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post Dec 1 2023, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 1 2023, 04:10 PM)
Bro...i think it is not me confused...it is GEELY confused...

So you are saying GEELY want to market BMA as C-Segment in Malaysia/ASEAN? to follow and align with their CHINA standard? Is that correct?
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Correct, just that china version for both x90 and s70 are kinda down-market models (value oriented)

Malaysia version got upgraded trims and equipment because cannot sell too cheap, localisation rate not as high as perodua
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post Dec 1 2023, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Dec 1 2023, 04:51 PM)
Congrats

Peepul here all merapu alot one lah.. like it buy it end of stori
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Again, this is not true. We still need the product knowledge and more detail.
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post Dec 1 2023, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 1 2023, 04:52 PM)
Correct, just that china version for both x90 and s70 are kinda down-market models (value oriented)

Malaysia version got upgraded trims and equipment because cannot sell too cheap, localisation rate not as high as perodua
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Unker agreed.
But unker don’t think localisation is really needed now.
They should apply the same international standard.
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post Dec 1 2023, 05:19 PM

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Btw, this S70 will definitely become Police car and Government car.

So you guys shouldn’t worries about there is no sales for S70.
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post Dec 1 2023, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 1 2023, 05:15 PM)
Again, this is not true. We still need the product knowledge and more detail.
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You can go on research everything but we end up no mtuch choice.. either go buy the usual jepenis or buy cheapo perodua or now china cars
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post Dec 1 2023, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 30 2023, 05:06 PM)
No Perodua Bezza ?

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Here you go....

1) unker add perodua MYVI and AXIA into the list...
2) Also, under add NISSAN Almera
3) Unker add their engine model

So sad you guys forget about NISSAN

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post Dec 1 2023, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Dec 1 2023, 05:23 PM)
You can go on research everything but we end up no mtuch choice.. either go buy the usual jepenis or buy cheapo perodua or now china cars
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unker just update the latest...

i think

1) Power (HP/Torque) = C-Seg
2) Car Weight (KG) = C-Seg
3) Whellbase (mm) = B-Seg

update: B-Seg or C-Seg actually very blur and the best is still refer back to the wheelbase length in mm....

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 1 2023, 04:52 PM)
Correct, just that china version for both x90 and s70 are kinda down-market models (value oriented)

Malaysia version got upgraded trims and equipment because cannot sell too cheap, localisation rate not as high as perodua
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after check in all the car models...unker think you're right


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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 1 2023, 06:36 PM)
unker just update the latest...

i think

1) Power (HP/Torque) = C-Seg
2) Car Weight (KG) = C-Seg
3) Whellbase (mm) = B-Seg

update: B-Seg or C-Seg actually very blur and the best is still refer back to the wheelbase length in mm....

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For most ah can go from a to b got aircind can sit few people inside done hahaha
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post Dec 1 2023, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 1 2023, 06:36 PM)
unker just update the latest...

i think

1) Power (HP/Torque) = C-Seg
2) Car Weight (KG) = C-Seg
3) Whellbase (mm) = B-Seg

update: B-Seg or C-Seg actually very blur and the best is still refer back to the wheelbase length in mm....
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??? .......

https://www.timesnownews.com/auto/features/...rticle-93682238 - A B C D E and M -different-car-segments-explained - 21 Aug 2022
.... B-segment = Hatchbacks (<4 meters long), eg Honda Jazz. ...

C-segment = Sedans = 1. Compact Sedans (<4 meters long), eg Honda Amaze, ... or ....
2. Small Sedans (<5 meters long), eg Honda City (and Honda Civic).

D-segment = Mid-sized Luxury Sedan, eg BMW 3 and Hyundai Elantra (Honda Accord) (>5 meters long.?) ...

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So, the Proton S70 should be under C-segment Small Sedan.
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post Dec 1 2023, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 1 2023, 07:28 PM)
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??? .......

https://www.timesnownews.com/auto/features/...rticle-93682238 - A B C D E and M -different-car-segments-explained - 21 Aug 2022
.... B-segment = Hatchbacks (<4 meters long), eg Honda Jazz. ...

C-segment = Sedans = 1. Compact Sedans (<4 meters long), eg Honda Amaze, ... or ....
2. Small Sedans (<5 meters long), eg Honda City (and Honda Civic).

D-segment = Mid-sized Luxury Sedan, eg BMW 3 and Hyundai Elantra (Honda Accord)  (>5 meters long.?) ...

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So, the Proton S70 should be under C-segment Small Sedan.
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this report can throw liao....

go read what is Geely BMA platform...

Thank you.
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post Dec 1 2023, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 1 2023, 07:30 PM)
this report can throw liao....

go read what is Geely BMA platform...

Thank you.
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???
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https://www.proton.com/en/happenings/2023/o...-the-proton-s70 - Proton-launches-new- C-segment-sedan -the- Proton S70 - 28 Nov 2023
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post Dec 1 2023, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 1 2023, 07:33 PM)
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https://www.proton.com/en/happenings/2023/o...-the-proton-s70 - 2023/october - Proton-launches-new- C-segment-sedan-the- Proton S70
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Proton = agent/resaler

This is just marketing info in the link

again, Unker recommend you go and read the BMA platform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-segment_Mod...ecture_platform

Even so,

1) Proton didn't mentioned/claim S70 is using BMA platform
2) Proton S70 is shorter wheelbase compare to EMGrand
3) information already provided in erlier tered and you can take a look

This post has been edited by xiaojohn: Dec 1 2023, 07:38 PM
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post Dec 1 2023, 07:38 PM

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Gadget come aldy

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post Dec 1 2023, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Dec 1 2023, 07:38 PM)

Gadget come aldy
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No comment to their watch....but, at least they use a right promoter in this video

young
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and speak BM

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post Dec 1 2023, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Dec 1 2023, 07:33 PM)
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???
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https://www.proton.com/en/happenings/2023/o...-the-proton-s70 - Proton-launches-new- C-segment-sedan -the- Proton S70 - 28 Nov 2023
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 1 2023, 07:35 PM)
Proton = agent/resaler

This is just marketing info in the link

again, Unker recommend you go and read the BMA platform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-segment_Mod...ecture_platform

Even so,

1) Proton didn't mentioned/claim S70 is using BMA platform
2) Proton S70 is shorter wheelbase compare to EMGrand
3) information already provided in erlier tered and you can take a look
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From your wiki link, .......

The B-segment Modular Architecture (BMA) is a global compact unibody automobile platform developed by Geely Auto. ...
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The use of BMA allows for higher economies of scale, as all vehicles based on BMA will have a high rate of commonality with shared parts and components reaching 70 percent, reducing costs and time needed for component testing. With the use of BMA, vehicle development time may be shortened from over 36 months on average to just 18 to 24 months. ....

= BMA only applies to Geely and Geely-based Proton cars wrt it's manufacturing process, ie Geely's BMA does not apply globally to the segmentation of every car.

Of course, what you define wrt the B and C segments may apply to the Proton S70 which is Geely-based. But when you compare the Proton S70 with other (non-Proton S70) car brands wrt their segments, your Geely definition cannot apply.
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Does Geely/Proton manufacturing a C-segment sedan car like the Proton S70/Geely Emgrand on a compact B-segment (hatchback) unibody automobile platform, create instability or other chassis problems, especially in the long run.? Similarly for the M-segment Proton X50 and X70 SUV.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Dec 1 2023, 07:41 PM)
No comment to their watch....but, at least they use a right promoter in this video

young
male
malay

and speak BM

rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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uncle John so this car can buy or not

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post Dec 2 2023, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Dec 1 2023, 11:55 PM)
uncle John so this car can buy or not

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6:30


Ok


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post Dec 2 2023, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 30 2023, 01:59 PM)
need hack code for proton use



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fugly, anyway to plug in ipad to use as car play?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 2 2023, 12:38 AM)
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Ok
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Very white and creamy

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