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post Jan 10 2024, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 10 2024, 09:33 PM)
Basically the glass door with aluminium frame already block all insects and animal, just that they can still come in if you keep the door open for ventilation, and your neighbour at the back can see the interior of your house. So I never see any neighbour open the door, including myself. At most when relative or friend come and want to go out to see the back linear garden.
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The glass door like this?
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post Jan 10 2024, 11:48 PM

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All in all, as long as the property is under strata title, ANY external work will require permission from the management body. I mean ANY work including slight painting with a change of color.

No permission granted = Prohibited

Got good and bad lor. Good is everyone's house looks unified and almost as stock. Bad is your creativity gets limited haha
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post Jan 11 2024, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 10 2024, 11:48 PM)
All in all, as long as the property is under strata title, ANY external work will require permission from the management body. I mean ANY work including slight painting with a change of color.

No permission granted = Prohibited

Got good and bad lor. Good is everyone's house looks unified and almost as stock. Bad is your creativity gets limited haha
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Can we know the house is individual title or strata title from geran?


"The English term for **公共契约** is 'Deed of Mutual Covenant,' abbreviated as DMC. This is an agreement signed by the developer and the first property owner together when signing the Sale and Purchase Agreement.

This agreement covers all rules for residence and use, clearly outlining the rights, responsibilities, and obligations of the property owner. It also specifies various actions that owners can or cannot undertake within the stratified building.

When the initial property owner transfers the property to a new owner, some developers may require the new owner to sign a new DMC to ensure that all owners comply with the residential rules."


All strata title owner must sign this Deed of Mutual Covenant?


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...mibextid=Nif5oz

This many renovation

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 10:31 PM)
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The glass door like this?
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Almost same, but I think it can not be accepted because the surface of glass is uneven, it come with "design" make it look different from the glass door at other house.

This is the back kitchen door given by eco world, I only install blinder to cover the door and window.

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Can we know the house is individual title or strata title from geran?
"The English term for **公共契约** is 'Deed of Mutual Covenant,' abbreviated as DMC. This is an agreement signed by the developer and the first property owner together when signing the Sale and Purchase Agreement.

This agreement covers all rules for residence and use, clearly outlining the rights, responsibilities, and obligations of the property owner. It also specifies various actions that owners can or cannot undertake within the stratified building.

When the initial property owner transfers the property to a new owner, some developers may require the new owner to sign a new DMC to ensure that all owners comply with the residential rules."
All strata title owner must sign this Deed of Mutual Covenant?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...mibextid=Nif5oz

This many renovation
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No time to check my title yet, lol.

But yes, my wife and I must sign the DMC, and when we sell the house next time, we must inform office. The new buyer lawyer will ask for proof to show that we clear all mgmt fee, and from there it got write down condition when we sell the house, new owner must go to management office to apply access and become new billing ACC owner. For my house I not sure new owner have to sign new DMC or not, but guess same like my brother house whereby new owner need to sign undertaking letter attached with original DMC.

Is the Eko Flora built by SP Setia? I guess so, because SP Setia same like Gamuda, they don't follow strata title act like Eco World, their project is "individual title", then ask all buyer to sign DMC as new contracts for all of them to follow voluntary, so they can make it work like strata title project, but still maintain the flexibility to renovate exterior of your house. But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension. They govern by DMC as formal contract, so owner must follow rules also. And all renovation and extension also need to approve by office and follow guidelines and pay deposit determine by office, what I know is colour code confirm must follow. Like my relative house, he can only extend kitchen at the back, but he also can't install front gate because it is also open concept
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post Jan 11 2024, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 11 2024, 07:56 AM)
No time to check my title yet, lol.

But yes, my wife and I must sign the DMC, and when we sell the house next time, we must inform office. The new buyer lawyer will ask for proof to show that we clear all mgmt fee, and from there it got write down condition when we sell the house, new owner must go to management office to apply access and become new billing ACC owner. For my house I not sure new owner have to sign new DMC or not, but guess same like my brother house whereby new owner need to sign undertaking letter attached with original DMC.

Is the Eko Flora built by SP Setia? guess so, because SP Setia same like Gamuda, they don't follow strata title act like Eco World, their project is "individual title", then ask all buyer to sign DMC as new contracts for all of them to follow voluntary, so they can make it work like strata title project, but still maintain the flexibility to renovate exterior of your house. But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension. They govern by DMC as formal contract, so owner must follow rules also. And all renovation and extension also need to approve by office and follow guidelines and pay deposit determine by office, what I know is colour code confirm must follow. Like my relative house, he can only extend kitchen at the back, but he also can't install front gate because it is also open concept
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Eco Flora (Spring & Summer) is by ecoworld not SP Setia.
Eco Cascadia which is
800m away is by SP Setia.


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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 11 2024, 08:35 AM)
Eco Flora (Spring & Summer) is by ecoworld not SP Setia.
Eco Cascadia which is
800m away is by SP Setia.
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I see, then this is beyond my knowledge, lol. Because my one is intermediate double storey.

Maybe extension is allowable for semi d or bungalow unit, need those who own this kind of house for advice.

Maybe different house design got different rules to follow, like the new prescient next to my taman, Eco world give 10 feet empty land at the back for these new house, then only reach the linear garden, so that day i got go kei poh awhile at slaes gallery, and the SA told me you can extend it for gardening with landscape, or dining area, cover with roof structure which can be permanent, as long as it is not fully cover with concrete wall, and of course need to follow their colour code and get approval. Eco world sometimes can be very creative in design.

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 11 2024, 07:56 AM)
No time to check my title yet, lol.

But yes, my wife and I must sign the DMC, and when we sell the house next time, we must inform office. The new buyer lawyer will ask for proof to show that we clear all mgmt fee, and from there it got write down condition when we sell the house, new owner must go to management office to apply access and become new billing ACC owner. For my house I not sure new owner have to sign new DMC or not, but guess same like my brother house whereby new owner need to sign undertaking letter attached with original DMC.

Is the Eko Flora built by SP Setia? I guess so, because SP Setia same like Gamuda, they don't follow strata title act like Eco World, their project is "individual title", then ask all buyer to sign DMC as new contracts for all of them to follow voluntary, so they can make it work like strata title project, but still maintain the flexibility to renovate exterior of your house. But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension. They govern by DMC as formal contract, so owner must follow rules also. And all renovation and extension also need to approve by office and follow guidelines and pay deposit determine by office, what I know is colour code confirm must follow. Like my relative house, he can only extend kitchen at the back, but he also can't install front gate because it is also open concept
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But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension.


So double storey terrace house ,middle unit cannot do entension,only corner lot can do?

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 09:09 AM)
Eko flora is a Eco World Bhd project
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I see, maybe semi d or bungalow unit can do big renovation, you can check with SA also.

I just recall the new prescient next to my house also can do extension at their rear 10 feet empty land.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 09:09 AM)
But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension.
So double storey terrace house ,middle unit cannot do entension,only corner lot can do?
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You mean my relative house in Gamuda? They can still do extension at their rear empty land, but due to DMC was signed during purchase, so they need to follow rules also, like submit details for approval and pay refundable deposit for contractor pass . If you say you wan extend your balcony out to be on top of car porch, make it totally different with your neighbour, then for sure the office won't approve la.

They did check with their management office, they can do extension on the 5 feet land at the back, and need to provide drawing. Car porch can do cover with permanent structure, but got specification need to follow also, but they didn't do it. And yes they can change the backyard door to security door, but i not sure whether got design pattern to follow or not. Because their one don't have design pattern also.
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 11 2024, 08:44 AM)
I see, then this is beyond my knowledge, lol. Because my one is intermediate double storey.

Maybe extension is allowable for semi d or bungalow unit, need those who own this kind of house for advice.

Maybe different house design got different rules to follow, like the new prescient next to my taman, Eco world give 10 feet empty land at the back for these new house, then only reach the linear garden, so that day i got go kei poh awhile at slaes gallery, and the SA told me you can extend it for gardening with landscape, or dining area, cover with roof structure which can be permanent, as long as it is not fully cover with concrete wall, and of course need to follow their colour code and get approval. Eco world sometimes can be very creative in design.
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The photo you see in the fb post is phase 2 Daisy cluster home series corner.
The extension is for a varender with non-accessible roof structure on the side. The layout is restricted to the pre-approved standard design ie structure type, size, finishes etc to follow. Strictly NO wall up enclosure because GFA is affected.

So an uniform varender design is adopted

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 12:19 AM)
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Can we know the house is individual title or strata title from geran?
"The English term for **公共契约** is 'Deed of Mutual Covenant,' abbreviated as DMC. This is an agreement signed by the developer and the first property owner together when signing the Sale and Purchase Agreement.

This agreement covers all rules for residence and use, clearly outlining the rights, responsibilities, and obligations of the property owner. It also specifies various actions that owners can or cannot undertake within the stratified building.

When the initial property owner transfers the property to a new owner, some developers may require the new owner to sign a new DMC to ensure that all owners comply with the residential rules."
All strata title owner must sign this Deed of Mutual Covenant?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...mibextid=Nif5oz

This many renovation
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I don't recall geran has the wording, but SPA definitely will state. The link you shared, I presume the home owner has already gotten approval from the management. If not sure kena kawkaw icon_idea.gif and for DMC yes lo all owner have to sign, imagine without the DMC, if 90% of the people pays maintenance, but the 10% don't, what will the 90% think? In landed strata projects, all their roads, street lights, garbage collection and gardening all is by the management body itself leh so definitely have to have a mutual agreement for all parties to pay up.


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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 11 2024, 09:39 AM)
I don't recall geran has the wording, but SPA definitely will state. The link you shared, I presume the home owner has already gotten approval from the management. If not sure kena kawkaw  icon_idea.gif and for DMC yes lo all owner have to sign, imagine without the DMC, if 90% of the people pays maintenance, but the 10% don't, what will the 90% think? In landed strata projects, all their roads, street lights, garbage collection and gardening all is by the management body itself leh so definitely have to have a mutual agreement for all parties to pay up.
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Stratafied is the binding DMC

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 11 2024, 09:38 AM)
The photo you see in the fb post is phase 2 Daisy cluster home series corner.
The extension is for a varender with non-accessible roof structure on the side. The layout is restricted to the approved standard design ie structure type, size, finishes etc to follow. So an uniform varender design is adopted
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I see, that sound similar to what i been told by the SA, they have "standard design" and "specifications" for buyer to follow when they want to do extension on the rear empty land. The new project name is Cherrywood, their design is quite fancy, my wife passby there that day and say the houses there look very cute, haha



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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 11 2024, 09:39 AM)
I don't recall geran has the wording, but SPA definitely will state. The link you shared, I presume the home owner has already gotten approval from the management. If not sure kena kawkaw  icon_idea.gif and for DMC yes lo all owner have to sign, imagine without the DMC, if 90% of the people pays maintenance, but the 10% don't, what will the 90% think? In landed strata projects, all their roads, street lights, garbage collection and gardening all is by the management body itself leh so definitely have to have a mutual agreement for all parties to pay up.
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I thought all homes,factory,flats,condo garbage collection in whole johor is owned by swm environment sdn bhd?


The green lorry still can go in eco world or s p setia or other gated and guarded housing area right?

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 10:44 AM)
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I thought all homes,factory,flats,condo garbage collection in whole johor is owned by swm environment sdn bhd?
The green lorry still can go in eco world or s p setia or other gated and guarded housing area right?
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Nope, they don't enter strata properties. It is deemed private property and the private property management body will take care of everything inside the private property.

I joined a MBJB town hall in my old Taman last time (which is individual title, later formed G&G with comittees). We were told by the authorities if we were to enforce payment for all the owners in the taman, MBJB will no longer take care of all the maintenance inside the G&G area. Meaning to say if we chose that path, it will be on our own from there onwards. Problem with old taman G&G is some people will enjoy the security while not paying, you can force them to, and its morally wrong, but lawfully right not to pay. LOL

So its a give and take.
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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 11 2024, 10:49 AM)
Nope, they don't enter strata properties. It is deemed private property and the private property management body will take care of everything inside the private property.

I joined a MBJB town hall in my old Taman last time (which is individual title, later formed G&G with comittees). We were told by the authorities if we were to enforce payment for all the owners in the taman, MBJB will no longer take care of all the maintenance inside the G&G area. Meaning to say if we chose that path, it will be on our own from there onwards. Problem with old taman G&G is some people will enjoy the security while not paying, you can force them to, and its morally wrong, but lawfully right not to pay. LOL

So its a give and take.
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May I know how is the gated and guarded resident rubbish collection process?


Developer will have 1 lorry come to each house and collect and put it in a big rubbish room beside guard house?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 10:44 AM)
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I thought all homes,factory,flats,condo garbage collection in whole johor is owned by swm environment sdn bhd?
The green lorry still can go in eco world or s p setia or other gated and guarded housing area right?
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Not sure how is it work in JB, but in my area, rubbish disposal are still incharged by contractor engaged by Majlis Bandaraya Kajang.

Then management office got engaged another contractor to come on every Sunday morning to collect "recycle items" like your Tao bao boxes or boxes for electrical appliances. For those big waste item, like renovation waste, you need to rent Lolo bin and let the licensed contractor to throw them properly.
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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 11 2024, 10:49 AM)
Nope, they don't enter strata properties. It is deemed private property and the private property management body will take care of everything inside the private property.

I joined a MBJB town hall in my old Taman last time (which is individual title, later formed G&G with comittees). We were told by the authorities if we were to enforce payment for all the owners in the taman, MBJB will no longer take care of all the maintenance inside the G&G area. Meaning to say if we chose that path, it will be on our own from there onwards. Problem with old taman G&G is some people will enjoy the security while not paying, you can force them to, and its morally wrong, but lawfully right not to pay. LOL

So its a give and take.
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Think your Taman same like my old house, which is under Residence Association, registered under society act, then RA ask all residents to sign on a simple letter for consent to set up perimeter fencing. In short, RA only incharge for security matter, the rest is still rely on Majlis Bandaraya. So under this kind of set up then yes, you need to bear with thick face free rider who don wan to pay. The most RA can do is to ask them use visitor lane as they don have access card, the guard must open the barrier for them to come in. So it is not fully G&G like strata property, unless ALL residents agreed to sign DMC as a formal Contract for everyone to follow same rule, including paying management fee compulsory, then after approve by Majlis Bandaraya, residents can form Joint Management Board.



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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 11 2024, 11:30 AM)
Think your Taman same like my old house, which is under Residence Association, registered under society act, then RA ask all residents to sign on a simple letter for consent to set up perimeter fencing.  In short, RA only incharge for security matter, the rest is still rely on Majlis Bandaraya. So under this kind of set up then yes, you need to bear with thick face free rider who don wan to pay. The most RA can do is to ask them use visitor lane as they don have access card, the guard must open the barrier for them to come in. So it is not fully G&G like strata property, unless ALL residents agreed to sign DMC as a formal Contract for everyone to follow same rule, including paying management fee compulsory, then after approve by Majlis Bandaraya, residents can form Joint Management Board.
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Yup it is. For the latter one you mentioned, if its formed, Majilis Perbandaran will no longer take care of all the matter inside the taman already, including the maintenance of playground/public facilities, road paving, gardening, garbage collection. Thats why this kind of situation puts the old taman in a very awkward position where you can form but people will need to fork out more maintenance fees, which the free riders already won't want to even if its already cheaper at the current rate, and those who are paying might have a lesser will to pay because there is definitely a price hike for the maintenance fees, most probably a >50% due to all kinds of maintenance lump inside.

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