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post Jan 2 2024, 06:23 PM, updated 2y ago

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I think we should have a dedicated thread for this. Tons of info needed to fill up.

All PADU related discussion please come here.

An article from the Star on what is PADU:


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KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 2 — The long-awaited Central Database System (Padu) will go live later today after its official launch by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.

This will also mean that Malaysians who are eligible for targeted subsidies are one step closer to receiving the much-needed aid, as the government will use Padu to implement the targeted subsidies.


However, Padu is much more than just a tool to disseminate targeted subsidies, as it will be the government’s central database system of 32 million Malaysians.

Padu, managed by the Department of Statistics Malaysia (DoSM), covers nearly 300 types of data under the federal government, with data from state and local governments gradually included.


Except for banking data, as Economy Minister Rafizi Ramli said the Banking and Financial Institutions Act 1989 (BAFIA), does not permit the use of such data by anyone.


Is data stored with Padu safe? This was among other concerns raised, and to this, Rafizi was previously reported saying that there will be no changes in the ownership of data (currently owned by either government departments or agencies). As for retrieving of data, agencies that contribute may not necessarily be able to take these data for their usage.

The Economy Minister has also assured the public that existing laws of the respective government departments or agencies govern all data that Padu uses.

Minister of Economy Rafizi Ramli has assured the public that existing laws of the respective government departments or agencies govern all data that Padu uses. — Picture by Miera Zulyana
Minister of Economy Rafizi Ramli has assured the public that existing laws of the respective government departments or agencies govern all data that Padu uses. — Picture by Miera Zulyana
What’s inside Padu?

Those curious about what Padu contains include profiles of individuals and households which encompasses citizens and permanent residents in Malaysia.

It also seeks to provide a secure, comprehensive and “near real-time” main national database for digitisation and the production of periodic analytics.

Essentially, it is a data-driven policy formulation and decision-making process.

What Padu does is also improve the government’s efficiency in the aspect of delivery system service.

It will also empower the social system through increasing economic and people's well-being, bridging the socioeconomic gap by balancing the needs of the people.

Those who are 18 years old and above are required to verify that their information is up to date with Padu. — AFP pic
Those who are 18 years old and above are required to verify that their information is up to date with Padu. — AFP pic
How can the public contribute?

Those who are 18 years old and above are required to verify that their information is up to date with Padu.

They will have until March 31 to update their profile information with the government.

Because the system was built by civil servants, it did not incur additional setup costs except for hardware which amounted to RM2 million.

Rafizi reportedly said that Padu was fully developed by civil servants from three agencies (Ministry of Economy, Department of Statistics Malaysia — DOSM and the Malaysian Administrative Modernisation and Management Planning Unit — Mampu) in collaboration with all other agencies.

He said civil servants developed the system using existing allocations and infrastructure without the need to open new tenders to private entities, thus not incurring additional expenses, as is often the case whenever a new system is introduced to the government.

And why the system was developed within seven months (May to December this year), it was all thanks to civil servants who worked day and night for seven months without additional allocations.

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More info on what is PADU:

https://soyacincau.com/2024/01/02/padu-what-you-to-know/
https://padu.gov.my/

This post has been edited by CommodoreAmiga: Jan 5 2024, 07:37 AM
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post Jan 2 2024, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 2 2024, 06:23 PM)
I think we should have a dedicated thread for this. Tons of info needed to fill up.

All PADU related discussion please come here.
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If not qualified why should one fill up?
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post Jan 2 2024, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 2 2024, 06:24 PM)
If not qualified why should one fill up?
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Good question. Probably don't need to.
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 2 2024, 06:24 PM)
tq. I didn't want to start the process first because currently I am eligible for STR.

didn't want to self-declare extra info that currently the gov of malaysia legally have no access to. Especially when there is no reason to do so.

Wondering, in the dividend income segment, does it breakdown the type? because EPF dividend technically is not the same dividend as UT and shares div, as one may not be able to withdraw.
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So far, only saw one section what dividend from simpanan. So i assume this is Fixed Deposit. Didn't see EPF yet.

Update:
Pendapatan Sewaan Bangunan/Kenderaan
Pendapatan Sewaan Tanah
Pendapatan Faedah/Hibah Daripada Simpanan
Pendapatan Dividen
Pendapatan Royalti


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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 2 2024, 06:24 PM)
If not qualified why should one fill up?
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Especially those T10 no purpose for them 🤦‍♀️ unless they want to lower down and claim subsidies particularly govt healthcare related hence why they need to filled in for PADU
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What is the advantage of signing for it if one doesn't qualify for any subsidies?
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post Jan 2 2024, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 2 2024, 06:28 PM)
So far, only saw one section what dividend from simpanan. So i assume this is Fixed Deposit. Didn't see EPF yet.

Update:
Pendapatan Sewaan Bangunan/Kenderaan
Pendapatan Sewaan Tanah
Pendapatan Faedah/Hibah Daripada Simpanan
Pendapatan Dividen
Pendapatan Royalti
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problem is I think many of us don't really keep track of our shares dividend, ever since we are no longer taxed on them...

I can also imagine some will lie about sewa bangunan... those who didn't even declare to ldhn

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 2 2024, 06:30 PM)
What is the advantage of signing for it if one doesn't qualify for any subsidies?
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might still get petrol subsidies
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post Jan 2 2024, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 2 2024, 06:30 PM)
What is the advantage of signing for it if one doesn't qualify for any subsidies?
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currently really no reason, especially for anyone who knows they by right won't qualify for subsidies. Especially kucing kurap type, like 100rm STR.

but who knows in future got other subsidies etc? i can imagine one day will come the gov says M40 and above no longer enjoy free gov hospital treatment etc
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 2 2024, 06:32 PM)
problem is I think many of us don't really keep track of our shares dividend, ever since we are no longer taxed on them...
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The question is, if we don't declare this or cincai declare this, what will happened? Will there be repercussion?

QUOTE(uMortis @ Jan 2 2024, 06:32 PM)
might still get petrol subsidies
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Yes, this is the only thing i am interested in. But i read somewhere 18 years old and above also can register. So if kid above 18 can register, he can get petrol subsidies as separate account? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 2 2024, 06:35 PM)
The question is, if we don't declare this or cincai declare this, what will happened? Will there be repercussion?
Yes, this is the only thing i am interested in. But i read somewhere 18 years old and above also can register. So if kid above 18 can register, he can get petrol subsidies as separate account? hmm.gif
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probably yes, his KIR(ketua isi rumah) still need to register him and other family members, but 18 and above can register under their own account to receive subsidies
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There is also a question for "Maklumat Bank"....i think we should give them the Bank account with little money and activities....ahem
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 2 2024, 06:35 PM)
The question is, if we don't declare this or cincai declare this, what will happened? Will there be repercussion?
Yes, this is the only thing i am interested in. But i read somewhere 18 years old and above also can register. So if kid above 18 can register, he can get petrol subsidies as separate account? hmm.gif
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In some jurisdictions (america loves to do this), law enforcement like irs loves to use this to catch people.... no declaration, no worry. but declare false info, perjury.

I do wonder about Malaysia, because I see politicians always do stat declarations and nothing happens to them when it is obviously not 100% truthful.
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 2 2024, 06:40 PM)
There is also a question for "Maklumat Bank"....i think we should give them the Bank account with little money and activities....ahem
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This bank info should be fine... because BNM still protects our privacy somewhat.

but what if say one has 450K rm in FD, but accidentally declared it only 400K rm and interest rate also round down to 2.5% pa?
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 2 2024, 06:41 PM)
In some jurisdictions (america loves to do this), law enforcement like irs loves to use this to catch people.... no declaration, no worry. but declare false info, perjury.

I do wonder about Malaysia, because I see politicians always do stat declarations and nothing happens to them when it is obviously not 100% truthful.
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Helang and pippit....Pippit 1 sen declare wrong, 10 years in jail. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 2 2024, 06:43 PM)
This bank info should be fine... because BNM still protects our privacy somewhat.

but what if say one has 450K rm in FD, but accidentally declared it only 400K rm and interest rate also round down to 2.5% pa?
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Hahaha. Use Bank account with least money and no FDs inside. I think my OCBC got. No FD inside. Only like RM200. But later...say if you declare 10k FD....Ask where is your FD??? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 2 2024, 06:30 PM)
What is the advantage of signing for it if one doesn't qualify for any subsidies?
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So govt got more info. So they can ask lhdn to audit you if what you declare doesn't match the lhdn database.
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If working adult living at parent house, parent still working. How much is the household income like that?
But the house address is the same in the system
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QUOTE(bogletails @ Jan 2 2024, 07:03 PM)
If working adult living at parent house, parent still working. How much is the household income like that?
But the house address is the same in the system
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Then they can say you all are one household, so household income exceed and thus not entitled to subsidies compared to looking at individual income.
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 2 2024, 06:40 PM)
There is also a question for "Maklumat Bank"....i think we should give them the Bank account with little money and activities....ahem
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Any idea how to scroll down for more banks?
I only managed to see these banks in the list


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