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Jingle91
post Jan 10 2024, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 12:46 AM)
May I know what is the difference between terrace and superlink house?
Landed social housing means?
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Don't be confused by their marketing gimmick.

Just to share a story, years ago friend of my relative bought the Simforni apartment at Eco Majestic with about 180k -200k (another same product is called Harmoni), he thought it will be same prestige look like those landed house that he visited at the sales gallery, claimed he was told the same when he bought. After VP, he start complaint for all the things and let go at losses after 1 year, never move in, as it is indeed low cost apartments for affordable housing scheme required by law, what he was promised was he can see all the nice landscapes on all roads in eco Majestic, but not the linear garden and central garden provide in landed hohse area. His apartment got simple playground and swimming pool saja la, plus some simple landscape. Under the law, it is obligation of each developer to provide affordable houses in their project. These apartments are with slightly better infra compare to others (maybe guard house look nicer abit), but it doesn't change the fact that it is low cost apartments to meet law requirement. His expectations was that his apartment should be compatible with the 800k landed that he visited at show gallery there. So my advice to buyer who wan to buy eco world product is always get your understanding correctly, know exactly on what you are paying. Take eco majestic as example, for them to get approval to build the township, government required them to provide at least 3000 units of affordable houses below RM200k, but up from 700-1000 sqf, which are now the Harmoni and Simforni apartments that you can see, then only they can sell those 2500 units of landed houses from minimum 600k-RM2mil or above, plus shoplot and now the new Condo under Duduk series.

I saw you have been asking from semi d to terrace, and now Duduk series. Duduk is like condo, one level up from those low cost apartment. It is set below 400k for 1000 sqf-1200 sqf, so Eco World also name it as affordable houses. But don't expect for low density, confirm over 1000 units with multiple blocks on same plot of land.
The GOOD THING of Duduk is it is really convenient to the max, like Riang D Eco Majestic, it is built on the land next to Jaya grocer, surrounded by EcoMajestic commercial area. All walking distance.

Semi d and terrace no doubt will be expensive, they now also come out with townhouse name as Co-Home, mean upper floor and ground floor are two different units, each unit got their parking in front of the house. Here in eco forest Semenyih they sell at abt 480-580k last year, about 1300 sqf.

So please visit to their sales gallery for correct information. To avoid mismatch of your expectation

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post Jan 10 2024, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 10:31 AM)
Co-Home, mean upper floor and ground floor are two different units, each unit got their parking in front the house. Here in eco forest they sell at abt 480-580k last year, about 1300 sqf.
Wah,the geran how ah?

Split to 2?
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Of course different geran, it doesn't look much different from other double storey terrace and semi d houses in the same prescient, just that they split the upper floor and ground floor into two units, upper floor unit usually slightl cheaper as you need to climb staircase to go up to your unit. Ground floor got his own entrance door, both doors are separated like usual townhouse. You still can have same perimeter fencing with nice landscape surrounding the whole housing area, and can walk to the central garden. All unit shared the management fee based on built up.

This co home also fully sold out at here, heard alot parents bought it, upper floor for their son to stay with wife, parent stay ground floor unit. So both can have their own private space kept.

And if you like to extend your house with major renovation, then no need to check eco world product, their landed all are under strata title, so max is for you to install grill (follow guidelines) or retractable owning, it the house design is open concept without front gate, then you CAN NOT install front auto gate also. Really saw some owner did complaint this in group chat, but nobody reply to him, hahaha

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post Jan 10 2024, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 01:19 PM)
it the house design is open concept without front gate, then you CAN NOT install front auto gate also.
Forever cannot install front gate?
Taman Sutera Utama near sutera mall until now also 1 zone no front gate
No wonder.....
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Yes you can't. Because for any renovation, you need to declare on what you plan to do to the office, then they will review and approve, then only you can pay deposit, and register your contractor for them to issue contractor pass. It take time, any wrong doing found will cause your deposit being deducted. My deposit for renovation last time was RM5k. If your contractor did anything which was never approved by office, like install the auto gate, your deposit will be deducted, and you need to hire contractor to remove the gate and restore the pillar and redo paint work.
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post Jan 10 2024, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 02:31 PM)
If I paint the orginal colour(for example light yellow) to white colour ,need to approved by them also?
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If the area is inside your house then is up to your decision, if the area is for exterior facade, then definitely you can't change the colour, they won't approve anything that will change the facade of the house to ensure uniformity. In JB I not sure, but for my house here Max is for you to install retractable awning at car porch, shoes cabinet (at allocated area), and door grill only, all got guidelines for you to follow. like door grill, we can only choose in white or black colour, and only two patterns for you to choose, those fancy fancy grill design are excluded.


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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 02:57 PM)
Thanks for sharing such detailed information. Is it only the two designs approved by the developer, like this?

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I refer to my house guidelines, stainless steel is okay, but the design need to follow. In your first picture, the door can not be used because got round shape design plus straight-line, so it has to be either in straight line or in square. Must look simple.

The second one is okay, but the top bar is too long, can not over the total width of the two door panels

The third one langsung can not. Because bottom got cover. And to be honest all the grill in your pictures look very ugly, hahaha

And also, the grill only can be installed at Outside of your house for front door and glass panel door at groundfloor. Kitchen door at the back langsung can't do anything because outside will be linear garden, Eco world only give you transparent glass door with aluminium frame. So you can only either put blinder inside your house to cover the glass or make it frost or do tinting, CAN NOT put grill inside for kitchen door. For windows, and balcony glass panel door, can put grill but must be installed inside, cannot be at outside of your house.

So I only install security mesh door to cover my front door and three glass panel doors at ground floor.

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post Jan 10 2024, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 10 2024, 06:06 PM)
One more, canopy at the rear is allowed but must stop short before your rear wall. You need to extend the scupper drain to the wall as well if you do canopy. Make sure no rain water gushing/ over-run into the common linear garden space as a result of your canopy
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So nice, my side here very strict, nothing can be installed on rear exterior wall. Even trunking for wire also need to conceal.


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post Jan 10 2024, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 06:39 PM)
The last one design is good.
As cat cannot come in to your house.
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Basically the glass door with aluminium frame already block all insects and animal, just that they can still come in if you keep the door open for ventilation, and your neighbour at the back can see the interior of your house. So I never see any neighbour open the door, including myself. At most when relative or friend come and want to go out to see the back linear garden.
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post Jan 11 2024, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 10:31 PM)
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The glass door like this?
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Almost same, but I think it can not be accepted because the surface of glass is uneven, it come with "design" make it look different from the glass door at other house.

This is the back kitchen door given by eco world, I only install blinder to cover the door and window.

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post Jan 11 2024, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 12:19 AM)
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Can we know the house is individual title or strata title from geran?
"The English term for **公共契约** is 'Deed of Mutual Covenant,' abbreviated as DMC. This is an agreement signed by the developer and the first property owner together when signing the Sale and Purchase Agreement.

This agreement covers all rules for residence and use, clearly outlining the rights, responsibilities, and obligations of the property owner. It also specifies various actions that owners can or cannot undertake within the stratified building.

When the initial property owner transfers the property to a new owner, some developers may require the new owner to sign a new DMC to ensure that all owners comply with the residential rules."
All strata title owner must sign this Deed of Mutual Covenant?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...mibextid=Nif5oz

This many renovation
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No time to check my title yet, lol.

But yes, my wife and I must sign the DMC, and when we sell the house next time, we must inform office. The new buyer lawyer will ask for proof to show that we clear all mgmt fee, and from there it got write down condition when we sell the house, new owner must go to management office to apply access and become new billing ACC owner. For my house I not sure new owner have to sign new DMC or not, but guess same like my brother house whereby new owner need to sign undertaking letter attached with original DMC.

Is the Eko Flora built by SP Setia? I guess so, because SP Setia same like Gamuda, they don't follow strata title act like Eco World, their project is "individual title", then ask all buyer to sign DMC as new contracts for all of them to follow voluntary, so they can make it work like strata title project, but still maintain the flexibility to renovate exterior of your house. But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension. They govern by DMC as formal contract, so owner must follow rules also. And all renovation and extension also need to approve by office and follow guidelines and pay deposit determine by office, what I know is colour code confirm must follow. Like my relative house, he can only extend kitchen at the back, but he also can't install front gate because it is also open concept
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post Jan 11 2024, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 11 2024, 08:35 AM)
Eco Flora (Spring & Summer) is by ecoworld not SP Setia.
Eco Cascadia which is
800m away is by SP Setia.
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I see, then this is beyond my knowledge, lol. Because my one is intermediate double storey.

Maybe extension is allowable for semi d or bungalow unit, need those who own this kind of house for advice.

Maybe different house design got different rules to follow, like the new prescient next to my taman, Eco world give 10 feet empty land at the back for these new house, then only reach the linear garden, so that day i got go kei poh awhile at slaes gallery, and the SA told me you can extend it for gardening with landscape, or dining area, cover with roof structure which can be permanent, as long as it is not fully cover with concrete wall, and of course need to follow their colour code and get approval. Eco world sometimes can be very creative in design.

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post Jan 11 2024, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 09:09 AM)
Eko flora is a Eco World Bhd project
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I see, maybe semi d or bungalow unit can do big renovation, you can check with SA also.

I just recall the new prescient next to my house also can do extension at their rear 10 feet empty land.
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post Jan 11 2024, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 09:09 AM)
But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension.
So double storey terrace house ,middle unit cannot do entension,only corner lot can do?
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You mean my relative house in Gamuda? They can still do extension at their rear empty land, but due to DMC was signed during purchase, so they need to follow rules also, like submit details for approval and pay refundable deposit for contractor pass . If you say you wan extend your balcony out to be on top of car porch, make it totally different with your neighbour, then for sure the office won't approve la.

They did check with their management office, they can do extension on the 5 feet land at the back, and need to provide drawing. Car porch can do cover with permanent structure, but got specification need to follow also, but they didn't do it. And yes they can change the backyard door to security door, but i not sure whether got design pattern to follow or not. Because their one don't have design pattern also.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 11 2024, 09:38 AM)
The photo you see in the fb post is phase 2 Daisy cluster home series corner.
The extension is for a varender with non-accessible roof structure on the side. The layout is restricted to the approved standard design ie structure type, size, finishes etc to follow. So an uniform varender design is adopted
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I see, that sound similar to what i been told by the SA, they have "standard design" and "specifications" for buyer to follow when they want to do extension on the rear empty land. The new project name is Cherrywood, their design is quite fancy, my wife passby there that day and say the houses there look very cute, haha



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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 10:44 AM)
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I thought all homes,factory,flats,condo garbage collection in whole johor is owned by swm environment sdn bhd?
The green lorry still can go in eco world or s p setia or other gated and guarded housing area right?
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Not sure how is it work in JB, but in my area, rubbish disposal are still incharged by contractor engaged by Majlis Bandaraya Kajang.

Then management office got engaged another contractor to come on every Sunday morning to collect "recycle items" like your Tao bao boxes or boxes for electrical appliances. For those big waste item, like renovation waste, you need to rent Lolo bin and let the licensed contractor to throw them properly.
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post Jan 11 2024, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 11 2024, 10:49 AM)
Nope, they don't enter strata properties. It is deemed private property and the private property management body will take care of everything inside the private property.

I joined a MBJB town hall in my old Taman last time (which is individual title, later formed G&G with comittees). We were told by the authorities if we were to enforce payment for all the owners in the taman, MBJB will no longer take care of all the maintenance inside the G&G area. Meaning to say if we chose that path, it will be on our own from there onwards. Problem with old taman G&G is some people will enjoy the security while not paying, you can force them to, and its morally wrong, but lawfully right not to pay. LOL

So its a give and take.
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Think your Taman same like my old house, which is under Residence Association, registered under society act, then RA ask all residents to sign on a simple letter for consent to set up perimeter fencing. In short, RA only incharge for security matter, the rest is still rely on Majlis Bandaraya. So under this kind of set up then yes, you need to bear with thick face free rider who don wan to pay. The most RA can do is to ask them use visitor lane as they don have access card, the guard must open the barrier for them to come in. So it is not fully G&G like strata property, unless ALL residents agreed to sign DMC as a formal Contract for everyone to follow same rule, including paying management fee compulsory, then after approve by Majlis Bandaraya, residents can form Joint Management Board.



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post Jan 12 2024, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 01:05 PM)
I think this is not good.

As the resident also pay cukai harta to majlis bandaraya/perbandaran/daerah
No cheaper cukai harta after majlis majlis bandaraya/perbandaran/daerah  no more take care all matter inside?
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Not sure abt how it is managed in JB, but in majestic we still need to pay cukai tanah and cukai tafsiran.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 12 2024, 08:43 AM)
Cukai harta no?
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I think cukai tafsiran is same with the cukai harta, maybe in JB it is called cukai harta, based on the value given by Bandaraya to calculate the amount to be paid to them.

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post Jan 12 2024, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 12 2024, 09:03 AM)
Satu Malaysia all state same same, we need to pay 1)cukai tanah to pej tanah 2)cukai pintu to town council (as in cukai tafsiran you mentioned) regardless of individual or strata title

Lately, TC undertaking prop valuation
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Yup, no way to escape. Plus monthly maintenance and sinking fund.

And my maintenance fee is almost 4 times increased compare to my old house security fee, and cukai tafsiran also become double due to higher value, heard might be raised again in next year. Don't know what basis Bandaraya used to give that value, if it can be used as value for selling to new buyer then I can earn alot, lol

So strata confirmed cost more than individual title no doubt.

May I know what is TC?

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post Jan 15 2024, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(Gabriel03 @ Jan 12 2024, 09:13 PM)
What was your initial and current maintenance fee? Curious on the increment
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Security fee for old house was only RM60 per mth.

Now is abt RM195 per mth including sinking fund.

Cukai tafsiran is abt 400++ compare to 180 paid for old house

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 12:19 AM)
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Can we know the house is individual title or strata title from geran?
"The English term for **公共契约** is 'Deed of Mutual Covenant,' abbreviated as DMC. This is an agreement signed by the developer and the first property owner together when signing the Sale and Purchase Agreement.

This agreement covers all rules for residence and use, clearly outlining the rights, responsibilities, and obligations of the property owner. It also specifies various actions that owners can or cannot undertake within the stratified building.

When the initial property owner transfers the property to a new owner, some developers may require the new owner to sign a new DMC to ensure that all owners comply with the residential rules."
All strata title owner must sign this Deed of Mutual Covenant?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...mibextid=Nif5oz

This many renovation
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My title got show hakmilik strata

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