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TSSi kutu rayau
post Sep 5 2023, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(alex000999000 @ Sep 5 2023, 02:49 AM)
yup no crash bar on heavy bike also one serious issue, during class from the drop that day my leg still swollen and bruise till today still feel pain when walking
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Oh so you also taking B full license? Did your teacher ask you to finish the emergency brake challenge in 5 secs?

Now I'm very confusing, my teacher said must do it in 5 secs or I'll fail. But other teacher said no such thing. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

The best I can do is 7 secs. Any faster I can feel the bike out of my control. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Sep 6 2023, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Sep 5 2023, 08:00 PM)
Oh so you also taking B full license? Did your teacher ask you to finish the emergency brake challenge in 5 secs?

Now I'm very confusing, my teacher said must do it in 5 secs or I'll fail. But other teacher said no such thing.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

The best I can do is 7 secs. Any faster I can feel the bike out of my control.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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The only part of the test that requires timing is titi only. At least during my time.

For emergency brake, you need to start braking after you pass the first line and the bike must stop before the second line. I think...
TSSi kutu rayau
post Sep 6 2023, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(xnobys @ Sep 6 2023, 11:09 AM)
The only part of the test that requires timing is titi only. At least during my time.

For emergency brake, you need to start braking after you pass the first line and the bike must stop before the second line. I think...
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That's what I do, but my teacher say from the moment my bike start moving until it stop cannot exceed 5 secs. My teacher also confused with a lot of rules because not teaching B full for a long time and the bike keeps breaking down. sweat.gif

My test will be in 2 more weeks. It makes me worry...... sad.gif
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post Sep 6 2023, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Sep 6 2023, 11:35 AM)
That's what I do, but my teacher say from the moment my bike start moving until it stop cannot exceed 5 secs. My teacher also confused with a lot of rules because not teaching B full for a long time and the bike keeps breaking down. sweat.gif

My test will be in 2 more weeks. It makes me worry...... sad.gif
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its ok, not everyone will pass on the first try. if fail then just retake. no issue
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post Sep 6 2023, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Sep 6 2023, 11:35 AM)
That's what I do, but my teacher say from the moment my bike start moving until it stop cannot exceed 5 secs. My teacher also confused with a lot of rules because not teaching B full for a long time and the bike keeps breaking down. sweat.gif

My test will be in 2 more weeks. It makes me worry...... sad.gif
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my teacher only said one thing... you must show that the bike is accelerating, and then brake hard, thats it
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post Sep 6 2023, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 6 2023, 03:38 PM)
my teacher only said one thing... you must show that the bike is accelerating, and then brake hard, thats it
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mine told me must masuk second gear before breaking.
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post Sep 6 2023, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 6 2023, 03:38 PM)
my teacher only said one thing... you must show that the bike is accelerating, and then brake hard, thats it
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Jamm brake until tyre screeching dy... sweat.gif
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post Sep 6 2023, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Sep 6 2023, 11:35 AM)
That's what I do, but my teacher say from the moment my bike start moving until it stop cannot exceed 5 secs. My teacher also confused with a lot of rules because not teaching B full for a long time and the bike keeps breaking down. sweat.gif

My test will be in 2 more weeks. It makes me worry...... sad.gif
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The more you worry, the higher likelihood you would fail. Just take it easy. Plenty of people pass on the first try.

As for the e brake test. You just have to accelerate quickly to 50 and brake hard. The big bike will get up to speed really quickly. If the bike has ABS, just let the bike handle the lockup.. I don't see why you would need more than 5secs.
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post Sep 6 2023, 05:10 PM

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here's the conversation I had with a bike instructor

big bikes emergency brake is not like kapcai, no time limit, as long as you do it within the two lines

learn to use the front brake for hard braking, the rear brake don't need to cause the tyre to lock up and drag

big bike if use rear brake to lock the rear tyre, can cause it to swerve sideways and be even more dangerous

legs need to be ready to steady the bike as it approach to a full stop during the emergency ordeal, not to layan rear brake pedal


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post Sep 6 2023, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 6 2023, 07:10 PM)
here's the conversation I had with a bike instructor

big bikes emergency brake is not like kapcai, no time limit, as long as you do it within the two lines

learn to use the front brake for hard braking, the rear brake don't need to cause the tyre to lock up and drag

big bike if use rear brake to lock the rear tyre, can cause it to swerve sideways and be even more dangerous

legs need to be ready to steady the bike as it approach to a full stop during the emergency ordeal, not to layan rear brake pedal
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To add, only left leg can be put down after braking. Tbh that's what a rider should do when stopping at junction or traffic light but i normally don't see them do it. Usually they just put their right foot down and the left leg on the gear shifter.
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post Sep 6 2023, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Sep 5 2023, 08:00 PM)
Oh so you also taking B full license? Did your teacher ask you to finish the emergency brake challenge in 5 secs?

Now I'm very confusing, my teacher said must do it in 5 secs or I'll fail. But other teacher said no such thing.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

The best I can do is 7 secs. Any faster I can feel the bike out of my control.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Due to my injury and bad school, i downgrade to b2 lesen L now, will redo as B full after i move back to KL, for the B full emergency brake i hear in class is "tidak lebih 6 saat" , which they say 6sc is ok, for kapzaii B2 brake is "tidak lebih 7 saat" i see other guys in class do ok, you no need worry too much also
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post Sep 7 2023, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(genesiscopy @ Sep 6 2023, 07:30 PM)
To add, only left leg can be put down after braking. Tbh that's what a rider should do when stopping at junction or traffic light but i normally don't see them do it. Usually they just put their right foot down and the left leg on the gear shifter.
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That's a good practice and with gear in watching your back in case any shit comes up from behind, it's not a rule afaik
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post Sep 7 2023, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(alex000999000 @ Sep 6 2023, 09:27 PM)
Due to my injury and bad school, i downgrade to b2 lesen L now, will redo as B full after i move back to KL, for the B full emergency brake i hear in class is "tidak lebih 6 saat" , which they say 6sc is ok, for kapzaii B2 brake is "tidak lebih 7 saat" i see other guys in class do ok, you no need worry too much also
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you had no riding experience, and went straight to B full?
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post Sep 7 2023, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(genesiscopy @ Sep 6 2023, 07:30 PM)
To add, only left leg can be put down after braking. Tbh that's what a rider should do when stopping at junction or traffic light but i normally don't see them do it. Usually they just put their right foot down and the left leg on the gear shifter.
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exactly
many do it the wrong way

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post Sep 7 2023, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 7 2023, 08:40 AM)
That's a good practice and with gear in watching your back in case any shit comes up from behind, it's not a rule afaik
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I will always keep the bike in first gear if I'm the only one at the stopped junction. and will constantly look at the rear view mirrors. Until there are cars stopped behind me.


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post Sep 7 2023, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 7 2023, 08:41 AM)
you had no riding experience, and went straight to B full?
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dont most do this?i did the same, still have never riden a scooter or kapcai
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post Sep 7 2023, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 7 2023, 08:41 AM)
you had no riding experience, and went straight to B full?
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Nothing wrong with that, just teacher need to teach details properly.

Like me even I ride kapcai for 20 years first time ride big bike the teacher didn't say release the clutch slowly I sekali release the bike drop lo.... sweat.gif
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post Sep 7 2023, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 7 2023, 10:54 AM)
I will always keep the bike in first gear if I'm the only one at the stopped junction.  and will constantly look at the rear view mirrors.  Until there are cars stopped behind me.
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same

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 7 2023, 11:07 AM)
dont most do this?i did the same, still have never riden a scooter or kapcai
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not me, I used clutch bike for many years

QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Sep 7 2023, 11:56 AM)
Nothing wrong with that, just teacher need to teach details properly.

Like me even I ride kapcai for 20 years first time ride big bike the teacher didn't say release the clutch slowly I sekali release the bike drop lo.... sweat.gif
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hehe
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post Sep 7 2023, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Sep 7 2023, 11:56 AM)
Nothing wrong with that, just teacher need to teach details properly.

Like me even I ride kapcai for 20 years first time ride big bike the teacher didn't say release the clutch slowly I sekali release the bike drop lo.... sweat.gif
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Same thing happened to me, my bike instructor said : "ni madam klut kereta..". laugh.gif

lots of my epic fail moments happened on the 1st session of KPP03.
My left arm fingers numb after 1hr of riding. It was so tense..

My big bike riding career started with disaster.. XD.

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post Sep 7 2023, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 7 2023, 12:29 PM)
My big bike riding career started with disaster.. XD.
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that's ok, just don't end with one

hope to see you guys on the road someday

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