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2024 the year the PC finally dumps x86 for ARM, Thanks to Windows 12
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Quantum Geist
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 Dec 26 2023, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 26 2023, 12:06 PM) I used arm firefox and Microsoft edge (no linux arm build yet). ok la, just like normal x86. why bad? Mostly features and performance build flags that can't be enabled because different architecture and/or support like widevine There's also still (publicly) open crashing related bugs that is not yet resolved like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1802538btw what are you using for arm firefox? an sbc like rpi? or an arm laptop like the ones from lenovo? |
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loserguy
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Dec 26 2023, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Dec 26 2023, 12:30 PM) Mostly features and performance build flags that can't be enabled because different architecture and/or support like widevine There's also still (publicly) open crashing related bugs that is not yet resolved like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1802538btw what are you using for arm firefox? an sbc like rpi? or an arm laptop like the ones from lenovo? i have a small ARM laptop to play around with, it is still on windows  i am mostly command line for linux on ARM, just SSH in to play around. |
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TSRT8081
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Dec 26 2023, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 12:14 PM) lolwut? x86 has been smooth when it come to web browsing since i dont know when. video playback/transcoding are mostly depended on GPU now unless you want those extra quality compression with slow encoder preset. the only main generalized use cases left for the need of faster CPU other than those niche use cases were high FPS gameplay, which is something ARM yet to deliver, most likely due to low clock speed and low size or high latency caches. It should be smooth on x86 or else no point using one lol What I meant is MAC Os is smooth when comes to usage. I think now win 11 is the closest |
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g5sim
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Dec 26 2023, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Dec 26 2023, 11:08 AM) Lol okay. |
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zerorating
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Dec 26 2023, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Dec 26 2023, 01:22 PM) It should be smooth on x86 or else no point using one lol What I meant is MAC Os is smooth when comes to usage. I think now win 11 is the closest enthusiastic will tutup animation. why the obsession with one? if the program is ready to use, why we want to wait for the animation to complete running? |
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Satori 14118a
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Dec 26 2023, 01:32 PM
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Waiting for epic launcher to port over to arm then
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john123x
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Dec 26 2023, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Dec 26 2023, 11:48 AM) U never heard of SaaS ke ? People nowadays all on AWS and Azure lol. If u meant those 3 tier Architecture, then yes la. I thought we already move on lol but we are in Malaysia, where unifi frequently not working. few times a year, and each time takes few days to a week. and true, this happens to unifi business. TM may bark about their 99.99% SLA, but their layman staff and contractor doesnt give a damm about that. |
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zerorating
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Dec 26 2023, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(john123x @ Dec 26 2023, 01:39 PM) but we are in Malaysia, where unifi frequently not working. few times a year, and each time takes few days to a week.and true, this happens to unifi business. TM may bark about their 99.99% SLA, but their layman staff and contractor doesnt give a damm about that. kesian. the only time my unifi downtime is when electricity is downtime lel.thanks EV users for increasing our house area load lel. |
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kang6421
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Dec 26 2023, 01:44 PM
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Getting Started
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tell that to bank ATM system, i saw some still using windows xp
This post has been edited by kang6421: Dec 26 2023, 01:44 PM
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SUSTanahGagal
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Dec 26 2023, 01:45 PM
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Which mnc? QUOTE(RT8081 @ Dec 26 2023, 11:33 AM) Now MnC corps all issuing Macbook or windows laptop for business users. Sekarang Ada pilihan la |
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SUSxiaojohn
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Dec 26 2023, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 26 2023, 11:32 AM) Nobody uses Apple in REAL WORLD BUSINESS applications, that's why it's more easy for them... This is not true anymore. |
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SUSxiaojohn
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Dec 26 2023, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(TanahGagal @ Dec 26 2023, 01:45 PM) A lot leh…all mnc give macbook air nowadays… |
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fantasy1989
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Dec 26 2023, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(TanahGagal @ Dec 26 2023, 01:45 PM) QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 26 2023, 01:46 PM) A lot leh…all mnc give macbook air nowadays… got but towards very niche/few employees with strong justification (like specific use-case) This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Dec 26 2023, 01:48 PM |
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SUSxiaojohn
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Dec 26 2023, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(kang6421 @ Dec 26 2023, 01:44 PM) tell that to bank ATM system, i saw some still using windows xp ATM can use whatever OS they want…it is a stand alone mschine for cash withdrawals…nothing to do with MacOS |
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SUSxiaojohn
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Dec 26 2023, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 26 2023, 01:48 PM) got but towards very niche/few employees with strong justification (like specific use-case) It takes time. |
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netmatrix
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Dec 26 2023, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Dec 26 2023, 11:15 AM) Ayam just hope new operating system all comes with full features AI. Windows 11 already have built in Co pilot now. Edge has built in co pilot now. I would rather ask you, what do you expect out of AI assisted OS? |
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SUSxiaojohn
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Dec 26 2023, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 26 2023, 01:48 PM) got but towards very niche/few employees with strong justification (like specific use-case) Unker more kesian to those who still stick to windows laptop…now buy laptop: 1) better get the chipset that come with NPU/TPU 2) x86 is not efficient, windows also planning to phase it out 3) very soon their laptop will become dinasour |
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acbc
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Dec 26 2023, 01:58 PM
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Intel still no ARM compatible chips ka?
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SinzChan
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Dec 26 2023, 02:00 PM
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good luck lo, even transition in ATC alone will take centuries
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zerorating
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Dec 26 2023, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 26 2023, 01:55 PM) Unker more kesian to those who still stick to windows laptop…now buy laptop: 1) better get the chipset that come with NPU/TPU 2) x86 is not efficient, windows also planning to phase it out3) very soon their laptop will become dinasour kepala hotak ang. just because they starting support ARM doenst mean they going to phase out x86 anytime soon. microsoft dont even have ARM port for forza, halo, sea of thieves, etc |
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