QUOTE(adam71 @ Dec 3 2023, 07:17 PM)
Far from that although still inherited design DNA from Peter horburyProton is not that near Volvo despite same parent. Lol
Proton S70 discussion, Budget Volvo sedan
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 3 2023, 06:52 PM) . Although the platform specifically says B segment platform but can also use for c segment as the platform wheelbase can be adjusted between 2550-2700https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_X50 .... Marketed as a B-segment SUV, ... Geely's BMA platform is likely referring to B-segment SUV, not B-segment Hatchbacks (<4m long). ....... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-segment_Mod...ecture_platform - B-segment Modular Architecture platform .... Applications Geely Binrui (A06) (2018–present) Geely Binyue/Coolray/Proton X50 (SX11) (2018–present) Geely Emgrand (SS11) (/Proton S70) (2021–present)/ Geely Icon (2020–present) Lynk & Co 06 (2020–present) ... https://www.timesnownews.com/auto/features/...rticle-93682238 - A B C D E and M: Different-car-segments-explained - 21 Aug 2022 . Just like daihatsu/perodua dnga B, can be between 2620 (vios ac100) till 2750 on veloz/alza And another one which used B segment platform before on c segment sedan was nissan Sylphy G11 (quite spacious at that time because wheelbase stretch to 2700, but width quite narrow compared to Altis, civic at that time) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sylphy |
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Looks like a geely saga
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2) Wear push up bra. 3) ??? 4) Profit! |
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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 3 2023, 08:02 PM) Although the platform specifically says B segment platform but can also use for c segment as the platform wheelbase can be adjusted between 2550-2700 it's a rebadged fourth generation emgrand. which segment is that emgrand?Just like daihatsu/perodua dnga B, can be between 2620 (vios ac100) till 2750 on veloz/alza And another one which used B segment platform before on c segment sedan was nissan Sylphy G11 (quite spacious at that time because wheelbase stretch to 2700, but width quite narrow compared to Altis, civic at that time) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sylphy |
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QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 3 2023, 08:29 PM) Why wiki say c segment?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geely_Emgrand |
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Dec 3 2023, 08:32 PM) Read the fourth gen |
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Dec 3 2023, 06:52 PM) . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_X50 .... Marketed as a B-segment SUV, ... Geely's BMA platform is likely referring to B-segment SUV, not B-segment Hatchbacks (<4m long). ....... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-segment_Mod...ecture_platform - B-segment Modular Architecture platform .... Applications Geely Binrui (A06) (2018–present) Geely Binyue/Coolray/Proton X50 (SX11) (2018–present) Geely Emgrand (SS11) (/Proton S70) (2021–present)/ Geely Icon (2020–present) Lynk & Co 06 (2020–present) ... https://www.timesnownews.com/auto/features/...rticle-93682238 - A B C D E and M: Different-car-segments-explained - 21 Aug 2022 . QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 3 2023, 08:02 PM) Although the platform specifically says B segment platform but can also use for c segment as the platform wheelbase can be adjusted between 2550-2700 .Just like daihatsu/perodua dnga B, can be between 2620 (vios ac100) till 2750 on veloz/alza And another one which used B segment platform before on c segment sedan was nissan Sylphy G11 (quite spacious at that time because wheelbase stretch to 2700, but width quite narrow compared to Altis, civic at that time) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sylphy Thanks for the clarification. Someone here was confused and stated that the Proton S70 is a B-segment sedan because it uses Geely's BMA platform, ie the Proton S70 is not a C-segment sedan. ....... ht tp s:/ /p a u l tan.o r g/2023/11/22/proton-s70-targets-japanese-b-seg-sedans-honda-city-toyota-vios-nissan-almera-civic-secondary/ - 2023/11/22 - Proton- S70-targets-japanese- B-segment -sedans - honda-city-toyota-vios-nissan-almera; Civic-secondary So, is the Proton S70 a B- or C-segment sedan? ... .... At the media preview, Mohd Haizam, vehicle program executive for engineering and technical, named the S70’s primary competitors as the Honda City, Toyota Vios and Nissan Almera. The sedan has ‘secondary competitors’ too, and unsurprisingly, the models are the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla. “In terms of capturing the market, I believe based on the performance of this car, we can somehow capture these two markets,” Mohd Haizam said, referring to B- and C-segment sedans. When asked why Proton did not bring the Civic and Corolla for comparison at the event, deputy CEO Roslan Abdullah said that the B-segment duo was presented as they served as a hint of the S70’s price, which will be revealed on November 28. So there you have it, a car marketed as a C-segment sedan but priced to compete with B-segment ones. ... ht tp s:/ /p a u l tan. o r g/2018/07/27/geely-bma-modular-platform-more-details-released/ - 2018/07/27 - Geely- BMA -modular-platform - -more-details-released . P S - Why can't the paultan website be linked at LYN.? . |
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alot of ppl debating is C-segment or B-segment, blahblahblah.
thruth is, proton wants to be competitive thus that is the sole reason why a C-segment size ish car being sold at B-segment car price like eg. vios/honda. it had all sorts of upper edge if compare to vios n city but losing end compare to altis n civic. |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 3 2023, 10:23 PM) . seven and paul gaduh , long life enemyThanks for the clarification. Someone here was confused and stated that the Proton S70 is a B-segment sedan because it uses Geely's BMA platform, ie the Proton S70 is not a C-segment sedan. ....... ht tp s:/ /p a u l tan.o r g/2023/11/22/proton-s70-targets-japanese-b-seg-sedans-honda-city-toyota-vios-nissan-almera-civic-secondary/ - 2023/11/22 - Proton- S70-targets-japanese- B-segment -sedans - honda-city-toyota-vios-nissan-almera; Civic-secondary So, is the Proton S70 a B- or C-segment sedan? ... .... At the media preview, Mohd Haizam, vehicle program executive for engineering and technical, named the S70’s primary competitors as the Honda City, Toyota Vios and Nissan Almera. The sedan has ‘secondary competitors’ too, and unsurprisingly, the models are the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla. “In terms of capturing the market, I believe based on the performance of this car, we can somehow capture these two markets,” Mohd Haizam said, referring to B- and C-segment sedans. When asked why Proton did not bring the Civic and Corolla for comparison at the event, deputy CEO Roslan Abdullah said that the B-segment duo was presented as they served as a hint of the S70’s price, which will be revealed on November 28. So there you have it, a car marketed as a C-segment sedan but priced to compete with B-segment ones. ... ht tp s:/ /p a u l tan. o r g/2018/07/27/geely-bma-modular-platform-more-details-released/ - 2018/07/27 - Geely- BMA -modular-platform - -more-details-released . P S - Why can't the paultan website be linked at LYN.? . General_Nic and lurkingaround liked this post
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QUOTE(tonewow @ Dec 3 2023, 04:23 PM) they purposely up it to c segment then so called priced it way cheaper than other c segments in the market. angkat kaki sokong.when in fact it is persona pricing at 55k max or even 65k max also ok. now keep angkut bakul sendiri shout up and down we are the best and cheapest c segmen...pricing at b segment vios city... the fact is you are proton the national car - should price at persona pricing...even at 55k b segment it is way too expensive at global level. b segment global benchmark - 30k max la kawan. persona so called kete rakyat pun potong leher kat 55k...tu pun kualiti cam panteet.... |
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QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 3 2023, 08:29 PM) QUOTE(mcchin @ Dec 3 2023, 08:32 PM) QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 3 2023, 08:35 PM) .Fyi, ....... https://www.wapcar.my/carpedia/what-is-car-classification-3 - what-is-car-classification.? - April 2021 .... B-Segment B-Segment cars are slightly larger in size than A-Segment ones. This segment is also known as "subcompact". The wheelbase of B-Segment cars usually ranges from 2,350 mm to 2,600 mm, while the body length ranges from 3,650 mm to 4,450 mm, with an engine displacement of 1.0-1.5 L. Typical B-Segment cars include: Honda Jazz / Fit, Ford Fiesta, Volkswagen Polo, Audi A1, Proton Persona, Proton X50, etc.. ... The Proton S70 has a wheelbase of 2627mm and a length of 4602mm = is a C-segment sedan in Malaysia. Source --> ....... https://www.zigwheels.my/new-cars/proton/s70/specifications . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Dec 3 2023, 10:55 PM xiaojohn liked this post
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 3 2023, 08:30 PM) Engine is derived from 2.0 4cylinder T5 but down to 3cylinder 1.5 on GEP3 version used by proton with GDI swapped with MPI so already stray away from Volvo original https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_Engine_Architecture xiaojohn liked this post
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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 3 2023, 11:06 PM) Engine is derived from 2.0 4cylinder T5 but down to 3cylinder 1.5 on GEP3 version used by proton with GDI swapped with MPI so already stray away from Volvo original I think Geely is happy to do anything they want because there is no emission standard required by Malaysia law; so they can just maximise the engine with no worrieshttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_Engine_Architecture |
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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 3 2023, 11:06 PM) Engine is derived from 2.0 4cylinder T5 but down to 3cylinder 1.5 on GEP3 version used by proton with GDI swapped with MPI so already stray away from Volvo original Zhangjiakou (张家口), a prefecture-level city under the jurisdiction of Hebei Province, is a central city in northwestern Hebei.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_Engine_Architecture The Volvo Engine Architecture (VEA) is a family of straight-three and straight-four automobile petrol and diesel engines produced by Volvo Cars in Skövde, Sweden, since 2013, Zhangjiakou, China since 2016 and Tanjung Malim, Malaysia since 2022 by Proton. Volvo markets all engines under the Drive–E designation, while Geely groups the three-cylinder variants with its other engines under the G-power name. These engines are some of the few ever put into production as twincharged engines, in the company of the Lancia Delta S4 and concept Jaguar CX-75. |
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