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ListenToTheWind
post Feb 24 2024, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Feb 24 2024, 10:07 PM)
I installed too, cuz I see all these EV, BLA BLA
Even my bill per month is 300, I estimate within next 3-5 years my bill will goes to RM400-450. Cuz my kid is growing

NEM3.0 until end of this year only. So took the chance while I got $$

My best day is 30kwh/day, average 25kwh for 12 panel
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How much you install bero?

I wanted to install but after NEM if you got no battery, you can only make use of the solar during day time whereas day time most people not at home and only utilize aircond at night during sleep. And battery cost lot of money.

I think for now I rather use the money put into some investment vehicle that generate 5%, and use the return to pay for utility bill.
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post Feb 24 2024, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(teslaman @ Feb 24 2024, 10:54 PM)
So direct feed to network

and night time withdraw from TNB

I have farm, meter on commercial rate, there is such scheme also ?
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Yes, under Nova. If you can cut off the middleman ROI would be greatly reduced. This month will import 2 more pallets of panels but this round will try new brand instead of Trina.

This post has been edited by adamw: Feb 24 2024, 11:39 PM
bee88
post Feb 24 2024, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Feb 24 2024, 11:26 PM)
How much you install bero?

I wanted to install but after NEM if you got no battery, you can only make use of the solar during day time whereas day time most people not at home and only utilize aircond at night during sleep. And battery cost lot of money.

I think for now I rather use the money put into some investment vehicle that generate 5%, and use the return to pay for utility bill.
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Actually, it depends on your Tnb usage. From there you can calculate and see if you feel it’s worth it or not.

Let me give u an example.

You have 25k cash in hand. Ur bill consistently rm350

You don’t need to pay 25k cash to solar installer.

You just need to get a card with credit limit 25k. And swipe it on epp max 60 months. And that will be 416.66 per month at zero interes repayment.

So right now, u still have ur cash with you which u can invest whereeger u want.

And your new bill for Tnb could be rm3.

So u effectively just pay for solar and already paying the minimal amount to Tnb.

So u are utilizing ur credit limit to work for you. And after 5 years the system is yours and still helping u save rm350.

Even if u don’t have credit card and u decide to use the cash, 25k.

Every month, ur 25k system will help u save rm350 ringgit , and one year is about 4200

If I put 25k in bank, I will only have 1250 per annum at 5 percent. And that interest is not enough to cover 4200 bill thst I have to py Tnb anyway.

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post Feb 24 2024, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(SurpriseZZZZZ @ Oct 3 2023, 10:52 AM)
Do you know the NEM only valid for 10 years? Your "return" has an expiry date. Year 1-5 trying to recover, then Year 6-10 you earn some. Year 11 onwards, you are on your own.
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post Feb 24 2024, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Feb 24 2024, 11:40 PM)
Actually, it depends on your Tnb usage. From there you can calculate and see if you feel it’s worth it or not.

Let me give u an example.

You have 25k cash in hand. Ur bill consistently rm350

You don’t need to pay 25k cash to solar installer.

You just need to get a card with credit limit 25k. And swipe it on epp max 60 months. And that will be 416.66 per month at zero interes repayment.

So right now, u still have ur cash with you which u can invest whereeger u want.

And your new bill for Tnb could be rm3.

So u effectively just pay for solar and already paying the minimal amount to Tnb.

So u are utilizing ur credit limit to work for you. And after 5 years the system is yours and still helping u save rm350.

Even if u don’t have credit card and u decide to use the cash, 25k.

Every month, ur 25k system will help u save rm350 ringgit , and one year is about 4200

If I put 25k in bank, I will only have 1250 per annum at 5 percent.  And that interest is not enough to cover 4200 bill thst I have to py Tnb anyway.
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Oh, wait I try to apply for a new credit card. Hopefully they approve with enough limit.
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post Feb 24 2024, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Feb 24 2024, 11:38 PM)
Yes, under Nova. If you can cut off the middleman ROI would be greatly reduced. This month will import 2 more pallets of panels but this round will try new brand instead of Trina.
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If we import and setup our own, can get approval from TNB for their NEM program? From where I read on TNB, need to appoint a contractor.
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post Feb 24 2024, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Feb 24 2024, 11:48 PM)
If we import and setup our own, can get approval from TNB for their NEM program? From where I read on TNB, need to appoint a contractor.
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Not for faint hearted I would say. From sourcing the pnels to installation and commision and applying for nem. Yes, u need seda approved service provider to help apply.

But solar is something u want to have assurance it will work for a long period of time , so engaging a provider isn’t that bad idea. Ur roi could be improved if u diy but when u have problem, u might have trouble to troubleshoot or getting warranty done.

But if you are competent and a builder urself, why not learn more about it and DIY.
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post Feb 25 2024, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Feb 24 2024, 11:54 PM)
Not for faint hearted I would say. From sourcing the pnels to installation and commision and applying for nem. Yes, u need seda approved service provider to help apply.

But solar is something u want to have assurance it will work for a long period of time , so engaging a provider isn’t that bad idea. Ur roi could be improved if u diy but when u have problem, u might have trouble to troubleshoot or getting warranty done.

But if you are competent and a builder urself, why not learn more about it and DIY.
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I just check around. 20 panels 500w cost about rm6k, really can save a lot money.
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post Feb 25 2024, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Feb 24 2024, 11:26 PM)
How much you install bero?

I wanted to install but after NEM if you got no battery, you can only make use of the solar during day time whereas day time most people not at home and only utilize aircond at night during sleep. And battery cost lot of money.

I think for now I rather use the money put into some investment vehicle that generate 5%, and use the return to pay for utility bill.
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RM22k
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post Feb 25 2024, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Feb 25 2024, 12:01 AM)
I just check around. 20 panels 500w cost about rm6k, really can save a lot money.
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Like I said, it’s cheaper if you know your stuff, but if you don’t, better get a certified solar provider. Or else, it is not as easy as buying solar panels at 6k.


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post Feb 25 2024, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Feb 25 2024, 12:05 AM)
Like I said, it’s cheaper if you know your stuff, but if you don’t, better get a certified solar provider. Or else, it is not as easy as buying solar panels at 6k.
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I am quite confident I can set it up, of course with the guide of the hardware provider as well some youtube DIY video. My only concern is getting approval for NEM from TNB.

adamw seem got experience setting up his own.
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post Feb 25 2024, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Feb 24 2024, 11:24 PM)
Actually got la. Hotel also got install. Same goes to Homestay too. It all depends on the owner themselves whether they know about the scheme or not. Also some are quite skeptical and keep wondering battery lah, maintenance lah, Tnb not stupid lah and etc. these are the misconception that often stop ppl from seeing the potential of solar. Just like ev too. Some ppl Jsut don’t believe in ev though they never try before.
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How long you use adi the solar?
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post Feb 25 2024, 12:31 AM

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Is the solar collection consistent through out the entire year? Feels like some certain month it's always raining or cloudy
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post Feb 25 2024, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Feb 24 2024, 11:48 PM)
If we import and setup our own, can get approval from TNB for their NEM program? From where I read on TNB, need to appoint a contractor.
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Yes, need go through a PV Service Provider(RPVSP)
QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Feb 25 2024, 12:01 AM)
I just check around. 20 panels 500w cost about rm6k, really can save a lot money.
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Tier 1 brand A grade 500W can get RM300 here? I don't need to import already if like that.
QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Feb 25 2024, 12:31 AM)
Is the solar collection consistent through out the entire year? Feels like some certain month it's always raining or cloudy
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Average, so good months will cover up for the bad months. TNB will stored your excess for 1 year.

This post has been edited by adamw: Feb 25 2024, 12:58 AM
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post Feb 25 2024, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Feb 25 2024, 12:31 AM)
Is the solar collection consistent through out the entire year? Feels like some certain month it's always raining or cloudy
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ofcourse not. also the panel efficient will reduce gradually over the years..
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post Feb 25 2024, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Feb 25 2024, 12:18 AM)
How long you use adi the solar?
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Now entering second year.
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post Feb 25 2024, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Feb 25 2024, 12:31 AM)
Is the solar collection consistent through out the entire year? Feels like some certain month it's always raining or cloudy
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Usually for rainy months, the production will be about 10-30% lesser than sunny months. Depending on the weather of your place.
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post Feb 25 2024, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Feb 24 2024, 09:14 PM)
Those do hotel and homestay why no install?
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Homestay every day ada orang sewa? Hotel slowly and surely ... many supermarket sudah ada....

Anyway I don't speak for them ...haha
You can asked me about mine.



This post has been edited by etan26: Feb 25 2024, 09:28 AM
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post Feb 25 2024, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Oct 3 2023, 10:56 AM)
My friend just consider change from this to solar.

He said not worth the effort to adjust meter. Everyday live in fear.
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If still using old meter....use airplane powerful magnet lo..
I bought it and yahoo...meter really slow slow..

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post Feb 25 2024, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Feb 24 2024, 11:38 PM)
Yes, under Nova. If you can cut off the middleman ROI would be greatly reduced. This month will import 2 more pallets of panels but this round will try new brand instead of Trina.
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Trina is AAA grade for solar panel Woh

U should worry more on the inverter instead

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