There are 2 types of guru.

One tells the buyer all the risks and bad news but got low or bad reviews and another BS the buyers all day like a car salesman but receives good praise and reviews. Buyers typically don't know anything, especially first-timers. They trusted these people for advice and got the wrong ones instead.

When the buyers panic, they turned to the conservative guru for advice and only to be told this...

"See, I told u so last time and got a bad review. Now, u ask the other fella for help la. Hahaha."

Overcrowded is inhumane.

Now is overcrowding which pose danger to the people staying inside. What it has to do with Madani?

All house or building plan need approval from Bomba and all relevant departments, right? So far it was not enforced to ensure safety like house renovation.

its partition board, alot of owners can argue its temporary structure, bomba have no rights in interfering with temporary structure in the unit itself... i can partition up a big ass glass door and wall in my own unit and which act saying that I cant do so in my own unit? i think that will be argument

Let’s look at our neighbors down south.
They have a rule of how many number of people can stay in several size of house.
There is no laws saying that you cannot partition like Japanese cyber cafe but only yourself live in it.

The problems is overcrowding.
Government should clearly define what’s the limit threshold for each size.

Eg. Like 6 pax max for units between 900-1200sqft

One can argue but unlikely to win in court.

i heard previously a few cases they won using this reason, not sure how true is it... especially the 'you shall not be name' gang...

Because it's never been enforced so often or reported as often until recently. Plenty of times "shoebox rooms" only become a problem if it's reported, or a tragedy occurs like a fire: https://www.malaysiapropertynews.com/2012/1...kajang-too.html

With the new government pledging to protect the rakyat more, citizens and enforcement both have a lot more boldness to actually take action.

People are also pushing for more laws to protect tenant interests: https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ords-govt-told/

This will raise many problems esp in low cost housing where 1 family can have like 8 to 10 people cramming in a 650 sq ft apartment due to poverty

I empathise with those ppl and hope they are not wrongly targeted. The problem is the popular co-living packagers who think they can do whatever they want without accountability.

Berjaya already managed to get approval to build a low(ish) cost 900sqft, 5 bed 4 bath property

Just curious

Scenario 1
A 1000 sqft with originally 3 rooms partitioned into 5 rooms. Each room occupied by 1 tenant.
Total tenants in the unit = 5

Scenario 2
Same 1000 sqft without extra partition but each room occupied by 2 person
Total tenant in the unit = 6

So since our law mentions only overcrowding instead of partition, isn't it scenario 2 will be more illegal compare to scenario 1?

No, with partition makes it look cramped than without

That's the problem with our law, "look more cramped" is very subjective, that gives room for ppl to challenge the enforcement

This post has been edited by hcstwb: Aug 10 2023, 03:43 PM

likely because of its inflexibility to move around with partition

its more on the number of persons in the unit rather than the partition issue, partition is bomba punya issue already...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...mibextid=5eVWNK

Both are illegal, so no point to compare which scenario is more illegal.

Both are legal

Scenario 1 is bomba concern. If partition does not obstruct escape path in the case of a fire, no issue.
But dun quote me. Ask bomba, I think2 only.

Scenario 2 is my scenario - 900 ft apartment, me n wifey in masterbedroom, two sons share room 1, two dotters share room 2.
If illegal I sleep on staircase. M40 not much choice.
The overcrowding clause is based on cubic feet, not sqft.