#5 Doberman
#6 Sheltand sheepdog
#7 Labrador Retriever
#8 Papillon
#9 Rottweiler
#10 Australian Cattle Dog

source: Top 10 smartest dog  cool2.gif 


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post Nov 15 2007, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(xXAaronXx @ Nov 14 2007, 10:06 PM)
Srry guys i am unable 2 post at the moment now having my SPM now srry. Wish me luck
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ooh, good luck on the exam yah smile.gif

QUOTE(simchi @ Nov 14 2007, 11:12 PM)
I am back ...Spent some spanking moments with Fala these few days . She still as manja as before ler .. I cant stop kissing her blush.gif
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hoho, how is fala lui?

QUOTE(sillysu @ Nov 14 2007, 11:20 PM)
wow.so much update.i cant reli post much thou.as my GR not with me now :'(
so miss him.

btw xXAaronXx, good luck for ur SPM.

went to MV this evening,saw a male GR in Pets Wonderland.Reli so cute.and he's oni bout 2months + coming to 3 months old.keep wanting sumone to play with him.too bad they din let him out to play.almost had the urge to go play with him.hahahaha
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oh, where is your GR now?

QUOTE(RedBox @ Nov 15 2007, 12:22 AM)
Nope... my SB's the smartest! tongue.gif tongue.gif
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tongue.gif tongue.gif but SB sure has a blur look on them though. You can never guess when they are up to some mischief, coz they look so blur and innocent.
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post Nov 16 2007, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(kokifung @ Nov 16 2007, 10:18 AM)
icic.. thz for all feedback..

erm.. i wandering all dog wat size ?

http://www.purina.com/dogs/health/AdultBodyCondChart.pdf

i think mine is ideal.. hope so..  laugh.gif
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mine is 28 kg the last time i weight him - the vet said the weight is ok. He is going to be 14 months soon smile.gif

QUOTE(BigBen @ Nov 16 2007, 10:55 AM)
hahah....  when my GR done something of course i will whack him not with stick or cane but with my hand, i don't use stick or cane i don't want him to afraid of stick or cane... sometime i paly paly with cane.
i tell you 1 funny joke... my GR done wrong
i take a small cane sit on my chair with angry face and say... ben come here... he come sit infront of me.. i say give me your hand ... he lift up his hand to me ...  i hold his hand and beat it with cane lightly (myself oledi laughing)... my wife saw it also laugh say like school student teaching..
when they wrong i will pull them to the place ask them to see i will say WHY .... NO... they face look guilty and i will comtinue until they don't do it.
My GR love play water especially after bath that day he still remember water in night rain come he will sleep there make himself wet so just clean again lo.. now raining come i will tie him up later he learn rain must come in and bath can play water hahaha...
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laugh.gif laugh.gif so funny.
My GR loves water too - and likes playing in the rain. We don't let him out when raining unless to do his business. Then I have to stand at the porch and jaga him so he won't run to the open area and play in the rain. sweat.gif
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post Nov 16 2007, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Nov 16 2007, 11:18 AM)
I think GRs have a universal love of water. My Chelsea ar... if bring her anywhere and she sees a puddle of water, she'll jump straight into it. Funny thing is that she don't really like baths tho - maybe coz we 'scrub' her too long.

What she loves is the ear cleaning and combing afterwards. laugh.gif
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shushu hate ear cleaning, want to clean his ears is like having a wrestling match with him. rclxub.gif
Combing still ok, everytime i take out his comb he will quickly grab his nylon bone and lay on the welcome mat so i can comb his fur while he is busily chewing his bone.
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post Nov 19 2007, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(kokifung @ Nov 17 2007, 08:42 PM)
laugh.gif  i understand now..
hmm.. my house dun have a cane wor..
but after get lecture from me, she seem do not dare to do again la..
ya.. Goldie loves the rain.. when rain comes.. she go outside and play wan..  rclxub.gif even after bath..
erm.. my Goldie bath how long also can.. after bath.. must run far far away wan.. if i also will get wet..  rclxub.gif
when i take the comb out.. the first few minute hard la.. then be easy.. she will guai guai down and let me comb her... even know how to turn when ask her to do so..
wat is scabies.. ?
today i just bath Goldie, normally sunday morning only bath her, but tomoro bring her go see vet.. so bath her today..
after bath, was a tough time to dry her, i cant manage to dry her properly.. haiz.. nvrmd la.. when got sun, she go for sun bath..  laugh.gif
man.. she does know how to enjoy life and take care her self..  laugh.gif
Tomoro, Saturday my brother bring Goldie to see a vet, there is a infection on her leg.. and is getting bigger.. OMG! is like human get a scar, then dry will have black skin wan.. that black skin was small wan.. now is big! icon_question.gif

hope goldie is okie..  cry.gif
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THis sound serious, since the scar is getting bigger. Maybe you should seek a second vet opinion. unsure.gif
Does goldie lost fur on the black skin area?


QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Nov 19 2007, 02:07 PM)
doh.gif Omg Kokifung, don't ever use human medicine on dogs. It doesn't work that way. Last time my cousin's Rottweiler was poisoned to death after licking on the medication that they bought from dunno what shop. The seller also say it's not poisonous.

Bring Goldie to another vet if you're worried but DON'T EVER use human medication on them.  sweat.gif
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Hmm, the yellow one can be used on dogs - last time shushu also his vet said can use for small wound to disinfect. He said it is safe for dog even licked.
Blue one I am not sure lar unsure.gif
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post Nov 20 2007, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(kokifung @ Nov 19 2007, 05:45 PM)
THZ FOR ALL INPUTS !!

as i know not all human medicine can be use on dogs, but i sure that ubat kuning/yellow medicine can be used on dogs.
i myself is a first aider, so i sure of that, then i also ask some vet opinion myself.

ya the scar getting bigger, but after applying the medicine seem controlled.

ya like human lor.. scar where got hair.. so Goldie the scar no more fur..

everyday Goldie lost a lot of fur even thought she been change the food to control fur lost.. the brand i think is choice.. lamb and rice if not mistaken..
later i upload the Goldie leg.. cry.gif
BTW, got some funny picture to share with u guys  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  doh.gif
LOOK how she sleep...
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this is her leg.. seem the scar is controlled.. yesterday worst..
click the picture to see the whole picture.. i focus on the leg.. the part have scar..  shocking.gif  cry.gif

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see also heart pain.. i dunno how see get it wan.. as i know when small that time, i already ask my brother bring her go see vet dun wan, say nothing wan.. cry.gif
now? like that liou..

WAT can i do? help me..

other then yellow medicine wat to take care her?
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Goldie likes to sleep next to the wall hor? laugh.gif so cute!
There is swelling on the leg beside the skin being black - looks serious. sad.gif
Better seek a second vet opinion - earlier treatment is better and not as costly as when it get serious.
This time make sure you ask a lot of question to the vet. If the vet is good, he would be able to explain the situation. smile.gif

QUOTE(kokifung @ Nov 19 2007, 10:22 PM)
erm.. thz  tongue.gif  laugh.gif

erm.. tak kan u dun care about her..

so cute.. haha.. she good in acting.. until my sister that are afraid of dogs and now not afraid of her anymore..

how clever is she, anyway, where can i bring her, anywhere nearby Bukit Jelutong or shah alam or subang or even sunway?  icon_question.gif
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Haha, my shushu did charm my sister who is also scared of dogs. I guess GR has the affectionate/goofy look that none can resist gua? tongue.gif
Since I am not staying in KL, I can't recommend any vet - maybe you can check the vet list for a nearest place. Hope the others will give you some vet recommendation too.

QUOTE(skyfei @ Nov 20 2007, 02:07 AM)
Hi all, I need some opinion here. My GR is abt 3 months old only. Ok here is the thing, he shedd quite alot. Im not sure its the food, or the shampoo or the shedding season. Thinking to switch its food. Any recommendation dog food to control fur dropping?
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Hmm, shedding for GR is quite normal. They do shed heavily a few times in a year - change fur.
However, allergy, wrong food or even wrong shampoo can cause shedding too.
Just a few question:
Is the shedding even or in patches? Try a test, grab a bunch of his fur and pull gently - does it come out a lot?
Does you GR scratches a lot?
If it scratches a lot (itchy), shed in patches and when you pull the fur come out easily, then most likely is allergy.
If just shedding - it can be normal. smile.gif
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post Nov 20 2007, 02:25 PM

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just bought CN herring & potato last few days - 9kg for RM108 for shushu to try. When open - wow! the fishy smell rclxub.gif
Shushu smell already also dunwan to eat, luckily after i mix a bit of old kibbles he sapu habis. Now can eat without mix kibbles sweat.gif
As usual, CN make shushu poo soft but he likes it. Blackwood I haven't try before, no comment.
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post Nov 20 2007, 05:09 PM

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I don't really keep tab on how much shushu eats, but one month should be from 10-15kg gua. tongue.gif


Added on November 20, 2007, 5:10 pm
QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Nov 20 2007, 05:02 PM)
u hints me something? hehehe yalor somemore prince eat spagetti by my sis. no salt no msg no coloring and mostly everyday eat with rice de... but haizzz naturally fit tongue.gif wont fat de tongue.gif
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maybe your prince is like my kero ....the vet said he is a bit skinny too coz what he eats all poo out....kekeke

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post Nov 21 2007, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(kokifung @ Nov 20 2007, 05:41 PM)
i just wandering.. other then dog biscuits and bread and dog treats.. what other things we can give GR try? can make a list?

i wandering wat vege and fruits are allow for dog?
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Here is a link of food to avoid:
food toxic to dogs

QUOTE(skyfei @ Nov 21 2007, 12:42 AM)
My pico
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koifung, my pico 3 mths old only. U mention tat ur bro switch dog food rite??
Wat is the outcome like ?? Fur stop dropping much ma? What is brand name again?
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Pico is very cute! got patches of white on the nose and legs. laugh.gif

QUOTE(BigBen @ Nov 21 2007, 11:32 AM)
Ben also take 15 kg kibbles .... post some update photo
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wow, ben very handsome - solid build also. nod.gif
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post Nov 21 2007, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(skyfei @ Nov 21 2007, 01:45 PM)
He did look abit skinny though? Haha
Tis is another thing i would like to get some advice. Wats the idle weight for GR puppy at the age of 3mths old?
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Dunno what is the ideal weight but shushu weights about 8kg when he is 3 months old. smile.gif

QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Nov 21 2007, 02:03 PM)
Ben very big ! phew... something like prince liao (2years old) hahaha i should pump prince faster tongue.gif
By the way prince is get well, now very active and big eater tongue.gif
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Haiya, shushu also bigger size than prince liao, cannot compare lor rolleyes.gif
Anyway, good to hear he is getting better rclxms.gif

Here is some photos of shushu & kero. Picture blur coz they move all the time:

kero approaching shushu
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both sniffing each other
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naughty kero giving shushu the tongue
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post Nov 21 2007, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Nov 21 2007, 03:46 PM)
you need to be member of MKA 1st then only the pet shop able transfer the name to u... you just join member i think ok liao... fees u need check, I think is about RM100+

edited = actually i also havent go and change tongue.gif and the cert when move house dont know put where liao...
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shakehead.gif shakehead.gif faster go n find the cert lar.

Actually, non MKA member also can transfer name. Difference is the $$ only.
MKA member = RM20.00
Non MKA = RM150.00

You have to submit a application for transfer form together with the original MKA cert to MKA.
The form u can download at MKA website:
MKA forms

I did it via postal. I think it is safer to go yourself there. If you want to do it by post, just remember to make a photocopy of the original cert in case it is lost. smile.gif

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post Nov 21 2007, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Nov 21 2007, 04:10 PM)
Doesn't matter le if your furkid is perfect or not. Most important that they're healthy. tongue.gif
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agreed! nod.gif Every furkid is unique and lovely in its own way... wub.gif
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post Nov 21 2007, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Nov 21 2007, 04:46 PM)
I really like Kero-chan's forehead - good for head butting! Woot! Shushu look as if he's suckling Kero-chan. laugh.gif Kawaii desu!
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lol, head butting ar, before you butt his head he will give you a wet kiss first. laugh.gif

QUOTE(simchi @ Nov 21 2007, 07:40 PM)
Won , I hate you for having Shushu and Kero ..  sad.gif  I am envious , they look so cute together .
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Not need to envy lor. 2 means double the mess, more clean-up time and more trouble they caused. rclxub.gif
I am now a slave to my pets - come back from work sure nonstop have to "fuk si" them........ sweat.gif
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post Nov 22 2007, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(RedBox @ Nov 22 2007, 12:27 AM)
First time I saw this many GRs at one location. smile.gif Here ya go.
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RB
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wow, lovely dogs!!! wub.gif
All look so solid and flex.gif
well, don't think i can train shushu to stand that way - he cannot stand still unless for his food sweat.gif
Thanks RB for sharing the photos!


Added on November 22, 2007, 9:48 am
QUOTE(BigBen @ Nov 22 2007, 09:19 AM)
wah.... Beautiful dog... drool.gif  drool.gif  must train ben to stand this way

Bad news for Ben yesterday went  back after work found that Ben have  testicle infection with 2 small hole  cry.gif  send to vet open and clean up, this morning he feel very pain cannot move much.. hope he having a speedy recovery. don't know what causes la..
kokifung
yesterday i did ask the vet that happen to your goldie leg he told me maybe is an leg ulcer go send for a check up faster..
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ooh, Hope ben gets well soon! sad.gif
Do share with us if you find out the cause, ok?

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post Nov 23 2007, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(XCcude @ Nov 22 2007, 12:18 PM)
wah both of them cute oo.. shushu like big sibling like dat.. im sure he will protect kero smile.gif make sure dont keep playing with kero if not shushu jealous...
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Thanks! I won't have any chance to play with kero if shushu is around coz shushu is facinated with kero, so both of them will play with each other more. Usually, i will bring kero upstair to my room and let him run around the room and play with his toys there.

QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Nov 23 2007, 04:31 PM)
I would said both... haha but hope the operation is ok.. if not very charm... going to bring prince to chibi's vet. Since chibi promise to take care 1day after operation because i dont want he travel so far from setapak there smile.gif

Thanks chibi in advanced smile.gif rclxms.gif
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ooh, chibi helping you to dogsit prince - that's good smile.gif
just make sure he has enough rest and not keep playing with abby and the gang there. tongue.gif

QUOTE(simchi @ Nov 23 2007, 07:42 PM)
Aih .. .poor thing Prince baby .. So thin somemore going for operation make him more tiny later .  sad.gif
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haiya, maybe after snip and chibi taking care of prince - he may suddenly grow fatter (like chelsea ler) brows.gif tongue.gif
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post Nov 29 2007, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Nov 26 2007, 12:51 AM)
Halo everyone, sorry for MIa for some time now, busy with work and chichi  sweat.gif
I want to ask hor, is tomato ok for dogs ah coz she accidently had some la.

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Hi ShadowR1,

How's chichi? She should be growing pretty fast now laugh.gif
Any updates or pictures? brows.gif

QUOTE(xXAaronXx @ Nov 27 2007, 11:53 PM)
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More picture of my dog hehe
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Hi Aaron,

Chester look very nice! wub.gif
He has nice fur and quite big size for 9 months....hehe. I though he is about 1 year old too! tongue.gif
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post Nov 30 2007, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(skyfei @ Nov 30 2007, 01:50 AM)
Thanks for sharing the video. Fixed the link for you. tongue.gif

QUOTE(summerboyz @ Nov 30 2007, 01:52 AM)
ooo...but mr.golden not too big if i have it at apartment? but then bark abit oso cannot one...my house here very silent geh...if bark abit also "she" will complain sad.gif hopefully i could bring back a ms.golden soon biggrin.gif
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Hi summerboyz,

Does your apartment allows you to keep dog? From your post, it seems like your neighbour will most probably complain about it. sad.gif
Golden Retriever is different from small breed doggies like shitzu, they will grow up to a big dog - which is pretty hard to hide. Some may be barky like my shushu. sweat.gif

Furthermore, GRs require daily exercise to be happy - means you will have to bring your dog out for a walk daily. That will increase the chance of being spotted by the neighbour and management. If you keep them cope up in apartment all the time, they may start chewing on stuff to relieve their boredom.

Lastly, GR shed a lot. Is your mom ok with the fur flying around? If she is very particular about cleanlines, you may have a problem there.

Here is something to read before you decided to get one:

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THE GOLDEN RETRIEVER IS NOT FOR EVERYONE!

The Golden Retriever is an American Kennel Club sporting breed requiring daily activity as an outlet of amazing energy. (And no...a short trip to the nearest tree from the front door for a potty break does not count as exercise.)

A Golden's thick coat in addition to a water repellent undercoat makes weekly brushing a requirement.

The Golden is NOT for fussy or fanatical housekeepers. Goldens shed and whether you call them fur balls, fur bunnies or tumbleweeds...they will be in plentiful supply across your living and dining room floors.

If there is water in the vicinity a Golden will find it... muddy or not!

If your yard harbors small sticks, leaves, etc...a Golden's coat will find it.(And inevitably drag into your house.)

Some of the larger headed Goldens bred for conformation tend to have a looser lip resulting in drooling.  Our girls gave it a more technically scientific name..."being slimmed!" (It's amazing what we have learned to tolerate!)

Being a very social breed-Goldens are NOT suited for solitary backyard living or being chained to the dog house all day and night. Goldens tackle EVERYTHING with passion and zeal! They will not be satisfied with anything less than being part of the family. Whether it's a jaunt to the store down the road or a ten hour excursion to the beach - it makes no difference to them...as long as they are with their family!  We call them the "pocket dog"- if you can't find your Golden just turn around... he is probably in your back pocket waiting to see what you want to do next.

Goldens are NOT guard dogs! Golden Retrievers are the most sociable creature on earth and probably invented the saying "I'm a lover- not a fighter!" They have NO enemies and NOBODY is a stranger.  An invitation to a burglar to "come in and take a load off" would be more rational in a Golden's point of view than anything threatening or hateful. After all...the more the merrier!

The Golden's size in combination with their frolicsome playfulness make basic obedience (At the very least.) a necessity. Golden retrievers without basic knowledge of commands can lead to uncontrollable playfulness, exuberant jumping, etc. This is not only annoying and irritating (Not to mention rude.) but a dangerous situation for a child or elderly person...no matter how well meaning their intentions.

One more thing...don't let it be said we did not warn you about shedding!


Having said all the negative...for those willing to take the responsibility and commit to own a Golden Retriever you will not find a more loving, sweet, affectionate and devoted member of your family. (Not counting your spouse!)
source: http://www.grrcny.org/before.html

Do consider carefully and check around first whether there will be any problem if you decided to get one. If you really decided to get one, please make sure you have alternative backup if problem do occur. I am very happy to welcome another retriever owner smile.gif , but I does not want to see another dog being put up for sale / adoption when problem does occur - especially one as loveable as a retriever. sad.gif Just my 2 cents!

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lol, yah - shushu doesn't pee / poo on wet surface also. He is super fussy - if there is traces of pee/poo on the floor he wouldn't go near it until you clean it up. He will find another spot to do his business. rclxub.gif

How's queenie doing? wub.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Nov 30 2007, 11:33 AM)
i left her at my friend's house, just got back from overseas. Will be taking her later after work. I just wonder how come she is so well behaved with strangers but so naughty when with me. Ish!  shakehead.gif
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haha laugh.gif same with me lor. I guess they know we will love them no matter what, so can misbehave a bit.
My grandma, who is puppysitting my 2 monsters during my working hours, always complained that they are so noisy and hyper when i am around but when i am away working, they just lay around the house and sleep quietly. Shushu will also follow grandma wherever she goes, very guai.


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QUOTE(hooverbell @ Nov 30 2007, 12:06 PM)

Hey Won, i read your blog... saw your Momo's little pic at your blog... so nice... i like the colour... biggrin.gif

Of course your 2 other doggie babies are cute too!  thumbup.gif

I'm still waiting for my chance to get doggies... wahahha, have been waiting for years already, still can't have the chance to own one dog... hhaaa...

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ooh, Thanks for visiting shushu's blog! notworthy.gif
Momo is the lovely hammy i got from nezumitaro. laugh.gif
When the time is right, you will get your dog - don't worry! smile.gif I waited for quite some time before getting my monsters too. wub.gif

QUOTE(BigBen @ Nov 30 2007, 12:07 PM)
hahah ben also noisy ... when day time with someone around him bark n bark whoever past by when he alone outside quite only  shakehead.gif  but during night time little sound or movement bark n bark he don care.. like telling everybody he got jaga pintu like that hahah
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oh, ben also noisy ar? Hehe, shushu is famous for his barking liao.... rclxub.gif , but he is a good watch dog at home.
When kero escape from his playpen, shushu will bark and let me know.

QUOTE(XCcude @ Nov 30 2007, 02:12 PM)
today 2nd last day to see my roy... gonna go back holidays for 3 weeks in malaysia... ill miss him =( today me and mum talking about the holiday, he kept whining even though im there, then i gave him some biscuits usually he finish within seconds.. but this time he held it in his mouth... then left it on the floor then continue whining =(
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Hmmm, hmm.gif maybe roy can sense your feelings as well. He has grown quite attached to you now, yah? nod.gif

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