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 2024 the year the PC finally dumps x86 for ARM, Thanks to Windows 12

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post Dec 26 2023, 11:25 AM

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dumping only happened when x86 emulation is fast enough.
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post Dec 26 2023, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Dec 26 2023, 11:29 AM)
Kasi chance la. Already they been talking like this since 2011, now buthurt with apple lol
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butthurt for what? got killer apps on apple end meh?
games are still be made on PC first (after PS5 as the lead platform of course)

low power battery-life? meteor lake tried to address those
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post Dec 26 2023, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Dec 26 2023, 12:05 PM)
Maybe smoother experience la
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lolwut?
x86 has been smooth when it come to web browsing since i dont know when.
video playback/transcoding are mostly depended on GPU now unless you want those extra quality compression with slow encoder preset.

the only main generalized use cases left for the need of faster CPU other than those niche use cases were high FPS gameplay, which is something ARM yet to deliver, most likely due to low clock speed and low size or high latency caches.
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post Dec 26 2023, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Dec 26 2023, 01:22 PM)
It should be smooth on x86 or else no point using one lol

What I meant is MAC Os is smooth when comes to usage. I think now win 11 is the closest
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enthusiastic will tutup animation. why the obsession with one? if the program is ready to use, why we want to wait for the animation to complete running?
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post Dec 26 2023, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Dec 26 2023, 01:39 PM)
but we are in Malaysia, where unifi frequently not working. few times a year, and each time takes few days to a week.

and true, this happens to unifi business.
TM may bark about their 99.99% SLA, but their layman staff and contractor doesnt give a damm about that.
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kesian.
the only time my unifi downtime is when electricity is downtime lel.thanks EV users for increasing our house area load lel.
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post Dec 26 2023, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 26 2023, 01:55 PM)
Unker more kesian to those who still stick to windows laptop…now buy laptop:

1) better get the chipset that come with NPU/TPU
2) x86 is not efficient, windows also planning to phase it out
3) very soon their laptop will become dinasour
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kepala hotak ang.
just because they starting support ARM doenst mean they going to phase out x86 anytime soon.

microsoft dont even have ARM port for forza, halo, sea of thieves, etc
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post Dec 26 2023, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 26 2023, 02:10 PM)
The bigger gaming market is no longer at PC.
PC gaming development also reduce.
You got to wake up liao.
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then whats the point microsoft purchasing blizzard at 69billion again?
simple, gaming is how the platform will stay relevant.
last time when microsoft gathered bathesda, did they increase their mobile games portfolio? it still the same console+PC gaming formula.

development getting reduce? not sure about it, but game development cost sure increase and takes much longer time to develop, making game announcement news less frequent.
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post Dec 26 2023, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 26 2023, 02:30 PM)
LoL…obviously you do not follow their full story…the only objection come from Sony…

Nobody buy another company/technology for not doing anything on it…it is not because of the PC gamers for sure…you think too much
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its more like we dont know anything about it.
you think a big company like to spend billions here and there for acquisition? why they didnt seek for value acquisition, why die2 must be those established IPs?

good thing rockstar is not for sale, if it happened, im going to bet it going to be 3digit billions at least.'

answer me this, which news is more interested, a new microsoft office feature or an expansion for starfield?

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post Dec 26 2023, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 26 2023, 02:43 PM)
Blizzard know PC gaming is going down and in fact the PC gaming market size is much much much smaller than mobile gaming.

Period.
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the IPs are not stuck on PC gaming and console, anytime it can go down to mobile platform. never heard of diablo immortal?

now in the hand of microsoft, will they capitalize the mobile market even more or they tried hard to save PC/xbox gaming instead?
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post Dec 26 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 26 2023, 02:47 PM)
You just say out what unker had said.
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whatever it is, microsoft have bigger plan with blizzard activision IPs, it is something that havent revealed now.
for now, it just business as usual, tencent game, netease are still milking them IPs.
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post Dec 26 2023, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Dec 26 2023, 02:58 PM)
What will happen to all my x86 games?
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microsoft is still deciding if they want to move to arm64 or stay with x86.
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i think its all depends how good the upcoming zen5 will be. if it is stagnant, move to arm64, if it is good, stays with x86.
whatever it is, intel is no longer a decision factor.

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post Dec 26 2023, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 26 2023, 03:11 PM)
Since you can read.....

UNKER 2 cents: if can, do not buy any windows laptop for now....there is no TPU/NPU...

go for macbook
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uhmmmm, meteor lake and current 7000 and 8000 ryzen series is what?
also not many care about NPUs, the use case is still niche. even if you dont need it, it is good to know that the machine is somewhat AI ready.
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post Dec 26 2023, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 26 2023, 03:19 PM)
those cheap windows laptop <3k do not have it....
it will definately see the impact on the next windows upgrades
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close enough
https://shopee.com.my/HONOR-MagicBook-X14-P...6d-770e0917f2bc
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post Dec 26 2023, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 26 2023, 03:35 PM)
macbook air m1 = RM3500
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not meant for windows users.
and you huhah need NPU, you use that for apa lanjiao?
i dont see AI silicon replacing accelerated asic like video decoder/encoder.
laptop/desktop going to have AI image processing chip like what TV have(e.g samseng AI Quantum processor/TCL AiPQ)? dont see that happened yet.

 

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