if UM can win, highly suspect ahem ahem lar. everyone know, the big 3 is M, C, D, now CD merged, it is even bigger. so these CD, and M gonna be sucker for DNB? since MoF wanna wash hands clean clean.

This post has been edited by jayko: Nov 18 2025, 02:37 PM

Yes 5G (NSA)


Yes 5G SA


Interestingly, 5G NSA and SA has similar speeds (tested on Galaxy A56 5G).
Plan : Yes Power 35

This post has been edited by shaun_kok: Nov 20 2025, 08:31 AM

Because at the end both of them have CA
NSA B28 + N78
SA N28 + N78
The N28/B28 is DSS-ed
Both of them doesn’t make big difference in terms of speed because it’s the same spectrum

actually who is going to be able to use this 5g netowork? only umobile? everyone else already forced to own the other one, so they need to pay double to use overlapping 5g?? who is even gonna pay hahah

they dont even care about 4g coverage anymore its just getting worse

Yup, that's correct. But I noticed that uploads can be faster on NSA mode.

by right SA should smokes NSA hands down, but here the margin is very little, you sure is SA? got verify with cellular-z ?

by right, the SA should unleased the raw speed of 5G, no?

btw your speedtest result at your signature is gotten from test lab environment?

I can sure the below one is 5G SA. For the NSA test I purposely changed the settings via *#2263# (available on almost all Samsung phones) - and choose NR NSA N78 + LTE B28.

If I left the settings by default, it will connect to 5G SA when the signal is available - if you have the correct plan of course.

Regardless of 5G NSA or SA, as Sam said, the underlaying bandwidth itself is the same regardless of NSA or SA (20MHz X2 on 700MHz + 100MHz on 3500MHz), so the speed difference is not going to be huge (unless there is 5G-A).

This post has been edited by shaun_kok: Nov 20 2025, 12:28 PM

if that is the case, I'm not sure if that is congestion of that served area or the exynos SoC chip? do you have the info how fast this phone can support the dl speed in NR SA?

SA theoretically should have better coverage and faster speed compared to NSA because NSA runs on 4G Core Network

But here’s the thing, DNB is built on a brand new core network and then connected to telco core network
Nowadays if you noticed many telco 4G ping on a fiber-ed tower is quite low (16-18ms), means telco 4GC is actually quite good already

Thus it doesn’t really make big difference for SA vs NSA at least for DNB, the only thing I noticed is SA will provide better coverage on N28 because when in fully SA the 700MHz is running on NR, which provides beam capability and thus the network coverage is more wider.

Since all the underlaying bandwidth are the same, it shouldn’t make any huge difference like additional 200Mbps+ speed unless the telco do network slicing on the SA network which makes your device the priority one (refer to Yes 5G Network Slicing Test), where this means others user on the same network will be deprioritised as they share the same spectrum

Correct me if I’m wrong and no the signature photos is from a public area

the 4G core network aka EPC is what ultimately decide the speedtest result. as all RAN converged to EPC and processed there. so the
RAN---Transmission---EPC, the entire bandwidth from RAN to EPC is deciding factor.

as you know, the current setup, B28 LTE anchor to 5G NSA is because reuse of LTE RAN (eNodeB) to connect to DNB core network (aka Ericcson's 5GC) this is the most economical ways of 5G implementation.

I think it will be long road before we can have 5G SA, as LTE eNodeB is still making up most of the RAN equipment with years of deployment.

Those who wanted 5G SA, the bestest way is jump on the bandwagon of UM ultra5G. single vendor, Huawei for West Msia, ZTE for E.Msia.
I don't know much about YES, UM and YES are consider smaller players, hence their own LTE deployment is not as wide and big compare to big Three. so it make sense for them to jump straight to 5G full deployment without the 4G deployment cost baggage.

the advantage of 5G SA are uMBB , mMTC , URLLC and Network slicing,
in simple term
uMBB = speed + capacity.
mMTC = connect millions of small IoT devices efficiently
URLLC = real-time + ultra-stable connection.

I think IoT only need 2G, cheap and it works.
I think except China, others not really adopting the so called mmtc and urllc (alot of showcase 5 yrs ago but now AI trend no one cares about 5G) … expensive, hi power consumption, overkill …

IoT in term of factory machines, they have reduce capabilities, aka redcap under 5G. Which is 200Mbps. Good enough to get the job done. The key is very small latency for machine to machine IoT in factory. 5G normal end users is speed. Factory and Autonous driving is different things altogether.

But if indoor, Indoor nothing beat fixed connectivity.. no matter how low latency mobile tech is wont beat fibre fixed line, even with wifi also… speed also wont beat fibre …

5G modem router is also call FWA, fixed wireless access, I don't want to pay the price of fiber for home user, where I can get 5G internet at the fraction of the fiber cost and getting much faster speed than fiber. lol

Mobile tech is still mobile tech ... can never replace fibre quality ... mobile tech is unreliable subject to interference and inconsistent ... it is just not the same, cheaper yes.
Not to mention mobile "unlimited" has FUP ...