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 2024 the year the PC finally dumps x86 for ARM, Thanks to Windows 12

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TSRT8081
post Dec 26 2023, 11:08 AM, updated 2y ago

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2024 could be the year the PC finally dumps x86 for Arm, all thanks to Windows 12 and Qualcomm's new chip.

Specifically, Microsoft is said to be working on a new build of Windows, codenamed Germanium, that supports Snapdragon X Elite (via Windows Central). It's said that the current Windows-for_arm builds of Microsoft's operating system aren't ready for Snapdragon X Elite. So the chip will have to wait for Germanium.


Read more : https://www.pcgamer.com/2024-could-be-the-y...comms-new-chip/



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post Dec 26 2023, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Dec 26 2023, 11:15 AM)
Ayam just hope new operating system all comes with full features AI.
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QUOTE(cms @ Dec 26 2023, 11:18 AM)
What improvement from current if comes with full AI?
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Heard it is coming with AI assistant
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post Dec 26 2023, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Dec 26 2023, 11:15 AM)
dumps? no. Dumping x86 all together is not practical in the short to medium term.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 11:25 AM)
dumping only happened when x86 emulation is fast enough.
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Dec 26 2023, 11:28 AM)
Hahhahahahahahha...
Almost whole world still using x86.
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Kasi chance la. Already they been talking like this since 2011, now buthurt with apple lol
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post Dec 26 2023, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(raidenphg @ Dec 26 2023, 11:10 AM)
Still a long way for that. transition period might take years.
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Yup

QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 26 2023, 11:14 AM)
or you could just use ubuntu which already had an arm build ages ago
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But Ubuntu not consumer friendly la. Playing game is a pain in the arse

QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 26 2023, 11:29 AM)
Many important business application is written on x86 platform such as banking/financial and manufacturing, I think Windows 11 will last forever for those machines.  laugh.gif
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That's what they said with win xp and 7 lol
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post Dec 26 2023, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 26 2023, 11:32 AM)
Nobody uses Apple in REAL WORLD BUSINESS applications, that's why it's more easy for them...
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Now MnC corps all issuing Macbook or windows laptop for business users. Sekarang Ada pilihan la
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post Dec 26 2023, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(wong_86 @ Dec 26 2023, 11:31 AM)
start from windows 10, the update patch is a joke, every time new major patch sure can make the devices like printer etc not working properly, disaster for corporate office..lol
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Hopefully no issues in win 12


QUOTE(hafiez @ Dec 26 2023, 11:32 AM)
tell that to gomen agency.

windows 98 special edition still in operational.
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Lol
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post Dec 26 2023, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 26 2023, 11:38 AM)
Apple silicon can't even use native database application, how the fucuk going to dominate the business users.

Oil and gas system are very complex with huge databases, need to use Windows servers hardware.
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That one is server related, of course windows and Linux la. Ayam talking about client machine.
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post Dec 26 2023, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 26 2023, 11:46 AM)
u don't understand? doh.gif

business application is written on x86 platform that is needed to run on client machine.
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U never heard of SaaS ke ? People nowadays all on AWS and Azure lol.

If u meant those 3 tier Architecture, then yes la. I thought we already move on lol
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post Dec 26 2023, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 11:48 AM)
butthurt for what? got killer apps on apple end meh?
games are still be made on PC first (after PS5 as the lead platform of course)

low power battery-life? meteor lake tried to address those
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Maybe smoother experience la

QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Dec 26 2023, 11:49 AM)
normal consumer applications like browsers compiled for arm64 still sucks, a lot more tooling improvement is needed before x86 can be "dumped".
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Yeah this is an issue also

QUOTE(caviars @ Dec 26 2023, 11:56 AM)
How cheap is the ARM version? Those high-end Snapdragon are not cheap.
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Yup but probably still cheaper than intel cpu

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post Dec 26 2023, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(asphiroth @ Dec 26 2023, 12:04 PM)
can it run crysis?
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On GFN, yes lol

QUOTE(caksz @ Dec 26 2023, 12:05 PM)
Still on Se7en ... 6 days till steam drop support ~
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post Dec 26 2023, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 26 2023, 12:09 PM)
Some companies don't like to use SaaS.

There are many disadvantages of SaaS.
-Data Security and Privacy Concerns
-Dependence on Internet Connectivity
-Limited Customization
-Vendor Control and Lock-In
-Downtime and Service Outages
-Long-Term Cost
-Lack of Control Over Updates
-Regulatory and Compliance Challenges
- Performance Concerns
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I see. Yeah, for those stil using the native x86 applications, then maybe need to stay on x86 la. Will take some time to transition or maybe they won't if it's working, why change
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post Dec 26 2023, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 12:14 PM)
lolwut?
x86 has been smooth when it come to web browsing since i dont know when.
video playback/transcoding are mostly depended on GPU now unless you want those extra quality compression with slow encoder preset.

the only main generalized use cases left for the need of faster CPU other than those niche use cases were high FPS gameplay, which is something ARM yet to deliver, most likely due to low clock speed and low size or high latency caches.
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It should be smooth on x86 or else no point using one lol

What I meant is MAC Os is smooth when comes to usage. I think now win 11 is the closest
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post Dec 26 2023, 06:53 PM

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Sorry guys, ayam just came back from makan angin lol

 

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