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 2024 the year the PC finally dumps x86 for ARM, Thanks to Windows 12

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SUSxiaojohn
post Dec 26 2023, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 26 2023, 11:32 AM)
Nobody uses Apple in REAL WORLD BUSINESS applications, that's why it's more easy for them...
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This is not true anymore.
SUSxiaojohn
post Dec 26 2023, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(TanahGagal @ Dec 26 2023, 01:45 PM)
Which mnc?
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A lot leh…all mnc give macbook air nowadays…
SUSxiaojohn
post Dec 26 2023, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(kang6421 @ Dec 26 2023, 01:44 PM)
tell that to bank ATM system, i saw some still using windows xp
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ATM can use whatever OS they want…it is a stand alone mschine for cash withdrawals…nothing to do with MacOS
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post Dec 26 2023, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 26 2023, 01:48 PM)
got

but towards very niche/few employees with strong justification (like specific use-case)
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It takes time.
SUSxiaojohn
post Dec 26 2023, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 26 2023, 01:48 PM)
got

but towards very niche/few employees with strong justification (like specific use-case)
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Unker more kesian to those who still stick to windows laptop…now buy laptop:

1) better get the chipset that come with NPU/TPU
2) x86 is not efficient, windows also planning to phase it out
3) very soon their laptop will become dinasour
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post Dec 26 2023, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 02:03 PM)
kepala hotak ang.
just because they starting support ARM doenst mean they going to phase out x86 anytime soon.

microsoft dont even have ARM port for forza, halo, sea of thieves, etc
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The bigger gaming market is no longer at PC.
PC gaming development also reduce.
You got to wake up liao.
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post Dec 26 2023, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 02:25 PM)
then whats the point microsoft purchasing blizzard at 69billion again?
simple, gaming is how the platform will stay relevant.
last time when microsoft gathered bathesda, did they increase their mobile games portfolio? it still the same console+PC gaming formula.

development getting reduce? not sure about it, but game development cost sure increase and takes much longer time to develop, making game announcement news less frequent.
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LoL…obviously you do not follow their full story…the only objection come from Sony…

Nobody buy another company/technology for not doing anything on it…it is not because of the PC gamers for sure…you think too much

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post Dec 26 2023, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 02:41 PM)
its more like we dont know anything about it.
you think a big company like to spend billions here and there for acquisition? why they didnt seek for value acquisition, why die2 must be those established IPs?

good thing rockstar is not for sale, if it happened, im going to bet it going to be 3digit billions at least.
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Blizzard know PC gaming is going down and in fact the PC gaming market size is much much much smaller than mobile gaming.

Period.
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post Dec 26 2023, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 02:46 PM)
the IPs are not stuck on PC gaming and console, anytime it can go down to mobile platform. never heard of diablo immortal?

now in the hand of microsoft, will they capitalize the mobile market even more or they tried hard to save PC/xbox gaming instead?
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You just say out what unker had said.
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post Dec 26 2023, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 03:08 PM)
microsoft is still deciding if they want to move to arm64 or stay with x86.
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i think its all depends how good the upcoming zen5 will be. if it is stagnant, move to arm64, if it is good, stays with x86.
whatever it is, intel is no longer a decision factor.
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Since you can read.....

UNKER 2 cents: if can, do not buy any windows laptop for now....there is no TPU/NPU...

go for macbook
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post Dec 26 2023, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 03:16 PM)
uhmmmm, meteor lake and current 7000 and 8000 ryzen series is what?
also not many care about NPUs, the use case is still niche. even if you dont need it, it is good to know that the machine is somewhat AI ready.
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those cheap windows laptop <3k do not have it....
it will definately see the impact on the next windows upgrades
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post Dec 26 2023, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 03:34 PM)
macbook air m1 = RM3500
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post Dec 26 2023, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 26 2023, 03:42 PM)
not meant for windows users.
and you huhah need NPU, you use that for apa lanjiao?
i dont see AI silicon replacing accelerated asic like video decoder/encoder.
laptop/desktop going to have AI image processing chip like what TV have(e.g samseng AI Quantum processor/TCL AiPQ)? dont see that happened yet.
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can unker disclose the answer only by 2024 end? because unker want to plan my investment correctly first.

 

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