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post Feb 24 2024, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 10:38 AM)
Hi k/

I installed solar panel for my house 4 months ago. Total cost RM47000 for 26 pcs. Don't know the detail much cos not important to me. All i know is they write Jinko solar 550wp.

So far my average bill from RM800+ reduce to RM40-50. That's a whooping 20% return p.a


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If so good then tnb tutup kilang adi.
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post Feb 24 2024, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Feb 24 2024, 09:11 PM)
You belum cuba belum tahu, sudah cuba hari hari mau.....

Not everyone benefited from solar if their usages are low like RM200-300 monthly bill.
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Those do hotel and homestay why no install?
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post Feb 24 2024, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Feb 24 2024, 09:28 PM)
How u know theres no install?
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U think all those ppl installing all stupid if it is not beneficial?
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Ask TS feedback after 5 years and 10 years

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post Feb 25 2024, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Feb 24 2024, 11:24 PM)
Actually got la. Hotel also got install. Same goes to Homestay too. It all depends on the owner themselves whether they know about the scheme or not. Also some are quite skeptical and keep wondering battery lah, maintenance lah, Tnb not stupid lah and etc. these are the misconception that often stop ppl from seeing the potential of solar. Just like ev too. Some ppl Jsut don’t believe in ev though they never try before.
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How long you use adi the solar?
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post Feb 26 2024, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Feb 26 2024, 07:01 PM)
It’s 10-25 years. Not 12 month.

String inverter is up to 10 years. Micro can go up to 25 years warranty.
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String inverter how much if rosak?

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post Feb 29 2024, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Feb 29 2024, 11:37 AM)
Yeah... I'm "atas pagar" currently. My bill is around the 600kWH range, some months higher and some months lower. But I did do the necessary basic research and my conclusion is that it is great investment for those that have their bills of RM300 and above but for those with smaller bill, the economy benefits diminishes, but still the good things is one's carbon foot print reduce
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If its jual by tnb for sure tnb adi calculate everything adi where can so good let you have so good roi after 5 or 10 years lo, if yes means they will have lesser profit adi. that why after 12 years 2036 then can ask bee88 is it really so good so cheap2 le and the solar reli problem free.

later after 15years again need install a new one and pump another 50k laugh.gif

unless not jual by tnb la and impossible so good give you warranty 10 years this and that la.

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post Feb 29 2024, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Feb 29 2024, 12:09 PM)
it is not sold by TNB dude (although gsparx under TNB also doing but their price hell expensive)

anyway do u notice that your TNB bill got this 1.6% extra charges for renewable energy fund. Yes, u r right. U r funding us who already install solar muahahaha.
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if hell expensive one lagi danger because now of course will promise you the moon ler, after 10 years then they also can find 100 reasons not to approve your claim if got faulty.

after 15 years include inflation, not 50k liao probably 80k if install a new one again( assuming can last 15years la that thing)

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post Feb 29 2024, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Feb 29 2024, 12:16 PM)
i already got back my ROI after 6 years bro, after that is free electricity
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post Feb 29 2024, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Feb 29 2024, 12:25 PM)
Mine is even better after 4.5 years already FREE electricity for next 15 years or more ....
Believed me or not ..
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actually tnb generate the power sure the cost is lower de. let say 1 unit they charge you 0.516, probably the cost only 0.1 only. So you pay the 50k for example la, so they also benefit a lot adi. Most important is how long that thing can last? of course nw they can promise you all the moon. This one need you to tell us after 12 years.


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post Feb 29 2024, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Feb 29 2024, 02:54 PM)
dont bother to reply him lah i bet he dunno what he is talking about

anyway, one unit electricity cost TNB about 40sen

https://focusmalaysia.my/electricity-tariff...wer-rates-down/
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You call that article as proof? Based on which research 40sen cost? If noob dont know what is credible proof then dont trolling
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post Feb 29 2024, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Feb 29 2024, 03:18 PM)
In this discussion context, the cost of electricity generation is not in concern because regardless of the cost, the electricity tariff is set by the government + Tnb. Even if their cost is free or if higher due to high fuel price, consumers still pays the same tariff.

The important question is can us consumers benefits from the NEM or so call solar project.
The answer is yes or no (well depends on ones energy consumption), the more energy you use, the more saving you get back in a shorted time. For those usage less than RM100, don't bother at all.
Something like the rich use credit card spent and get cash back/rewards point + delay in repayment... the poor pay with cash get nothing.

As for how long the system last can last? All NEM package is only 10 years contracts. After 10 years there is no obligation for TnB to buy your electricity even if all your equipment is functioning. So the ROI needs to be fully recoup within 10 years else it is consider loss
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Cost is always concern because tnb alwasy must maintain the profit or increase it. So no way can let you so nice cheap electricity if you can afford larger solar in long term. Based on their billions profit yearly with tremendous electric stealing still can maintain so high profit can infer lower cost.


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post Feb 29 2024, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Feb 29 2024, 03:36 PM)
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and shut up
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Reli bodo. They tell 2.6 is donation why you dont believe? Gullible like h
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post Feb 29 2024, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Feb 29 2024, 03:46 PM)
Haha.. if that is what you think then no way to proof anything already. Since you think TnB makes tons of money and will not rugi... You should invest Kaw Kaw in TnB stock  tongue.gif

As already mention, one cannot do anything about the tariff, unless you are PM, I bet TnB CEO also cannot suka suka change the tariff.....

What we can do here is to play the game within the tariff. The solar project is good for those that uses the higher part of the tariff... that just that....
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Whatever le if dun believe lower cost. Problem is if ur machine got rosak at year 12, then will u buy again at 80k?
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post Feb 29 2024, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Feb 29 2024, 04:11 PM)
Even if I believe you... I still need to pay what the tariff TnB charged me.
The problem in discussion here is, if one can recoup his investment in 10 years time... No need to say until 12 year... Generally let assume that the machine become of 0 value at year 10 due to NEM contract lapsed.
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Jus to tell u your perception about roi is not reliable je since u wont know the real cost as they have plenty of power backup. I believe they can sell u that price because they generate the power themselves. If the users are getting alot sure that solar panel price will increase also.
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post Feb 29 2024, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Feb 29 2024, 04:20 PM)
Actually are u using solar right now? How come u sound like kena Cheated by solar company jer?

If got bad experience, why not share so thst others can learn from it ?
So far your arguments look petty  and don’t really reflect the reality of solar in Malaysia. 

Perhaps you can try to read up on NEM, look at your bill, and reflect if NEM is the way forward for you to reduce your commitment.
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No still waiting for your proof that your things can last more than 10 years without forking additional cost. As talk is always cheap.

Reality is I doubt there is even 0.01% of solar users here.

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post Feb 29 2024, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Feb 29 2024, 05:02 PM)
So what will you suggest to be use to evaluate as in your opinion you think that ROI it is not reliable?

For common consumers... the tariff... which can be tracked all through the years is easy to understand and can be use fairly easily to know if one earn or loss from his Solar project. That will be the predicted ROI.

Of course you are not totally wrong as the ROI is calculated based on current and previous tariff which is predicted to constantly increase. But who know suddenly there is a new oid field found and oil price drop dirt cheap and electric tariff follow suit, or some mad scientist suddenly able to produce electricity out of thin air and electricity tarif price drop rendering solar ROI to zero.
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How you check how much ur solar generate the power per day? Is there something like your smartphone can know the percentage of your battery? If not then you just don't know ler since tnb install all for you only.

If private company its very risky and expensive as they can anytime close shop and then open a new company again

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post Feb 29 2024, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Feb 29 2024, 05:21 PM)
Actually there is an app to check. The inverter can now do such things... if you don't trust the report by TnB. It is also possible to measure the PV generation.. using power meter. Maybe you can check with solar agent and ask more question... but generally the monitoring part is there.
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Then take video show the power meter here instead of all just words. If cannot accept criticism why open thread? We are now accessing evidence not just words.
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post Feb 29 2024, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Feb 29 2024, 06:11 PM)
Hmm... the request now become strange, maybe can do a bit of homework first regarding FiT.
Of course it is welcome to discuss the pro and cons, but do discuss on technical points not like, picture, then video, then description/contract/bill proof. Most of this can be google from the internet and is already available.

I myself is also not a 100% believer of Solar at least not for my current electric usage level. But don't la until need others to spoon feed information. Cheers mate...
Lets discuss more on the technical part of its benefits and potential risk...

Previous post about solar installer is a very good point about the risk.
Some also mention about animal/pest disturbance which I think is also valid.

For some country that has hail, it is also a problem.
Previous PV panel have temperature issue as well where efficiency drop greatly on hot weather... but I guess it is no longer a big issue now.

Let's discuss and look into more of this problems or benefits. flex.gif
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That mastika is tnb app mer? I only want to know about tnb 1 since belongs to gomen,

If private company no need because anytime can chap lap aka gulung tikar. No point to know.

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post Feb 29 2024, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Feb 29 2024, 06:26 PM)
Bye, you are wasting my time & will joined the league of legend rclxs0.gif
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You cannot comprehend then dun say waste time. I ask you to scan how much power generated solely using your solar and how much can be stored in the batteries. If there is no way you can ascertain this, then just keep your gullibility would do. Good luck
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post Feb 29 2024, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Feb 29 2024, 06:34 PM)
Honestly, why mention battery in the first place? The nem system no batteries la.  To be honest, I have got data of fit users but I don’t think I would like to share here coz you are not planning to understand or learn.  Kinda trolling most of the time.
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If no battery then at night u use tnb electric?

Sendiri cannot comprehend and show no credible data perhaps its not my trolling but you gullibility?

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