Because its mighty annoying when we rightly should be getting impartial commentary. Look at what James saying. He has reservations about Kimi winning this title mainly because of his qualifying performance in Monaco and a slow restart behind a safety car? Ludicrous! With Murray Walker, and maybe even Martin Brundle, we always got enthusiasm for every driver despite it being a known fact they have a soft spot for Brits. Just go watch the Murray's interview on BBC about the race. You can even say the same thing for Stephen Slater. James Allen however, has always been a charmless idiot who goes out of his way to praise Hamilton (and before this, Button) at every single opportunity. His wild euphoric scream when Button won last year has got to take the cake for a supremely amateurish broadcasting. That scream belonged in an English pub, not on worldwide TV.

This post has been edited by BurgaFlippinMan: Oct 22 2007, 04:46 PM

Is it Ferrari's fault that BMW and Williams ran on cooler fuel?
Do you wants to see Lewis Hamilton wins his championship in court?

If you do, you're the next Ron Dennis Jr.

I'm sure even hamilton doesn't wants the title anymore. There's no point for him to win it that way.
Do you think McLaren will be celebrating if Lewis wins it that way? I don't

The only person who will be happy about it is Ron Dennis.

Even then, the team should be punished and not the drivers. Strip the team off the points but the drivers? Doubt it'll ever happen. If it does, I'll boycott F1.

bah .... this year sux, i don care who win the title anymore.

fast forward me to march 2008 pls !

when are you talking about?

if bmw and williams drivers are punished, then it would to unfair not to dock points from hamilton and alonso regarding the "spy" case...
if so, it would be better to just dock points from the team... not the drivers...
i read that the advantage gained by using cooled fuel was not much... only 1 second for the whole race... so what they gonna do? add one second to their finish time?
this is ridiculous... kimi won it fair and square and he has the most wins in the season

His point is Ferrari won the Constructors off the track as well. Ferrari doesn't seem too sad about it.
Lewis would obviously preferred to win it on the track. But to say noone would be happy is ridiculous. If Williams and BMW ran an illegal car then how can u argue otherwise. But if they are not then fair play to them.

More like ONE second per lap that is until fuel temperature is within normal range.

Even FIA themselves has double standard when it comes to tiny little matter like this. This isnt about McLaren or Ferrari b****ing. This is about being fair.

First of all, the difference of reading between FOM and self-appoint contractor for the ambient temp. Secondly, the difference is only 2-3 degree. I dont know anything about fuel tech but if Mike Gascyone said they can gain anything from 5-10hp, easy just prove it. If it bring so much improvement, heck I would even lower it by 10c and gain 50hp. Lastly, the coincidence that it only happen to the 3 guys between Alonso and Hamilton is truly strange. FIA does scrutine check before and after the race. So how was it possible for a car that pass the scrutine check ok and then at the first stop being 2-3c cooler in temp.


This post has been edited by kapitan: Oct 22 2007, 05:20 PM

like the post before ur post

even if mclaren werent disqualified, it reads Ferrari - 204, McLaren - 203

u do d maths

that is what I am thinking as well.. damn bloody strange just happen the 3 cars in the middle have the problem.. the McLaren no problem on that?? what about Ferarri? Easier to get both the Ferarri out then the title immediately go to Alonso.. isn't it?

and why this issue only raise in this race? who raise the issue? do FIA have to check all the team for the entire year about this issue..

If McLaren the one who raise the issue.. why so sacarstically raise it at this moment?

they got nothing to lose, coz they already lost

so why not ? But i hope kimi will still be the champ. He truly deserves it

FIA love to do it like strip off the Point of the team.. fine the team $$ instead of driver's point.. want to do it.. so.. do it to the team of BMW n William.. make the driver point stand..

Lewis have gain this few times this year.. Mclaren point strip off.. he escape.. he alone using 2 set of wet is Practise 1.. Team get fine $$.. not him.. .. .. .. ..

I don't think Williams and BMW will be punished tbh

I can see Williams and BMW having points deducted at most but if the title ever swings McLaren's way, Ferrari can easily appeal it back into their favour citing Schumacher and Coulthard.

For the record: I can understand why McLaren are so pissed. I'd be pissed if I lost because other teams cheated. But then again, judging by how previous cases have been handled, it was the team's fault and not the drivers.

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Oct 22 2007, 05:39 PM

i understand how you feel, but : ITV is NOT the official broadcaster of F1. FOM is. So ITV caters for the British public as its main target audience, not for worldwide audience. You must understand this.

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Added on October 22, 2007, 5:44 pmThats i said in previous posts that Ferrari fan should be so paranoid of Kimi losing his WDC title.

This post has been edited by evoHahn: Oct 22 2007, 05:44 PM

why didnt have any quote on what Montoya saying about the Result..?

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Added on October 22, 2007, 6:10 pmDamon Hill now are more paranoid Lewis lost his title..



This post has been edited by BuFung: Oct 22 2007, 06:10 PM

McLaren is a sore loser...just like Ron Dennis

Anyone has the multi function remote in the movie 'Click'?

But if Damon wants fairness based on past decisions, then Kimi would still be WDC. Unless fairness in his dictionary means that Lewis has to be King.

*I am a Kimi fan, so yes, I am a bigot but I do tolerate reasonable arguments.

*correct typo

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Oct 22 2007, 06:29 PM

It's true that the constructors title wasn't won in the best way, but that doesn't meant McLaren should win the driver's title in the same manner.

From Lewis point of view, he's not going for just another title win, it would have been his first title win. If he wins it this way, it will forever be remembered as the win he gets after his team got someone else disqualified. This is because the FIA had already initially cleared both teams of any wrongdoings, so if they changed it and penalize them, it would be Ron Dennis who initiate it.

There's a difference between winning it after FIA disqualified both team, and winning it after Ron Dennis appeal to have both team penalize when the FIA had already cleared them of any wrongdoings.

The first one is fine but the second one isn't good at all. I don't see any cause to celebrate for the second scenario.