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post Jan 27 2024, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 27 2024, 10:42 PM)
did anyone or rafizi specifically say that it has to be updated? to be more specific, did anyone state that the PADU database has to be acknowledged by the individual? (cos that is basically what happens if the data is prefilled accurately and the individual do not need to modify anything)

cos I remember something like he said if not updated, the data will be prefilled and they will base it on that data. Hence why earlier got some discussion about those who already qualify for subsidies should just wait and see...
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technically, the more u fill, the lesser ur disposable income. will everyone declare their dividends etc? of course not. lol
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post Jan 27 2024, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 27 2024, 10:45 PM)
tldr: malaysia is good in changing definition of words... or use the word to mean what they like. haha.
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inevitably we will see a lot of u-turns here and there, but it's part of the process i believe. it has to start somewhere.
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post Jan 27 2024, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 27 2024, 10:42 PM)
did anyone or rafizi specifically say that it has to be updated? to be more specific, did anyone state that the PADU database has to be acknowledged by the individual? (cos that is basically what happens if the data is prefilled accurately and the individual do not need to modify anything)

cos I remember something like he said if not updated, the data will be prefilled and they will base it on that data. Hence why earlier got some discussion about those who already qualify for subsidies should just wait and see...
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Yes. Read the link I posted a few replies ago. That is the reason why there is a deadline to complete the update to be used for the new targeted subsidies.
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post Jan 27 2024, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 27 2024, 10:29 PM)
3K is individual income... sorry, I always think in terms of individual first, then household.
(household median income is like 6K rm )

Plus PADU should be based on individual declaration rite? many of us file taxes individually... smile.gif
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I file taxes with almost zelo income. But if included dividen from share, epf, fds, properties and the cash movement of my bank account..... cialat liao. Want make false declaration out of sheer greed but no break law entire life except speed trap.....

QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jan 27 2024, 10:39 PM)
But it needs to be updated. When you first register, it is prefilled. Then you update and confirm before end of March to qualify for whatever new targeted subs that is coming out. We are not here to discuss whether they are going to U-turn as that would be a different subject matter altogether.
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Prefilled from multiple database from multi agencies? Only data PADU has on me is marital status.....
Anyone got accurate filled financial data in their PADU account ?


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post Jan 27 2024, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jan 27 2024, 10:49 PM)
Yes. Read the link I posted a few replies ago. That is the reason why there is a deadline to complete the update to be used for the new targeted subsidies.
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Sorry, would you mind pointing or just posting the excerpt of where it is mentioned? Cos I didn't read anything that states so explicitly. A lot of the statements by rafizi is beating around the bush type.
the earlier article: https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/12/...-database-nsttv


In fact, it turns out it was yourself who stated they will just use the prefilled data from other ministry at start of the month. Maybe you did read something that made you change your mind.

QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jan 5 2024, 09:16 PM)
You don't have to. It is not compulsory. The ministry will still use the data you have from other agencies like LHDN. PADU is used as the updated data and if you don't update Padu, they'd continue to use data from the other ministry.
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post Jan 27 2024, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Jan 27 2024, 10:54 PM)
I file taxes with almost zelo income. But if included dividen from share, epf, fds, properties and the cash movement of my bank account..... cialat liao. Want make false declaration out of sheer greed but no break law entire life except speed trap.....
Prefilled from multiple database from multi agencies?  Only data PADU has on me is marital status.....
Anyone got accurate filled financial data in their PADU account ?
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no lar... you filled properly your taxes... cos there is no requirement to fill info about share dividend or epf or fds...

properties rental... hmmmm... that could be your downfall... tongue.gif
keep that in mind... or quick quick sell away or transfer away your rental properties... smile.gif
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post Jan 27 2024, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 27 2024, 10:40 PM)
what does 30 million ppl registered really mean?

https://soyacincau.com/2024/01/24/padu-over...ed-information/
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More like "we gotten the required data"... Just come & confirmed it... Wrong data, then update it ASAP 👌
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 27 2024, 11:04 PM)
More like "we gotten the required data"...  Just come & confirmed it... Wrong data, then update it ASAP 👌
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i only fill up the expenses biggrin.gif
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post Jan 28 2024, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 27 2024, 11:04 PM)
More like "we gotten the required data"...  Just come & confirmed it... Wrong data, then update it ASAP 👌
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Just registered. They barely have anything prefilled for my profile. They really have my information?
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Jan 28 2024, 08:25 AM)
Just registered. They barely have anything prefilled for my profile. They really have my information?
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Then why did they says got information already...
30mil people....

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Anyway since you already registered
Just fill up whichever you feel okay with 🙏

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post Jan 28 2024, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 28 2024, 08:55 AM)
Then why did they says got information already...
30mil people....

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Anyway since you already registered
Just fill up whichever you feel okay with 🙏
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got ur IC je kot
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Hmm...

Meaning just JPN data is collected yet that Stats Department guys said already intergrade various agencies??? For 30mil people....

What he trying to prove??
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post Jan 28 2024, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 27 2024, 11:01 PM)
no lar... you filled properly your taxes... cos there is no requirement to fill info about share dividend or epf or fds...

properties rental... hmmmm... that could be your downfall...  tongue.gif
keep that in mind... or quick quick sell away or transfer away your rental properties... smile.gif
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Same in PADU don't declare lah. Didn't declare in LHDN, then go declare in PADU. That's asking for trouble.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 28 2024, 10:04 AM)
Hmm...

Meaning just JPN data is collected yet that Stats Department guys said already intergrade various agencies??? For 30mil people....

What he trying to prove??
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post Jan 28 2024, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 28 2024, 10:51 AM)
Same in PADU don't declare lah. Didn't declare in LHDN, then go declare in PADU. That's asking for trouble.
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strangely ppl dun declare to avoid tax, but want to declare to reduce chance of subsidy?
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post Jan 28 2024, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 28 2024, 10:04 AM)
Hmm...

Meaning just JPN data is collected yet that Stats Department guys said already intergrade various agencies??? For 30mil people....

What he trying to prove??
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Integrate as in ready to import XML file. but nobody want to export it to them. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jan 28 2024, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 27 2024, 09:44 PM)
Without declared the bank account also would know...

IC numbers very powerful in Malaysia... Just few clicks & the right Access power given... Everything is exposed.... Unofficially.... Especially the power LHDN, MACC & Police...

PADU is just the nice way of asking to you... To "update"....
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Yes you are correct, with IC alone can be use to check each individual have how many bank accounts in MY.
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QUOTE(D10yrspain @ Jan 28 2024, 11:10 AM)
Yes you are correct, with IC alone can be use to check each individual have how many bank accounts in MY.
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not only that, how many credit cards, how many loans, etc.

if the gov really wants to do it, sure.
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 27 2024, 09:48 PM)
i only update 1 of my savings account out of the 26 accounts that i have. i do not believe they have the authority to browse through ur account by just giving ur account number. probably just to bank in rebates etc if any in the future. if they really wanna know, they have other ways to do it as per TDZ macc case.

just like e-filing where u have to update ur account number also.
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Maybe if i update, i use my Ambank account. My balance always zero there...AFAIK, the only bank which allows zero amount...most others need at least RM20-RM100 balance. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jan 27 2024, 10:24 PM)
The article below is based what Rafizi said.

The minister added that no action will be taken against those who do not update their information in the database system.

However, Rafizi said those involved are at risk of being excluded from receiving targeted subsidies that will use updated data in PADU later.

The risk of exclusion could occur because the government only uses existing information and information updated in PADU to determine the household profile and eligibility for those who qualify for targeted subsidies or otherwise.

"According to its mandate, PADU is tasked with providing the most accurate household profiles for the targeted reassignment of subsidies.

"If you do not update your data, there is no problem, but if you do not receive (subsidies), don't be angry," he said at a press conference here today.
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/12/...-database-nsttv
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Risk of exclusion only. Not saying if you don't register PADU you don't get. Besides, pretty sure is intention of veiled threat (real or otherwise) from Rafizi. Bottom line, it's not transparent. Now, like that say, they can say anything.

Like @##*! (sorry, your nick is freaking vulgar to remember correctly! LOL), let's just skip and wait and see. Pretty sure the registration will continue as this thing need a live up to date current database else it's purpose is defeated.
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 28 2024, 11:16 AM)
not only that, how many credit cards, how many loans, etc.

if the gov really wants to do it, sure.
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Probably gov lost track of those that exile from working society many years back macam old folks or Suri rumah. Update are more meant for them maybe, Ada ke yang cerai2 ke sangkut2 marital status, manatau. Yang anak2 semua takmau cari kerja duduk rumah ke.
The Air alone kenot complete it, it has to be Kir to fill up the whole family members only then the Air registration appeared updated

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