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adamw
post Feb 25 2024, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Feb 25 2024, 08:48 AM)
Trina is AAA grade for solar panel Woh

U should worry more on the inverter instead
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The panel will be up on the roof for 10 years up so I worry more on the quality of it rather than inverter. If Micro inverter can get 10-12years warranty, easier to claim. Panels very tedious processs to claim warranty so I make sure I get the best. My next target is to test Hi-Mo 7.
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post Feb 25 2024, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Feb 25 2024, 09:18 AM)
The panel will be up on the roof for 10 years up so I worry more on the quality of it rather than inverter. If Micro inverter can get 10-12years warranty, easier to claim. Panels very tedious processs to claim warranty so I make sure I get the best. My next target is to test Hi-Mo 7.
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Himo7 from longi? I think both longi and Trina also good and rated AAA

My system was upgraded from 565wp Canadian solar to 600wp Trina because contractor out of stock the 565wp so I'm happy
nikitaaa
post Feb 25 2024, 04:12 PM

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Why is everyone so sceptical over solar.. am I missing something .
Btw I on nem , this is my 26 months..
I'm using 24 panels and it's really helping me save. Rm 700 bill to rm0-10. However since the past 3 months , I'm paying around rm20-40 each month.
It's not cheap I admit, but wit cc epp 24 months, n it u don't intend to move houses every few years, I do think it's beneficial.

Btw I also gotten myself insurance for solar around300 per year to cover accidental damages to the system.

My only issue right now is, my monthly import is 1100 units and my worry is If I buy an ev, my entire bill will be jacked up due to the surcharge . And charging in the afternoon might not be v feasible for me since I need to drive to office every other day.
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post Feb 25 2024, 04:15 PM

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My post might be long, but if ur bill is consistently high, and if u can afford it( u can , if not u won't be racking such high usage each month), den consider solar.. unless it's something I'm really missing..
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post Feb 25 2024, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Oct 3 2023, 10:47 AM)
mind sharing your appliance usage to reach 800rm tnb bill?
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post Feb 25 2024, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(nikitaaa @ Feb 25 2024, 04:12 PM)
Why is everyone so sceptical over solar.. am I missing something .
Btw I on nem , this is my  26 months..
I'm using 24 panels and it's really helping me save. Rm 700 bill to rm0-10. However since the past 3 months , I'm paying around rm20-40 each month.
It's not cheap I admit, but wit cc epp 24 months, n it u don't intend to move houses every few years, I do think it's beneficial.

Btw I also gotten myself insurance for solar around300 per year to cover accidental damages to the system.

My only issue right now is, my monthly import is 1100 units and my worry is If I buy an ev, my entire bill will be jacked up due to the surcharge . And charging in the afternoon might not be v feasible for me since I need to drive to office every other day.
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Just charge at the weekend. I believe your system should be about 14kwp. Say u can get average 8kw from 11am to 4pm for Saturday and Sunday, U should get at least 80kwh there and fully charge your EV. 80kwh worth of battery capacity can easily bring u a range of at least 400km, or even over 500km if u have an efficient EV

This post has been edited by yeapsc73: Feb 27 2024, 11:00 AM
hjh87
post Feb 25 2024, 09:24 PM

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Love to hear from NEM 2.0 adopters as it's almost been 5 years since this scheme was introduced on January 1st, 2019. What's the ROI to date? And over the 5-year period, how much have you spent on unforeseen costs like maintenance, malfunctions, and others? This way, most of us can understand the actual case: is solar worth it?"
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post Feb 26 2024, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Feb 24 2024, 11:40 PM)
Actually, it depends on your Tnb usage. From there you can calculate and see if you feel it’s worth it or not.

Let me give u an example.

You have 25k cash in hand. Ur bill consistently rm350

You don’t need to pay 25k cash to solar installer.

You just need to get a card with credit limit 25k. And swipe it on epp max 60 months. And that will be 416.66 per month at zero interes repayment.

So right now, u still have ur cash with you which u can invest whereeger u want.

And your new bill for Tnb could be rm3.

So u effectively just pay for solar and already paying the minimal amount to Tnb.

So u are utilizing ur credit limit to work for you. And after 5 years the system is yours and still helping u save rm350.

Even if u don’t have credit card and u decide to use the cash, 25k.

Every month, ur 25k system will help u save rm350 ringgit , and one year is about 4200

If I put 25k in bank, I will only have 1250 per annum at 5 percent.  And that interest is not enough to cover 4200 bill thst I have to py Tnb anyway.
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Or u can be like my boss, borrow loan from bank since they are now pushing for the ESG thing.

According to him (can't rmbr the exact amount he told me), says his monthly bill can go around 600. With loan, the installment is about 500. Tnb bill after the solar panel is now 50. So still got 50 in return compare to before solar panel.

But he didn't mention about the maintenance part la.
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post Feb 26 2024, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Feb 25 2024, 09:24 PM)
Love to hear from NEM 2.0 adopters as it's almost been 5 years since this scheme was introduced on January 1st, 2019. What's the ROI to date? And over the 5-year period, how much have you spent on unforeseen costs like maintenance, malfunctions, and others? This way, most of us can understand the actual case: is solar worth it?"
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NEM 3.0 here, almost 3 years (2y11m), ROI RM26852.02 ... cost RM38k. zero maintenance cost or malfunction or others.
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post Feb 26 2024, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Feb 26 2024, 04:31 PM)
NEM 3.0 here, almost 3 years (2y11m), ROI RM26852.02 ... cost RM38k. zero maintenance cost or malfunction or others.
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Meaning less than 5 years n after that almost free electricity, very the good. thumbsup.gif
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post Feb 26 2024, 05:44 PM

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post Feb 26 2024, 05:52 PM

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This NEM and ROI is all based on your system capacity. The larger the system the faster the ROI. In short it is huge savings for the rich but little to non benefit for the poor. I have calculated for those electricity usage less than RM200 there is little to no benefits because you need to pay up front and the ROI takes 7 to 8 years and within these period of time, anything happen to your solar panel or inverter is not covered after the initial 12 months.
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post Feb 26 2024, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(nikitaaa @ Feb 25 2024, 04:12 PM)
Why is everyone so sceptical over solar.. am I missing something .
Btw I on nem , this is my  26 months..
I'm using 24 panels and it's really helping me save. Rm 700 bill to rm0-10. However since the past 3 months , I'm paying around rm20-40 each month.
It's not cheap I admit, but wit cc epp 24 months, n it u don't intend to move houses every few years, I do think it's beneficial.

Btw I also gotten myself insurance for solar around300 per year to cover accidental damages to the system.

My only issue right now is, my monthly import is 1100 units and my worry is If I buy an ev, my entire bill will be jacked up due to the surcharge . And charging in the afternoon might not be v feasible for me since I need to drive to office every other day.
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Possible to topup 2 more panels? then you will be able to offset the extra load of EVs
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post Feb 26 2024, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 26 2024, 05:40 PM)
Meaning less than 5 years n after that almost free electricity, very the good. thumbsup.gif
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Yes, looking forwards to next 15 years or more of Free electric power.
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post Feb 26 2024, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Feb 26 2024, 05:52 PM)
This NEM and ROI is all based on your system capacity. The larger the system the faster the ROI. In short it is huge savings for the rich but little to non benefit for the poor. I have calculated for those electricity usage less than RM200 there is little to no benefits because you need to pay up front and the ROI takes 7 to 8 years and within these period of time, anything happen to your solar panel or inverter is not covered after the initial 12 months.
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It’s 10-25 years. Not 12 month.

String inverter is up to 10 years. Micro can go up to 25 years warranty.
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post Feb 26 2024, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Feb 26 2024, 07:01 PM)
It’s 10-25 years. Not 12 month.

String inverter is up to 10 years. Micro can go up to 25 years warranty.
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String inverter how much if rosak?

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post Feb 26 2024, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Feb 26 2024, 07:16 PM)
String inverter how much if rosak?
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Depending on capacity. But within NEM, it’s covered. So no question how much.
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post Feb 26 2024, 07:51 PM

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What would be the cost if install solar with battery for off-grid and not under NEM. Meaning using solely solar and only would tap into TNB if solar power not enuf.
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post Feb 26 2024, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Feb 26 2024, 07:51 PM)
What would be the cost if install solar with battery for off-grid and not under NEM. Meaning using solely solar and only would tap into TNB if solar power not enuf.
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Right now unless u are in a remote area and don’t have Tnb, u are better off with solar and NEM.

BATTERY u can consider when after 10 years. Or u have sensitive appliances that need constant power.

The cost will be about 5k for a 5kwh storage. Depending on how much u need. Just for a reference.
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post Feb 27 2024, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Feb 26 2024, 05:52 PM)
This NEM and ROI is all based on your system capacity. The larger the system the faster the ROI. In short it is huge savings for the rich but little to non benefit for the poor. I have calculated for those electricity usage less than RM200 there is little to no benefits because you need to pay up front and the ROI takes 7 to 8 years and within these period of time, anything happen to your solar panel or inverter is not covered after the initial 12 months.
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