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 Penang water pipe burst again!, Pls dun come to Pg for this weekend?

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post Jan 26 2024, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 26 2024, 05:21 PM)
That is for water interruption to connect the diversion pipe.
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yes i know. how long will it take for water to resume after (Plan B) Monday?

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post Jan 26 2024, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jan 26 2024, 05:40 PM)
yes i know. how long will it take for water to resume after (Plan B) Monday?
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Connection should be done on the same day i think, but of course for full recovery depends.


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post Jan 26 2024, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jan 26 2024, 05:40 PM)
yes i know. how long will it take for water to resume after (Plan B) Monday?
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For Plan B

11:30pm 29 Jan 2024 (Monday) Water Cut
3:30pm 30 Jan 2024 (Tuesday) Water resume for 84% affected resident
3:30pm 31 Jan 2024 (Wednesday) Remaining 16% EOL/high ground resident





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post Jan 26 2024, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 26 2024, 04:40 PM)
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On pba fb page, many consumers are still without water. They're very concerned about the tight (if any) window to store water for Plan B. Kesian wei.
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 26 2024, 05:21 PM)
That is for water interruption to connect the diversion pipe.
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I see they have new isolation valves for the 600mm stubs where they will tie-in the new lines. With the valves in place, why is there a need to down the main line to connect?

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post Jan 26 2024, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 06:57 PM)
On pba fb page, many consumers are still without water. They're very concerned about the tight (if any) window to store water for Plan B. Kesian wei.
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Sad sg ara noises, I also very worried our window might not be long enough to store water, if at all. After water operations resume, we always take 1 extra day to reach us. And while water cuts at 1130pm monday, we can expect majority upstream users to panic store, so most likely our water will be cut off even earlier
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QUOTE(Godsweirdson @ Jan 26 2024, 07:06 PM)
Sad sg ara noises, I also very worried our window might not be long enough to store water, if at all. After water operations resume, we always take 1 extra day to reach us. And while water cuts at 1130pm monday, we can expect majority upstream users to panic store, so most likely our water will be cut off even earlier
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Indeed. First to lose water pressure, last to get back supply.
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post Jan 26 2024, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(Godsweirdson @ Jan 26 2024, 07:06 PM)
Sad sg ara noises, I also very worried our window might not be long enough to store water, if at all. After water operations resume, we always take 1 extra day to reach us. And while water cuts at 1130pm monday, we can expect majority upstream users to panic store, so most likely our water will be cut off even earlier
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 07:08 PM)
Indeed. First to lose water pressure, last to get back supply.
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Pba fb latest update, Plan A clamping is done



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post Jan 26 2024, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Jan 26 2024, 08:30 PM)
Pba fb latest update, Plan A clamping is done
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Great. Based on the plan, those EOL customers have 24 hours to prepare for the next water cut for Plan B.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 07:01 PM)
I see they have new isolation valves for the 600mm stubs where they will tie-in the new lines. With the valves in place, why is there a need to down the main line to connect?

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most likely shutting down water supply for disconnecting the main line, and since they both already readily "connected", the down time should be shorter.

Also, need to test rite? gradual increase pressure... inb4 kaboom once turn on because cant take the pressure or the welding is not done probably because of rushing LOL
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post Jan 26 2024, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Jan 26 2024, 08:30 PM)
Pba fb latest update, Plan A clamping is done


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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 08:54 PM)
Great. Based on the plan, those EOL customers have 24 hours to prepare for the next water cut for Plan B.
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Dont worry la,
If eol users cant manage to get to store water, surely pba can postpone it for a day

Initially bring ahead is just because worry plan A unsuccessful
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Jan 26 2024, 09:08 PM)
most likely shutting down water supply for disconnecting the main line, and since they both already readily "connected", the down time should be shorter.

Also, need to test rite? gradual increase pressure... inb4 kaboom once turn on because cant take the pressure or the welding is not done probably because of rushing LOL
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I have some knowledge in planning for such work. When we plan to down something to do something, there will be questions asked by the "challengers" -
-why do you need to shutdown the line to join the new line if you already put in the isolation valves?
- If you intend to shutdown the main line, why do you put in the new isolation valves? laugh.gif

If you only need to shutdown to chop off or insert blind on the main line to decommission it, you should not put "shutdown to tie in new line" but "shutdown to decommission the leaking section".

I find it very confusing.

QUOTE(LA773 @ Jan 26 2024, 09:33 PM)
Dont worry la,
If eol users cant manage to get to store water, surely pba can postpone it for a day

Initially bring ahead is just because worry plan A unsuccessful
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Congratulations on being promoted to CEO 😄

Jokes aside, this should be done and communicated to the people affected. You see people grumbling and sounded their worry about not able to prepare for Plan B water cut. At least say something to allay their fear mah.

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post Jan 26 2024, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 09:48 PM)
I have some knowledge in planning for such work. When we plan to down something to do something, there will be questions asked by the "challengers" -
-why do you need to shutdown the line to join the new line if you already put in the isolation valves?
-  If you intend to shutdown the main line, why do you put in the new isolation valves? laugh.gif

If you only need to shutdown to chop off or insert blind on the main line to decommission it, you should not put "shutdown to tie in new line" but "shutdown to decommission the leaking section".

I find it very confusing.

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Ayam oso have some experience in planning for such work. and there is some answers by "defenders" to "chalengers" questions -
- sebab boleh dik
- jgn tanya soalan susah
- lu tak suka, lu balik tongsan
- masili baru ada serbis free 5 tahun
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 09:48 PM)
I have some knowledge in planning for such work. When we plan to down something to do something, there will be questions asked by the "challengers" -
-why do you need to shutdown the line to join the new line if you already put in the isolation valves?
-  If you intend to shutdown the main line, why do you put in the new isolation valves? laugh.gif

If you only need to shutdown to chop off or insert blind on the main line to decommission it, you should not put "shutdown to tie in new line" but "shutdown to decommission the leaking section".

I find it very confusing.
Congratulations on being promoted to CEO 😄

Jokes aside, this should be done and communicated to the people affected. You see people grumbling and sounded their worry about not able to prepare for Plan B water cut. At least say something to allay their fear mah.
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Emergency stuff like this dont care lar, janji got post to tell people they gonna cut off the water, and believe me, later sure got people who dont read will bombard their fb again asking why no water "suddenly".

Must let people scare a bit, because most Penangite have zero crisis awareness, all last minute one, you see last time scheduled water disruption, already informed 1 month before, end up what happen? majority last day only want to start store water, then cry why water supply was "cut off" earlier than planned time doh.gif
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 26 2024, 07:01 PM)
I see they have new isolation valves for the 600mm stubs where they will tie-in the new lines. With the valves in place, why is there a need to down the main line to connect?

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Cause need to cut off the line below the sg perai and seal it off.
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Jan 26 2024, 10:25 PM)
Emergency stuff like this dont care lar, janji got post to tell people they gonna cut off the water, and believe me, later sure got people who dont read will bombard their fb again asking why no water "suddenly".

Must let people scare a bit, because most Penangite have zero crisis awareness, all last minute one, you see last time scheduled water disruption, already informed 1 month before, end up what happen? majority last day only want to start store water, then cry why water supply was "cut off" earlier than planned time  doh.gif
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You have a point there. Actually I feel that either the awareness is not there or PBA hasn't explained enough to them. Until today, I still read comments like "why still bother with Plan A, should start with Plan B mah", or something like "see, want to find shortcut by clamping instead of changing the line, now clamping failed liao baru kelam-kabut want to change the line (600mm x 2)".
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post Jan 27 2024, 12:21 PM

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Water cutoff for Plan B connection has been fast forwarded one day (Sunday 11:30pm). Gg, water hasnt even arrived for most bayan lepas, and even if it does come, the upstream panic store will cause the end of line without a chance to store.
The worst part is, if plan B implementation has leaks or mishaps, its another 3-4 days.
Stay strong bayan lepas unsure.gif
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post Jan 27 2024, 12:23 PM

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Still no water since yesterday

How u all survive more than 1 day
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post Jan 27 2024, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jan 27 2024, 12:23 PM)
Still no water since yesterday

How u all survive more than 1 day
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No water since tues.... guess at one point you just go ultra survivalist mode on the current water rations you have. My house prepared for the worst (4-6) days , didnt expect it to be the norm.
Saw kids under the hot sun queueing up for water from the truck, man I feel so bad for them. Does chief hamper even know the extend of misery he has failed to prevent.

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post Jan 27 2024, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jan 27 2024, 12:23 PM)
Still no water since yesterday

How u all survive more than 1 day
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Where are you located at? A bit weird that you lost your water supply so late.

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