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post Aug 25 2023, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 25 2023, 04:18 PM)
Assuming your cables/hoses and wiring are long enough. If you are lucky, you get enough slack. If not, that relatively cheap upgrade ends up costing you a lot more. I'm looking at you, Kawa z900.

I have 1" risers on my dominar, makes hell a lot of difference. I also have put on a 2.5" headlamp/binacle riser as well...much better lighting throw/distance and also raised the windshield without having putting a taller windshield or a extender.

As for the brakes. I have no problem with even the old style nissin axial brakes on the base z900 (the SE get brembo radial brakes). Plenty of stopping power for the street.
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The newer z900 might have a problem with riser because tft screen over the handlebar but the old one with lcd should be fine I guess? Similar dashboard with latest z250
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post Aug 25 2023, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Aug 25 2023, 05:14 PM)
The newer z900 might have a problem with riser because tft screen over the handlebar but the old one with lcd should be fine I guess? Similar dashboard with latest z250
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There are other options..like changing to a high rise handlebar. But for the z900, the cables/hoses are too short.

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post Aug 25 2023, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Aug 25 2023, 05:14 PM)
The newer z900 might have a problem with riser because tft screen over the handlebar but the old one with lcd should be fine I guess? Similar dashboard with latest z250
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naah...previous z900 also has the dash over thee handlebar.

but u can find videeos of people installing the risers on youtube.
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post Aug 25 2023, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Aug 24 2023, 10:37 PM)
just ditch the qjmotor tbh, finding secondhand z900 is the best choice with your budget currently

dont fall for the brembo sweets they put on the qjmotor, nissin brake is just as good for our road  laugh.gif

also the srk600rc is pretty disappointing for a sportbike, too heavy at 225kg and not even 100hp
they just slap the same engine from srk600 and put on a different coverset
I found that adding handlebar riser for sporty-naked bike like z250, gsx-s750 can improve the riding position to be more upright
Doesn't even need much to add, just about 1 inch of height and it feels like a different bike
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I see handlebar risers are a super common accessory installed for Cb650r owners but might need to get creative on the cable routing.

QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Aug 25 2023, 11:35 AM)
how often you need to refuel?
mine with a 17l tank is about every 3 days
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I refuel usually once a week, but my daily commute is only 20km per day excluding my trip for lunch which varies

QUOTE(xnobys @ Aug 25 2023, 03:38 PM)
Correction: 12l  tongue.gif

This is the major drawback for Katana.
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The max I've fueled up is 11.2L, the bike got a fuel gauge, distance to empty and 2 levels of low fuel warning laugh.gif

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Aug 25 2023, 03:52 PM)
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like this, long distance riding on this bike susah lah
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Long distance also sure will stop and have a break ma, just refuel at everytime you take a break lor laugh.gif

QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 25 2023, 04:25 PM)
Hell I dont think 13L is even enough for my single cyc 373cc bike....how the hell did Suzuki think is that enough for a litre bike?
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How many km you get from it?

QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 25 2023, 04:31 PM)
Some liter bikes only get 200km per tank even with 17L capacity because it will light up at 14L with 3L reserve, while some easily 300km. Not sure how's the Katana with that tank size.
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200km for 17L, must be riding pretty hardcore laugh.gif

I get around 170km per tank for normal commute riding.

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post Aug 25 2023, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(dawho @ Aug 25 2023, 04:37 PM)
z800 got abs model laaa...just need to find one
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If I'm not wrong Only the last batch of z800 have abs.

Z800 is heavy, 230kg++ and it's top heavy. Difficult to ride as a street bike.


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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Aug 25 2023, 11:05 PM)
If I'm not wrong Only the last batch of z800 have abs.

Z800 is heavy, 230kg++  and it's top heavy.  Difficult to ride as a street bike.
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Damn didn't know it's 230+kg, damn heavy sial
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post Aug 26 2023, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 25 2023, 10:35 PM)
Long distance also sure will stop and have a break ma, just refuel at everytime you take a break lor laugh.gif
How many km you get from it?

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On my dominar, the low fuel light comes on early with about 2.5-3L of fuel remaining, so for my usual fill up is 20rm or about 9.6L (published tank size is 13L)

At speed about 160-170km@10L (130-140kmh cruising with some "Italian tune up" bursts up to 160) highway
Taken at a more pedestrian pace, 220km@10L

Highway at speed is a bit annoying though. I can't make it back to Ipoh from KL without the fuel light flashing after tapah. I can certainly do a 2 hour ride without stopping if not for the range anxiety once the fuel warning lights up.

Now I just do 110-120 just to make it back without stopping for fuel. Factor in time spent fueling up, there is no time saving by going faster.

That said, I was hoping the Dominar was a bit more frugal on fuel though, given it's a single cyc.

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post Aug 26 2023, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 25 2023, 04:25 PM)
Hell I dont think 13L is even enough for my single cyc 373cc bike....how the hell did Suzuki think is that enough for a litre bike?
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Because D400 has 13.5l but 3.5l is reserve. So in actual we have 10l only hahahaha

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post Aug 26 2023, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 25 2023, 10:35 PM)
I see handlebar risers are a super common accessory installed for Cb650r owners but might need to get creative on the cable routing.
I refuel usually once a week, but my daily commute is only 20km per day excluding my trip for lunch which varies
The max I've fueled up is 11.2L, the bike got a fuel gauge, distance to empty and 2 levels of low fuel warning laugh.gif

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What app is that
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post Aug 26 2023, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 25 2023, 10:35 PM)
200km for 17L, must be riding pretty hardcore laugh.gif
I get around 170km per tank for normal commute riding.
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Thanks... hardcore or not, it's always the same, so might as well
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 25 2023, 10:35 PM)
200km for 17L, must be riding pretty hardcore laugh.gif
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errr...not standard meh?

i get around that on mix riding... if tamer riding mebbe can get 230km before it blinks
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 26 2023, 08:37 AM)
On my dominar, the low fuel light comes on early with about 2.5-3L of fuel remaining, so for my usual fill up is 20rm or about 9.6L (published tank size is 13L)

At speed about 160-170km@10L (130-140kmh cruising with some "Italian tune up" bursts up to 160) highway
Taken at a more pedestrian pace, 220km@10L

Highway at speed is a bit annoying though. I can't make it back to Ipoh from KL without the fuel light flashing after tapah. I can certainly do a 2 hour ride without stopping if not for the range anxiety once the fuel warning lights up.

Now I just do 110-120 just to make it back without stopping for fuel. Factor in time spent fueling up, there is no time saving by going faster.

That said, I was hoping the Dominar was a bit more frugal on fuel though, given it's a single cyc.
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Surprised it's that bad, what you're saying is that it's around 16-17km/l if you're doing high speed cruising and 22km/l when riding conservatively. My Katana I get around 15-16km/l when ridden harder and 17-18km/l when riding conservatively. Considering I have 3 extra cylinders and more than double the cc, the dominar fc is kinda bad. I think the cb500x trumps it?

QUOTE(Patent @ Aug 26 2023, 03:29 PM)
What app is that
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Fuelio

QUOTE(mADmAN @ Aug 27 2023, 04:24 PM)
errr...not standard meh?

i get around that on mix riding... if tamer riding mebbe can get 230km before it blinks
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When blinks mean refuel how many liters? I was under the impression 230km and refuel 17L which gives a fuel efficiency of 13.3km/l which is pretty horrible laugh.gif

Anyway, lari topic damn kao from the main topic already hahaha
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post Oct 2 2023, 02:02 AM

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140km a day, I suggest Z650, best value bike out there. Work hours usually very jam, a heavy/big bike is hard to cilok and dangerous.

A Z650 is the size of a 250 with the power of 650. Comfortable sitting position, low seat height for easy stop-n-go situation in peak hours, can even go touring on it comfortably.

I personally think Z650 is underrated as on paper it has nothing impressive, but you get good predictable power throughout all RPM. 0 to 100 in 4 seconds, and if you want to ride to work on highway comfortably at 150km/h it's not a problem. ZX25R and 250cc can go 150 also but the difference is they have no pull at those speeds and you need to wait. A Z650 still pulls good at 150 up to 180.

I recommend Kawa instead of chinese bikes cos they have better 2nd hand value, and easier to find accessories. Chinese bikes on spec is good, price also good, but very hard to sell later on, and honestly speaking, chinese bike no matter what spec brembo and 4 cylinder, people also don't respect. I know we shouldn't judge, I'm just saying this is the reality, they are pretty uncool. If you are happy with it, don't care what others think.

Please update us what u got, either way the best bike is the bike u buy.

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post Dec 6 2023, 02:17 PM

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Zx25R owner here. if you are going to use it as a daily driver at a distance of 140km++ then you are better off with a bike that has a upright riding position. i use mine as a daily driver at distance of 23km++ one way and all i can say is that riding to and from work is fun. I am going to test it for long distance run this Dec 18 to Perlis and will update here later. Oh yeah almost forgot to mention. Fuel Economy is based on how much you speed on the bike.
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at 140km daily if you still want your back then get a proper upright sitting bike
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post Dec 6 2023, 02:36 PM

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Actually it is not the back that is the issue on sports bikes. I own a Benelli Leoncino 250 and from a Naked to a sports bike riding position of course different. On the naked my lower back hurts but on the ZX25R my shoulders and wrist hurt back is totally fine.

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