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 Honeywell PTM 7950 thermal pad, does it work?

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post Apr 15 2024, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Jun 20 2023, 12:29 PM)
Recently youtube recommended this video, maybe google knows i am looking at computer things  sweat.gif  doh.gif



does this thing work? if anyone is using what is your experience?
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/for-hone...9766156590.html?

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/for-hone....76275cacfRjFCV

found 2 lazmall, which should be the real thing? can't find any local seller though, not sure if there is any official distributor in malaysia.
would be nice to replace the traditional paste i guess?
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Just to be clear the 7950 pad is not the same as the normal thermal pads for ram chips or mosfets on video cards which are thicker about 2mm. These thicker pads are reusable if you're really careful, the 7950 is not.

Generally pastes give better performance compared to pads.
But there is a very good use case for pads - bare die GPU chips and laptops/notebooks cpu/gpu because the temps on these get too high for pastes and causes excessive pump out. And the high power density of current cpus/gpus is another contributor to pump out. So instead of all the headaches of re-pasting laptop cpu/gpu, slap on a pad like 7950 and you might never need to replace it in future. You can also use 7950 on desktop cpus if you're having problems with pump out but I prefer to get a bigger/better heatsink or dial down power/voltage limits on current intel cpus.

Maxtor xtp-001 might be an acceptable alternative, I'm looking for 7950 myself.


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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Jan 7 2024, 12:29 PM)
the problem with thermal grizzly kryonaut is the pump out that happens once it goes over 80c, so on a hot machine it will only last a few months or a year
the ptm wont pump out, at all, so it'll last for years

I'll say go for PTM, even the newer Thinkpads come with it, like P14s G4 has it
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Many people don't know that TG kyronaut is not meant to normal PCs. Its meant for sub-zero cooling builds just for overclocking records where long term pump out is not going to be a problem.
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Thermalright Heilos is said to be a PTM7950 OEM

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post Jun 20 2024, 02:59 PM

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If I want to do some dust cleaning, can I just remove and then reattach? Cuz with thermal paste, we always clean up the old paste and reapply new one
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post Jun 22 2024, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Apr 16 2024, 01:02 PM)
Thermalright Heilos is said to be a PTM7950 OEM
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Bought and tested, there is clear difference, although not up to my expectation. Maybe like 4-5c reduction on hotspot temp, 3c on core temp.

I butchered the installation, had a hard time trying to separate the plastic from the silicon layer and there was parts where I teared the silicon. Decided to just install it to see how it performs, it seems that it works quite alright.
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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jun 22 2024, 08:43 PM)
Bought and tested, there is clear difference, although not up to my expectation. Maybe like 4-5c reduction on hotspot temp, 3c on core temp.

I butchered the installation, had a hard time trying to separate the plastic from the silicon layer and there was parts where I teared the silicon. Decided to just install it to see how it performs, it seems that it works quite alright.
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Faster heat transfer doesn't mean you can get loads of improvements. Still depends on the cooler.
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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jun 22 2024, 08:43 PM)
Bought and tested, there is clear difference, although not up to my expectation. Maybe like 4-5c reduction on hotspot temp, 3c on core temp.

I butchered the installation, had a hard time trying to separate the plastic from the silicon layer and there was parts where I teared the silicon. Decided to just install it to see how it performs, it seems that it works quite alright.
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No instruction to keep in the fridge/freezer for easier application?
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post Jun 22 2024, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Apr 16 2024, 01:02 PM)
Thermalright Heilos is said to be a PTM7950 OEM
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Can't open the link not sure why.

Anyway, i am thinking about the kryosheet as mentioned by bro babylon, it is like a permanent no need to redo since it can't dry up and pump out, but probably can't fill the micro space as well as paste? I like the idea of do it and forget about it, no need to headache.

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QUOTE(pandah @ Jun 22 2024, 10:17 PM)
Can't open the link not sure why.

Anyway, i am thinking about the kryosheet as mentioned by bro babylon, it is like a permanent no need to redo since it can't dry up and pump out, but probably can't fill the micro space as well as paste? I like the idea of do it and forget about it, no need to headache.
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Low power items ok. If you have a current intel i9 , then dont do it. It sucks compare to conventional thermal paste.

For laptops , i get it , because some laptops are hard to dismantle to access the heatsink , might break a clip or 2 at the bottom cover, for each attempt, so you want as less frequent thermal paste repaste as possible.

But for normal desktops users, nah ...

If you are a pc hardware reviewer , then it will serve u well , save u alot of thermal paste when u keep swapping hardware
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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jun 22 2024, 08:43 PM)
Bought and tested, there is clear difference, although not up to my expectation. Maybe like 4-5c reduction on hotspot temp, 3c on core temp.

I butchered the installation, had a hard time trying to separate the plastic from the silicon layer and there was parts where I teared the silicon. Decided to just install it to see how it performs, it seems that it works quite alright.
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You're supposed to throw the pt7950 into your freezer at night. Leave it until tomorrow morning when you wake up, use it and fast. Malaysia weather is not helpful.
I had the same problem with u initially, but the freezer method makes it easier to separate it from the plastic film.
Once u apply and power up the machine. Put load until it hits above 70C. Then you need to torque down the heatsink some more as the pad melts, thts the way to get the pad to fill microscopic gaps
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post Jun 29 2024, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jun 22 2024, 08:58 PM)
No instruction to keep in the fridge/freezer for easier application?
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not much instruction inside the box. already read in forums how putting it in refrigerator will help, but my impatient ass just need to see the improvement after waiting 1 week for shipping.

they have clear plastic and white plastic part. i'd say, release the clear plastic first, things will be much easier.

now after 1 week+ of application, I'm seeing further improvement. The fan RPM down by 100RPM. My GPU much more silent.
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QUOTE(Oblah @ Apr 8 2024, 06:12 PM)
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Bet your laptop runs silent after you clean all that dust laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Sep 5 2024, 05:40 PM)
Bet your laptop runs silent after you clean all that dust laugh.gif
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Yes, it runs much quieter now. In fact my big reductions in CPU and GPU temperatures I feel is more to cleaning out the struggling fans than the actual PTM7950.
Pasting the PTM7950, I tried the freezer method which made it easier to peel off and paste.
But end of the day my go to method to reduce wastage was to use the torn mangled bits and just tampal only.
I then just boot up my laptop for a bit to let it 'melt' into an even layer. Then just open back and readjust the paste.
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I’ve just bought a large 80mm x 160mm strip of PTM7950 and will be applying it to multiple CPUs and GPUs.
Original price is RM84.27 before shipping, but I bought it for RM58.76 after vouchers & coins from Lazada

Link: https://s.lazada.com.my/s.lSPfi

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QUOTE(Oblah @ Sep 6 2024, 10:58 AM)
cleaning out the struggling fans than the actual PTM7950.
Since your laptop is already over five years old, you might also consider replacing the fans.

Look up the fan part number on Taobao, Shopee, or Lazada, and you should be able to find a suitable replacement.
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post Sep 6 2024, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Sep 6 2024, 03:03 PM)
I’ve just bought a large 80mm x 160mm strip of PTM7950 and will be applying it to multiple CPUs and GPUs.
Original price is RM84.27 before shipping, but I bought it for RM58.76 after vouchers & coins from Lazada

Link: https://s.lazada.com.my/s.lSPfi

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Seems like you are the first buyer? Didn't see any reviews for the link. Was the product ok?
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QUOTE(pandah @ Sep 6 2024, 07:30 PM)
Seems like you are the first buyer? Didn't see any reviews for the link. Was the product ok?
Haven't applied it yet
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post Sep 9 2024, 11:31 AM

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Kryonaut vs PTM7950

I didn't clean the fans or heatsinks. I simply removed the Kryonaut with alcohol and then applied the PTM7950.
I cut the PTM7950 to match the CPU and GPU die size before placing it in the freezer & the Kryonaut was freshly applied around two months ago.

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pandah FYI

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post Sep 9 2024, 11:46 AM

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wow max temp 20 degrees difference, seems like a legit product.

Hopefully can maintain for long time.

Kryonaut only 2 months can get to 99 degree, does it pump out? Or the heavy usage makes it dry up?
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QUOTE(pandah @ Sep 9 2024, 11:46 AM)
Kryonaut only 2 months can get to 99 degree, does it pump out? Or the heavy usage makes it dry up?
It's not Kryonaut issue, it's more of my laptop fan issue where when it tries to spin more than 80%, it screeches then stop spinning

I think the fan is failing, need to replace it

I forgot to mention that the "value" temperatures is taken during idle
With the PTM7950, the fans never have to ramp up to more than 80% so my laptop never overheats unlike with Kryonaut

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