Hehehe, ofcourse can.. Bike what most important is not the machine, but the rider... If rider like me on litre bike, n compete with rossi on a 150cc at genting, for sure rossi can tapaw me...

This post has been edited by ikiey: Dec 16 2011, 05:06 PM

Yes Bro, he really should be at yamaha... But, m sure hez very happy there at duc cuz n italian rider riding an italian machine... Sure pride is very high n its a disgrace for ducati if rossi do return to yamaha... Ducatti need to buck up, or else... Heheh

@t600
u pum in ron95 or ron97 for r1?
normally most litre bike use ron97 or can use ron95?

guys ..

anyone here own naza blade 250R?... it looks so cool! .. i am thinking of getting it lah .. but yet to decide between kawasaki 250 .. dont know which one to choose .. ..

any recommendation?

Guys,

thinking to get one SB for my self but still in a mist on what to buy. since this will be my first bike, ( i dont even own a kapcai pun before.. ) im thinking to get one 2nd hand bike.
my constrain here is my budget will be not more den 40k. extra 3-4k tu maybe acceptable.

since that, ive done a few study on what SB that park under my range.

1. R1 (2006 and below)
2. CBR600RR (2007 and below)
3. Kawa zx6r (2007 and below)
4. Kawa er6n@f

Need some advice from all sifus here. consider that im a 185 cm guys and might be use this bike to travel from KL-east coast. but i still have my car for that. if not, maybe as a weekend ride.
please also enlighten me on their maintenance cost.

Thanks in advance..

Bro, blade yesh, it looks alot better n more like superbike than the ninja... But, handling wise ninja wins hands down.. N also it wins in price... But, what it doesnt really fare well is it's resale value.. Really hard to let go.. But, if u r thinking to ride it sampai kaput, n dont wanna let go later, i think its a good buy.. N make sure u live sumwer in klang valley, cuz if it do go kaput, easy to send to SC for repairs.. But, newer generation of the blade is alot more reliable than the previous ones...

But, if u already planning to upgrade in a short while after ur 250cc machine, i strongly recommend u to take 2nd hand 250cc bike, cuz atleast it's depreciation is not so bad compared with brand new bike when u sell ur bike to upgrade..

thanks for the respond bro ... I have no plan how long will I ride this bike but the looks of 250R is so awesome! I dont have money to buy 600cc machine .. LOL .. the only downside is the sound of this bike is like mesin jahit ..

how about maintenance of these 2 bikes? Power? Sound? I really dont know but white Naza 250R is favour me now .. hehe .. ..

Get r1. A litre bike is the best to cruise on highway!

The cheapest 2nd hand CBR 600RR Will be around 40k ++ ? FFFFUUUUUU, I can't afford...

Maybe i'll get the older version, which is CBR 600 F1/F2/F3....

BTW, regarding the Guzzi, I'm happy to say that My father only pay about 30-40 % of the bike price...
Spareparts, he only pay for the ECU, Whilst I pay the rest....

All of these possible due to I dig my savings & profit from my business....
I'm looking forward to pay the rest of the sum to him...

Amongst 250's now, Blade got the best sound note, as if it was imitating a Ducati....

Maintenance, most single & twin 250's are the same....

If u'r interested in 4 cylinder 250's (Most are ZX-2), I strongly advice u against them....
Maintenance is quite a killer & the engine can't withstand high revving eventough it can rev up to 18.5 k rpm....
Parts are also very expensive...

The piston size is smaller than Honda C70.... The valve which is 16 in total, are around the size 10 cent coins....
This year I almost wanna buy this bike, but my mech advise me against them....

He said for inline 4, the minimum 'safe' capacity will be 400cc..

Just my 2 cent advice....

Inline 4 bike indeed produce an ear-gasm sound, but can you hear it with your fullface/open face helmet on (in speed 80++km/h)?

No, because the wind "mute" the engine sound, and only people nearby can heard it once you ride pass them

zx2r is the best (performance) 250cc money can get, even after >20years.
yes reliability is an issue, but same goes to any bike that aged 15-20yrs.

Mesin jahit problem surely can be adjusted... I put on akra slip on, now no more mesin jahit at all... And have cracking noise when downchange n blip throtle and also when half throtles... Hehehe, oweys put a smile in my fullface helmet... Damn, if on 4dapur, sure my smile keluar the fullface already...

I also change the dogbone of my ninja, now rear of the bike is alot higher n the front i uses adjustable clip on handle bar to makes the handle bar more lower, and also drop the triple T clamp on the front fork, so now can get that supersports riding pos a bit with butt and handle grip almost the same level when see from side... But, sure no go like supersports... But handling sure change direction faster now because of the reduces rake angle..

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Added on December 18, 2011, 2:11 pm+1

So true... 1-2-3 gear cannot go near redline, so need to change higher gear early... It sounded high already rite change gear to gear 4 at 15k rpm, but when u consider it can actually rev to 20k rpm, now 15k doesnt sound much really...

N, even LC can tapau at streetlight drag race until speed 60kmh... But the sound really is music...

Maintenance damn expensive, when koyak throtle at 1-2-3 gear, sure valve bengkok, n sure repair cost around 3-4k... N redo again the koyak throtle at early gears after change valve, again masuk workshop change valve again...

Solution...?? Change to titanium valve, but need to source overseas

This post has been edited by ikiey: Dec 18 2011, 02:19 PM

Seriously asking this?? I WONT RECOMMEND ANY OF THE BIKE ABOVE SINCE U NEVER OWN ANY BIKE BEFORE..

*sigh*

I hope you will see my point for not supporting any of ur choices...

What kind of bike u REGULARLY ride for the past 24 months? now if you say u regularly ride someone else supersport/litre bike or even something like ER6.. then I guess it shouldn't be a problem for you..

R1 is a beast.. make a mistake.. It wont hesitate to bite...

CBR600 and ZX6.. now this two is a superb bike for someone who already familiar on what gear to use during corners.. 600's are high revving machine..

ok.. ER6n/f are just nice for a beginner.. BUT only if you have a proper experience handling bikes that are generally heavy.. so my best say is that.. dont chase on the LOOKS and HOW PEOPLE LOOK AT YOU... at the end.. It is you who will be riding and if you fall.. it is you who will endure the pain... and not to forget the waste of money for repairs and recovery...

so save yourself from those unnecessary stuff and get yourself something smaller...

first.. IDENTIFY your preference.. DO u like a SPORTY riding or more like RELAX riding.. if sporty is your choice.. there are lots of bike to start with...

there are:
APRILIA RS250 (2 Stroke) (NOT IN MANUFACTURE [2nd hands only]) (RM15K + -) (3* on looks)
APRILIA RS125 (2 Stroke) (RM20k++) (4* on looks)
KAWASAKI NINJA 150 (KIPS) (2 Stroke) (RM10K + -) (3 * on looks)
KAWASAKI NINJA 250 (4 Stroke) (RM20K ++) (3.5* on looks)
NAZA BLADE (NAKED/FULL FAIRING) (V twin [4 Stroke]) (RM15K-20K + -) (3.5* on looks)
HONDA CBR250r (4 Stroke) (RM20K ++) (3* on looks)

now these bikes are what I can say a proper beginner's bike.. I myself own the 150 Ninja Kips... and it's my first bike too..

So.. ur Budget is around 40k.. well that is a very2 GOOD BUDGET... so now.. choose whether u want a sporty handling or a more Easy handling..

HONDA CBR250r is an easy riding bike.. same goes to the NAKED NAZA BLADE... so from there on.. you may progress to a bigger bike like the ER6/XJ6/MONSTER and so on..

But then.. if you want to have a feel like a racer then.. the rest of the of the bike listed are the way to go.. especially the 250's cos from there you can get yourself ready for a SUPERSPORT like the one u mentioned...

Now.. the most important thing before getting a bike is to get your gears ready too.. Now that you saved 20k from ur budget for bike.. you now may spend for riding gears like a FULL FACE HELMET... Rdiing jacket.. Riding boots.. Gloves.. well all the necessity...

Then lets talk about your long term maintenance of these bikes.. THESE BIKES are perfect for you to see how you would be spending for a bigger capacity bike..

TIRE.. this is important.. most of the bike listed above wont be equipped with a good stock tire.. so I would suggest.. the first thing you do is to change the tires.... ESPECIALLY the front tire (that is where 80% of your braking power need to be transfer on the road surface)

So dont be a cheapo when it comes to bike maintenance.. I will only suggest two brand of tire.. BRIDGESTONE BATTLAX or PIRELLI..

learn how to control your bike.. learn how to lean a bit.. learn ur body positioning.. basically equip yourself with lots of experience and then move on to a bigger bike..

So.. Good luck.. and WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF BIKES... hihi

Litre bike munch speed from low speed to high speed on 6th gear like a 250cc fullthrotle on 2nd gear... Really need skill to master these beast... For a new rider, no matter how rich n spoil brats they are, better go learn on 250cc twin or atleast 650 twin first... It's engine power hard to overwhelmed the rider on most occasions...

If just wanna buy to eat highway only, better get goldwing.,.. Hehehe... Have radio sumore and seat like sofa

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Added on December 18, 2011, 2:22 pmBest explanation Bro...


This post has been edited by ikiey: Dec 18 2011, 02:22 PM

Honda is looking forward to make an inline six Sport bike...


I tell u mang, boxer 4 & 6 sounds better than inline 4.... But most Goldwing is silent... My mech ones has quite aloud exhaust...

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Added on December 18, 2011, 3:23 pmBroken Chassis means a severe accident .... Now I'm quite afraid to handle my Bike... Fingers crossed...

From 110cc straight to 1000cc.... Frankly telling, I'm afraid.....

But I do train on my mech bike sometimes... and I've rode CBR 600 & even GSXR 1000 K4.... Just have to change the way u twist the throttle & gear change....

But to me, the best handling bike I've ever ride us Honda CB400 VTEC....

This post has been edited by masz94: Dec 18 2011, 03:23 PM

wonder if aprillia still selling the rs 125 in malaysia...
i saw the naza the other day - looks ok - but fit and finish i dunno...it's hyosung rebadge i believe.
krr 150 is just nice for starting out (mine - the choke a bit emotional though)...

It is a rebadged Hyosung indeed.... It is voted the best Motorcycle of 2010 from the readers of Motorcycle.com
It's not about mere power... It is about Bang for buck, comfort, reliability, specs, safety, etc...

R1 ranked no.2... Coz it is more expensive, eventough good..... Honda & Yamaha bikes are often more expensive than other Japs... That's why they always fall short interms of value for money.....

I'm target this bike as my first bike, but the price tag in malaysia is pure killer. Can buy new z750

Singapore plated maybe...?? 10k can get..