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post Jan 23 2024, 05:35 PM, updated 2y ago

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KEJADIAN DI SUNGAI PERAI
Satu kejadian mengejut telah berlaku di Sungai Perai. PBAPP telah mengesan kebocoran besar secara mendadak pada bahagian saluran paip bawah permukaan air 1,350mm. PBAPP sedang berusaha untuk mengepam air melalui saluran paip pada aliran minimum. Langkah ini mungkin akan membawa kepada gangguan bekalan air kepada kira-kira 200,000 pengguna di Daerah Barat Daya (Daerah Barat Daya atau DBD) di Pulau Pinang dan beberapa kawasan di Seberang Perai. Sila ambil perhatian bahawa ini adalah "kejadian mendadak" dan bukan gangguan bekalan air berjadual yang dilakukan oleh PBAPP. PBAPP telah mengaktifkan pelan respons kecemasannya. Kami akan menyiarkan kemas kini sewajarnya.
Terima kasih.

5.00pm, 23.1.2024
MISHAP AT SUNGAI PERAI
A sudden mishap has occurred at Sungai Perai. PBAPP has detected a sudden major leak on the 1,350mm underwater pipeline section. PBAPP is striving to pump water through the pipeline at minimal flow.

This exercise is likely to lead towards a water supply disruption for about 200,000 consumers in the South-West District (Daerah Barat Daya or DBD) on Penang Island and some areas in Seberang Perai.

Please note that this is a “sudden mishap” and not a scheduled water supply interruption initiated by PBAPP.* PBAPP has activated its emergency response plan. We will post updates accordingly.
Thank You.

Chow Kon Yeow 曹觀友
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post Jan 23 2024, 05:36 PM

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Mainland problem jangan libatkan pulau ye.
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Biasa lah Negeri PH. Where got money for repair and refurbish. Every year also budget deficit owai..
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post Jan 23 2024, 05:38 PM

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post Jan 23 2024, 05:57 PM

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This is gonna take another 4-5 days
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post Jan 23 2024, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 23 2024, 05:57 PM)
This is gonna take another 4-5 days
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Thaipusam GGWP?
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post Jan 23 2024, 06:02 PM

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post Jan 23 2024, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 23 2024, 05:59 PM)
Thaipusam GGWP?
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Not water cut, low pressure only

So still can store water now
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 23 2024, 06:03 PM)
Not water cut, low pressure only

So still can store water now
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Many area no water coming out! cry.gif
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post Jan 23 2024, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 23 2024, 06:04 PM)
Many area no water coming out! cry.gif
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Tomorrow pba lorry will come, dont worry
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 23 2024, 06:08 PM)
Tomorrow pba lorry will come, dont worry
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Mana tu member that have insider PBA info, apa nick dia? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Jan 23 2024, 05:36 PM)
Mainland problem jangan libatkan pulau ye.
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Mainland oso kena liao! sad.gif
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 23 2024, 05:57 PM)
This is gonna take another 4-5 days
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this is the same pipe they decide to replace completely using a month
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Burningsunz you on site? any update?
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 23 2024, 06:04 PM)
Many area no water coming out! cry.gif
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CKY's post said DBD but DTL also no water now.

QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 23 2024, 06:08 PM)
Tomorrow pba lorry will come, dont worry
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Problem is they've just decommissioned all the black tanks that they've prepared at strategic sites recently.

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post Jan 23 2024, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 23 2024, 06:16 PM)
Burningsunz you on site? any update?
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Leak again. Pba already anticipate this but then never expect kena like this so fast.

Later i go i update more.
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Where to go eat? Place that have water where?
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QUOTE(new in IT @ Jan 23 2024, 06:41 PM)
Where to go eat? Place that have water where?
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 23 2024, 06:36 PM)
Leak again. Pba already anticipate this but then never expect kena like this so fast.

Later i go i update more.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 23 2024, 06:44 PM)
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They are trying to isolate the pipe now so expect some area in goerge town will have low pressure while isolating work is going on. Need to isolate then diver will go access the situation. They habe clamp on standby.

In a short while pba will come out with the list of effected areas

Some area in seberang will kena but this is for short period while isolating the pipe they need to reduce the pressure.
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 23 2024, 07:13 PM)
They are trying to isolate the pipe now so expect some area in goerge town will have low pressure while isolating work is going on. Need to isolate then diver will go access the situation. They habe clamp on standby.

In a short while pba will come out with the list of effected areas

Some area in seberang will kena but this is for short period while isolating the pipe they need to reduce the pressure.
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Isolate? U mean the smaller pipes are ready?
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 23 2024, 06:36 PM)
Leak again. Pba already anticipate this but then never expect kena like this so fast.

Later i go i update more.
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Too many thread. Not sure where to post update also.

So now need diver to access the situation first. If the hole can clamp then they will do it. But ofcourse recovery of water supply takes time.


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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 23 2024, 10:00 PM)
Too many thread. Not sure where to post update also.

So now need diver to access the situation first. If the hole can clamp then they will do it. But ofcourse recovery of water supply takes time.
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Just update one will do. That will divert the traffic to that particular thread.
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U tau ini minggu thaipusam kan.. the pulau will sink at least 300mm due to the flock of visitor in...
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Anyhow newd diver assess dulu then tomorrow see which option available. But expect min 4-5 days for full recovery for dbd area
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Penang water pipes is how old now?

40-50 years since last installation?
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QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ Jan 23 2024, 10:26 PM)
my friend place ard no water smile.gif
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Can you guys state the location whenever you report areas with disrupted water supply?
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 23 2024, 10:33 PM)
Can you guys state the location whenever you report areas with disrupted water supply?
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 23 2024, 10:33 PM)
Can you guys state the location whenever you report areas with disrupted water supply?
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Exactly. I see people writing:
my place got/no water - defug do we know where you stay?
my place Sg Ara got/no water - dafug do we know which part of Sg Ara you're staying, like Hongkie say: Sg Ara you stay all ah?
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 23 2024, 10:18 PM)
Anyhow newd diver assess dulu then tomorrow see which option available. But expect min 4-5 days for full recovery for dbd area
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Many people have been asking PBA on its FB page: how can 2 x 600mm pipes replace a 1350mm pipe, capacity wise?

PBA: krik krik krik
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yay!

by end of this year, all islander will develop heavy lifting muscles.

even babies..
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 24 2024, 01:08 AM)
Many people have been asking PBA on its FB page: how can 2 x 600mm pipes replace a 1350mm pipe, capacity wise?

PBA: krik krik krik
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Bukan replacement but 2x600mm temporary & fastest solution while waiting for the permanent one over the river.
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Mana area?
My mother place still ok but donno today la
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Penang gonna have lots of Indians coming in for thaipusam tonight, this is gonna be water crisis
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 24 2024, 02:19 AM)
Bukan replacement but 2x600mm temporary & fastest solution while waiting for the permanent one over the river.
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I know it's temporary. But they will be there for months.

Still, how can 2 x600mm replace 1350mm, capacity wise?
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One month 4 times water disruption... good jobs CM Chow.

With hundred of high rise super condo on the way costing RM1 million each, yet the water pipe still using the old tech 1950... bravo Penanglist...




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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 24 2024, 08:35 AM)
I know it's temporary. But they will be there for months.

Still, how can 2 x600mm replace 1350mm, capacity wise?
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fastest & cause least inconvenience.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 24 2024, 08:47 AM)
fastest & cause least inconvenience.
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That doesn't answer how they expect the 2 lines to cope. Will EOL consumers bear the brunt of the low capacity? For 6-8 months wei.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 24 2024, 09:11 AM)
That doesn't answer how they expect the 2 lines to cope. Will EOL consumers bear the brunt of the low capacity? For 6-8 months wei.
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Its basically no water or low pressure water

Very simple decision, temporary of course

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Many ppl already thinking taking leave on friday, tomorrow can start to go outstation until sunday, 4 days holiday
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 24 2024, 09:19 AM)
Its basically no water or low pressure water

Very simple decision, temporary of course
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Simple for those not locating at eol or high places.

They could have launched 2 lines first, then add more when needed. But no explanation and way forward are given.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 24 2024, 09:23 AM)
Simple for those not locating at eol or high places.

They could have launched 2 lines first, then add more when needed. But no explanation and way forward are given.
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Can start plan for 4-5 days holiday if u are eol

I heard its gonna be 5-6days at least
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Dah lar punde!

Dap salah!

Kedekut mia worank!

Awal2 tara mao tukar very old pipeline!

Yini pasal anneh benci account pipul!

#lgeout!

#charkuayteowout!
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 24 2024, 09:34 AM)
Can start plan for 4-5 days holiday if u are eol

I heard its gonna be 5-6days at least
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There's no update since last night when CM mentioned about sending divers in. It usually means bad news.

So this time, really cham liao. I suspect pipe broken badly, sheared off pun likely.

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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ Jan 24 2024, 09:42 AM)
One month 4 times water disruption... good jobs CM Chow.

With hundred of high rise super condo on the way costing RM1 million each, yet the water pipe still using the old tech 1950... bravo Penanglist...


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Sudah tabley punya…

The whole pipeline is compromise…

Bodo pipur still wanna tampal, replace bocor part sini sana…

Mao jimat!

The pipe besi thick ess tinggal few milimeters only! Inside already terhakis how many mms all this year??

Outside already terhakis karat how many mms??

Wanna withstand bulk water pressure summore dunno how many bars lar dey!!

Simua kasi tukar baru lar!!

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 24 2024, 02:08 AM)
Many people have been asking PBA on its FB page: how can 2 x 600mm pipes replace a 1350mm pipe, capacity wise?

PBA: krik krik krik
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Buat 2 or 3 smaller parallel pipeline lar!!

Yini one big pipeline bocor satu penang gg!!

Yini machem punya plan bukan lagi bordoh kahh??!!

Tara backup pipeline punya??
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 24 2024, 09:37 AM)
There's no update since last night when CM mentioned about sending divers in. It usually means bad news.

So this time, really cham liao. I suspect pipe broken badly, sheared off pun likely.
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Yup, looks like they also cant tell us what & when, as of now


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If the PBA can't fix the issue then go hire some other country expert to oversee the situation lar...

always worry loosing money use the low repair cost...under DAP alway think of increase water bill but no bother of Penanglist life like Gerakan...

QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 24 2024, 09:40 AM)
Yup, looks like they also cant tell us what & when, as of now
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GEORGE TOWN, Jan 24 : Consumers in Penang have been told to brace for water interruptions to last from 48 hours to six days as the Penang Water Supply Corporation (PBAPP) works to resolve the latest water crisis in the state.

As of last night, PBAPP confirmed that 120,000 account holders, mostly in the island's largest district of Balik Pulau, have no water.

The Vibes learnt that many other households in the George Town district including the affluent community in Island Glades and Island Park, Fettes Park and Tanjong Tokong as well as the George Town World Heritage Site also faced interruptions.

Chief Minister Chow Kon Yeow and state executive councillor Zairil Khir Johari had since visited the affected site - the riverbed PBAPP pipe beneath Sungai Perai, near the Ampang Jajar bridge in Butterworth.

Chow told a live Facebook broadcast that the PBAPP is exploring two options - sending a squad of experienced divers to stop the leak which may take up to 48 hours or expediting the ongoing pipe diversion connection work, fusing the pipes from the riverbed to an overland pipe.

“This may take up to six more days,” he said.

For now, PBAPP is studying all options, said Chow, who pleaded with consumers to be patient, as the state wrestled with its fifth major disruption in less than a month.

The most affected are residents in Balik Pulau, and most worrying is how factories in the Bayan Lepas Free Industrial Zone, which is the prime mover of the state's manufacturing economy, would cope under such major disruptions.

Chow said contingency measures were in place, with water tankers deployed to the same localities they were stationed barely two weeks ago.

Meanwhile, a former Penang Water Holdings Berhad (PBA) board member said with the Thaipusam celebrations tomorrow, the state needs to hasten the restoration of services.

S. Raveentharan said over a million devotees would be flocking to the state, and it was worrying how they would cope if there was no proper water supply.

“It will complicate plans to ensure a smooth celebration," he said.

If supply cannot be restored, Raveentharan called on water tankers to be stationed throughout the procession route.

The two chariots are scheduled to leave for the Arulmigu Balathandayuthapani Temple, also known as the Waterfall Hilltop Temple tomorrow.

News Credit : Ian McIntyre/The Vibes/24 Jan 2024
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Fifth major disruption in less than a month.

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PBA Penang CEO kencing dalam seluar now

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Basically this pba ceo need to resign

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Jan 24 2024, 09:55 AM)
Fifth major disruption in less than a month.

TOPKEK
PBA Penang CEO kencing dalam seluar now
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jan 24 2024, 06:17 AM)
Mana area?
My mother place still ok but donno today la
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butterworth...sudah back to normal since last night
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butterworth...sudah back to normal since last night
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So fast got water already?

Ppl hoohaa can be upto 5-6 days no water
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 24 2024, 01:08 AM)
Many people have been asking PBA on its FB page: how can 2 x 600mm pipes replace a 1350mm pipe, capacity wise?

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It cant, due to the time constraint this close to 2mil project is a temporary mitigation but atleast this one can last longer but ofcourse the the combined volume is smaller than the initial one but the existing pipe really cannot tahan already so have to go for this.
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 24 2024, 11:53 AM)
It cant, due to the time constraint this close to 2mil project is a temporary mitigation but atleast this one can last longer but ofcourse the the combined volume is smaller than the initial one but the existing pipe really cannot tahan already so have to go for this.
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Understand. Any plan to add to this capacity while waiting for the like-for-like replacement?

For example, install a manifold and run HDPE pipes to supplement the 2 x 600mm? I understand hdpe pipes are relatively easier to install.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 24 2024, 01:08 AM)
Many people have been asking PBA on its FB page: how can 2 x 600mm pipes replace a 1350mm pipe, capacity wise?

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 24 2024, 11:53 AM)
It cant, due to the time constraint this close to 2mil project is a temporary mitigation but atleast this one can last longer but ofcourse the the combined volume is smaller than the initial one but the existing pipe really cannot tahan already so have to go for this.
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I think you don't know how pipe works
Of course can.
The water just flow faster in 2x 600mm pipes and then flow slower in 1350mm.


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Understand. Any plan to add to this capacity while waiting for the like-for-like replacement?

For example, install a manifold and run HDPE pipes to supplement the 2 x 600mm? I understand hdpe pipes are relatively easier to install.
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No need. The water just flow faster in 2x600mm. Capacity still same.
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 24 2024, 11:34 AM)
So fast got water already?

Ppl hoohaa can be upto 5-6 days no water
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 24 2024, 12:02 PM)
I think you don't know how pipe works
Of course can.
The water just flow faster in 2x 600mm pipes and then flow slower in 1350mm.
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you need to square it

area of 2x600 mm is less than half of 1x1350 mm

you can increase the flow rate by upping the pressure, but got limit also or the pipe will pecah again
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jan 24 2024, 12:14 PM)
you need to square it

area of 2x600 mm is less than half of 1x1350 mm

you can increase the flow rate by upping the pressure, but got limit also or the pipe will pecah again
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What I mean is, if the piping is constricted at 2x600mm, the water will just flow faster there.

Nothing really change

Let's say output from pump is 2000l/hour flow rate

A (1350) --> B (2x600) --> A (1350)

The connected in between B will flow faster

But when it back to A, it will flow back to 2000l/h rate

Nothing change
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 24 2024, 12:34 PM)
What I mean is, if the piping is constricted at 2x600mm, the water will just flow faster there.

Nothing really change

Let's say output from pump is 2000l/hour flow rate

A (1350) --> B (2x600) --> A (1350)

The connected in between B will flow faster

But when it back to A, it will flow back to 2000l/h rate

Nothing change
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Pressure need to increase with the faster flow rate, they cannot just keep on increasing pumping pressure and flow rate. Most likely will need to reduce a bit of pumping pressure if they do not want the new smaller pipes to burst too.

just a random figure i googled

user posted image

edit:
from the picture, take for example 40 psi,
big pipe ~230 gpm
2xsmall pipe ~2 x 50 gpm

if you want to maintain the flow rate at 2 x 100 gpm, the pressure in the smaller pipes would go > 100 psi.

so yeah, most likely they will need to reduce the pressure a bit.

in practice, the frictional losses would also reduce some of it.

This post has been edited by loserguy: Jan 24 2024, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 24 2024, 11:56 AM)
Understand. Any plan to add to this capacity while waiting for the like-for-like replacement?

For example, install a manifold and run HDPE pipes to supplement the 2 x 600mm? I understand hdpe pipes are relatively easier to install.
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The diversion pipe is already ongoing works and due to yesterday major leakage again so the work gonna be rushed and hopefully get it done by this week so it can be joint to the existing pipe and decommision the underwater pipe.

Thats why now have to wait divers assesment then only see how teruk the damage is and how long the divers need to clamp it. And if the damage is very bad and needed the same amount of days as the diversion pipe then maybe will opt to connect the diversion pipe since it will be ready in a few days time.

If the damaged can be clamp easily then it will be clamp dulu then once the diversion pipe is ready then need to isolate this pipe again so can joint the supply to the diversion pipe.

But all this are temporary measure yea but atleast with the diversion pipe we wont have to worry about leakage since it is on the ground instead of underwater. For long term mitigation i think pba will monitor and see if the pressure from this diversion is sufficient or not.
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 24 2024, 12:54 PM)
The diversion pipe is already ongoing works and due to yesterday major leakage again so the work gonna be rushed and hopefully get it done by this week so it can be joint to the existing pipe and decommision the underwater pipe.

Thats why now have to wait divers assesment then only see how teruk the damage is and how long the divers need to clamp it. And if the damage is very bad and needed the same amount of days as the diversion pipe then maybe will opt to connect the diversion pipe since it will be ready in a few days time.

If the damaged can be clamp easily then it will be clamp dulu then once the diversion pipe is ready then need to isolate this pipe again so can joint the supply to the diversion pipe.

But all this are temporary measure yea but atleast with the diversion pipe we wont have to worry about leakage since it is on the ground instead of underwater. For long term mitigation i think pba will monitor and see if the pressure from this diversion is sufficient or not.
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Sudah tabley punya…

The whole pipeline is compromise…

Bodo pipur still wanna tampal, replace bocor part sini sana…

Mao jimat!

The pipe besi thick ess tinggal few milimeters only! Inside already terhakis how many mms all this year??

Outside already terhakis karat how many mms??

Wanna withstand bulk water pressure summore dunno how many bars lar dey!!

Simua kasi tukar baru lar!!
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 24 2024, 12:54 PM)
The diversion pipe is already ongoing works and due to yesterday major leakage again so the work gonna be rushed and hopefully get it done by this week so it can be joint to the existing pipe and decommision the underwater pipe.

Thats why now have to wait divers assesment then only see how teruk the damage is and how long the divers need to clamp it. And if the damage is very bad and needed the same amount of days as the diversion pipe then maybe will opt to connect the diversion pipe since it will be ready in a few days time.

If the damaged can be clamp easily then it will be clamp dulu then once the diversion pipe is ready then need to isolate this pipe again so can joint the supply to the diversion pipe.

But all this are temporary measure yea but atleast with the diversion pipe we wont have to worry about leakage since it is on the ground instead of underwater. For long term mitigation i think pba will monitor and see if the pressure from this diversion is sufficient or not.
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Thank you for the update. Weird that PBA is not sharing similar level of explanation on their socmed since it will at least help to better explain what's going on.
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unlike some other states

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asal ada effort buat kerja la

unlike some other states

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jan 24 2024, 12:43 PM)
Pressure need to increase with the faster flow rate, they cannot just keep on increasing pumping pressure and flow rate. Most likely will need to reduce a bit of pumping pressure if they do not want the new smaller pipes to burst too.

just a random figure i googled

user posted image

edit:
from the picture, take for example 40 psi,
big pipe ~230 gpm
2xsmall pipe ~2 x 50 gpm

if you want to maintain the flow rate at 2 x 100 gpm, the pressure in the smaller pipes would go > 100 psi.

so yeah, most likely they will need to reduce the pressure a bit.

in practice, the frictional losses would also reduce some of it.
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Oh you mean after they install the smaller pipe, they need to reduce pressure at the pump so that the pressure at the smaller pipe is not out of control. Make sense also
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no updates for almost 20 hours... i assume the situation is grim..

will go back store up some water..

staying in SPT but water pressure has been fluctuating slightly since yest evening..
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asal ada effort buat kerja la

unlike some other states

do nothing also got bonus haahahahahha
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QUOTE(seather @ Jan 24 2024, 02:24 PM)
no updates for almost 20 hours... i assume the situation is grim..

will go back store up some water..

staying in SPT but water pressure has been fluctuating slightly since yest evening..
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You remind me of previous ministers who like to compare our country's performance against low-performing countries like Zimbabwe. doh.gif
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My wife asking, mau take leave Friday & go outstation o not😂

2 hours left to decide, i m waiting for cky announcement..
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 24 2024, 12:54 PM)
The diversion pipe is already ongoing works and due to yesterday major leakage again so the work gonna be rushed and hopefully get it done by this week so it can be joint to the existing pipe and decommision the underwater pipe.

Thats why now have to wait divers assesment then only see how teruk the damage is and how long the divers need to clamp it. And if the damage is very bad and needed the same amount of days as the diversion pipe then maybe will opt to connect the diversion pipe since it will be ready in a few days time.

If the damaged can be clamp easily then it will be clamp dulu then once the diversion pipe is ready then need to isolate this pipe again so can joint the supply to the diversion pipe.

But all this are temporary measure yea but atleast with the diversion pipe we wont have to worry about leakage since it is on the ground instead of underwater. For long term mitigation i think pba will monitor and see if the pressure from this diversion is sufficient or not.
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by the looks of it , I guess this will be the longest water cut, since to wait for diversion pipe to complete, it requires at least 5-6 days (cky page sos). And alot of people in DBD did not prepare for this round.
gg barat daya, i hope we survive this.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jan 24 2024, 12:43 PM)
Pressure need to increase with the faster flow rate, they cannot just keep on increasing pumping pressure and flow rate. Most likely will need to reduce a bit of pumping pressure if they do not want the new smaller pipes to burst too.

just a random figure i googled

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

edit:
from the picture, take for example 40 psi,
big pipe ~230 gpm
2xsmall pipe ~2 x 50 gpm

if you want to maintain the flow rate at 2 x 100 gpm, the pressure in the smaller pipes would go > 100 psi.

so yeah, most likely they will need to reduce the pressure a bit.

in practice, the frictional losses would also reduce some of it.
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Another risk with increasing pressure is the pressure (no pun intended) on the pipings upstream of the temporary lines. These upstream lines I reckon are equally if not older than the one inside the river.
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How ah? Still no water? My condo at bayan lepas airport area water tank left half..
Considering escape to taiping lol
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How ah? Still no water? My condo at bayan lepas airport area water tank left half..
Considering escape to taiping lol
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QUOTE(Godsweirdson @ Jan 24 2024, 02:54 PM)
by the looks of it , I guess this will be the longest water cut, since to wait for diversion pipe to complete, it requires at least 5-6 days (cky page sos). And alot of people in DBD did not prepare for this round.
gg barat daya, i hope we survive this.
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And after the bypass lines are commissioned, I expect to experience low water pressure in Sg Ara and those areas far away as the new lines do not have equal capacity. I will be glad to be wrong as I live in Sg Ara.
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QUOTE(throwawayacclmao @ Jan 24 2024, 03:13 PM)
How ah? Still no water? My condo at bayan lepas airport area water tank left half..
Considering escape to taiping lol
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Better you escape to Taiping.
This piping works not like playing Lego, so easily fixed.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 24 2024, 03:35 PM)
And after the bypass lines are commissioned, I expect to experience low water pressure in Sg Ara and those areas far away as the new lines do not have equal capacity. I will be glad to be wrong as I live in Sg Ara.
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Landed or high rise?

If new high rise projects should be able to tahan few days, if not fully occupied

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How ah? Still no water? My condo at bayan lepas airport area water tank left half..
Considering escape to taiping lol
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Can tumpang? 😁
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Better you escape to Taiping.
This piping works not like playing Lego, so easily fixed.
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Funny that you say like that

I always think piping is like Lego

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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 24 2024, 02:52 PM)
My wife asking, mau take leave Friday & go outstation o not😂

2 hours left to decide, i m waiting for cky announcement..
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Same here

Just wait, my friend say after ADUN meeting should be got announcement later
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 24 2024, 03:44 PM)
Landed or high rise?

If new high rise projects should be able to tahan few days, if not fully occupied
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Condo. Tangki expected to last till tomorrow morning.
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Latest update from PBAPP facebook:

Friday / Saturday will have water, Tuesday (30 Jan) cut again for connecting new temporary bypass pipe, 1st Feb should solve this issue temporary until the new 1350mm pipe is ready (at least half a year later)



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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Jan 24 2024, 02:42 PM)
paip pecah bang

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Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern. You compared against some back-water states yet this nonchalant attitude is exactly the very path that will lead Penang down that road.

Who's going to bear all the losses for the impacted businesses especially those MNCs in FTZ? Heads gotta roll since this is clear evidence of incompetence. Apologies & understanding are not going to feed tummies.
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Jan 24 2024, 04:22 PM)
Latest update from PBAPP facebook:

Friday / Saturday will have water, Tuesday (30 Jan) cut again for connecting new temporary bypass pipe, 1st Feb should solve this issue temporary until the new 1350mm pipe is ready (at least half a year later)


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If official announcement Friday morning, Thursday night should have water already


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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 24 2024, 05:53 PM)
If official announcement Friday morning, Thursday night should have water already
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Macam ini saya balik kampung dulu la... Come back after everything settle on Thursday.

My condo at lorong mahsuri water tank already half capacity already, tomorrow morning don't know if got water or not.

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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 24 2024, 05:53 PM)
If official announcement Friday morning, Thursday night should have water already
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Plan A is not so easy bruh, dont put up too much hope, that river got almost zero visibility with buaya around, and need to see the river current as well. sweat.gif Even if they weld it successfully on time, no guarantee that there wont be another crack appeared instantly once they turn on the water.
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Faster book hotel at mainland lar…

Tomorrow confirm no water edi penang
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Jan 24 2024, 04:22 PM)
Latest update from PBAPP facebook:

Friday / Saturday will have water, Tuesday (30 Jan) cut again for connecting new temporary bypass pipe, 1st Feb should solve this issue temporary until the new 1350mm pipe is ready (at least half a year later)


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It's the first time I see a work plan with only date, without time.
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It's the first time I see a work plan with only date, without time.
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hmm.gif date =/= time?
Can elaborate?

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It's the first time I see a work plan with only date, without time.
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I feel they cant be sure as Plan B is not planned to complete this early, most likely rushing like mad cow day & night and so they dare not to put the exact time, at least they got 24hours to buffer if only date available lol
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Official apartment water finish.
Now start using own tangki water. Should be ok to tahan until Friday. If plan fail again can consider go hatyai ahhaha
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 24 2024, 06:56 PM)
It's the first time I see a work plan with only date, without time.
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Water supply starts to be normal for many areas!
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1. PBAPP will temporarily rejoin the burst pipe tomorrow (Thu).
2. By 8am Fri, 84% of the consumers will receive water. Start to store water.
3. By 8am Sat, the remaining 16% of the consumers at end-of-line and high ground will receive water.
4. Everyone needs to store water by Mon (29-Jan).
5. All preparate work to connect the 2 new pipes will be completed by Mon.
6. Water will be disrupted again on Tue (30-Jan) to allow the installation of 2 new pipe and to cutoff the old underground water pipes.
7. By Wed (31-Jan), water restoration to 84% of the consumers.
8. By Thu (1-Feb), everyone gets water!!!
9. Thereafter, there will be no more water supply disruption from Sungai Perai
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Water supply starts to be normal for many areas!
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i saw people reporting started to have water supply, but latest PBAPP fb post said they having trouble to reclamp the pipeline, wonder whats going on here.


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i saw people reporting started to have water supply, but latest PBAPP fb post said they having trouble to reclamp the pipeline, wonder whats going on here.


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Possibly ppl in fb trying to create dissatisfaction among those who haven't get water?

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Possibly ppl  in fb trying to create dissatisfaction among those who haven't get water?
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Kerja-kerja di Sungai Perai.
Plan A:
Pengapit di bahagian atas telah dipasang dan adalah diharapkan pemasangan pengapit di bahagian bawah pada petang ini juga berjalan dengan lancar.
Plan B:
Sebanyak 70 peratus kerja telah disiapkan dan pemasangan paip kedua akan dibuat pada hari ini. Adalah diharapkan semua berjalan lancar dan siap pada tempoh lebih awal.
Dalam pada itu, lori-lori tangki sedang dimobilisasi sepenuhnya demi keperluan mereka yang terjejas.
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 25 2024, 10:48 AM)
Possibly ppl  in fb trying to create dissatisfaction among those who haven't get water?
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and PN/PuAS bots? whistling.gif
Or many be those at EoL? hmm.gif
As of 12noon many places on the Island have started to return to 80% normal.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 25 2024, 01:14 PM)
and PN/PuAS bots? whistling.gif
Or many be those at EoL? hmm.gif
As of 12noon many places on the Island have started to return to 80% normal.
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Relau and lip sin area already recovered according to news

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but probably just temporary as they still need to weld the bottom part?

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Plan A status
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ketika ini, kerja-kerja mengapit semula bahagian atas paip sepanjang 1,350 milimeter (mm) telah siap dijalankan.

“Walau bagaimanapun, kerja mengapit semula bahagian bawah paip yang bocor tidak dapat dijalankan pada malam tadi disebabkan berlakunya fenomena air pasang dan surut.

“Namun begitu, keadaan air sungai pada hari ini dilihat dalam keadaan baik dan membolehkan kerja mengapit semula bahagian paip bocor dimulakan dan dijangka siap pada petang ini juga.

“Sekiranya berjalan lancar, bekalan air kepada 84 peratus daripada 120,000 pengguna yang terkesan terutama di bahagian Barat Daya dan sebahagian Timur Laut dapat disalurkan semula seawal pagi esok (26 Januari).


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kerja-kerja pemasangan dua paip lencongan 600mm merentasi Sungai Perai di bahagian permukaan sungai kini siap 70 peratus.

Satu daripada dua paip berkenaan telah berjaya dipasang berdekatan jambatan Ampang Jajar, dan kita jangkakan kerja-kerja pemasangan kedua-dua paip lencongan akan siap pada 27 Januari (Sabtu) ini berbanding jangkaan awal, 29 Januari 2024.


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https://penang.chinapress.com.my/20240125/%...bf%a1%e8%8a%b1/
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Relau and lip sin area already recovered according to news

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but probably just temporary as they still need to weld the bottom part?
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Ya, you are right.
Looks like we are now a head of schedule of number 2.
QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 25 2024, 10:08 AM)
1. PBAPP will temporarily rejoin the burst pipe tomorrow (Thu).
2. By 8am Fri, 84% of the consumers will receive water. Start to store water.
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Plan A status
Plan B status
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Hopefully that bridge can take the stress of the tons of water! laugh.gif
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Ya, you are right.
Looks like we are now a head of schedule of number 2.
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seems like they able to get plan B done on 27th instead of 29th feb, not sure if they will still wait until 30Jan for the cut to connect new pipe, lets wait the official update from them
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Hopefully that bridge can take the stress of the tons of water! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 25 2024, 10:48 AM)
Possibly ppl  in fb trying to create dissatisfaction among those who haven't get water?
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No, it's true; Green Lane area's water supply has resumed.
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https://penang.chinapress.com.my/20240125/%...bf%a1%e8%8a%b1/
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Relau and lip sin area already recovered according to news

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but probably just temporary as they still need to weld the bottom part?
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Low pressure water, i also feel weird how come got water?
Is possibly can let low pressure water flow thru the pipe while clamping?

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Honestly plan B should have done no matter plan A works or not
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Honestly plan B should have done no matter plan A works or not
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Maybe PBA shouldn't have label as Plan A Plan B but Plan Apple and Plan Oranges as many people will be confused as A, B denote sequence.
But then oranges may trigger R&R issues. rclxub.gif

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Plan B already jalan 2 week ago.
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 25 2024, 02:27 PM)
Low pressure water, i also feel weird how come got water?
Is possibly can let low pressure water flow thru the pipe while clamping?
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Honestly plan B should have done no matter plan A works or not
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That's the plan. Both done at the same time. Once A kowtim, PBA to start supplying water so that consumers can refill their tong. Then cut off water again when they're ready to decommission the old line.

If A fails, ggwp.
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 25 2024, 02:27 PM)
Low pressure water, i also feel weird how come got water?
Is possibly can let low pressure water flow thru the pipe while clamping?
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Two possibilities I can think of:
1) the isolation valve is not tight (also known as passing) even when fully shut. This is very common for water service valves.

2) they purposely cracked open the isolation valve to maintain slightly positive pressure so that river water doesn't get inside the pipe and contaminate the content in the line. With this action, treated water leaks out and some may flow to consumers at the start of the pipeline.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 25 2024, 03:04 PM)
Inb4 itu ayaq Sg Perai masuk dalam paip.
That's the plan. Both done at the same time. Once A kowtim, PBA to start supplying water so that consumers can refill their tong. Then cut off water again when they're ready to decommission the old line.

If A fails, ggwp.
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Sg perai water full of aninals waste, fkkk
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Sg perai water full of aninals waste, fkkk
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I was joking lah, I think PBA knows better than to let that happen. Most likely they created positive pressure as explained above laugh.gif
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should PBA take over syabas?
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should PBA take over syabas?
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Protex! Protex! Protex!

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PuAS & PN will be up in Arms, Torches & Pitchforks!
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and that touristking will be so triggered! laugh.gif
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I was joking lah, I think PBA knows better than to let that happen. Most likely they created positive pressure as explained above laugh.gif
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Double check ur incoming water, some of my friends saying its not really clear waters, slightly yellowish

So better take mineral water for drinking for the time being
Especially if ur house had old ppl or babies
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 25 2024, 04:12 PM)
Double check ur incoming water, some of my friends saying its not really clear waters, slightly yellowish

So better take mineral water for drinking for the time being
Especially if ur house had old ppl or babies
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Dirty water may not necessarily mean it's from the river, although I certainly won't say it's 100% not river water since I am not involved or have observed the job.

Dirty water can be caused by rust or sediments inside existing pipelines that drop off when water stopped flowing.

You're right we should take extra precautions especially immediately after a prolonged disruption.
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On the night when we isolate sg perai pba did valve throttling to all the reservoir on island thats why some area not effected also got low pressure or no water for a couple of hours.

Now the storage at bukit dumbar already reach safe level to be pumped out to green lane and relau side. Butt of course if people use more water then storage deplete then water will cut off again to allow the storage to be fill up to a safe level before can release.

As for some in sg ara, batu maung and balik pulau still need to rely tanker.

Hopefully clamping work can be completed tonight
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 25 2024, 04:44 PM)
On the night when we isolate sg perai pba did valve throttling to all the reservoir on island thats why some area not effected also got low pressure or no water for a couple of hours.

Now the storage at bukit dumbar already reach safe level to be pumped out to green lane and relau side. Butt of course if people use more water then storage deplete then water will cut off again to allow the storage to be fill up to a safe level before can release.

As for some in sg ara, batu maung and balik pulau still need to rely tanker.

Hopefully clamping work can be completed tonight
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Dark storm clouds spotted in Bworth. sweat.gif
Hopefully no hamper Sungai Perai repairs works!
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Dark storm clouds spotted in Bworth. sweat.gif
Hopefully no hamper Sungai Perai repairs works!
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Dark storm clouds spotted in Bworth. sweat.gif
Hopefully no hamper Sungai Perai repairs works!
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Dark cloud is free water, prepare your water buckets.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 25 2024, 04:18 PM)
Dirty water may not necessarily mean it's from the river, although I certainly won't say it's 100% not river water since I am not involved or have observed the job.

Dirty water can be caused by rust or sediments inside existing pipelines that drop off when water stopped flowing.

You're right we should take extra precautions especially immediately after a prolonged disruption.
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Yea, normally initial batch or water surely will be bit muddy
Thats normal

I dont mean its river water

My family always only use the water for cooking n drinking 1 day after the water resume
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 25 2024, 04:44 PM)
On the night when we isolate sg perai pba did valve throttling to all the reservoir on island thats why some area not effected also got low pressure or no water for a couple of hours.

Now the storage at bukit dumbar already reach safe level to be pumped out to green lane and relau side. Butt of course if people use more water then storage deplete then water will cut off again to allow the storage to be fill up to a safe level before can release.

As for some in sg ara, batu maung and balik pulau still need to rely tanker.

Hopefully clamping work can be completed tonight
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Good update, thanks.

May I know, when the buffer tank at the pump house runs low, does PBA stop the pump(s) or put it on full recycling mode? Are these pumps driven by motors or turbines or both turbines and motors?

I can only imagine they're very huge pumps, so each start-stop will place huge current on the motor winding.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 25 2024, 05:34 PM)
Good update, thanks.

May I know, when the buffer tank at the pump house runs low, does PBA stop the pump(s) or put it on full recycling mode? Are these pumps driven by motors or turbines or both turbines and motors?

I can only imagine they're very huge pumps, so each start-stop will place huge current on the motor winding.
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Sorry bro, this technical question i tak dapat answer. Once the storage is too low the pumps will stop automatically.

Pba monitoring system is quite canggih one

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 25 2024, 04:44 PM)
On the night when we isolate sg perai pba did valve throttling to all the reservoir on island thats why some area not effected also got low pressure or no water for a couple of hours.

Now the storage at bukit dumbar already reach safe level to be pumped out to green lane and relau side. Butt of course if people use more water then storage deplete then water will cut off again to allow the storage to be fill up to a safe level before can release.

As for some in sg ara, batu maung and balik pulau still need to rely tanker.

Hopefully clamping work can be completed tonight
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you guys work 247 ka?

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you guys work 247 ka?
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and many people no appreciate these workers!

Slight interruptions already scold father mother!
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 25 2024, 06:14 PM)
and many people no appreciate these workers!

Slight interruptions already scold father mother!
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Frankly speaking the anger is towards those in mgmt level, not the workers.
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 25 2024, 06:09 PM)
Sorry bro, this technical question i tak dapat answer. Once the storage is too low the pumps will stop automatically.

Pba monitoring system is quite canggih one

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TQ bro. I asked because I am worried that those huge water pumps will upcar due to cavitation or frequent start stop.

Iirc the pump at Bkt Gedung (?) gave problem in 2022 after the flood at Baling knocked down the Sungai Dua WTP. This caused additional delay to Sg Ara folks after the WTP was successfully started up.
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Once again, pray for their safety, especially the divers

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I thought CKY says Plan A was completed at 4pm on Thur 25th ? Why at 10pm still "Plan A 1in progress" ?
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I thought CKY says Plan A was completed at 4pm on Thur 25th ?  Why at 10pm still "Plan A 1in progress"  ?
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Can't be. Pba posted news about them stopping work temporarily due to heavy rain, and they continued again after that.
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BUTTERWORTH: Work to fix the clamps to repair the leak in the 1,350-millimetre (mm) underwater pipe in Sungai Perai here is expected to be completed by 4 pm today, said Chief Minister Chow Kon Yeow.

This is despite the difficulties faced by the divers, who have to deal with the strong current at the bottom of the river.

https://thesun.my/local_news/chow-work-to-c...oday-IB12029346

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QUOTE(ssmui @ Jan 26 2024, 12:36 AM)
BUTTERWORTH: Work to fix the clamps to repair the leak in the 1,350-millimetre (mm) underwater pipe in Sungai Perai here is expected to be completed by 4 pm today, said Chief Minister Chow Kon Yeow.

This is despite the difficulties faced by the divers, who have to deal with the strong current at the bottom of the river.

https://thesun.my/local_news/chow-work-to-c...oday-IB12029346
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Keyword: expected

There was heavy rain & the fact that the leakage occurs below the river water surface complicated things by leaps.

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QUOTE(ssmui @ Jan 26 2024, 12:23 AM)
I thought CKY says Plan A was completed at 4pm on Thur 25th ?  Why at 10pm still "Plan A 1in progress"  ?
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But the article you posted says "expected".

QUOTE(ssmui @ Jan 26 2024, 12:36 AM)
BUTTERWORTH: Work to fix the clamps to repair the leak in the 1,350-millimetre (mm) underwater pipe in Sungai Perai here is expected to be completed by 4 pm today, said Chief Minister Chow Kon Yeow.

This is despite the difficulties faced by the divers, who have to deal with the strong current at the bottom of the river.

https://thesun.my/local_news/chow-work-to-c...oday-IB12029346
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Any reason why that stretch of water main was installed underwater? Technically difficulty? Cost saving?

If they able to clamp the broken pipe which means the pipe itself is not buried in soil but just underwater level?
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QUOTE(gaman @ Jan 26 2024, 08:42 AM)
Any reason why that stretch of water main was installed underwater? Technically difficulty? Cost saving?

If they able to clamp the broken pipe which means the pipe itself is not buried in soil but just underwater level?
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I think 27 years ago there was no bridge. To build above surface, they would have to build a pipe support structure which might be very expensive kot.

That pipe is located at 3.5m underwater, iirc it's on the river bed.
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QUOTE(gaman @ Jan 26 2024, 08:42 AM)
Any reason why that stretch of water main was installed underwater? Technically difficulty? Cost saving?

If they able to clamp the broken pipe which means the pipe itself is not buried in soil but just underwater level?
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Think this pipe was done before many of us were born.
Maybe Burningsunz can correct me and give some insight.

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 25 2024, 09:01 AM)
PuAS & PN will be up in Arms, Torches & Pitchforks!
Protex! Protex! Protex!

and that touristking will be so triggered! laugh.gif
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Have you come across a government that deliberately deny the people clean water? Penang and Selangor both have the money but refuses to do any advanced water planning.


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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 26 2024, 09:05 AM)
Have you come across a government that deliberately deny the people clean water? Penang and Selangor both have the money but refuses to do any advanced water planning.
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Damn! Talk about shooting your own foot awal pagi! laugh.gif
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I'm afraid I am with him this time.
Think about it:
1) whole of DBD including the all important FTZ only depends on one WTP(from mainland some more) and one pipeline. Has PBA announced any backup plan?

2) undersea pipelines: any plan to run parallel/spare lines along first bridge in case the undersea line leaks?

3) 1350mm line leaks and they did not mention when it was last inspected and its mean time between failures (MTBF).
What other potential failures should we expect to bite us in the ass suddenly?

I get it that they inherit this legacy but a government cannot keep using "oh, we inherited it" as justification for doing nothing. If they already have a plan, announce it for goodness sake.
All these water interruptions will have impact on manufacturing industry and investor's confidence.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 09:21 AM)
I'm afraid I am with him this time.
Think about it:
1) whole of DBD including the all important FTZ only depends on one WTP(from mainland some more) and one pipeline. Has PBA announced any backup plan?

2) undersea pipelines: any plan to run parallel/spare lines along first bridge in case the undersea line leaks?

3) 1350mm line leaks and they did not mention when it was last inspected and its mean time between failures (MTBF).
What other potential failures should we expect to bite us in the ass suddenly?

I get it that they inherit this legacy but a government cannot keep using "oh, we inherited it" as justification for doing nothing. If they already have a plan, announce it for goodness sake.
All these water interruptions will have impact on manufacturing industry and investor's confidence.
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Does this only apply to Penang & Selangor?
Other states other rules, different goal post?
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 26 2024, 08:59 AM)
Think this pipe was done before many of us were born.
Maybe Burningsunz can correct me and give some insight.
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This pipe is about 20 years i think.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 26 2024, 09:24 AM)
Does this only apply to Penang & Selangor?
Other states other rules, different goal post?
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I get what you are hinting at but I'm specifically referring to Png.
In Selangor, frequent cuts are par for the course.

You can criticise all other states but it doesn't change the fact I mentioned above.
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QUOTE(gaman @ Jan 26 2024, 08:42 AM)
Any reason why that stretch of water main was installed underwater? Technically difficulty? Cost saving?

If they able to clamp the broken pipe which means the pipe itself is not buried in soil but just underwater level?
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This is not new method but is used even in 1st world country. There are 2 methods:
1) Dig a trench and lay the pipe on river bed
2) Bore underneath river and channel the pipe

Expert would say trenching method is temporary but usually temporary is forgotten until something happened laugh.gif Obviously, the cost is much cheaper than boring underneath.
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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 26 2024, 10:05 AM)
Have you come across a government that deliberately deny the people clean water? Penang and Selangor both have the money but refuses to do any advanced water planning.
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i know i know....if pee n is the gov..
pee also can become perfume..
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Hard for you to believe but yes, if BN was in charge of water like Selangor, there will be no water shortage.


In 2009 Federal BN informed Selangor PH that water shortage will occur by 2014. Advise Selangor PH to start building Langat2

Selangor PH insisted water shortage will only occur by 2019 so no need to built Langat2.

2014. Selangor start to experience water shortage and only agree to build Langat 2 in 2015



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Seems like Plan B getting done earlier, they will connect the 2x600mm pipeline on Sunday 28th Jan instead



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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 26 2024, 02:09 AM)
Damn! Talk about shooting your own foot awal pagi! laugh.gif
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For Selangor, water shortage fault lies with Selangor PH. Penang probably same issue.
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Latest update:
1) changed diving team at 0200hours. No update on clamping work progress

2) as mentioned by Burningsunz, Bkt Dumbar pump house started operating at 1200hr yesterday, supplying water to 15,000-20,000 out of the 120,000 affected accounts.
How long it'll last, tatau. So keep storing water.

3) temporary lines expected to be joined on Sunday instead of Tue. Ayam not sure whether it just means fully tied in and main leaking line decommissioned, or ready to cut water again to decommission the leaking line.

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 09:21 AM)
I'm afraid I am with him this time.
Think about it:
1) whole of DBD including the all important FTZ only depends on one WTP(from mainland some more) and one pipeline. Has PBA announced any backup plan?

2) undersea pipelines: any plan to run parallel/spare lines along first bridge in case the undersea line leaks?

3) 1350mm line leaks and they did not mention when it was last inspected and its mean time between failures (MTBF).
What other potential failures should we expect to bite us in the ass suddenly?

I get it that they inherit this legacy but a government cannot keep using "oh, we inherited it" as justification for doing nothing. If they already have a plan, announce it for goodness sake.
All these water interruptions will have impact on manufacturing industry and investor's confidence.
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I found something in PBAPP website
https://pba.com.my/3rd-ptsp/

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 26 2024, 10:10 AM)
Hard for you to believe but yes, if BN was in charge of water like Selangor, there will be no water shortage.
In 2009 Federal BN informed Selangor PH that water shortage will occur by 2014. Advise Selangor PH to start building Langat2

Selangor PH insisted water shortage will only occur by 2019 so no need to built Langat2.

2014. Selangor start to experience water shortage and only agree to build Langat 2 in 2015
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Why don't you also talk about Kelantan? Don't you get tired of repeating it like a broken record?
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Seems like this thread turned into politic talks, time to abandon thread
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Jan 26 2024, 10:14 AM)
I found something in PBAPP website
https://pba.com.my/3rd-ptsp/

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Interesting find, tq. It's comforting to know.

No issues when the 1st PTSP is eventually decommissioned (after 50 years of service).

Is this first set supposed to be decommissioned last year, since it's built in 1973? So we're left with 2 sets? Now, are these 2 sets complementing each other or act as backup for one another?
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 10:20 AM)
Interesting find, tq. It's comforting to know.

No issues when the 1st PTSP is eventually decommissioned (after 50 years of service).

Is this first set supposed to be decommissioned last year, since it's built in 1973? So we're left with 2 sets? Now, are these 2 sets complementing each other or act as backup for one another?
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No idea, wish i have more time digging for more info, but im working right now biggrin.gif

Anyway for penang lang who wish to see update from this thread,

PBAPP WILL CONNECT NEW TEMPORARY PIPELINE ON 28th JAN (SUNDAY)


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28 Feb or 28 Jan?
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sorry my fault, sudah gila akibat tak mandi
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Ur place still No water meh? Sg ara?

My friends sg nibong & lipsin, relau all gott water since yesterday evening
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Sg Ara Penang no water since Tue 23Jan2024  6pm
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My colleague wedding dinner this Sunday night, if direct no water until Monday, habis la

Really spoiler for such important day
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My colleague wedding dinner this Sunday night, if direct no water until Monday, habis la

Really spoiler for such important day
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Where the venue?
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Where the venue?
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Georgetown
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So far, I know Georgetown not water problem.
That one day only very very low pressure.

Best your colleague check with the venue people.
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2 clamp done. Now trying to fix the last clamp. To fix 1 clamp need about 6 hours
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Why don't you also talk about Kelantan? Don't you get tired of repeating it like a broken record?
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Kelantan has no money.

Selangor is one of the richest state with money but still prefer to let raykat suffer.



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Seems like this thread turned into politic talks, time to abandon thread
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You don't know PH was the 1st to turn water into politic? That happens as far back as 2009 Langat 2 water treatment plant case. And that was why Selangor frequently no water starting from 2014


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Why don't you also talk about Kelantan? Don't you get tired of repeating it like a broken record?
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So you are saying. PH run state are no better than PAS run state. So why so many people say PAS no good?

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 26 2024, 02:06 PM)
2 clamp done. Now trying to fix the last clamp. To fix 1 clamp need about 6 hours
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Also need to weld the three of them together, right? Since the original clamp was cut into 3 pieces.

Btw, what's the level of the storage at Bkt Dumbar pumphouse? How long can it last before needing to shutdown again?

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when will water resume after Monday?
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when will water resume after Monday?
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That is for water interruption to connect the diversion pipe.

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That is for water interruption to connect the diversion pipe.
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yes i know. how long will it take for water to resume after (Plan B) Monday?

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yes i know. how long will it take for water to resume after (Plan B) Monday?
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Connection should be done on the same day i think, but of course for full recovery depends.


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yes i know. how long will it take for water to resume after (Plan B) Monday?
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For Plan B

11:30pm 29 Jan 2024 (Monday) Water Cut
3:30pm 30 Jan 2024 (Tuesday) Water resume for 84% affected resident
3:30pm 31 Jan 2024 (Wednesday) Remaining 16% EOL/high ground resident





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On pba fb page, many consumers are still without water. They're very concerned about the tight (if any) window to store water for Plan B. Kesian wei.
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That is for water interruption to connect the diversion pipe.
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I see they have new isolation valves for the 600mm stubs where they will tie-in the new lines. With the valves in place, why is there a need to down the main line to connect?

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 06:57 PM)
On pba fb page, many consumers are still without water. They're very concerned about the tight (if any) window to store water for Plan B. Kesian wei.
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Sad sg ara noises, I also very worried our window might not be long enough to store water, if at all. After water operations resume, we always take 1 extra day to reach us. And while water cuts at 1130pm monday, we can expect majority upstream users to panic store, so most likely our water will be cut off even earlier
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Sad sg ara noises, I also very worried our window might not be long enough to store water, if at all. After water operations resume, we always take 1 extra day to reach us. And while water cuts at 1130pm monday, we can expect majority upstream users to panic store, so most likely our water will be cut off even earlier
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Indeed. First to lose water pressure, last to get back supply.
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Sad sg ara noises, I also very worried our window might not be long enough to store water, if at all. After water operations resume, we always take 1 extra day to reach us. And while water cuts at 1130pm monday, we can expect majority upstream users to panic store, so most likely our water will be cut off even earlier
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 07:08 PM)
Indeed. First to lose water pressure, last to get back supply.
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Pba fb latest update, Plan A clamping is done



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Pba fb latest update, Plan A clamping is done
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Great. Based on the plan, those EOL customers have 24 hours to prepare for the next water cut for Plan B.
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I see they have new isolation valves for the 600mm stubs where they will tie-in the new lines. With the valves in place, why is there a need to down the main line to connect?

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most likely shutting down water supply for disconnecting the main line, and since they both already readily "connected", the down time should be shorter.

Also, need to test rite? gradual increase pressure... inb4 kaboom once turn on because cant take the pressure or the welding is not done probably because of rushing LOL
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Jan 26 2024, 08:30 PM)
Pba fb latest update, Plan A clamping is done


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Great. Based on the plan, those EOL customers have 24 hours to prepare for the next water cut for Plan B.
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Dont worry la,
If eol users cant manage to get to store water, surely pba can postpone it for a day

Initially bring ahead is just because worry plan A unsuccessful
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Jan 26 2024, 09:08 PM)
most likely shutting down water supply for disconnecting the main line, and since they both already readily "connected", the down time should be shorter.

Also, need to test rite? gradual increase pressure... inb4 kaboom once turn on because cant take the pressure or the welding is not done probably because of rushing LOL
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I have some knowledge in planning for such work. When we plan to down something to do something, there will be questions asked by the "challengers" -
-why do you need to shutdown the line to join the new line if you already put in the isolation valves?
- If you intend to shutdown the main line, why do you put in the new isolation valves? laugh.gif

If you only need to shutdown to chop off or insert blind on the main line to decommission it, you should not put "shutdown to tie in new line" but "shutdown to decommission the leaking section".

I find it very confusing.

QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 26 2024, 09:33 PM)
Dont worry la,
If eol users cant manage to get to store water, surely pba can postpone it for a day

Initially bring ahead is just because worry plan A unsuccessful
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Congratulations on being promoted to CEO 😄

Jokes aside, this should be done and communicated to the people affected. You see people grumbling and sounded their worry about not able to prepare for Plan B water cut. At least say something to allay their fear mah.

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 09:48 PM)
I have some knowledge in planning for such work. When we plan to down something to do something, there will be questions asked by the "challengers" -
-why do you need to shutdown the line to join the new line if you already put in the isolation valves?
-  If you intend to shutdown the main line, why do you put in the new isolation valves? laugh.gif

If you only need to shutdown to chop off or insert blind on the main line to decommission it, you should not put "shutdown to tie in new line" but "shutdown to decommission the leaking section".

I find it very confusing.

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- sebab boleh dik
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 09:48 PM)
I have some knowledge in planning for such work. When we plan to down something to do something, there will be questions asked by the "challengers" -
-why do you need to shutdown the line to join the new line if you already put in the isolation valves?
-  If you intend to shutdown the main line, why do you put in the new isolation valves? laugh.gif

If you only need to shutdown to chop off or insert blind on the main line to decommission it, you should not put "shutdown to tie in new line" but "shutdown to decommission the leaking section".

I find it very confusing.
Congratulations on being promoted to CEO 😄

Jokes aside, this should be done and communicated to the people affected. You see people grumbling and sounded their worry about not able to prepare for Plan B water cut. At least say something to allay their fear mah.
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Emergency stuff like this dont care lar, janji got post to tell people they gonna cut off the water, and believe me, later sure got people who dont read will bombard their fb again asking why no water "suddenly".

Must let people scare a bit, because most Penangite have zero crisis awareness, all last minute one, you see last time scheduled water disruption, already informed 1 month before, end up what happen? majority last day only want to start store water, then cry why water supply was "cut off" earlier than planned time doh.gif
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 07:01 PM)
I see they have new isolation valves for the 600mm stubs where they will tie-in the new lines. With the valves in place, why is there a need to down the main line to connect?

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Cause need to cut off the line below the sg perai and seal it off.
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Jan 26 2024, 10:25 PM)
Emergency stuff like this dont care lar, janji got post to tell people they gonna cut off the water, and believe me, later sure got people who dont read will bombard their fb again asking why no water "suddenly".

Must let people scare a bit, because most Penangite have zero crisis awareness, all last minute one, you see last time scheduled water disruption, already informed 1 month before, end up what happen? majority last day only want to start store water, then cry why water supply was "cut off" earlier than planned time  doh.gif
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You have a point there. Actually I feel that either the awareness is not there or PBA hasn't explained enough to them. Until today, I still read comments like "why still bother with Plan A, should start with Plan B mah", or something like "see, want to find shortcut by clamping instead of changing the line, now clamping failed liao baru kelam-kabut want to change the line (600mm x 2)".
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Water cutoff for Plan B connection has been fast forwarded one day (Sunday 11:30pm). Gg, water hasnt even arrived for most bayan lepas, and even if it does come, the upstream panic store will cause the end of line without a chance to store.
The worst part is, if plan B implementation has leaks or mishaps, its another 3-4 days.
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Still no water since yesterday

How u all survive more than 1 day
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Still no water since yesterday

How u all survive more than 1 day
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No water since tues.... guess at one point you just go ultra survivalist mode on the current water rations you have. My house prepared for the worst (4-6) days , didnt expect it to be the norm.
Saw kids under the hot sun queueing up for water from the truck, man I feel so bad for them. Does chief hamper even know the extend of misery he has failed to prevent.

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Still no water since yesterday

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Where are you located at? A bit weird that you lost your water supply so late.
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Where are you located at? A bit weird that you lost your water supply so late.
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condo at bayan lepas all mostly have water tank

In fact the previous water lost, my side here all 4 days have water.

Only this time since emergency, never ask to ration water etc. so only yesterday started
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What's the latest update. Balik kampung now. Hopefully come back on Sunday night will have water.
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jan 27 2024, 01:31 PM)
condo at bayan lepas all mostly have water tank

In fact the previous water lost, my side here all 4 days have water.

Only this time since emergency, never ask to ration water etc. so only yesterday started
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Ah I see. E-Park just had their water supply resumed so it shouldn't take too long for you I guess.

QUOTE(Koranshita @ Jan 27 2024, 02:24 PM)
What's the latest update. Balik kampung now. Hopefully come back on Sunday night will have water.
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They're going to stop water supply again on Monday 11.30pm. Depending on where's your location, you might need to wait for 2 days after that to have your water supply resumed.
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 27 2024, 02:31 PM)
Ah I see. E-Park just had their water supply resumed so it shouldn't take too long for you I guess.
They're going to stop water supply again on Monday 11.30pm. Depending on where's your location, you might need to wait for 2 days after that to have your water supply resumed.
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My location is as stopped since Tuesday. Apartment water tank dry up on Wednesday night.. tahan Thursday and Friday with own water tank and run away to hometown today. If close again In Monday meaning continuos no water till next week. Fuyoh 1 week+ no water.

Anyhow I still ok. Kesian my neighborss. They have kids and elderly. Today many ppl go swimming pool take water for cleaning purpose
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QUOTE(Koranshita @ Jan 27 2024, 03:56 PM)
My location is as stopped since Tuesday. Apartment water tank dry up on Wednesday night.. tahan Thursday and Friday with own water tank and run away to hometown today. If close again In Monday meaning continuos no water till next week. Fuyoh 1 week+ no water.

Anyhow I still ok. Kesian my neighborss. They have kids and elderly. Today many ppl go swimming pool take water for cleaning purpose
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Wash okay. Dont drink. Got chlorine inside. Not safe for drinking lar.
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post Jan 27 2024, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jan 27 2024, 02:31 PM)
condo at bayan lepas all mostly have water tank

In fact the previous water lost, my side here all 4 days have water.

Only this time since emergency, never ask to ration water etc. so only yesterday started
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Condo if dont have so many population, water tank can last quite long one.

Mine one last time 5-6 days max if cut water.
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post Jan 27 2024, 05:58 PM

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Wtf, Sg Ara still no water, DAP mention saturday will fully recover and faster than expected.

Well this is a joke, many places still have no water since last wednesday…


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post Jan 27 2024, 06:14 PM

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good la, your chow kon Yeoh totally forgot about Sg Ara folks lol



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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 27 2024, 05:15 PM)
Condo if dont have so many population, water tank can last quite long one.

Mine one last time 5-6 days max if cut water.
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If yours very atas condo ok kot

Mine low population also 3 days max
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post Jan 27 2024, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ Jan 27 2024, 05:58 PM)
Wtf, Sg Ara still no water, DAP mention saturday will fully recover and faster than expected.

Well this is a joke, many places still have no water since wednesday…

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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ Jan 27 2024, 06:14 PM)
good la, your chow kon yeow yoy totally forgot about Sg Ara folks lol


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Lel when selangor had problem most ppl here ketawa. Well karma strikes
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 27 2024, 05:14 PM)
Wash okay. Dont drink. Got chlorine inside. Not safe for drinking lar.
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Chlorine is also bad for skin and teeth. That's the reason we shower after swimming. But I suppose when really desperate, better than nothing.
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post Jan 28 2024, 11:35 AM

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Thanks PBA water supply resume 8.45am this morning at Changkat Sungai Ara Penang
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post Jan 28 2024, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(ssmui @ Jan 28 2024, 11:35 AM)
Thanks PBA water supply resume 8.45am this morning at Changkat Sungai Ara Penang
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Management say Monday will shut again. So be prepare again
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QUOTE(Koranshita @ Jan 28 2024, 11:38 AM)
Management say Monday will shut again. So be prepare again
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Yup
Based on PBA’s latest statement:
https://www.facebook.com/share/uvLwNhXT2eJV...mibextid=Cx5MWH

Here is what’s going to happen:

A Scheduled Water Interruption is to take place this 𝐌𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝟐𝟗/𝟏 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝟏𝟏.𝟑𝟎 𝐩𝐦.

It is part of Plan B: the installation of a diversion pipe. Water supply will only resume between
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Currently I have water, but the pressure is not as strong as usual. Is this supposed to be the case?
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QUOTE(estacado @ Jan 28 2024, 02:47 PM)
Currently I have water, but the pressure is not as strong as usual. Is this supposed to be the case?
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Depends on your location and your high rise building pump.
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QUOTE(estacado @ Jan 28 2024, 02:47 PM)
Currently I have water, but the pressure is not as strong as usual. Is this supposed to be the case?
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I think that's normal, considering the fact that a lot of people in DBD just got their supply back so they'll all be storing water for this coming Mondays's disruption, clearing their pile of laundry & whatnots.
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Water disruption for Plan B is deferred a day later (Tuesday night 11.30pm).
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 28 2024, 03:47 PM)
I think that's normal, considering the fact that a lot of people in DBD just got their supply back so they'll all be storing water for this coming Mondays's disruption, clearing their pile of laundry & whatnots.
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so delay the water disruption to Tues for ppl to store, clear pile of laundry & wat not.
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6.00AM, Rabu, 31.1.2024
PELAN B: Tindakan Respons Kecemasan Sungai Perai.
Kerja pelencongan saluran paip di tapak Sungai Perai selesai.


6.00AM, Wednesday, 31.1.2024
PLAN B: Sungai Perai Emergency Response.
Pipeline diversion works at the Sungai Perai site completed.
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https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QigMEgdXyn...mibextid=qi2Omg

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QUOTE(bass4focus @ Jan 30 2024, 01:19 PM)
This is one time I would be so happy to be called retarded. I hope you are right. That would be a big relief.
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So how your place have water supply already or not? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 1 2024, 06:17 AM)
So how your place have water supply already or not?  hmm.gif
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My place water supply was uninterrupted as in previous incidents of pipe burst. Probably due to our pump house located on lower ground.

Based on the feedback so far, looks like everyone is on their way to getting back their water supply.

Happily, I admit I was retarded to worry at all.😄

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QUOTE(bass4focus @ Feb 1 2024, 06:36 AM)
My place water supply was uninterrupted as in previous incidents of pipe burst. Probably due to our pump house located on lower ground.

Based on the feedback so far, looks like everyone is on their way to getting back their water supply.

Happily, I admit I was retarded to worry at all.😄
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Glad to hear that your water supply is normalise.
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post Feb 1 2024, 08:06 AM

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Thanks for update!! This weekend can come Penang without worry
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Feb 1 2024, 08:06 AM)
Thanks for update!! This weekend can come Penang without worry
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dont come penang jam kao the road lar rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(bass4focus @ Feb 1 2024, 06:36 AM)
My place water supply was uninterrupted as in previous incidents of pipe burst. Probably due to our pump house located on lower ground.

Based on the feedback so far, looks like everyone is on their way to getting back their water supply.

Happily, I admit I was retarded to worry at all.😄
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Whats the difference pump at lower or upper of building?
If upper not enuf power?
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So, any difference in the water supply with the smaller 2 X 600mm pipes since 1 Feb 2024 versus the larger 1 X 1350mm pipe from before Jan 2024.?
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 23 2024, 05:35 PM)
5.00petang, 23.1.2024

KEJADIAN DI SUNGAI PERAI
Satu kejadian mengejut telah berlaku di Sungai Perai. PBAPP telah mengesan kebocoran besar secara mendadak pada bahagian saluran paip bawah permukaan air 1,350mm. PBAPP sedang berusaha untuk mengepam air melalui saluran paip pada aliran minimum. Langkah ini mungkin akan membawa kepada gangguan bekalan air kepada kira-kira 200,000 pengguna di Daerah Barat Daya (Daerah Barat Daya atau DBD) di Pulau Pinang dan beberapa kawasan di Seberang Perai. Sila ambil perhatian bahawa ini adalah "kejadian mendadak" dan bukan gangguan bekalan air berjadual yang dilakukan oleh PBAPP. PBAPP telah mengaktifkan pelan respons kecemasannya. Kami akan menyiarkan kemas kini sewajarnya.
Terima kasih.

5.00pm, 23.1.2024
MISHAP AT SUNGAI PERAI
A sudden mishap has occurred at Sungai Perai. PBAPP has detected a sudden major leak on the 1,350mm underwater pipeline section. PBAPP is striving to pump water through the pipeline at minimal flow.

This exercise is likely to lead towards a water supply disruption for about 200,000 consumers in the South-West District (Daerah Barat Daya or DBD) on Penang Island and some areas in Seberang Perai.

Please note that this is a “sudden mishap” and not a scheduled water supply interruption initiated by PBAPP.* PBAPP has activated its emergency response plan. We will post updates accordingly.
Thank You.

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Did they complete the new permanent pipes over the river?
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Tak malu. 🤭
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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Sep 30 2024, 05:00 PM)
Did they complete the new permanent pipes over the river?
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Yes.
Recently pipe burst near Politeknik Seberang Perai was due to negligence by 3rd party contractors.
Hopefully PBA will sue the principal & recover the cost.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 30 2024, 05:21 PM)
Yes.
Recently pipe burst near Politeknik Seberang Perai was due to negligence by 3rd party contractors.
Hopefully PBA will sue the principal & recover the cost.
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now they have 2 piappiap route? one piap temporari over the bridge and one piap permanent over the water?

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