Can someone just take Hamilton out? I cannot listen to this ITV crap.

Yes Kimi for the lead. Please God, you have screwed him out of the world title twice. Please be nice to him.

Thank You Lord. Thank you for giving Kimi what he rightfully deserves. Time for siggy change

Hamilton clapped for Kimi? Everyone would have done. Even Nando What's so different?

so did I. I have nothing against Hamilton but the way they worship him in their website and stuff is pathetic. Calling him a legend before he has won anything is just shit. This could have been a one-off for f*** sake. In that case, Kimi is God for having two championship taken away from him due to reliability but their legend dropped his head when Kimi didn't lose his.

And as for the F1 cover, do you really believe it? I mean he could have been champion at McLaren were it not for his last lap debacle.

I am a fan of his. Nothing wrong in that but the whole British press were too carried away with Lewis. I may be naive but I believe they didn't do the same with Kimi.

u forgot..WDC -1

That was ONE publication from an article written by ONE person. With Hamilton-mania, a lot more than ONE. I understand your liking for sources. I appreciate that as well to end all arguments on whether my statements can be verified or not but I believe that you have read pro-Hamilton articles enough this season for me not to post links. But if you insist, give me time.

Now if you don't mind, mind giving me source for pro-Kimi madness apart from that one article? Because that cover to me is just to say that Kimi will become world champion because Ferrari have an eye on him and not because he's a legend without winning a GP as said by Mark Hughes.

Yeap. Was nice to see Mika there. But would have liked him rooting for Kimi But contractual obligations with Benz must be tough.

I have not read those mags at all. Most of the time, it's been Wiki, the F1 websites and forums. I get my information from those places.

I knew you were going to say that but the Brits, knowingly that their stories/broadcast will be to a GLOBAL audience would have to be more careful with their stories and not just type what they like.

Yeah, evoHahn, everyone is entitled to their opinions but the British twist and turn theirs every 5 seconds. When Senna or Schumacher do something, it's called gamesmanship or "bending the rules" while when Hamilton does it, the Brits justify it by saying "nice guys finish last" @ "Senna and Schumacher did or would have done the same" @ " he tricked himself an advantage -direct quote from Mark Hughes F1ITV."

Secondly, the hero worship, I still find pathetic. When I read Mark Hughes' article (the one he wrote before the Brazilian GP weekend), he wrote "Forget it, he's already a legend" made me vomit bile. Yet to win anything, ONE GOOD season and he's already a legend. Kononnya.

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Added on October 22, 2007, 2:08 pmNot to mention, when Ferrari go to FIA, we are sore-losers or being FIA's justice league whereas when McLaren do the same, they are "SEARCHING JUSTICE." I am sick of this to be honest.

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Oct 22 2007, 02:08 PM

I still found Michael's punishment at the Monaco Grand Prix to be bloody harsh. I think it was an innocent mistake. We have seen cars parked there over the years, haven't we? Just because it's Michael, the pre-judgment sets in. I still feel hard done by that decision. I too don't deny we have gotten some, if not many OUR way but I won't complain but just because we have had decisions going our way in the past doesn't mean you can even things out against us for the sake of maintaining "poetic justice."

I too doubt you can disagree that Lewis has gotten some decisions his way. Say what you want about Pit-gate but Lewis should have gotten his punishment by the McLaren team. How was another matter but so much for team-equality if you ask me. Alonso gets a place demotion whereas Lewis gets a slap on the wrist and that's the end of story for him? Then as for the Brazilian qualifying session, it'd be interesting to see what would happen if it were another driver? 5 place drop?

Every drivers have slip ups during the season. Both Kimi and Lewis had two DNFs and both had their lapses of concentration. Kimi had his in Bahrain and Monaco. Just so happen that Lewis had his late on in the season and Allen and Brundle said that Lewis was hard done by. Sad case. I held their opinion/commentary in high regard. Should have known better when they were over the moon when a Brit was on the podium in a bloody hopeless Honda.

theme songs for drivers

Kimi-shut up and drive
Alonso -me against the world
Lewis -he's got the whole world in his hands

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Added on October 22, 2007, 2:48 pmNo, if the penalties didn't stand, McLaren would have had 218 points. StarSports confirmed yesterday.

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Oct 22 2007, 02:48 PM

1) My point was that that incident was the point at which the FIA have decided that they may have screwed some decisions in our favor and it was time to start screwing us instead to show that they aren't Ferrari-bias. As I have said, no need pointing decisions favoring us, I acknowledge it, most of it at least.

2) Alonso interfered with Hamilton's qualifying and he got his FIA penalty whereas Lewis interfered with Kimi's (which he admitted and apologized to Kimi) and he got away scott-free.

3) And regarding pit-gate, wasn't it Lewis who went against team orders? Alonso got his punishment, albeit from the FIA, what did Hamilton get? A big fat championship lead? I still don't buy the team equality that Dennis has been promoting for ages.

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Added on October 22, 2007, 3:20 pmRaikkonen was being sarcastic. he's a Kimi fan for God's sake. Besides, if he were for Kimi, he would have been to the wrong garage. Mika still looks the same though. Nice to see him back.

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Oct 22 2007, 03:22 PM

Even then, the team should be punished and not the drivers. Strip the team off the points but the drivers? Doubt it'll ever happen. If it does, I'll boycott F1.

More like ONE second per lap that is until fuel temperature is within normal range.

I can see Williams and BMW having points deducted at most but if the title ever swings McLaren's way, Ferrari can easily appeal it back into their favour citing Schumacher and Coulthard.

For the record: I can understand why McLaren are so pissed. I'd be pissed if I lost because other teams cheated. But then again, judging by how previous cases have been handled, it was the team's fault and not the drivers.

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Oct 22 2007, 05:39 PM

But if Damon wants fairness based on past decisions, then Kimi would still be WDC. Unless fairness in his dictionary means that Lewis has to be King.

*I am a Kimi fan, so yes, I am a bigot but I do tolerate reasonable arguments.

*correct typo

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Oct 22 2007, 06:29 PM

And if the team did something illegal, should the drivers be punished? Because from your reasoning, Hamilton wouldn't even be in contention by now.