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post Jun 2 2023, 12:45 PM, updated 3y ago

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Motorola Razr 40 Ultra (also known as Razr+ 2023)
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Motorola Razr 40 (also known as Razr 2023)
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Specifications

Razr 40 Ultra
184.5g
Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1
8GB+256GB, (512GB China exclusive)
6.79-inch 165Hz inner OLED display
3.6-inch 144Hz cover OLED display with Corning Gorilla Glass Victus Protection
IP52 Certified Dust and Water Resistant
New hinge design that closes completely shut, to protect inner display from dust
Water resistant nano coating on electronic components inside as well
3800mAh battery+33W Wired+5W Wireless charging

Razr 40 2023
188.6g
Snapdragon 7 Gen 1
8GB+256GB, (128GB China exclusive)
6.9-inch 165Hz inner OLED display
1.5-inch 60Hz cover OLED display with Corning Gorilla Glass Victus Protection
IP52 Certified Dust and Water Resistant
New hinge design that closes completely shut, to protect inner display from dust
Water resistant nano coating on electronic components inside as well
4200mAh+33W Wired+5W wireless charging

Both models cone with silicon case, 33W charger and charging cable included in box.

Pricing and Availability

Razr 40 Ultra (256GB)
US - $999.99
Europe - €1199
UK - £1049
China - ¥5699

Razr 40 (256GB)
US - Pricing to be announced in July
Europe - €799
UK - £799
China - ¥3999

Malaysia Pricing and Availability, not yet announced

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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Jun 2 2023, 12:45 PM)
Motorola Razr 40 Ultra (also known as Razr+ 2023)
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Motorola Razr 40 (also known as Razr 2023)
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Pricing and Availability

Razr 40 Ultra (256GB)
US - $999.99
Europe - €1199
UK - £1049
China - ¥5699

Razr 40 (128GB)
US - Pricing to be announced in July
Europe - €799
UK - £799
China - ¥3999

Malaysia Pricing and Availability, not yet announced
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most likely wont be officially sold here sweat.gif
last time the nearest global set was in AU

but still can get CN set and my previous experience u can use play services on top of the CN Rom or you can try flash a global rom (a bit hassle) whistling.gif

looking at the price for grey import will be plus another RM 400-500 on top sweat.gif

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post Jun 2 2023, 03:23 PM

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China pricing is very very tempting....
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post Jun 2 2023, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 2 2023, 02:36 PM)
most likely wont be officially sold here  sweat.gif
last time the nearest global set was in AU

but still can get CN set and my previous experience u can use play services on top of the CN Rom or you can try flash a global rom (a bit hassle) whistling.gif

looking at the price for grey import will be plus another  RM 400-500 on top  sweat.gif
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Correct and best part is that Razr 40 Ultra is the official name for both Europe, UK and China market, meaning we can flash global ROM easier to China set
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post Jun 2 2023, 06:53 PM

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Biggest wins imo for Motorola is CHARGER and Charging Cable Included in Box and of course the new design allows for certified dust resistance, and that no dust able to enter inner display when shut.

The next Z Flip better take notes, and the foldable market finally has some meaningful competition in durability.
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Yes china price is tempting... And moto has been doing the teardrop one since razr2022
I have seen scalper selling the new RAZR for a whopping 1000 more but just wait a bit more price will come down eventually 😉
As for z flip 5 most likely it will retain the design as previous one 😅

Sad that this time no charger in box as previous one include a 30w fast charger

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post Jun 3 2023, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 3 2023, 10:29 AM)
Yes china price is tempting... And moto has been doing the teardrop one since razr2022
I have seen scalper selling the new RAZR for a whopping 1000 more but just wait a bit more price will come down eventually 😉
As for z flip 5 most likely it will retain the design as previous one 😅

Sad that this time no charger in box as previous one include a 30w fast charger
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2023 Moto Razr 40 Series DOES HAVE the charger in box. That's why I said that Samsung foldables will finally have better competition in terms of durability and overall package.

https://youtu.be/NOB8O_qu8T0
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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Jun 3 2023, 07:53 PM)
2023 Moto Razr 40 Series DOES HAVE the charger in box. That's why I said that Samsung foldables will finally have better competition in terms of durability and overall package.

https://youtu.be/NOB8O_qu8T0
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Nice if it is included ... Just see how much it will be sold here later .. maybe the CN set is cheaper 🫢
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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Jun 2 2023, 06:53 PM)
Biggest wins imo for Motorola is CHARGER and Charging Cable Included in Box and of course the new design allows for certified dust resistance, and that no dust able to enter inner display when shut.

The next Z Flip better take notes, and the foldable market finally has some meaningful competition in durability.
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Haha about bloody time the original fondable company has come back with the bang laugh.gif bruce.gif
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 4 2023, 08:00 PM)
Haha about bloody time the original fondable company has come back with the bang laugh.gif bruce.gif
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See later if it is officially sold here only

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post Jun 6 2023, 03:37 PM

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The 40 Ultra looks really good. Would love to try it out if Motorola brings it in.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 6 2023, 03:37 PM)
The 40 Ultra looks really good. Would love to try it out if Motorola brings it in.
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Most likely as of now maybe not
U can try to get the import CN set though..but it was a big hit in CN so maybe no stock yet

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post Jun 7 2023, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 7 2023, 08:00 AM)
Most likely as of now maybe not
U can try to get the import CN set though..but it was a big hit in CN so maybe no stock yet
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The price of CN sets is very tempting. brows.gif

But better becareful with Chinese sets though. Oneplus 11 CN sets cannot be directly flashed to global rom like last time. Manufacturers now have ways to prevent Chinese set from being flashed to global roms. It still can be done though but not worth the hassle.


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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 7 2023, 11:48 AM)
The price of CN sets is very tempting.  brows.gif

But better becareful with Chinese sets though. Oneplus 11 CN sets cannot be directly flashed to global rom like last time. Manufacturers now have ways to prevent Chinese set from being flashed to global roms. It still can be done though but not worth the hassle.
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Yes this is one way they control the stock out

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 7 2023, 12:35 PM)
Yes this is one way they control the stock out
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I wonder if the screen will last after multiple open and close. I'm still abit sceptical about whether the screen can withstand so many opens and closes as Im a heavy user. I mean it's still quite a new tech no?

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 7 2023, 01:04 PM)
I wonder if the screen will last after multiple open and close.  I'm still abit sceptical about whether the screen can withstand so many opens and closes as Im a heavy user. I mean it's still quite a new tech no?
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This was 2020 laugh.gif rclxub.gif

Judge yourself for 2023 laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 7 2023, 02:55 PM)


This was 2020 laugh.gif rclxub.gif

Judge yourself for 2023 laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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If your drop it yourself and then break the screen then its your own fault. Im asking if open and closing it freqently will damage the screen in the long term.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 7 2023, 03:01 PM)
If your drop it yourself and then break the screen then its your own fault. Im asking if open and closing it freqently will damage the screen in the long term.
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Michael Fisher's long term review says open and closing frequently did not damage Razr internal folding screen long term.

In fact, he notes that external cover screen is more fragile than internal folding screen.
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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Jun 7 2023, 03:32 PM)
Michael Fisher's long term review says open and closing frequently did not damage Razr internal folding screen long term.

In fact, he notes that external cover screen is more fragile than internal folding screen.
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Thanks. I hope there is a nice cover for the phone then. To use it naked would be best but also riskiest because you would definitely crack the screen if you were to drop it.


Looks like there is... but its a TPU film only. Protect from scratches yes, but not for drops and falls.

https://shopee.com.my/product/266004105/23666852325

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post Jun 8 2023, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 7 2023, 05:24 PM)
Thanks. I hope there is a nice cover for the phone then. To use it naked would be best but also riskiest because you would definitely crack the screen if you were to drop it.
Looks like there is... but its a TPU film only. Protect from scratches yes, but not for drops and falls.

https://shopee.com.my/product/266004105/23666852325
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https://youtu.be/NOB8O_qu8T0

From this unboxing video, Moto Razr 40 Series comes with protective external silicon clear cases in the box, to protect external screen a bit more

That alone shows that Motorola giving first time foldable users confidence in durability and long term use compared to Samsung foldables where casing and charger is sold separately.
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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Jun 7 2023, 03:32 PM)
Michael Fisher's long term review says open and closing frequently did not damage Razr internal folding screen long term.

In fact, he notes that external cover screen is more fragile than internal folding screen.
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I can agree
The external is more fragile too in my experience with RAZR 2022 😅

It does come with a cover

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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Jun 8 2023, 07:37 AM)
https://youtu.be/NOB8O_qu8T0

From this unboxing video, Moto Razr 40 Series comes with protective external silicon clear cases in the box, to protect external screen a bit more

That alone shows that Motorola giving first time foldable users confidence in durability and long term use compared to Samsung foldables where casing and charger is sold separately.
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Tell me about it. I really hate Samsung and Apple who short change their customers by not giving chargers under the guise of saving the environment bullshit. I have banned Samsung since quite some time ago. I have also opt not to replace my Iphone every year because of this.
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charger included or not?
TLDR;
No

Price usd 999 while EU 1290
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post Jun 12 2023, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 11 2023, 10:17 PM)
charger included or not?
TLDR;
No

Price usd 999 while EU 1290
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Charger Included in EU and CN set (Motorola Razr 40 Ultra)
EU Unboxing: https://youtu.be/x7td1Gvp4oY
CN Unboxing: https://youtu.be/NOB8O_qu8T0

But US Set, Moto Razr+ no charger included
US video: https://youtu.be/EjRqaNFFGBY
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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Jun 12 2023, 12:22 AM)
Charger Included in EU and CN set (Motorola Razr 40 Ultra)
EU Unboxing: https://youtu.be/x7td1Gvp4oY
CN Unboxing: https://youtu.be/NOB8O_qu8T0

But US Set, Moto Razr+ no charger included
US video: https://youtu.be/EjRqaNFFGBY
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EU set is much more expensive 😅
CN might be better choice unless they lock it like some brands

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hope someone will bring the phone in Malaysia.
price at shopee for 256gb around rm4.2k. haha

i dm directd if they plan to bring motorola razr 40 ultra, and got reply "coming soon!".

hope the 128gb option available.
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 12 2023, 10:25 AM)
hope someone will bring the phone in Malaysia.
price at shopee for 256gb around rm4.2k. haha

i dm directd if they plan to bring motorola razr 40 ultra, and got reply "coming soon!".

hope the 128gb option available.
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maybe fastech lim can source for CN set
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quite tempted to get one from shopee, but not sure about the warranty claims
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QUOTE(alternativehype @ Jun 12 2023, 12:09 PM)
maybe fastech lim can source for CN set
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yes, but so far, no update yet. if in a rush, cannot lah.
fastech will takes time, but cheaper, nevertheless

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be careful...my x30 pro after update to android 13...no more 5g...maybe needs to use 5g inside original region?
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Monmar shopee have the Ultra 8Gb 256gb for Rm4.5k. Some nice casings are already available from other sellers too.
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QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jun 12 2023, 05:00 PM)
quite tempted to get one from shopee, but not sure about the warranty claims
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warranty claim i suggest to get via Fastech lim he will honor his word just that u need to fork out for the shipping and the tax later sweat.gif

QUOTE(biotic_boy @ Jun 12 2023, 11:37 PM)
be careful...my x30 pro after update to android 13...no more 5g...maybe needs to use 5g inside original region?
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Not sure since Razr 2022 still on A12 and 5G is working now ... hopefully A13 will retain 5G too later

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 13 2023, 07:35 AM)
Monmar shopee have the Ultra 8Gb 256gb for Rm4.5k. Some nice casings are already available from other sellers too.
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yes this is the price need to pay for early adopter mega_shok.gif

Also RAZR have history of black screen internal (RAZR 5G), Black external (RAZR 2022) rclxub.gif so beware

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 13 2023, 10:25 AM)
warranty claim i suggest to get via Fastech lim he will honor his word just that u need to fork out for the shipping and the tax later  sweat.gif
Not sure since Razr 2022 still on A12 and 5G is working now ... hopefully A13 will retain 5G too later
yes this is the price need to pay for early adopter  mega_shok.gif

Also RAZR have history of black screen internal (RAZR 5G), Black external (RAZR 2022) rclxub.gif so beware
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So I guess its safer to purchase it from fastech lim rather than random shopee merchants?

I was concerned about the black screen problem, but I thought since it's their 3rd attempt at it, could be better 😔
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 12 2023, 10:25 AM)
hope someone will bring the phone in Malaysia.
price at shopee for 256gb around rm4.2k. haha

i dm directd if they plan to bring motorola razr 40 ultra, and got reply "coming soon!".

hope the 128gb option available.
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Ordered mine from a friend 8 256gb 3.7k haha. Already at custom msia.

QUOTE(alternativehype @ Jun 12 2023, 12:09 PM)
maybe fastech lim can source for CN set
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Fastech still not update the price from his list.

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 13 2023, 07:35 AM)
Monmar shopee have the Ultra 8Gb 256gb for Rm4.5k. Some nice casings are already available from other sellers too.
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can get lower la boss haha. 512gb 4.3k my friend quote me. I got mine 8 256 3.7k haha
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 13 2023, 07:35 AM)
Monmar shopee have the Ultra 8Gb 256gb for Rm4.5k. Some nice casings are already available from other sellers too.
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Bro link for nice casing rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 13 2023, 02:46 PM)
Ordered mine from a friend 8 256gb 3.7k haha. Already at custom msia.
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wow nice man, your friend still got any stock coming? brows.gif
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QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jun 13 2023, 03:12 PM)
wow nice man, your friend still got any stock coming?  brows.gif
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Need order. Got ppl place order he can order but he mention 2nd batch out of stock after he ordered for me haha. Guess have to wait.
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 13 2023, 02:58 PM)
Bro link for nice casing  rclxms.gif
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Ultra 8GB 256GB for Rm3.7k? Where to get? You help me get the phone first... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 13 2023, 04:02 PM)
Ultra 8GB 256GB for Rm3.7k? Where to get? You help me get the phone first...  tongue.gif
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Need order haha but i think 2nd batch out of stock. Ordered from a friend who does import for me. HAHA
I ordered from my friend since launch haha.

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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 13 2023, 03:16 PM)
Need order. Got ppl place order he can order but he mention 2nd batch out of stock after he ordered for me haha. Guess have to wait.
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haha ok, cheapest on shopee is 4.1k, tempted tempted
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QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jun 13 2023, 04:15 PM)
haha ok, cheapest on shopee is 4.1k, tempted tempted
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Just hope the phone doesn't have much notification delay since it's china set.

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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 13 2023, 04:17 PM)
thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
Just hope the phone doesn't have much notification delay since it's china set.
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hmm it would be my first china set if i do proceed with it, but what kind of notification delay can we expect tho? I heard motorola is very bad in terms of updates unsure.gif
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QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jun 13 2023, 04:20 PM)
hmm it would be my first china set if i do proceed with it, but what kind of notification delay can we expect tho? I heard motorola is very bad in terms of updates  unsure.gif
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Usually is those messaging apps delay in coming message

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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 13 2023, 04:21 PM)
Usually is those messaging apps delay in coming message
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ahhh i see i see, hopefully not too, i guess i'll wait for fastech lim pricing and decide
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QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jun 13 2023, 04:35 PM)
ahhh i see i see, hopefully not too, i guess i'll wait for fastech lim pricing and decide
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Yea can wait for fastech and see his price.
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 13 2023, 04:05 PM)
Need order haha but i think 2nd batch out of stock. Ordered from a friend who does import for me. HAHA
I ordered from my friend since launch haha.
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 13 2023, 05:33 PM)
Your lobang so good laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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Nice price when arrived do review cool2.gif
for me no issue with the delay notification ... on CN rom but need to install google services and also google contact sync if not no sync to google

have experience both CN and Int Rom more or less the same just that Int Rom update better and faster as last time i got 2 updates but on CN rom no update (security update) until now stuck on Dec update ... very slow ranting.gif

why i am on CN rom now is because i got the black screen external and need to send back for warranty after 4 months of using doh.gif

as i said be prepared as it is very famous for the black screen eventhough it is gen 3 now

most likely u can reflash the int rom on a CN device but do bear in mind it will stuck in bootloop after locking back the boot loader some forumer reports on previous gen of RAZR ... happen to mine also when trying to flash back the CN rom before sending for warranty

with the above in mind do beware

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 13 2023, 07:47 PM)
Nice price when arrived do review cool2.gif
for me no issue with the delay notification ... on CN rom but need to install google services and also google contact sync if not no sync to google

have experience both CN and Int Rom more or less the same just that Int Rom update better and faster as last time i got 2 updates but on CN rom no update (security update) until now stuck on Dec update ... very slow  ranting.gif

why i am on CN rom now is because i got the black screen external and need to send back for warranty after 4 months of using  doh.gif 

as i said be prepared as it is very famous for the black screen eventhough it is gen 3 now

most likely u can reflash the int rom on a CN device but do bear in mind it will stuck in bootloop after locking back the boot loader some forumer reports on previous gen of RAZR ... happen to mine also when trying to flash back the CN rom before sending for warranty

with the above in mind do beware
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Noted bro. Hope i can use longer this phone haha.
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 13 2023, 07:47 PM)
Nice price when arrived do review cool2.gif
for me no issue with the delay notification ... on CN rom but need to install google services and also google contact sync if not no sync to google

have experience both CN and Int Rom more or less the same just that Int Rom update better and faster as last time i got 2 updates but on CN rom no update (security update) until now stuck on Dec update ... very slow  ranting.gif

why i am on CN rom now is because i got the black screen external and need to send back for warranty after 4 months of using  doh.gif 

as i said be prepared as it is very famous for the black screen eventhough it is gen 3 now
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i guess have to wait for some longer term review on the gen 3 to see if the black screen issue still lingers
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 13 2023, 07:47 PM)
Nice price when arrived do review cool2.gif
for me no issue with the delay notification ... on CN rom but need to install google services and also google contact sync if not no sync to google

have experience both CN and Int Rom more or less the same just that Int Rom update better and faster as last time i got 2 updates but on CN rom no update (security update) until now stuck on Dec update ... very slow  ranting.gif

why i am on CN rom now is because i got the black screen external and need to send back for warranty after 4 months of using  doh.gif 

as i said be prepared as it is very famous for the black screen eventhough it is gen 3 now

most likely u can reflash the int rom on a CN device but do bear in mind it will stuck in bootloop after locking back the boot loader some forumer reports on previous gen of RAZR ... happen to mine also when trying to flash back the CN rom before sending for warranty

with the above in mind do beware
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Easier to put it, safest bet would be to buy MY sets, provided if it is really coming here to Malaysia. Maybe I'm getting old already but I wouldn't want to go through the hassle of flashing here and there and having to mod here and there just to get some basic features on my phone working.


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Easier to put it, safest bet would be to buy MY sets, provided if it is really coming here to Malaysia. Maybe I'm getting old already but I wouldn't want to go through the hassle of flashing here and there and having to mod here and there just to get some basic features on my phone working.
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I doubt it will launch in Msia boss, maybe Europe like last yr 2022 model.
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I doubt it will launch in Msia boss, maybe Europe like last yr 2022 model.
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Then better bet would be getting Europe or Southeast Asia sets with playstore.
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Need to test when it arrive.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 13 2023, 10:42 PM)
Easier to put it, safest bet would be to buy MY sets, provided if it is really coming here to Malaysia. Maybe I'm getting old already but I wouldn't want to go through the hassle of flashing here and there and having to mod here and there just to get some basic features on my phone working.
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Don't think it will be coming to MY the closet i think is AU.
Installation of PlayStore is just side load and install only just after that u need to sideload a bit more to make the sync works
A bit hassle still

QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jun 13 2023, 08:34 PM)
i guess have to wait for some longer term review on the gen 3 to see if the black screen issue still lingers
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Hopefully... 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
On this issue ... Seems like the previous model have black screen issue a lot more at CN set rather than US or EU or AU set .. but then again maybe just a small sales in those countries

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Just received my Moto 40 ultra icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 16 2023, 07:10 PM)
Just received my Moto 40 ultra  icon_idea.gif
Giving it a try to see any notification delays or not.
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congrats bro! thumbup.gif waiting to get your feedback on the phone icon_question.gif

how does the hinge feel?

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Just received my Moto 40 ultra  icon_idea.gif
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Awesome so u on CN ROM?
Installed the play services yet?

Do report back after a while ya
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Awesome so u on CN ROM?
Installed the play services yet?

Do report back after a while ya
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Ya china ROM , play store all done no issue.
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congrats bro!  thumbup.gif  waiting to get your feedback on the phone  icon_question.gif

how does the hinge feel?
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The hinge is solid, crease hardly can see.
Screen refresh is smooth no lag issue though 8g ram.
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The hinge is solid, crease hardly can see.
Screen refresh is smooth no lag issue though 8g ram.
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Nice to know man, prices are getting cheaper on shopee. Thinking of either the blue or Magenta
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Blue I 5hink better then magenta haha
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Blue I 5hink better then magenta haha
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haha yea, wanna ask if your razr that has china rom is unable to get 5G? apparently i've read that china roms usually cannot detect 5g, only 4g.
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I get 5g no issue.
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Usually CN rom can get 5g out of the box eventhough non supported or official phone in MY not like pixel sweat.gif

anyway do report back on the battery can tahan or not after a while using it ya since the tweak the screen to a faster refresh rate with a small bump on battery capacity

QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 16 2023, 08:46 PM)
The hinge is solid, crease hardly can see.
Screen refresh is smooth no lag issue though 8g ram.
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use it for a week and do report back since there is a reviewer in the US said the crease will be vey visible after a while and frequent open and close

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 17 2023, 01:09 PM)
Usually CN rom can get 5g out of the box eventhough non supported or official phone in MY not like pixel  sweat.gif

anyway do report back on the battery can tahan or not after a while using it ya since the tweak the screen to a faster refresh rate with a small bump on battery capacity
use it for a week and do report back since there is a reviewer in the US said the crease will be vey visible after a while and frequent open and close
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Ohhh I see, yeah I did see the reviewer mentioned about the crease visibility, but I think that one is still ok, just wanna see how durable the hinge / screen is from the folding
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 13 2023, 11:36 PM)
Then better bet would be getting Europe or Southeast Asia sets with playstore.
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Europe price expansive alooooooot bro. But bos is loaded so ok la haha.

QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 14 2023, 06:08 AM)
Don't think it will be coming to MY the closet i think is AU.
Installation of PlayStore is just side load and install only just after that u need to sideload a bit more to make the sync works
A bit hassle still
Hopefully... 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
On this issue ... Seems like the previous model have black screen issue a lot more at CN set rather than US or EU or AU set .. but then again maybe just a small sales in those countries
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I see how long can use the phone haha to see got black screen issue or not.

QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 17 2023, 01:09 PM)
Usually CN rom can get 5g out of the box eventhough non supported or official phone in MY not like pixel  sweat.gif

anyway do report back on the battery can tahan or not after a while using it ya since the tweak the screen to a faster refresh rate with a small bump on battery capacity
use it for a week and do report back since there is a reviewer in the US said the crease will be vey visible after a while and frequent open and close
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IF crease is noticeable then z flip 4 can throw into the rubbish bin hahaha.
Of course there is some crease there but it's really not an issue. I doubt now any flip or fold can make no crease yet.
But i would say the moto crease is less to non noticeable unless u r super fuzzy on that haha. IF compared to Z flip the moto is consider very very good.
Regarding on the battery i think for my use i think can tahan 1 day no issue as i don't plan gaming on this phone. Just social apps and youtube. Very normal use.
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i read one of malay portal, they said lenovo might bring razr 40 ultra to Malaysia.

I hope it becomes reality even the chances are really slim. 😬
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 17 2023, 05:35 PM)
i read one of malay portal, they said lenovo might bring razr 40 ultra to Malaysia.

I hope it becomes reality even the chances are really slim. 😬
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Well they did bring the razr 5G back in 2021 but they skipped the 2022. Hopefully they deem the malaysia market big enough to bring in the 40 ultra flex.gif
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 17 2023, 01:23 AM)
I get 5g no issue.
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Thats a surprise. Meaning that both CN versions and international versions should be sharing the same modem basebands which is a plus point. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

So you installed google playstore on the phone already?

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 17 2023, 06:35 PM)
Thats a surprise. Meaning that both CN versions and international versions should be sharing the same modem basebands which is a plus point.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

So you installed google playstore on the phone already?
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Ya bro very easy only. And lucky no messages delay haha.
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 17 2023, 05:35 PM)
i read one of malay portal, they said lenovo might bring razr 40 ultra to Malaysia.

I hope it becomes reality even the chances are really slim. 😬
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Read only bro. U see razr 2022 only EU version. Take it with a pinch of salt 😉
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Read only bro. U see razr 2022 only EU version.  Take it with a pinch of salt 😉
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I agree with this .. best bet to get the CN set .. but wait a bit lah a few months to see if got issues or not
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 17 2023, 07:45 PM)
I agree with this .. best bet to get the CN set .. but wait a bit lah a few months to see if got issues or not
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how has your razr 2022 experience been?
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 17 2023, 07:31 PM)
Read only bro. U see razr 2022 only EU version.  Take it with a pinch of salt 😉
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I agree with this .. best bet to get the CN set .. but wait a bit lah a few months to see if got issues or not
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Ya... for the price. EU set prices are way too expensive.

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Good for a few months then the black screen occurred the external one and googling it up there are forumers said in CN has a lot of that issues rclxub.gif
i managed to get it back to CN for replacement and cost me a whopping RM 450 for shipping + tax + handling rclxub.gif

as for the experience, i was on int rom and it worked great as can get 5g out of the box. So issues what so ever and managed to get 2 updates before the ext screen died. To send for warranty when flash it back to CN rom it got stuck in boot loop rclxub.gif so passed it to go warranty and after 2 months it got back with CN rom.

On CN rom u need to enable the google play option in the rom and install play services + play store + contact sync. Then remove the bloat CN software by uninstalling them.
Update is so slow ... no update pass Dec update sweat.gif
You can still get 5G out of the box and VoLTE (HD) not sure about wifi calling though and im on celcom.
No late notification but there is still the CN kill background app when idle

As for the build, nice sturdy and good dimension comparing to the thin tall samsung but the best form factor i think is still the oppo one

camera wise, still ok i think. Batt life ok still ok for me since this is my backup phone

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 17 2023, 10:16 PM)
Good for a few months then the black screen occurred the external one and googling it up there are forumers said in CN has a lot of that issues  rclxub.gif
i managed to get it back to CN for replacement and cost me a whopping RM 450 for shipping + tax + handling  rclxub.gif

as for the experience, i was on int rom and it worked great as can get 5g out of the box. So issues what so ever and managed to get 2 updates before the ext screen died. To send for warranty when flash it back to CN rom it got stuck in boot loop  rclxub.gif so passed it to go warranty and after 2 months it got back with CN rom.

On CN rom u need to enable the google play option in the rom and install play services + play store + contact sync. Then remove the bloat CN software by uninstalling them.
Update is so slow ... no update pass Dec update sweat.gif
You can still get 5G out of the box and VoLTE (HD) not sure about wifi calling though and im on celcom.
No late notification but there is still the CN kill background app when idle

As for the build, nice sturdy and good dimension comparing to the thin tall samsung but the best form factor i think is still the oppo one

camera wise, still ok i think. Batt life ok still ok for me since this is my backup phone

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another advise is to go to CN forum to get info on problem if there is any
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fastech lim already update the list.

256 black: 3691
256 blue: 3724

512 : 4060

very tempting!

should I wait before it official come to Malaysia, or just buy CN version 🤣

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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 18 2023, 09:05 AM)
fastech lim already update the list.

256 black: 3691
256 blue: 3724

512 : 4060

very tempting!

should I wait before it official come to Malaysia, or just buy CN version 🤣
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Good price indeed, basically almost same price as CN. Still not sure whether they will bring it into Malaysia or not, but highly doubt it will happen 😔
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 18 2023, 09:05 AM)
fastech lim already update the list.

256 black: 3691
256 blue: 3724

512 : 4060

very tempting!

should I wait before it official come to Malaysia, or just buy CN version 🤣
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Wait until next month and see Samsung July Unpacked Z Flip pricing 😉
Bahaha hopefully Samsung sees Motorola as fierce competitor

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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 18 2023, 09:05 AM)
fastech lim already update the list.

256 black: 3691
256 blue: 3724

512 : 4060

very tempting!

should I wait before it official come to Malaysia, or just buy CN version 🤣
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good pricing

QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jun 18 2023, 10:18 AM)
Good price indeed, basically almost same price as CN. Still not sure whether they will bring it into Malaysia or not, but highly doubt it will happen 😔
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I doubt it will too whistling.gif

QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Jun 18 2023, 10:46 AM)
Wait until next month and see Samsung July Unpacked Z Flip pricing 😉
Bahaha hopefully Samsung sees Motorola as fierce competitor
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Price wise samsung dont care one ... the form factor also they are not changing .. so i dont think price wise it will be cheaper

Just wait a bit more better to see have the black screen issue or not sweat.gif

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 18 2023, 11:43 AM)
Just wait a bit more better to see have the black screen issue or not  sweat.gif
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haha perhaps 3rd time's the charm? btw you said to check on CN forum regarding the razrs, can suggest any? i'm quite a banana, probably would not be able to search for one by myself sweat.gif
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QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jun 18 2023, 03:49 PM)
haha perhaps 3rd time's the charm? btw you said to check on CN forum regarding the razrs, can suggest any? i'm quite a banana, probably would not be able to search for one by myself  sweat.gif
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Not sure either last time I google black screen razr2022 then went to an English forum that have a link to a CN one
Btw I too use Google translate 🤣

Hopefully 3rd time better ... But dunno also

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 18 2023, 04:04 PM)
Not sure either last time I google black screen razr2022 then went to an English forum that have a link to a CN one
Btw I too use Google translate 🤣

Hopefully 3rd time better ... But dunno also
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Lets hope there is no black screen la haha.
So far so good my moto 2023
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Lets hope there is no black screen la haha.
So far so good my moto 2023
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Let's hope so since mine came after like 4 months using it one fine morning it went black
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Let's hope so since mine came after like 4 months using it one fine morning it went black
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Hope I can use 3 months bro 🤭
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Hope I can use 3 months bro 🤭
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Uh what will happen after 3 months ?? Resell ??
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 18 2023, 08:35 PM)
Lets hope there is no black screen la haha.
So far so good my moto 2023
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Let's hope so since mine came after like 4 months using it one fine morning it went black
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There are bound to be lemon units amongst all the sets sold. But if purchased from fastech lim, then wont be a problem if RMA is required because he can send to back to China. But i cannot remember if he would charge for it.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 19 2023, 11:57 AM)
There are bound to be lemon units amongst all the sets sold. But if purchased from fastech lim, then wont be a problem if RMA is required because he can send to back to China. But i cannot remember if he would charge for it.
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i think he will

but anyway today i found out that my whatsapp notification is late ... need to open the app then it will connect sweat.gif
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 19 2023, 06:41 AM)
Uh what will happen after 3 months ?? Resell ??
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Haha maybe after will try zenfone10 or z flip 5. Not sure but usually all my phone I use around 3 months or less 😂

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 19 2023, 11:57 AM)
There are bound to be lemon units amongst all the sets sold. But if purchased from fastech lim, then wont be a problem if RMA is required because he can send to back to China. But i cannot remember if he would charge for it.
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My previous moto 2022 got FP issue cannot register my supplier 1 to 1 change a new unit for me. But that unit I use 1 week only.

QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 19 2023, 02:59 PM)
i think he will

but anyway today i found out that my whatsapp notification is late ... need to open the app then it will connect  sweat.gif
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40 ultra all messaging apps no delay lucky.
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 19 2023, 02:59 PM)
i think he will

but anyway today i found out that my whatsapp notification is late ... need to open the app then it will connect  sweat.gif
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Sometimes this could be because of the battery saving feature in android itself. Try turning off auto optimize if things get too bad.

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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 19 2023, 03:33 PM)
Haha maybe after will try zenfone10 or z flip 5. Not sure but usually all my phone I use around 3 months or less 😂
My previous moto 2022 got FP issue cannot register my supplier 1 to 1 change a new unit for me. But that unit I use 1 week only.
40 ultra all messaging apps no delay lucky.
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Wow 3 months change new phone 😅
RAZR 2022 sad to say u got FP problem but then again congrats u can sell it by a week

40 ultra, See how it goes lah later hahaha too early bro

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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 19 2023, 03:33 PM)
Haha maybe after will try zenfone10 or z flip 5. Not sure but usually all my phone I use around 3 months or less 😂
My previous moto 2022 got FP issue cannot register my supplier 1 to 1 change a new unit for me. But that unit I use 1 week only.
40 ultra all messaging apps no delay lucky.
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Sell the Ultra 40 to me. My turn to try.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 19 2023, 05:13 PM)
Wow 3 months change new phone 😅
RAZR 2022 sad to say u got FP problem but then again congrats u can sell it by a week

40 ultra, See how it goes lah later hahaha too early bro
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Ya hobbies ma, keep changing phones every few months lo. But fold 5 will wait 2nd hand if wan try and flip 5.
Priority wan test Z10, last yr I tested z9 love the small compact size 😂
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 19 2023, 06:30 PM)
Ya hobbies ma, keep changing phones every few months lo. But fold 5 will wait 2nd hand if wan try and flip 5.
Priority wan test Z10, last yr I tested z9 love the small compact size 😂
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very expensive hobby you have

nice ... was hoping to try pixel fold but most likely wont come here so the next best thing maybe OP V hahaha

ya z9 is nice just it didnt make it here

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 19 2023, 07:02 PM)
very expensive hobby you have

nice ... was hoping to try pixel fold but most likely wont come here so the next best thing maybe OP V hahaha

ya z9 is nice just it didnt make it here
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Pixel fold better get the oppo fold n2, pixel fold like a fail product, read some where no next model lol. Maybe till they perfected it.
Ya z9 my supplier help me import, guess Z10 too. When release will ask him to import. Now see the rumoured 5k battery on a 5.9 inch phone 😂

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So far this moto 2023 if heavy user need to charge it quite often. Light user will be fine but not heavy user. That is the draw back I find it.
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haha i think my only concern is that whether or not the phone can last for 2 years, previous razr has mixed sentiments. some say use 2 years no problem at all, some after 1 month itself screen koyak
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QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jun 19 2023, 08:09 PM)
haha i think my only concern is that whether or not the phone can last for 2 years, previous razr has mixed sentiments. some say use 2 years no problem at all, some after 1 month itself screen koyak
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This one u need to wait and see .. see forum after 3 mths

QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 19 2023, 07:10 PM)
Pixel fold better get the oppo fold n2, pixel fold like a fail product, read some where no next model lol. Maybe till they perfected it.
Ya z9 my supplier help me import, guess Z10 too. When release will ask him to import. Now see the rumoured 5k battery on a 5.9 inch phone 😂
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Nope it havent come out yet ... supposed to hit the store in end of June. Anyway the bro of oppo will come out soon too OP V whistling.gif see later if it good or just hype

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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 19 2023, 07:13 PM)
So far this moto 2023 if heavy user need to charge it quite often. Light user will be fine but not heavy user. That is the draw back I find it.
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Due too high refresh rate on both screen 😅 one of the factor

Anyway did the 2023 CN ROM come with an app call wallet?
Not google wallet


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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 19 2023, 07:13 PM)
So far this moto 2023 if heavy user need to charge it quite often. Light user will be fine but not heavy user. That is the draw back I find it.
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3800 Mah is a bit on the small side for battery though.

QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 20 2023, 02:55 PM)
This one u need to wait and see .. see forum after 3 mths
Nope it havent come out yet ... supposed to hit the store in end of June. Anyway the bro of oppo will come out soon too OP V  whistling.gif  see later if it good or just hype
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 21 2023, 09:18 AM)
Due too high refresh rate on both screen 😅 one of the factor

Anyway did the 2023 CN ROM come with an app call wallet?
Not google wallet
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 21 2023, 02:38 PM)
Yup there is another wallet not google wallet.
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so that wallet is CN wallet ... but good lah can replace RFID card ... i use it to replace my pass card, now i only need the phone to access my office turnstile and door rclxm9.gif

coz me always forgot the card in car hahaha

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 21 2023, 02:58 PM)
so that wallet is CN wallet ... but good lah can replace RFID card ... i use it to replace my pass card, now i only need the phone to access my office turnstile and door  rclxm9.gif

coz me always forgot the card in car hahaha
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actually what is CN wallet? i try to google it, but could not get any information about it except google pay 😅
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 21 2023, 07:57 PM)
actually what is CN wallet? i try to google it, but could not get any information about it except google pay 😅
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Not sure also I saw the app in the phone then saw can add any card that have RFID .. tried it with my office pass card and surprised that it work
I'll do a video and share later when I'm back to the office

I don't think there is any info on the wallet app since from china
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Not sure also I saw the app in the phone then saw can add any card that have RFID .. tried it with my office pass card and surprised that it work
I'll do a video and share later when I'm back to the office

I don't think there is any info on the wallet app since from china
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 21 2023, 08:13 PM)
Not sure also I saw the app in the phone then saw can add any card that have RFID .. tried it with my office pass card and surprised that it work
I'll do a video and share later when I'm back to the office

I don't think there is any info on the wallet app since from china
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You used this app on your Pixel? Manual install apk file izzit?
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You used this app on your Pixel? Manual install apk file izzit?
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It's on RAZR .. i m lazy to extract it .. actually i forgotten to do already
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 22 2023, 11:45 AM)
is it similar like this?

youtube
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so anyone else buying one? brows.gif
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so anyone else buying one?  brows.gif
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Selling mine off soon, waiting for bro cruzzmz to sell his moto 2022  brows.gif
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wow so fast wanna sell ah bro, how come? selling to bro cruzz? brows.gif
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wow so fast wanna sell ah bro, how come? selling to bro cruzz?  brows.gif
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Bored liao ma haha.
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haha, if you wanna sell, do drop me a pm as well if still available.
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Bro iLemonx
Take my 2022 and I'll take the 2023
Can??
Hahaha
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Bro iLemonx
Take my 2022 and I'll take the 2023
Can??
Hahaha
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 23 2023, 12:14 AM)
icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Ya,so i take iLemonx's ip14 pro first to make all these happen.
Rm1999, deal
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Ya,so i take iLemonx's ip14 pro first to make all these happen.
Rm1999, deal
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Congrats iLemonx

enjoy your new phone thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 22 2023, 11:21 PM)
Bro iLemonx
Take my 2022 and I'll take the 2023
Can??
Hahaha
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haha can't la brooo, been wanting to try this phone out rclxm9.gif
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haha can't la brooo, been wanting to try this phone out  rclxm9.gif
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Have fun with it ya .. but bear in mind flip n fold sensitive phones hahaha
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hahah maybe i'll do a badboy, use 1 week then sell  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 23 2023, 06:54 PM)
Sure or not bro 1 week sell hahah
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How bro? You selling your Razr 40 Ultra or not? tongue.gif
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Uh btw i just got update on my 2022. Security update May 2023 and a couple more update to the Moto app and camera a 186MB update ...
what is your version now?

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How bro? You selling your Razr 40 Ultra or not? tongue.gif
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Bro already sold to iLemonx this afternoon hahah
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hahah maybe i'll do a badboy, use 1 week then sell  tongue.gif
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then ill take it cheap cheap hahaha doh.gif
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Just received my package today.
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I'm using Digi Postpaid 150 and yes, 5G IS WORKING (see last picture).

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wow! nice colour! may I know if you still use CN rom or flash to global rom?

I read on Fastech Lim:
“Motorola flash global rom rm** , no auto update and can’t update version any more”

does it mean if we flash to global rom, we will not received any update after that?

I did google diferences between CN rom vs global rom. but still not understand 🥲

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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 24 2023, 09:08 PM)
wow! nice colour! may I know if you still use CN rom or flash to global rom?

I read on Fastech Lim:
“Motorola flash global rom rm** , no auto update and can’t update version any more”

does it mean if we flash to global rom, we will not received any update after that?

I did google diferences between CN rom vs global rom. but still not understand 🥲
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I'm still using CN ROM and do not intend to flash to Global ROM.
Why? Because CN ROM officially supports Google Play Services. It's just a toggle in the settings app.

To make it simple, ALL APPS ARE WORKING IN CN ROM. No issue with Gapps, banking apps etc.

Just take note - ALL Google services are working EXCEPT Google Location History (blocked by CCP) and "hey Google" voice activation.

Anyway, Motorola flashing is a bit tricky but I read that there is a way to flash Global ROM and relock the bootloader (so you can still receive software updates). I don't plan on doing this because there are plenty of features CN ROM has which are missing in Global ROM.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 24 2023, 09:23 PM)
I'm still using CN ROM and do not intend to flash to Global ROM.
Why? Because CN ROM officially supports Google Play Services. It's just a toggle in the settings app.

To make it simple, ALL APPS ARE WORKING IN CN ROM. No issue with Gapps, banking apps etc.

Just take note - ALL Google services are working EXCEPT Google Location History (blocked by CCP) and "hey Google" voice activation.

Anyway, Motorola flashing is a bit tricky but I read that there is a way to flash Global ROM and relock the bootloader (so you can still receive software updates). I don't plan on doing this because there are plenty of features CN ROM has which are missing in Global ROM.

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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 24 2023, 09:08 PM)
wow! nice colour! may I know if you still use CN rom or flash to global rom?

I read on Fastech Lim:
“Motorola flash global rom rm** , no auto update and can’t update version any more”

does it mean if we flash to global rom, we will not received any update after that?

I did google diferences between CN rom vs global rom. but still not understand 🥲
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Yes u can flash global Rom but it is a bit tricky and it may result to boot loop if all go south ... I have tried last time on 2022 and when want to return warranty when flash back CN Rom it was stuck in boot loop 😅

U can still get update as u need to set it to the correct region for update ..i managed to get 2 updates before I return for warranty

As for CN Rom it is almost the same as the global just that the update might be slow as I only got the May security patch this week
CN Rom will have a lot of CN app bloatware and may have issue of late notification as I am experiencing with whatsapp this week

Well hope this help on deciding
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 24 2023, 09:23 PM)
I'm still using CN ROM and do not intend to flash to Global ROM.
Why? Because CN ROM officially supports Google Play Services. It's just a toggle in the settings app.

To make it simple, ALL APPS ARE WORKING IN CN ROM. No issue with Gapps, banking apps etc.

Just take note - ALL Google services are working EXCEPT Google Location History (blocked by CCP) and "hey Google" voice activation.

Anyway, Motorola flashing is a bit tricky but I read that there is a way to flash Global ROM and relock the bootloader (so you can still receive software updates). I don't plan on doing this because there are plenty of features CN ROM has which are missing in Global ROM.

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U have issue with late notification on Whatsapp?? After restarting the device once?

Odd I can use location history on my map timeline though?? A different of A12 and A13 on CN Rom maybe?

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thank you so much for all the explainations regarding CN ROM vs global ROM.

hence, I will not flash to global ROM. 😬

Now i just waiting my phone to arrive.
Im using digi and plan to get extra gadget sim so that can share internet quota with my main phone.
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 24 2023, 09:36 PM)
thank you so much for all the explainations regarding CN ROM vs global ROM.

hence, I will not flash to global ROM. 😬

Now i just waiting my phone to arrive.
Im using digi and plan to get extra gadget sim so that can share internet quota with my main phone.
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No worries
How much did u get it?

Yes maybe as a second phone is better since the batt is small but if u want to use as hotspot maybe need to spare a power bank

😅
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i bought at fastech lim. 3691
maybe arrive around next week.

i dont think so it will be launch in Malaysia. so better I buy CN version.
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 24 2023, 09:32 PM)
U have issue with late notification on Whatsapp?? After restarting the device once?

Odd I can use location history on my map timeline though?? A different of A12 and A13 on CN Rom maybe?
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For delayed notification, this is due to the Google framework missing in CN ROMs (not just Motorola).

Motorola is smart so they came up with a solution -
MOTO DEVICE SHIELD.

You have to do ALL STEPS BELOW. ALL.

STEP # 1
Go to Settings > Device Shield > Utility Tools (LOWER RIGHT TAB)
App auto start menu
Enable the apps you want to auto start after restarting your phone.

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STEP # 2
Background running menu
Put the apps to Allow running in background.

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AND LASTLY

STEP # 3
Go to App info (example WhatsApp) and put the app to UNRESTRICTED.


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DONE.
NO DELAYED NOTIFICATION ISSUE. 10000% WORKING.

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You can use Google Maps device location but you cannot use Location History from this device. Those are 2 different things.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 24 2023, 09:51 PM)
For delayed notification, this is due to the Google framework missing in CN ROMs (not just Motorola).

Motorola is smart so they came up with a solution -
MOTO DEVICE SHIELD.

You have to do ALL STEPS BELOW. ALL.

STEP # 1
Go to Settings > Device Shield > Utility Tools (LOWER RIGHT TAB)
App auto start menu
Enable the apps you want to auto start after restarting your phone.

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STEP # 2
Background running menu
Put the apps to Allow running in background.

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AND LASTLY

STEP # 3
Go to App info (example WhatsApp) and put the app to UNRESTRICTED.
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DONE.
NO DELAYED NOTIFICATION ISSUE. 10000% WORKING.
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Couldn't find no #2 in setting though.. or is it somewhere else?
Background running menu right?


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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 24 2023, 10:02 PM)
@cruzzmz
You can use Google Maps device location but you cannot use Location History from this device. Those are 2 different things.

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Just checked same as mine

This is better 😀
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Couldn't find no #2 in setting though.. or is it somewhere else?
Background running menu right?
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Just received my package today.
Let me know what you guys wanna know ✌️

I'm using Digi Postpaid 150 and yes, 5G IS WORKING (see last picture).

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:08 AM)
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Got it 👍👍👍👍👍👍

I think we need to compare 2022 and 2023 camera hahahaha let's do a yumcha and take a shoot down soon

See what is the ai will look like when handling photo shoot


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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 25 2023, 12:52 PM)
Got it 👍👍👍👍👍👍

I think we need to compare 2022 and 2023 camera hahahaha let's do a yumcha and take a shoot down soon

See what is the ai will look like when handling photo shoot
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Have you tried whether Digi 5G is working on the Razr 2022? Honestly, I like the design of the 2022 more than the 40 Ultra.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 25 2023, 01:00 PM)
Have you tried whether Digi 5G is working on the Razr 2022? Honestly, I like the design of the 2022 more than the 40 Ultra.
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Didn't try it but I'm pretty sure 5g will work out of the box .. I'm on Celcom and it work well


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Didn't try it but I'm pretty sure 5g will work out of the box .. I'm on Celcom and it work well
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Actually this is a problem with Digi where they didn't whitelist moto phones for 5G. Even Moto phones officially sold in Malaysia (ex Edge 30 Pro, RAZR 5G) can't get 5G signal from Digi.
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 25 2023, 03:45 PM)
Actually this is a problem with Digi where they didn't whitelist moto phones for 5G. Even Moto phones officially sold in Malaysia (ex Edge 30 Pro, RAZR 5G) can't get 5G signal from Digi.
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Not sure but I don't think Celcom ever whitelist moto phones also
But this is just my 2 cents

Can't test since I don't have Digi to test

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 25 2023, 03:52 PM)
Not sure but I don't think Celcom ever whitelist moto phones also
But this is just my 2 cents

Can't test since I don't have Digi to test
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If only i can put my digi sim card to try 😭😂
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If only i can put my digi sim card to try 😭😂
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Need to find a friend that is on Digi and report back .. but need to make sure friend got 5g also right??

But a bit odd since I think the white list thing only with pixel phones

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 25 2023, 03:58 PM)
Need to find a friend that is on Digi and report back .. but need to make sure friend got 5g also right??

But a bit odd since I think the white list thing only with pixel phones
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Actually you can visit any Digi store and the tech support will insert their company SIM card on your phone.

Speaking of.. I might visit Digi to get e-SIM since this phone only supports 1 physical SIM card.
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 25 2023, 04:30 PM)
Actually you can visit any Digi store and the tech support will insert their company SIM card on your phone.

Speaking of.. I might visit Digi to get e-SIM since this phone only supports 1 physical SIM card.
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Sad to say if CN Rom which is available now it doesn't support esim or dual sim
Maybe wait for global Rom but flashing global Rom on CN device will have some issue .. at is boot loop after locking boot loader as mentioned in some forum
But can try if u are brave enough 😅
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 25 2023, 05:04 PM)
Sad to say if CN Rom which is available now it doesn't support esim or dual sim
Maybe wait for global Rom but flashing global Rom on CN device will have some issue .. at is boot loop after locking boot loader as mentioned in some forum
But can try if u are brave enough 😅
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It supports e-sim/dual sim without flashing to global ROM. You just need to insist with your telco to switch to e-sim although your phone is not in their compatible list. Tell them you WANT to switch to e-sim. They will just give you a QR code which you need to activate.
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 25 2023, 05:57 PM)
It supports e-sim/dual sim without flashing to global ROM. You just need to insist with your telco to switch to e-sim although your phone is not in their compatible list. Tell them you WANT to switch to e-sim. They will just give you a QR code which you need to activate.
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Yes I know how esim work as I am using yoodo on my other phone .. but u need to scan the qr code to add to your phone as of now I can't find the + sign in the network settings in razr 2022 .. not sure about 2023 though

Someone can check? The below one on my 2022 with no +

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This one on my pixel the + to add esim
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Or am I missing something???
I remember reading in one forum the EU one got the + sign to add esim

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My bad. I'll take back my word. As per Motorola China website, it's just single SIM with no eSIM support.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:53 PM)
My bad. I'll take back my word. As per Motorola China website, it's just single SIM with no eSIM support.

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For those who have the guts and want to try flashing global rom
RAZR 2023 Global ROM

model number XT2321-3

can try following this thread and it work for all Moto
Flash ROM

best of luck

or ask someone to flash it for you and then u use adb to change the channel that has OTA updates, like RETEU

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I'm still using CN ROM and do not intend to flash to Global ROM.
Why? Because CN ROM officially supports Google Play Services. It's just a toggle in the settings app.

To make it simple, ALL APPS ARE WORKING IN CN ROM. No issue with Gapps, banking apps etc.

Just take note - ALL Google services are working EXCEPT Google Location History (blocked by CCP) and "hey Google" voice activation.

Anyway, Motorola flashing is a bit tricky but I read that there is a way to flash Global ROM and relock the bootloader (so you can still receive software updates). I don't plan on doing this because there are plenty of features CN ROM has which are missing in Global ROM.

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Nice rclxms.gif just a toggle button to active PlayStore and Google Services. Google Location History is not really important and I dont use Hey Google as well. No point to risk flashing to global rom then.


Good info you got there. Btw, how much did you get your phone for?

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Nice  rclxms.gif  just a toggle button to active PlayStore and Google Services. Google Location History is not really important and I dont use Hey Google as well. No point to risk flashing to global rom then.
Good info you got there. Btw, how much did you get your phone for?
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RM3724 for the blue 256gb (black is actually cheaper by RM30 lol).

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i'll be waiting 11.11 offer for this phone. i have saved up enough to get myself the basic version but not the ultra version. i gotta replace my aging oneplus 8 with multiple fractures on the screen which i've been using for over a year.

hopefully global version available by then
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QUOTE(upcars @ Jun 26 2023, 12:00 PM)
i'll be waiting 11.11 offer for this phone. i have saved up enough to get myself the basic version but not the ultra version. i gotta replace my aging oneplus 8 with multiple fractures on the screen which i've been using for over a year.

hopefully global version available by then
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I suggest that instead of getting the "basic version" which I assume is Razr 40 (?), get last year's Razr 2022 because it is still cheaper.

RM3155 - 512gb
Flagship processor, camera and build.
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yes razr 40. i thought razr 40 is under 3k ?

got site for me to do tech comparison between razr 40 specs vs razr 2022 ?

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RM3724 for the blue 256gb (black is actually cheaper by RM30 lol).
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Nice.. how is the battery holding on? Can last a hold day with a full charge?
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Nice.. how is the battery holding on? Can last a hold day with a full charge?
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It can last a full day (auto refresh rate) but you cannot expect more than that. I feel that this is my main gripe given that all my previous Moto phones have excellent battery life.

I would need to tweak the refresh rate to 90hz max using ADB instead of the insane 165hz.
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Have you tried whether Digi 5G is working on the Razr 2022? Honestly, I like the design of the 2022 more than the 40 Ultra.
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I am on Digi 5g no issue, but at my house here hard to get 5g need go out to certain place bro haha.

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 26 2023, 12:58 PM)
Nice.. how is the battery holding on? Can last a hold day with a full charge?
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Battery can last 1 day depending how you use it bro. I just youtube and social apps no issue to tahan 1 day haha.
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QUOTE(upcars @ Jun 26 2023, 12:00 PM)
hopefully global version available by then
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By 11.11 there will be a lot of flip and fold already but it fall back to your budget ... Most likely moto won't be official in this region which is sad

Well for RAZR 2022 just Google RAZR 2022 GSMArena

QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 26 2023, 01:35 PM)
I am on Digi 5g no issue, but at my house here hard to get 5g need go out to certain place bro haha.
Battery can last 1 day depending how you use it bro. I just youtube and social apps no issue to tahan 1 day haha.
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Eh didn't u sold yours already 🤣
Waiting for new phone eh

Yes the batt will last a day the most with light moderate use

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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 26 2023, 01:35 PM)
I am on Digi 5g no issue, but at my house here hard to get 5g need go out to certain place bro haha.
Battery can last 1 day depending how you use it bro. I just youtube and social apps no issue to tahan 1 day haha.
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Thanks! I'm lucky enough my place has full 5G signal.
I'm getting 300Mbps speed from Digi which is even faster than my home wifi 😆

Btw, using Digi 5G hotspot will only output upto 10mpbs. I was hoping this can replace my home internet. Lol
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 26 2023, 03:36 PM)
Thanks! I'm lucky enough my place has full 5G signal.
I'm getting 300Mbps speed from Digi which is even faster than my home wifi 😆

Btw, using Digi 5G hotspot will only output upto 10mpbs. I was hoping this can replace my home internet. Lol
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Hotspot i think goes back to your phone wifi support.. but not sure also Telco might throttle that too

But I'm getting this on Celcom with hotspot .. on both devices support wifi6
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 26 2023, 01:24 PM)
It can last a full day (auto refresh rate) but you cannot expect more than that. I feel that this is my main gripe given that all my previous Moto phones have excellent battery life.

I would need to tweak the refresh rate to 90hz max using ADB instead of the insane 165hz.
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Haha... 165Hz just sounds good on paper. Im sure we could barely tell the difference btw 120hz and 165hz. 90hz cannot la...Its like driving a ferrari but only filling it up with Ron 95.


QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 26 2023, 01:35 PM)
I am on Digi 5g no issue, but at my house here hard to get 5g need go out to certain place bro haha.
Battery can last 1 day depending how you use it bro. I just youtube and social apps no issue to tahan 1 day haha.
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Haha... Im quite a heavy user on my OP9R with 4500mah battery. It could last me a day. Not sure if 3800mah battery on the Razr40 Ultra could take the beating.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 26 2023, 04:23 PM)
Haha... 165Hz just sounds good on paper. Im sure we could barely tell the difference btw 120hz and 165hz. 90hz cannot la...Its like driving a ferrari but only filling it up with Ron 95.
Haha... Im quite a heavy user on my OP9R with 4500mah battery. It could last me a day. Not sure if 3800mah battery on the Razr40 Ultra could take the beating.
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120 is still ok .. but for ext screen maybe 90 or 60 is just nice whistling.gif
see how on the small bat if it can last u as much as your OP9R ... heavy use of?
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 26 2023, 04:40 PM)
120 is still ok .. but for ext screen maybe 90 or 60 is just nice  whistling.gif
see how on the small bat if it can last u as much as your OP9R ... heavy use of?
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TBH 120hz is a battery killer. Still 90hz would be best. But can't go back to 90hz once you are used to 120hz. Im actually quite surprised Motorola didnt enable the feature to turn back the display to 90hz.

The 0P9R is my daily driver for work. So yeah....

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 26 2023, 05:27 PM)
TBH 120hz is a battery killer. Still 90hz would be best. But can't go back to 90hz once you are used to 120hz. Im actually quite surprised Motorola didnt enable the feature to turn back the display to 90hz.

The 0P9R is my daily driver for work. So yeah....
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U can try batt saver .. it will drop to the slowest Hz .. on 2022 it will go to 60 I think

So u use razr as second phone? Then it should be ok in term of a day batt life
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 26 2023, 03:50 PM)
Hotspot i think goes back to your phone wifi support.. but not sure also Telco might throttle that too

But I'm getting this on Celcom with hotspot .. on both devices support wifi6
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I installed Speedtest app and it's showing me unthrottled speeds of upto 300mbps but when I test using Fast.com, it's showing me 10mbps download.

So Digi isn't throttling the speeds afterall.
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Haha... 165Hz just sounds good on paper. Im sure we could barely tell the difference btw 120hz and 165hz. 90hz cannot la...Its like driving a ferrari but only filling it up with Ron 95.
Haha... Im quite a heavy user on my OP9R with 4500mah battery. It could last me a day. Not sure if 3800mah battery on the Razr40 Ultra could take the beating.
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Then for sure u need to charge 2 times a day bro haha.
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Now wait get mi 13 u this week haha
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 26 2023, 07:43 PM)
U can try batt saver .. it will drop to the slowest Hz .. on 2022 it will go to 60 I think

So u use razr as second phone? Then it should be ok in term of a day batt life
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Nope... going to use it as my main daily driver.

QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 26 2023, 08:28 PM)
Then for sure u need to charge 2 times a day bro haha.
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That is why I thinking twice now. sweat.gif

QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 26 2023, 08:28 PM)
Now wait get mi 13 u this week haha
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I used to be like you last time bro... but I stopped doing that already. Signs of growing old. sweat.gif
Im lazy to mod/flash here and there. I just want a stable phone, OS Im used to. No fuss, no funny issues. Just working good straight out of the box.
One of the reasons I have stucked to Oneplus and Iphones all these while.

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 26 2023, 09:39 PM)
Nope... going to use it as my main daily driver.
That is why I thinking twice now.  sweat.gif
I used to be like you last time bro... but I stopped doing that already. Signs of growing old. sweat.gif
Im lazy to mod/flash here and there. I just want a stable phone, OS Im used to. No fuss, no funny issues. Just working good straight out of the box.
One of the reasons I have stucked to Oneplus and Iphones all these while.
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Daily driver might be tough since if heavy usr may need to standby Powerbank or charger 😅
OnePlus V is coming soon 🤣

Well I still prefer pixel but no 5g though
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Daily driver might be tough since if heavy usr may need to standby Powerbank or charger 😅
OnePlus V is coming soon 🤣

Well I still prefer pixel but no 5g though
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I wouldn't touch that with a pole as well. No local support, no warranty, No 5G, no VolTE and Vowifi which is a pain in the arse. Pay top dollar for a half functioning phone. No thanks.
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My first CN phone and have no idea what to do first like Google Play side load installation ...currently using S23 U.

Any advice is really appreciated...1 week waiting from Fastech
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 26 2023, 11:01 PM)
I wouldn't touch that with a pole as well. No local support, no warranty, No 5G, no VolTE and Vowifi which is a pain in the arse. Pay top dollar for a half functioning phone. No thanks.
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Nope the volte works out of the box

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My first CN phone and have no idea what to do first like Google Play side load installation ...currently using S23 U.

Any advice is really appreciated...1 week waiting from Fastech
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There will be a toggle to enable play service.. u need to just install Google play ... Also maybe contact sync if u are syncing your contacts that is on Google cloud
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My first CN phone and have no idea what to do first like Google Play side load installation ...currently using S23 U.

Any advice is really appreciated...1 week waiting from Fastech
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TO ALL NEW MOTO CN ROM USERS
Instruction on how to enable GMS and enable push notifications (no delayed WhatsApp, Messenger notifications, etc)

Turn on Google Play Services:
1. Go to Settings > System > Google Play Services
2. Turn ON (it will ask you to login your Google Account)
3. Ensure account sync is ON
3. Done


Turn on Location (this is a MUST as apps require location enabled)
1. Go to Settings > Location
2. Turn ON
3. Done

Download Google Play from App Center
1. Open App Center
2. Search for "Google Play" and download.
3. Do NOT download any Google app from App center. Do it from Play Store.
4. Open Play Store (and login to your account)
5. Download all relevant Google apps first.
- GOOGLE (search for "GOOGLE" app
- GMAIL
- DRIVE
- KEEP NOTES
- YOUTUBE
- PHOTOS
- MAPS
- GOOGLE CALENDAR (why? see below)

How to sync your Google calendar to the stock Moto "CALENDAR" app (ex. Malaysia public holiday, your tasks, etc)
1. Download Google Calendar
2. Open the app and let is sync
3. Open Moto "Calendar" app (orange color)
4. The app will ask you which accounts you want to be visible (I select Holidays in Malaysia and my GMail account).
5. Deselect PC Sync (kinda useless and won't sync to any)
6. Done
7. UNINSTALL Google Calendar (you don't need this anymore as your account is already synced)

Check whether Google Contacts is sync to Moto Contacts (for older Moto CN phones and if you cannot see your contacts)
1. Open "Contacts" app
2. Check if your contacts are there
3. If not, download "Google Contacts Sync apk" -- Where? Google is your friend.


For delayed notification, this is due to the Google framework missing in CN ROMs (not just Motorola).

Motorola is smart so they came up with a solution -
MOTO DEVICE SHIELD.


You have to do ALL STEPS BELOW. ALL.

STEP # 1
Go to Settings > Device Shield > Utility Tools (LOWER RIGHT TAB)
App auto start menu
Enable the apps you want to auto start after restarting your phone.

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STEP # 2
Background running menu
Put the apps to Allow running in background.

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AND LASTLY

STEP # 3
Go to App info (example WhatsApp) and put the app to UNRESTRICTED.


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DONE.
NO DELAYED NOTIFICATION ISSUE. 10000% WORKING.

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Really appreciate for the guide....the phone is too sexy to ignore ..
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TO ALL NEW MOTO CN ROM USERS
Instruction on how to enable GMS and enable push notifications (no delayed WhatsApp, Messenger notifications, etc)

Turn on Google Play Services:
1. Go to Settings > System > Google Play Services
2. Turn ON (it will ask you to login your Google Account)
3. Ensure account sync is ON
3. Done
Turn on Location (this is a MUST as apps require location enabled)
1. Go to Settings > Location
2. Turn ON
3. Done

Download Google Play from App Center
1. Open App Center
2. Search for "Google Play" and download.
3. Do NOT download any Google app from App center. Do it from Play Store.
4. Open Play Store (and login to your account)
5. Download all relevant Google apps first.
- GOOGLE (search for "GOOGLE" app
- GMAIL
- DRIVE
- KEEP NOTES
- YOUTUBE
- PHOTOS
- MAPS
- GOOGLE CALENDAR (why? see below)

How to sync your Google calendar to the stock Moto "CALENDAR" app (ex. Malaysia public holiday, your tasks, etc)
1. Download Google Calendar
2. Open the app and let is sync
3. Open Moto "Calendar" app (orange color)
4. The app will ask you which accounts you want to be visible (I select Holidays in Malaysia and my GMail account).
5. Deselect PC Sync (kinda useless and won't sync to any)
6. Done
7. UNINSTALL Google Calendar (you don't need this anymore as your account is already synced)

Check whether Google Contacts is sync to Moto Contacts (for older Moto CN phones and if you cannot see your contacts)
1. Open "Contacts" app
2. Check if your contacts are there
3. If not, download "Google Contacts Sync apk" -- Where? Google is your friend.
For delayed notification, this is due to the Google framework missing in CN ROMs (not just Motorola).

Motorola is smart so they came up with a solution -
MOTO DEVICE SHIELD.


You have to do ALL STEPS BELOW. ALL.

STEP # 1
Go to Settings > Device Shield > Utility Tools (LOWER RIGHT TAB)
App auto start menu
Enable the apps you want to auto start after restarting your phone.

user posted image

STEP # 2
Background running menu
Put the apps to Allow running in background.

user posted image

AND LASTLY

STEP # 3
Go to App info (example WhatsApp) and put the app to UNRESTRICTED.
user posted image

DONE.
NO DELAYED NOTIFICATION ISSUE. 10000% WORKING.
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Good instructions
I think work on any CN phone except Huawei since US block all Google services

Yes I need to install contact sync APK 🤣 other than that work just fine

Also the device shield thingy need to be done to Whatsapp in my case others just works fine

Can the thread starter put this guide on the first post???
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 27 2023, 07:01 AM)
Nope the volte works out of the box
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Some have reported it works some work. Its like a hit and miss too. Some have reported after updating VoLTE doesn't work. But there is a workaround for VolTE for now.

QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 27 2023, 08:40 AM)
TO ALL NEW MOTO CN ROM USERS
Instruction on how to enable GMS and enable push notifications (no delayed WhatsApp, Messenger notifications, etc)

Turn on Google Play Services:
1. Go to Settings > System > Google Play Services
2. Turn ON (it will ask you to login your Google Account)
3. Ensure account sync is ON
3. Done
Turn on Location (this is a MUST as apps require location enabled)
1. Go to Settings > Location
2. Turn ON
3. Done

Download Google Play from App Center
1. Open App Center
2. Search for "Google Play" and download.
3. Do NOT download any Google app from App center. Do it from Play Store.
4. Open Play Store (and login to your account)
5. Download all relevant Google apps first.
- GOOGLE (search for "GOOGLE" app
- GMAIL
- DRIVE
- KEEP NOTES
- YOUTUBE
- PHOTOS
- MAPS
- GOOGLE CALENDAR (why? see below)

How to sync your Google calendar to the stock Moto "CALENDAR" app (ex. Malaysia public holiday, your tasks, etc)
1. Download Google Calendar
2. Open the app and let is sync
3. Open Moto "Calendar" app (orange color)
4. The app will ask you which accounts you want to be visible (I select Holidays in Malaysia and my GMail account).
5. Deselect PC Sync (kinda useless and won't sync to any)
6. Done
7. UNINSTALL Google Calendar (you don't need this anymore as your account is already synced)

Check whether Google Contacts is sync to Moto Contacts (for older Moto CN phones and if you cannot see your contacts)
1. Open "Contacts" app
2. Check if your contacts are there
3. If not, download "Google Contacts Sync apk" -- Where? Google is your friend.
For delayed notification, this is due to the Google framework missing in CN ROMs (not just Motorola).

Motorola is smart so they came up with a solution -
MOTO DEVICE SHIELD.


You have to do ALL STEPS BELOW. ALL.

STEP # 1
Go to Settings > Device Shield > Utility Tools (LOWER RIGHT TAB)
App auto start menu
Enable the apps you want to auto start after restarting your phone.

user posted image

STEP # 2
Background running menu
Put the apps to Allow running in background.

user posted image

AND LASTLY

STEP # 3
Go to App info (example WhatsApp) and put the app to UNRESTRICTED.
user posted image

DONE.
NO DELAYED NOTIFICATION ISSUE. 10000% WORKING.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 27 2023, 03:25 PM)
Some have reported it works some work. Its like a hit and miss too. Some have reported after updating VoLTE doesn't work. But there is a workaround for VolTE for now.
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For volte it worked after Mac update
Vowofi got workaround

5g need to root and use software mod
😅

Btw the above instructions works on 2022 also ya .. if anyone wants to buy it since it is cheaper now 😄

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 27 2023, 03:37 PM)
For volte it worked after Mac update
Vowofi got workaround

5g need to root and use software mod
😅

Btw the above instructions works on 2022 also ya .. if anyone wants to buy it since it is cheaper now 😄
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You mean enabling VoWifi using the Shizuku app isit?

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 26 2023, 09:39 PM)
Nope... going to use it as my main daily driver.
That is why I thinking twice now.  sweat.gif
I used to be like you last time bro... but I stopped doing that already. Signs of growing old. sweat.gif
Im lazy to mod/flash here and there. I just want a stable phone, OS Im used to. No fuss, no funny issues. Just working good straight out of the box.
One of the reasons I have stucked to Oneplus and Iphones all these while.
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I getting local set sure no issue haha. Ya seems like it getting too old to keep changing phones also.
I thinking ZenFone 10 will be my last phone for this yr.
Where your best friend from Samsung thread bro ? I forgot what his nick. You two always chatting in Samsung thread I remember 😁
Ya I phone I agreed is a good phone for daily normal use.
Last yr Nov I got myself a 14 pro, use 2 months then sold to my sister and got oppo find N2. 😂

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You meanenabling VoWifi using the Shizuku app isit?
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yes

QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 27 2023, 03:49 PM)
I getting local set sure no issue haha. Ya seems like it getting too old to keep changing phones also.
I thinking ZenFone 10 will be my last phone for this yr.
Where your best friend from Samsung thread bro ? I forgot what his nick. You two always chatting in Samsung thread I remember 😁
Ya I phone I agreed is a good phone for daily normal use.
Last yr Nov I got myself a 14 pro, use 2 months then sold to my sister and got oppo find N2. 😂
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you sure u can tahan meh sweat.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 27 2023, 08:40 AM)
TO ALL NEW MOTO CN ROM USERS
Instruction on how to enable GMS and enable push notifications (no delayed WhatsApp, Messenger notifications, etc)

Turn on Google Play Services:
1. Go to Settings > System > Google Play Services
2. Turn ON (it will ask you to login your Google Account)
3. Ensure account sync is ON
3. Done
Turn on Location (this is a MUST as apps require location enabled)
1. Go to Settings > Location
2. Turn ON
3. Done

Download Google Play from App Center
1. Open App Center
2. Search for "Google Play" and download.
3. Do NOT download any Google app from App center. Do it from Play Store.
4. Open Play Store (and login to your account)
5. Download all relevant Google apps first.
- GOOGLE (search for "GOOGLE" app
- GMAIL
- DRIVE
- KEEP NOTES
- YOUTUBE
- PHOTOS
- MAPS
- GOOGLE CALENDAR (why? see below)

How to sync your Google calendar to the stock Moto "CALENDAR" app (ex. Malaysia public holiday, your tasks, etc)
1. Download Google Calendar
2. Open the app and let is sync
3. Open Moto "Calendar" app (orange color)
4. The app will ask you which accounts you want to be visible (I select Holidays in Malaysia and my GMail account).
5. Deselect PC Sync (kinda useless and won't sync to any)
6. Done
7. UNINSTALL Google Calendar (you don't need this anymore as your account is already synced)

Check whether Google Contacts is sync to Moto Contacts (for older Moto CN phones and if you cannot see your contacts)
1. Open "Contacts" app
2. Check if your contacts are there
3. If not, download "Google Contacts Sync apk" -- Where? Google is your friend.
For delayed notification, this is due to the Google framework missing in CN ROMs (not just Motorola).

Motorola is smart so they came up with a solution -
MOTO DEVICE SHIELD.


You have to do ALL STEPS BELOW. ALL.

STEP # 1
Go to Settings > Device Shield > Utility Tools (LOWER RIGHT TAB)
App auto start menu
Enable the apps you want to auto start after restarting your phone.

user posted image

STEP # 2
Background running menu
Put the apps to Allow running in background.

user posted image

AND LASTLY

STEP # 3
Go to App info (example WhatsApp) and put the app to UNRESTRICTED.
user posted image

DONE.
NO DELAYED NOTIFICATION ISSUE. 10000% WORKING.
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Thank you so much! really helpful!

Btw, i got some questions (my first android phone):

1. After I choose english as main language, I noticed some of the apps still in chinese. is it normal? even the web browser and App centre. haha. I cannot read it.

2. Which native apps should I delete and not beneficial? Im afraid if I delete so many apps (in chinese wording), suddenly it important and cannot download it again. The App centre still need to keep after downloading the Google play?

3. does razr 40 ultra need screen protector for internal and external screen?

Thank you in advance.
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 27 2023, 03:49 PM)
I getting local set sure no issue haha. Ya seems like it getting too old to keep changing phones also.
I thinking ZenFone 10 will be my last phone for this yr.
Where your best friend from Samsung thread bro ? I forgot what his nick. You two always chatting in Samsung thread I remember 😁
Ya I phone I agreed is a good phone for daily normal use.
Last yr Nov I got myself a 14 pro, use 2 months then sold to my sister and got oppo find N2. 😂
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Ya bro... changed so many phones for so many years already. Tired already. Now just want something good, stable and everything works out of the box. Really lazy to do research and mod here and there. But I still have to do it for my Oneplus 9R now which would be my very last Oneplus phone after so many donkey years supporting them. Im still on OP because Im so used to OOS but I think its time to change because the company has totally shifted its direction.

The best bet on Android now would still be the Samsung Galaxy S23 series. This is for those who don't want to bother meddling on the phone. Just buy, open box and use.

Iphone and IOS is still more polished in terms of hardware and apps as well as being more secure IMO. That is why I have another 14 PM as a daily driver.
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 27 2023, 05:28 PM)
Thank you so much! really helpful!

Btw, i got some questions (my first android phone):

1. After I choose english as main language, I noticed some of the apps still in chinese. is it normal? even the web browser and App centre. haha. I cannot read it.

2. Which native apps should I delete and not beneficial? Im afraid if I delete so many apps (in chinese wording), suddenly it important and cannot download it again. The App centre still need to keep after downloading the Google play?

3. does razr 40 ultra need screen protector for internal and external screen?

Thank you in advance.
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i try to answer based on my experience

1. Yes because CN version. Use other browser and install play store

2. All CN one hahaha ... no need to keep the app center

3. it is up to you, the only SP is the hydrogel type ... last time i put one in and out but eventually i take it off

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jun 27 2023, 06:12 PM)
Ya bro... changed so many phones for so many years already. Tired already. Now just want something good, stable and everything works out of the box. Really lazy to do research and mod here and there. But I still have to do it for my Oneplus 9R now which would be my very last Oneplus phone after so many donkey years supporting them. Im still on OP because Im so used to OOS but I think its time to change because the company has totally shifted its direction.

The best bet on Android now would still be the Samsung Galaxy S23 series. This is for those who don't want to bother meddling on the phone. Just buy, open box and use.

Iphone and IOS is still more polished in terms of hardware and apps as well as being more secure IMO. That is why I have another 14 PM as a daily driver.
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I get you bro ... now i only change phone 2-3 yrs once
I like OP also ... maybe ill take another shot when OP V fold is out later ... see if the price is right lah sweat.gif whistling.gif ... getting old need a bigger screen hahaha

To be frank i dont like ios ... tried once can only tahan a week

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 27 2023, 07:01 PM)
i try to answer based on my experience

1. Yes because CN version. Use other browser and install play store

2. All CN one hahaha ... no need to keep the app center

3. it is up to you, the only SP is the hydrogel type ... last time i put one in and out but eventually i take it off
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Hydrogel/silicone type SP are a nono. It makes the whole touch screen experience go bad.
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Btw, how can I sign up for Lenovo ID?
Im trying to use wallet app. but need to log in Lenovo ID.
When I try to sign up, the phone no cannot change to Malaysia code. only China code.
Anyone got suggestions?
thank you in advance
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 28 2023, 11:45 AM)
Btw, how can I sign up for Lenovo ID?
Im trying to use wallet app. but need to log in Lenovo ID.
When I try to sign up, the phone no cannot change to Malaysia code. only China code.
Anyone got suggestions?
thank you in advance
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Can you try the website to register the ID?
i didnt remember how did i register for it though sweat.gif
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 28 2023, 11:45 AM)
Btw, how can I sign up for Lenovo ID?
Im trying to use wallet app. but need to log in Lenovo ID.
When I try to sign up, the phone no cannot change to Malaysia code. only China code.
Anyone got suggestions?
thank you in advance
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I also can't. We need a valid China mobile number to register.
Of course we can register a Lenovo account but that is for global use. Lenovo ID = Lenovo China account.

Btw, you can still use wallet without signing in.
Turn on NFC and tap your card behind the phone. Wallet will automatically open.
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I also can't. We need a valid China mobile number to register.
Of course we can register a Lenovo account but that is for global use. Lenovo ID = Lenovo China account.

Btw, you can still use wallet without signing in.
Turn on NFC and tap your card behind the phone. Wallet will automatically open.
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You can register the card and use it?
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https://youtu.be/BhJodYC5TwM

2:10 - Something to take note of.
There is some wiggle when you move sideways.
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 29 2023, 01:39 AM)
https://youtu.be/BhJodYC5TwM

2:10 - Something to take note of.
There is some wiggle when you move sideways.
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How about your phone ...do u face with the same issue like the one in the video

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How about your phone ...do u face with the same issue like the one in the video
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Yes. Not a deal breaker because the phone is sturdy (not loose) when opened. It's just that you can feel the friction when folded and you try to rub the 2 halves.

Btw, the "rubbing" is very very minimal. You will only notice it when you intentionally rub them

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jun 29 2023, 01:39 AM)
https://youtu.be/BhJodYC5TwM

2:10 - Something to take note of.
There is some wiggle when you move sideways.
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thankfully the unit that I bought from badboy77 doesn't have this wiggle problem. phone is very solid overall bruce.gif

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thanksfully the unit that I bought from badboy77 doesn't have this wiggle problem. phone is very solid overall  bruce.gif
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I'm over exaggerating the "wiggle". It's more like feeling friction of 2 flat surfaces. I've checked the Oppo N2 Flip in Oppo store and they have the same "wiggle". Lol
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thankfully the unit that I bought from badboy77 doesn't have this wiggle problem. phone is very solid overall  bruce.gif
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thankfully the unit that I bought from badboy77 doesn't have this wiggle problem. phone is very solid overall  bruce.gif
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QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jun 29 2023, 10:58 PM)
thankfully the unit that I bought from badboy77 doesn't have this wiggle problem. phone is very solid overall  bruce.gif
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Main phone or second?? Sold your iphone already??
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 30 2023, 08:50 AM)
Main phone or second?? Sold your iphone already??
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my main phone haha, my previous phone wasn't an iphone laaa, it was a OP7pro only sweat.gif
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QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jun 30 2023, 02:58 PM)
my main phone haha, my previous phone wasn't an iphone laaa, it was a OP7pro only  sweat.gif
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Any feedback on the battery life ..how often that u have to charge in a day
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Any feedback on the battery life ..how often that u have to charge in a day
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Ya need a comment on this too since it is the main phone
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jun 30 2023, 04:05 PM)
Any feedback on the battery life ..how often that u have to charge in a day
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Before for my use i use mostly youtube no gaming by evening need charge.
I am talking about at least 3 hrs YT and social
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jun 30 2023, 06:23 PM)
Before for my use i use mostly youtube no gaming by evening need charge.
I am talking about at least 3 hrs YT and social
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Then it will be ok for me even as a main phone, as I never gaming and hardly take any photos too...just using it for phone and messaging functions ...3 hours id consider good enough for me ...
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jun 30 2023, 10:20 PM)
Then it will be ok for me even as a main phone, as I never gaming and hardly take any photos too...just using it for phone and messaging functions ...3 hours id consider good enough for me ...
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Then its good to go haha
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jun 30 2023, 10:20 PM)
Then it will be ok for me even as a main phone, as I never gaming and hardly take any photos too...just using it for phone and messaging functions ...3 hours id consider good enough for me ...
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If that is the case with no YouTube and music stream then it is a day worth I think
Unless u have like WhatsApp msg every single minute 😅
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jun 30 2023, 04:05 PM)
Any feedback on the battery life ..how often that u have to charge in a day
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no battery life problem for me, i only charge it once a day before i goto bed. i'm a very light user, only used for messaging and browsing social media. biggrin.gif

i also mainly use the external screen alot due to convenience, so that also doesn't consume battery alot. sometimes i only use about 30% of battery a day haha
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jun 30 2023, 05:03 PM)
Ya need a comment on this too since it is the main phone
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Battery life is OK. If you come from a flagship Moto or any flagship Android, I'd say don't expect much. It will last a day from full charge.

What bothers me is the relatively "slow" 30w charging but you will only notice if you come from a phone using a 68w or 100w++ charger. Charging speed is definitely a downgrade for me.
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Just collected my 512gb version from fast tech subang....

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Just collected my 512gb version from fast tech subang....
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Wohooo! Congrats! Is that a black unit?
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Wohooo! Congrats! Is that a black unit?
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Blue color...my first CN phone....

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 1 2023, 03:29 PM)
Battery life is OK. If you come from a flagship Moto or any flagship Android, I'd say don't expect much. It will last a day from full charge.

What bothers me is the relatively "slow" 30w charging but you will only notice if you come from a phone using a 68w or 100w++ charger. Charging speed is definitely a downgrade for me.
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This one can't complain lah 🤣
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QUOTE(syukry @ Jun 28 2023, 11:45 AM)
Btw, how can I sign up for Lenovo ID?
Im trying to use wallet app. but need to log in Lenovo ID.
When I try to sign up, the phone no cannot change to Malaysia code. only China code.
Anyone got suggestions?
thank you in advance
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My wallet is working fine...I just use my email ID for Lenovo to log in ..I believe that u had missed that step during the set up of the new phone by changing the log in option to email instead of the sms through phone no.
Firstly, just register a valid Lenovo ID at the Lenovo website and use the same ID to for your phone registration ID under Lenovo account.
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I can confirm that 5G is working ok out of the box for Unifi mobile with this China version phone.

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Fastech will have an updated price in a few days.
RED colour will also be available on the next price list.

Btw, coming from previous Moto flagship devices, I can say this has the best camera image processing to date.

The colours are not overly contrast/not dark. It is warm and somewhat similar to iPhone's image processing especially the skin tone.

Since this phone has f1.5 aperture, images are actually brighter compared to other phones.

All previous Moto phones (Edge 30 Pro, 30 Ultra etc) have this dark, contrasty look that makes you look old and shadows too dark.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:43 PM)
Fastech will have an updated price in a few days.
RED colour will also be available on the next price list.

Btw, coming from previous Moto flagship devices, I can say this has the best camera image processing to day.

The colours are not overly contrast/not dark. It is warm and somewhat similar to iPhone's image processing especially the skin tone.

Since this phone has f1.5 aperture, images are actually brighter compared to other phones.

All previous Moto phones (Edge 30 Pro, 30 Ultra etc) have this dark, contrasty look that makes you look old and shadows too dark.
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Would love to compare the pictures with the 2022 and see the image processing advances after a year with smaller MP cam

hopefully the price getting cheaper ???

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Would love to compare the pictures with the 2022 and see the image processing advances after a year with smaller MP cam

hopefully the price getting cheaper ???
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Razr 2022's 50MP main camera is the same exact Omnivision sensor from the Edge 30 Pro and Edge 30 Pro. It's a great sensor with ultra fast autofocus but the image processing used by Moto in those phones have a different mood.

My best guess is the price of the razr 40 Ultra will go up 😂 especially the 512gb variant. Not by much but around RM50-80.

I hope I'm wrong but knowing Fastech, that's how Moto phones are priced.

If you want to buy this phone but your budget cannot exceed ~3k, wait for 6-7 months. By January you will see the 256gb variant will be around that price. Maybe just in time for CNY shopping 😂
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Maybe I should get that red color and sell my current 3 days old blue color one at Carousel
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Maybe I should get that red color and sell my current 3 days old blue color one at Carousel
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Maybe I should get that red color and sell my current 3 days old blue color one at Carousel
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Maybe I should get that red color and sell my current 3 days old blue color one at Carousel
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I already know the price and you won't like it cool2.gif
Red = way more expensive than the other 2 colours

Reason: Motorola had to pay a huge amount to Pantone for this collaboration.

Edit:
One more thing -- according to Fastech, there will another color variant aside from the Pantone Red.
I am not sure how reliable this is but it will be another hue of red without the Pantone branding.

Also, according to their source, if the Pantone Red 512gb isn't selling well, they will release a 256gb version of the Red (which is currently not available).

Motorola is preparing for the release of the Galaxy Flip 5 so wait for a few months and their might be a significant price drop.

Although to be fair with Motorola China, the Razr 40 Ultra is considered bang-for-the-buck with all the latest tech and features especially the high resolution HDR10+ 10bit 144hz high refresh rate cover display.

I am pretty sure Flip 5's cover display will be inferior compared to the Razr.

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So I just checked today - the Razr 40 Ultra and Galaxy Z Flip 4 have the same 12.2 main camera sensor -- Sony IMX563 with dual pixel autofocus.

The difference: aperture.
Razr = f1.5
Flip = f1.8

Also, Razr's ultrawide camera only has 108 degrees. It's great as there is no warping/fisheye effect which looks like you have the arms of Mr. Fantastic when taking group selfies.
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I already know the price and you won't like it cool2.gif
Red = way more expensive than the other 2 colours

Reason: Motorola had to pay a huge amount to Pantone for this collaboration.

Edit:
One more thing -- according to Fastech, there will another color variant aside from the Pantone Red.
I am not sure how reliable this is but it will be another hue of red without the Pantone branding.

Also, according to their source, if the Pantone Red 512gb isn't selling well, they will release a 256gb version of the Red (which is currently not available).

Motorola is preparing for the release of the Galaxy Flip 5 so wait for a few months and their might be a significant price drop.

Although to be fair with Motorola China, the Razr 40 Ultra is considered bang-for-the-buck with all the latest tech and features especially the high resolution HDR10+ 10bit 144hz high refresh rate cover display.

I am pretty sure Flip 5's cover display will be inferior compared to the Razr.
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Sell cheap cheap ya hahaha
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5390526

This guy drop price from 4k - 3.6k for a 512gb
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5390526

This guy drop price from 4k - 3.6k for a 512gb
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5390526

This guy drop price from 4k - 3.6k for a 512gb
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jul 4 2023, 07:42 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5390526

This guy drop price from 4k - 3.6k for a 512gb
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How about the warranty...as the 512gb is only available for China market.

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5390526

This guy drop price from 4k - 3.6k for a 512gb
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Considered no warranty unless you want to send to reseller in Sg. Better buy from local reseller here.
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How about the warranty...as the 512gb is only available for China market.
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Yup headache later if want to send back .. unless u live in jb
He put same advert in carousell .. it was 4k+ before

QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jul 4 2023, 07:42 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5390526

This guy drop price from 4k - 3.6k for a 512gb
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maybe he wants to buy Zenphone 10 too hahaha

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Previously i bought from this guy for the oppo find N, his receipt also don't have haha. Gave his own receipt bangwall.gif
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Previously i bought from this guy for the oppo find N, his receipt also don't have haha. Gave his own receipt  bangwall.gif
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what kind of receipt he gave u ???
lucky for u your unit is not lemon one
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what kind of receipt he gave u ???
lucky for u your unit is not lemon one
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His receipt was some beauty saloon type haha. But then later I sold the phone to my friend. Not lemon unit haha.
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jul 5 2023, 01:09 PM)
His receipt was some beauty saloon type haha. But then later I sold the phone to my friend. Not lemon unit haha.
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Hahaha...should ask for free massage...imagine that u will be getting free massage for a life if something bad happen to your phone

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New price Fastech Lim

Motorola Razr 40 ultra CN 🔥🔥 NEW MODEL
~8/256 black/blue 3658
~12/512black/blue 3920
~12/512 red 4057

Motorola Razr 40 CN 🔥🔥 NEW MODEL
~8/256 gray/red 2864 white 2832
~12/256 gray 3060 white 3028 red 3093

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your friend can give cheaper or not sweat.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 5 2023, 04:27 PM)
New price Fastech Lim

Motorola Razr 40 ultra CN 🔥🔥 NEW MODEL
~8/256 black/blue 3658
~12/512black/blue 3920
~12/512 red 4057

Motorola Razr 40 CN 🔥🔥 NEW MODEL
~8/256 gray/red 2864 white 2832
~12/256 gray 3060 white 3028 red 3093

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your friend can give cheaper or not  sweat.gif  whistling.gif
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Don't know need ask haha
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Later ask him about OP V 🤣

Bro dowan to change to nothing 2 🫢🤔

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Later ask him about OP V 🤣

Bro dowan to change to nothing 2 🫢🤔
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not interested in nothing phone la bro haha
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 5 2023, 09:10 PM)
Later ask him about OP V 🤣

Bro dowan to change to nothing 2 🫢🤔
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What is so special about this phone beside the disco light .... Surprisingly.. it will come with the Snapdragon gen 1 ike the RAZR (but other rumors mentioned gen2+).

By the way, just received several cheapo casings for the RAZR


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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 5 2023, 04:27 PM)
New price Fastech Lim

Motorola Razr 40 ultra CN 🔥🔥 NEW MODEL
~8/256 black/blue 3658
~12/512black/blue 3920
~12/512 red 4057

Motorola Razr 40 CN 🔥🔥 NEW MODEL
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your friend can give cheaper or not  sweat.gif  whistling.gif
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Extra Rm130 for the red. Not too bad la. But would still got for the blue. tongue.gif

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not interested in nothing phone la bro haha
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Nothing 2? Midranger with Mid Range Specs. Medicore Performance for everything. Not your cup of tea.
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What is so special about this phone beside the disco light .... Surprisingly.. it will come with the Snapdragon gen 1 ike the RAZR (but other rumors mentioned gen2+).

By the way, just received several cheapo casings for the RAZR
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So many case .. change every day ?
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Any good deals for the 40 Ultra for 7/7?
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 5 2023, 09:48 PM)
What is so special about this phone beside the disco light .... Surprisingly.. it will come with the Snapdragon gen 1 ike the RAZR (but other rumors mentioned gen2+).

By the way, just received several cheapo casings for the RAZR
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Your razr won't fully close if the you use that case.
Motorola's stock case can close fully because the thickness of the case is the same as the black borders surrounding the 6.9 inch display.
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Any good deals for the 40 Ultra for 7/7?
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Fastech is not dependent on 7.7, 8.8 etc deals because the price will directly come from the Chinese suppliers.

I can say everyday is a good deal with Fastech 😂

Fastech's price - ~4k 512gb
Other sellers in Shopee - 4.5k+ 512gb
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So many case .. change every day ?
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Cheap case ..needs to purchase several cases for more than rm40 to take advantage of RM10 coupon from Shopey
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 6 2023, 12:55 PM)
Fastech is not dependent on 7.7, 8.8 etc deals because the price will directly come from the Chinese suppliers.

I can say everyday is a good deal with Fastech 😂

Fastech's price - ~4k 512gb
Other sellers in Shopee - 4.5k+ 512gb
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Haha... I heard that it takes 1 week at least for his set to arrive right?
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 6 2023, 12:53 PM)
Your razr won't fully close if the you use that case.
Motorola's stock case can close fully because the thickness of the case is the same as the black borders surrounding the 6.9 inch display.
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It looks cheap too in real life ..not like the ones in their advertisement
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It looks cheap too in real life ..not like the ones in their advertisement
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Yeah. They sell the same cheap hard plastic cases for Z Flips and they look cheap. Your phone will look like a toy using that kind of case.

I bought a real Aramid fibre case from AliExpress but still waiting to arrive.

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Haha... I heard that it takes 1 week at least for his set to arrive right?
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Less than 1 week.
Paid the amount to Fastech on 19 June.
Razr arrived in Fastech's shop on 23 June (you can immediately pick up the same day)

~4 days shipping from China to Malaysia.

They close at 10PM daily.

I prefer pick up so your phone won't have to go through courier and delay the delivery even more.

Fastech is located inside Subang Square.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 6 2023, 02:03 PM)
Yeah. They sell the same cheap hard plastic cases for Z Flips and they look cheap. Your phone will look like a toy using that kind of case.

I bought a real Aramid fibre case from AliExpress but still waiting to arrive.

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this one a good minimal case i bought for my 2022 too
just the lip protection for the external is too minimal ... that might be one of the culprit that made my external screen go black and need claim warranty cos knocked in pocket with another phone case ... but i am just guessing whistling.gif

anyway a really light and minimal case thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 6 2023, 02:03 PM)
Yeah. They sell the same cheap hard plastic cases for Z Flips and they look cheap. Your phone will look like a toy using that kind of case.

I bought a real Aramid fibre case from AliExpress but still waiting to arrive.

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I end up by sticking with the free transparent case that comes with the phone ..maybe will let my cat play with those cheapo cases
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Hahaha good luck to whoever that fall to that scam
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Joking ya... damn scammer. Dont know which forums he got the pics from.
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I end up by sticking with the free transparent case that comes with the phone ..maybe will let my cat play with those cheapo cases
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Yeah. My concern is if you use the thick case, your phone will only partially close permanently if you use that case for a long period.
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After several days, I just realized that this phone is so light,compact and the OS is so damn fluid...one of the best underrated phone that can be slip in the pocket comfortably
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After several days, I just realized that this phone is so light,compact and the OS is so damn fluid...one of the best underrated phone that can be slip in the pocket comfortably
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It is underrated because not officially sold here .. only hardcore fan will get it 😄

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Extra Rm130 for the red. Not too bad la. But would still got for the blue.  tongue.gif
Nothing 2? Midranger with Mid Range Specs. Medicore Performance for everything. Not your cup of tea.
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Haha... U guys dont jealous when I get my 40 Ultra for Rm850. laugh.gif
Joking ya... damn scammer. Dont know which forums he got the pics from.
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Too many scammer at FB post this kind of crazy price. haha

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After several days, I just realized that this phone is so light,compact and the OS is so damn fluid...one of the best underrated phone that can be slip in the pocket comfortably
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Just the battery too small with 8+gen1. Use heavier a bit also worry low battery. If not i won't sell so fast.
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Yeah. My concern is if you use the thick case, your phone will only partially close permanently if you use that case for a long period.
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So you using your phone now without casing?
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So you using your phone now without casing?
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I'm using the included case inside the box. The included case does not stop the phone from fully closing.

Only 3rd party case will have that issue. There shouldn't be any additional thickness surrounding the black bezel.

This is also the reason that I ordered the aramid case because the phone can definitely fully close.
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After several days, I just realized that this phone is so light,compact and the OS is so damn fluid...one of the best underrated phone that can be slip in the pocket comfortably
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As what Motorola users have known for years. Moto phones are fluid and snappy. It's just that Motorola does not have a consistent "look" on their cameras. A Moto Edge 30 Pro will have a different "look" than a Razr 40 Ultra.

Even a razr 40 Ultra will have a different image processing compared to last year's razr.

Unlike Galaxy, Pixel or iPhone that you will know they came from those brands regardless of model.

(I'm referring only to flagship devices btw).
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 6 2023, 10:18 PM)
I'm using the included case inside the box. The included case does not stop the phone from fully closing.

Only 3rd party case will have that issue. There shouldn't be any additional thickness surrounding the black bezel.

This is also the reason that I ordered the aramid case because the phone can definitely fully close.
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Yup it will close shut with the case
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 6 2023, 10:18 PM)
I'm using the included case inside the box. The included case does not stop the phone from fully closing.

Only 3rd party case will have that issue. There shouldn't be any additional thickness surrounding the black bezel.

This is also the reason that I ordered the aramid case because the phone can definitely fully close.
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I will wait for your feedback for that aramid case first ..before pushing the purchase button at Ali Express
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 6 2023, 10:59 PM)
I will wait for your feedback for that aramid case first ..before pushing the purchase button at Ali Express
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Motorola is also selling their own Aramid case.
https://mitem.lenovo.com.cn/product/1030915.html

If only Fastech have direct supplier for official Motorola accesories..
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jul 6 2023, 10:01 PM)
Now waiting for zenfone 10 to come  drool.gif
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https://shp.ee/zd2vgi6
RM3699 and it's already the promo price. 😆

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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 6 2023, 10:59 PM)
I will wait for your feedback for that aramid case first ..before pushing the purchase button at Ali Express
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The case is good just that it is slim whistling.gif

most likely the moto one and the one in aliexpress is the same one ... just oem hahaha
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Might sell later bro haha. See later a bit. Quite love the camera but don't like the weight brows.gif

QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 7 2023, 08:01 AM)
https://shp.ee/zd2vgi6
RM3699 and it's already the promo price. 😆
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QUOTE(badboy77 @ Jul 7 2023, 04:14 PM)
Might sell later bro haha. See later a bit. Quite love the camera but don't like the weight  brows.gif
I ordered mine for 3.5k only haha for the 8 256gb Red
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Anyone can recommend the screen protector for this phone



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You are really a phone "Player".  laugh.gif
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Anyone can recommend the screen protector for this phone
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You can only use the hydrogel type
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 9 2023, 10:52 AM)
You can only use the hydrogel type
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How about for your RAZR.. r u using the same type of so too
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How about for your RAZR.. r u using the same type of so too
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Last time yes .. then I took it out .. now just using the default one with the phone 😂
Since it is plastic it is easy to get scratches esp if long nail (the default one)

I bought cheap at Taobao the hydrogel a pack of 2

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Aramid case arrived.
- Phone can fully close (no issue)
- Thickness is the same as the stock Razr case
- Chose the back plate which shows the M logo and razr branding (you can buy the fully enclosed back). I did this so friends won't keep asking me what phone I am using. They always think it's a Galaxy Z Flip phone.

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 9 2023, 01:15 PM)
Last time yes .. then I took it out .. now just using the default one with the phone 😂
Since it is plastic it is easy to get scratches esp if long nail (the default one)

I bought cheap at Taobao the hydrogel a pack of 2
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I manually removed the stock screen protector and put a hydrogel matte protector. No regrets as it looks more elegant without the greasy fingerprints.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 9 2023, 08:24 PM)
I manually removed the stock screen protector and put a hydrogel matte protector. No regrets as it looks more elegant without the greasy fingerprints.

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Agree but to remove the stock one is a bit risky to me 🫢 .. last time just apply on top

Is it hard to remove the stock one?

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 9 2023, 08:21 PM)
Aramid case arrived.
- Phone can fully close (no issue)
- Thickness is the same as the stock Razr case
- Chose the back plate which shows the M logo and razr branding (you can buy the fully enclosed back). I did this so friends won't keep asking me what phone I am using. They always think it's a Galaxy Z Flip phone.

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Wow it looks so amazing ..heading to Ali Express to buy one...hate to wait for so long but the one at the Shopee is double of the Ali Express price

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 9 2023, 09:12 PM)
Agree but to remove the stock one is a bit risky to me 🫢 .. last time just apply on top

Is it hard to remove the stock one?
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Apply on top and you will likely cause damage to the UTG because you are folding the phone with additional layer of plastic. It might cause additional stress to the folding mechanism.

It's easy to remove using a strong tape. It will pull out the stock screen protector.
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 9 2023, 09:32 PM)
Wow it looks so amazing ..heading to Ali Express to buy one...hate to wait for so long but the one at the Shopee is double of the Ali Express price
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Exactly the reason why I bought from Aliexpress 🤣
The waiting time isn't that long.

Placed order on 25 June via Aliexpress.
Arrived today 9 July.
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 9 2023, 10:06 PM)
Exactly the reason why I bought from Aliexpress 🤣
The waiting time isn't that long.

Placed order on 25 June via Aliexpress.
Arrived today 9 July.
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The case is great I bought one also just that the front one dont actually have a thicker lip to protect the front screen. Anyway come back to ones choice right

To be frank I think taobao will be cheaper, how much was it?
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 9 2023, 11:15 PM)
The case is great I bought one also just that the front one dont actually have a thicker lip to protect the front screen. Anyway come back to ones choice right

To be frank I think taobao will be cheaper, how much was it?
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If possible can he shows the front view with that case too...as the current transparent case is protecting the front screen with it's extended height around the screen
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 9 2023, 11:15 PM)
just that the front one dont actually have a thicker lip to protect the front screen.
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Are you referring to the small display or big display? The small display is protected. The camera lens is not going above the case.


If you are referring to the big 6.9 inch display, then this is EXACTLY what I am talking about. There should NOT be a thicker lip to protect the screen because the phone will NOT fully close if there is a gap (in this case, you are referring to the thicker lip of the case that you want to be there). It will STOP the case from fully closing.

Btw, I bought mine for RM90 including shipping.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 10 2023, 12:57 AM)
Are you referring to the small display or big display? The small display is protected. The camera lens is not going above  the case.
If you are referring to the big 6.9 inch display, then this is EXACTLY what I am talking about. There should NOT be a thicker lip to protect the screen because the phone will NOT fully close if there is a gap (in this case, you are referring to the thicker lip of the case that you want to be there). It will STOP the case from fully closing.

Btw, I bought mine for RM90 including shipping.
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Yup..we were referring to the protection for the front screen ...how it is compared with the transparent case that covers with the phone
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 10 2023, 02:50 AM)
Yup..we were referring to the protection for the front screen ...how it is compared with the transparent case that covers with the phone
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I can tell the case is slightly thinner but still able to protect the camera lens. Have you seen the official Samsung Aramid case for the Galaxy Z Flip 3? It also doesn't have a "lip" on the outer display because the camera lens is thin.

This is also the same reason why Motorola decided to use a 12mp main camera vs the 50mp main camera on last year's RAZR.

You can check the Aramid case below for the RAZR 2022 sold in Ali. It has lip on the camera lens because OEMs actually give 3rd party manufacturers the dimensions of the phone, including the camera lens height etc. So they know when to put a lip or not.



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I dont have the 40ultra but on my 2022 is like this

Default case
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so u can see there is a bit of lip to protect the front screen on the default case where as the aramid will have a very minimal protection

as the default will be at 1mm while aramid is 0.5mm or less i think sweat.gif

not sure about the case for 40 ultra since the screen is bigger a bit

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As long as the lip is higher than the camera lens, it's considered protected on a flat surface.

A 1.0 mm vs 0.5 mm lip won't matter if you drop your phone in an uneven surface (like pavement or concrete).
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 10 2023, 03:30 PM)
As long as the lip is higher than the camera lens, it's considered protected on a flat surface.

A 1.0 mm vs 0.5 mm lip won't matter if you drop your phone in an uneven surface (like pavement or concrete).
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true but as i said earlier the 2022 and 2023 model has diff size front screen and i have no idea on the 2023 model protection with the aramid case ... i can comment only for the 2022 model whistling.gif

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 10 2023, 05:27 PM)
true but as i said earlier the 2022 and 2023 model has diff size front screen and i have no idea on the 2023 model protection with the aramid case ... i can comment only for the 2022 model  whistling.gif
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Unfortunately this is the only alternative to the stock case while all other 3rd party cases can't fully close.
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 9 2023, 08:21 PM)
Aramid case arrived.
- Phone can fully close (no issue)
- Thickness is the same as the stock Razr case
- Chose the back plate which shows the M logo and razr branding (you can buy the fully enclosed back). I did this so friends won't keep asking me what phone I am using. They always think it's a Galaxy Z Flip phone.

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Nice case. How much is this?
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Nice case. How much is this?
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RM105.14 charged by AliExpress.
Arrived just more than 2 weeks after placing the order.

Motorola Razr 40 UItra Case Ultra Thin Aramid Fiber
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrcf1gM
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 10 2023, 09:34 PM)
RM105.14 charged by AliExpress.
Arrived just more than 2 weeks after placing the order.

Motorola Razr 40 UItra Case Ultra Thin Aramid Fiber
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrcf1gM
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maybe can get cheaper in taobao ... around 70 to 80 i think
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Btw what month security update u are on right now?
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Btw what month security update u are on right now?
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1 April 2023

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1 April 2023
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Based on experience, Motorola only provides quarterly updates.
So the next will be this month (July).

It will even get less and less once new Moto flagship phones are released.
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 13 2023, 09:55 AM)
Based on experience, Motorola only provides quarterly updates.
So the next will be this month (July).

It will even get less and less once new Moto flagship phones are released.
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I don't think so since CN ROM might take longer time to update ... Mine one was stuck in Dec update until last month .. finally May update come 😅🫢
Before that I was on global Rom and the update was faster

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 13 2023, 09:55 AM)
Based on experience, Motorola only provides quarterly updates.
So the next will be this month (July).

It will even get less and less once new Moto flagship phones are released.
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Any idea on how long that Motorola will support the OS and security updates for this phonem
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Any idea on how long that Motorola will support the OS and security updates for this phonem
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They are commiting 3 OS updates for the RAZR 40 Ultra and 4 years security updates.

Eversince Motorola made so may phones, they couldn't keep with their promised timeline.

The Motorola X and Z series era had the best updates ever.
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 13 2023, 11:59 AM)
Any idea on how long that Motorola will support the OS and security updates for this phonem
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Ignore whatever they promised. Look back at their edge series flagship, the update speed & schedule was terrible, no timeline whatsoever and seem like some bug never fix.

If os and security update is important to u then look somewhere else. Currently the update speed as per my understanding are as follow for Android:

Pixel > Sammy > bbk phone > xiaomi n many many else. The worst among flagship in term of updating is moto although they claim is stock bla bla bla.

Moto basically are selling u a cheap phone but then it come with tradeoff of poor support even for flagship range. Think twice before u pull the trigger.

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QUOTE(wolf1991 @ Jul 13 2023, 01:44 PM)
Ignore whatever they promised. Look back at their edge series flagship, the update speed & schedule was terrible, no timeline whatsoever and seem like some bug never fix.

If os and security update is important to u then look somewhere else. Currently the update speed as per my understanding are as follow for Android:

Pixel > Sammy > bbk phone > xiaomi n many many else. The worst among flagship in term of updating is moto although they claim is stock bla bla bla.

Moto basically are selling u a cheap phone but then it come with tradeoff of poor support even for flagship range. Think twice before u pull the trigger.
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The phone is great so far ....and I don't really care about that support at all as long as it is working ok. And so far, no major bugs at all
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 13 2023, 05:37 PM)
The phone is great so far ....and I don't really care about that support at all as long as it is working ok. And so far, no major bugs at all
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Exactly. Xiaomi or whatever BKK phones may have faster updates but Motorola phones are well optimized with almost no issue compared to other brands✌🏼
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 13 2023, 05:37 PM)
The phone is great so far ....and I don't really care about that support at all as long as it is working ok. And so far, no major bugs at all
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security update is a must
u never know there are a lot of holes

but as said eventually the update will come whistling.gif

in moto forum int people are complaining about this and the moto rep even have the ball to ask the customer to show proof of the timeline that they so called promise sweat.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 13 2023, 08:04 PM)
security update is a must
u never know there are a lot of holes

but as said eventually the update will come whistling.gif

in moto forum int people are complaining about this and the moto rep even have the ball to ask the customer to show proof of the timeline that they so called promise  sweat.gif  whistling.gif
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Fan will defend regardless of whatever reason. The support is basically none for moto, the price indeed was cheap for the hardware but the software part really.....

Anyhow everyone can just buy anything based on their own preference. Funny thing is, you will notice both moto china forum and global forum give consistent message on poor support, never fix bug, late update and some even complaint poor photo post processing despite the good hardware spec.

I personally think don't ever buy their flagship, their mid and low range even update faster than the flagship. Quite ridiculous but then their base for mid and low range is much bigger and hence that's the result from business perspective.

Moto was a good brand before but go down the hill once Lenovo take over. Lenovo just come to sell the device and not providing support. Basically what you pay is what you get 😂

Funny thing is you will notice it's same group of ppl that keep on promoting moto. Sometimes I wonder is a marketing company or not, look back at edge 30 ultra/x30 pro section in lowyat. It's basically death with low user base and poor support 🥲

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QUOTE(wolf1991 @ Jul 13 2023, 08:46 PM)
Fan will defend regardless of whatever reason. The support is basically none for moto, the price indeed was cheap for the hardware but the software part really.....

Anyhow everyone can just buy anything based on their own preference. Funny thing is, you will notice both moto china forum and global forum give consistent message on poor support, never fix bug, late update and some even complaint poor photo post processing despite the good hardware spec.

I personally think don't ever buy their flagship, their mid and low range even update faster than the flagship. Quite ridiculous but then their base for mid and low range is much bigger and hence that's the result from business perspective.

Moto was a good brand before but go down the hill once Lenovo take over. Lenovo just come to sell the device and not providing support. Basically what you pay is what you get 😂

Funny thing is you will notice it's same group of ppl that keep on promoting moto. Sometimes I wonder is a marketing company or not, look back at edge 30 ultra/x30 pro section in lowyat. It's basically death with low user base and poor support 🥲
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Mind you..that I'm not a fan of moto phone at all and in fact, it is my first CN moto phone, and it has the best looking phone at the current market right now..IMHO. Say whatever u like, I'm buying this phone for it's compact and it's amazing look...

And who cares about the no of users here in Malaysia, it is not even sold here officially

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Chill bros
This is a forum and everyone can express their thoughts .. let's go back to basics 😉

Anyway it is a good phone 😉
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Any idea on how long that Motorola will support the OS and security updates for this phonem
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Heck.... My moto G82 still on Android 12.....
Scam phone.
Lag
Drop calls
Dont buy local models. Buy china models that the dealers have good support, guarantee faster than local support. My G82 problem goes in SC for 2 months and still problem.
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 14 2023, 09:32 AM)
Chill bros
This is a forum and everyone can express their thoughts .. let's go back to basics 😉

Anyway it is a good phone 😉
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By the way...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidhea...w-razr.html/amp

"Now that Motorola is more into the high-end market, they are upping their software update game. This year, with the new Motorola Razr and Razr+, both devices will get three years of Android upgrades. Which means these will get Android 14, 15 and 16. It will also get bi-monthly security update for the next four years. Now that’s not quite as good as the monthly updates that the Pixel gets, but for most security patches, bi-monthly is definitely good enough."

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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 13 2023, 11:02 PM)
Mind you..that I'm not a fan of moto phone at all and in fact, it is my first CN moto phone, and it has the best looking phone at the current  market right now..IMHO. Say whatever u like, I'm buying this phone for it's compact and it's amazing look...

And who cares about the no of users here in Malaysia, it is not even sold here officially
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Exactly. Why would someone expect a lot of Motorola users in this forum when it's not even officially sold in MY. 🤡
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QUOTE(wolf1991 @ Jul 13 2023, 08:46 PM)
Fan will defend regardless of whatever reason. The support is basically none for moto, the price indeed was cheap for the hardware but the software part really.....

Anyhow everyone can just buy anything based on their own preference. Funny thing is, you will notice both moto china forum and global forum give consistent message on poor support, never fix bug, late update and some even complaint poor photo post processing despite the good hardware spec.

I personally think don't ever buy their flagship, their mid and low range even update faster than the flagship. Quite ridiculous but then their base for mid and low range is much bigger and hence that's the result from business perspective.

Moto was a good brand before but go down the hill once Lenovo take over. Lenovo just come to sell the device and not providing support. Basically what you pay is what you get 😂

Funny thing is you will notice it's same group of ppl that keep on promoting moto. Sometimes I wonder is a marketing company or not, look back at edge 30 ultra/x30 pro section in lowyat. It's basically death with low user base and poor support 🥲
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Some hard core fans will defend with their reasons.
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 14 2023, 10:04 AM)
By the way...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidhea...w-razr.html/amp

"Now that Motorola is more into the high-end market, they are upping their software update game. This year, with the new Motorola Razr and Razr+, both devices will get three years of Android upgrades. Which means these will get Android 14, 15 and 16. It will also get bi-monthly security update for the next four years. Now that’s not quite as good as the monthly updates that the Pixel gets, but for most security patches, bi-monthly is definitely good enough."
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The bi monthly might only apply to global Rom .. not china one .. even the 2022 which said to have 3 yrs upgrade still stuck with A12 and A14 is just around the block

Anyway when u invested in a phone that is not official need to be aware of the support 😅

Usually google do a increment update drop every quarter and security every month and it back to the manufacturer to release the update

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Anyway when u invested in a phone that is not official need to be aware of the support 😅
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True. I think we are all able to think and use our common sense when buying devices. Nobody can say that it's right or wrong because it's our own money 😛

Some people suddenly entered this thread to put negativity and hatred when we are all enjoying our phones 😛
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Just use the phone u think is best u like, no need have fansi haha.
Previously i was using the iporn 14pro also, just i feel apple doesn't have much to customize compared to android sweat.gif
So end up still prefer android
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 14 2023, 01:40 PM)
True. I think we are all able to think and use our common sense when buying devices. Nobody can say that it's right or wrong because it's our own money 😛

Some people suddenly entered this thread to put negativity and hatred when we are all enjoying our phones 😛
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Lol. I wonder which part is put negativity. I am just sharing the pros and cons of the device only. It's just that everyone perception is different.

For fan, they might think I am saying is negativity. For neutral people, they will look at the pros and cons and decide for themselves whether a particular product suite them or not.

Anyway you are right on one point, it's own money and feel free to buy whatever you guys prefer. If you are happy then it's totally fine.
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 14 2023, 10:58 AM)
The bi monthly might only apply to global Rom .. not china one .. even the 2022 which said to have 3 yrs upgrade still stuck with A12 and A14 is just around the block

Anyway when u invested in a phone that is not official need to be aware of the support 😅

Usually google do a increment update drop every quarter and security every month and it back to the manufacturer to release the update
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Just a sharing, they promised bi monthly even to the previous edge 30 ultra/x30 pro but at the end they not able to deliver.

Some people might thinking what I am sharing is not up to their liking but that's the undeniable truth. Moto is the worst among all popular brand when it come to support although they claim it's stock android.

Those potential buyer please be aware of what they might be getting and make their own judgement. If don't mind poor support and want to get good hardware spec at cheap then can go ahead.

Don't just simply affected by some comment even myself, the best is do own research and look at their cn and global forum. I just find it's very fastinating those ppl that keep on telling you it's a good device basically is a same group of people 😂


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Lol. I wonder which part is put negativity. I am just sharing the pros and cons of the device only. It's just that everyone perception is different.

For fan, they might think I am saying is negativity. For neutral people, they will look at the pros and cons and decide for themselves whether a particular product suite them or not.

Anyway you are right on one point, it's own money and feel free to buy whatever you guys prefer. If you are happy then it's totally fine.
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Yes i agree, i own the 2022 very happy with it just my complaint is the update is slow. Heck i own a pixel and i think everyone aware of pixel update support how.
Yes both unofficial phone in MY but as said earlier up to you to decide cos u are buying the phone and u had done your research

But anyway lets enjoy the phone thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(wolf1991 @ Jul 15 2023, 05:13 PM)


Don't just simply affected by some comment even myself, the best is do own research and look at their cn and global forum. I just find it's very fastinating those ppl that keep on telling you it's a good device basically is a same group of people 😂
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As my nth Motorola CN phone, I've done my research very well and even helped others how to configure their phones.

I don't need to brag that I'm a software engineer by profession so don't worry about me, I know what I'm talking about 🤡

I find it ironic that those who are complaining are the ones who don't even own Moto CN phone 😂
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 15 2023, 07:59 PM)
As my nth Motorola CN phone, I've done my research very well and even helped others how to configure their phones.

I don't need to brag that I'm a software engineer by profession so don't worry about me, I know what I'm talking about 🤡

I find it ironic that those who are complaining are the ones who don't even own Moto CN phone 😂
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Most important thing is you happy with your purchase. That's all that matter, what profession didn't really affect whether a phone is good or bad 😂

A millionaires will brag they are using a newest iphone special edition bla bla bla but that doesn't really matter as everyone perception is different.

The ironic part I find is there will be always someone that think sharing of pros and cons as a complaining 🤭.

Seem like you really happy with moto, have been seeming you from edge 20 to edge 20 pro, x30 pro and even here. If you are not part of moto or associated with marketing etc etc then I guess moto really give you highest satisfaction ☺️

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Chill bros
This is a forum and everyone can express their thoughts .. let's go back to basics 😉

Anyway it is a good phone 😉
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QUOTE(wolf1991 @ Jul 16 2023, 08:43 AM)
Most important thing is you happy with your purchase. That's all that matter, what profession didn't really affect whether a phone is good or bad 😂

A millionaires will brag they are using a newest iphone special edition bla bla bla but that doesn't really matter as everyone perception is different.

The ironic part I find is there will be always someone that think sharing of pros and cons as a complaining 🤭.

Seem like you really happy with moto, have been seeming you from edge 20 to edge 20 pro, x30 pro and even here. If you are not part of moto or associated with marketing etc etc then I guess moto really give you highest satisfaction ☺️
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Yes, I only buy Motorola phones these days with my hard-earned money.

Yeah nothing to do with my profession but you always insinuate that I am associated with Motorola so there is a need to disclose it because you want people to believe your lies 🤡

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Sorry guys, too much off topic. Trolls these days are working overtime. ✌🏼

For those who have queries with RAZR 40 Ultra, let use this thread to help each other 🙏🏼
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 16 2023, 11:15 AM)
Yes, I only buy Motorola phones these days with my hard-earned money.

Yeah nothing to do with my profession but you always insinuate that I am associated with Motorola so there is a need to disclose it because you want people to believe your lies 🤡
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Lol. Now you are saying I am lying? I wonder which part that I lie, kindly enlighten me 😂

I find it hilarious to deal with people like you, saying I am troll now, all thing I shared is a fact. What I am trying to do is also helping others to understand more on the device.

Those interested buyer will come to have a look at the forum to understand more before purchase a certain device. It's their right to know the pros and cons in advance.

All the while what I am saying is moto they have cheap price for the spec but poor and lack of support especially in Malaysia. Again the purpose of forum is to share the opinion, not for someone like you to classify those opinion you don't like as a troll or lie.

Just a piece of advise, I am not trying to brag I am engineer basically is an act of brag 🤭. Like what you mention, it really doesn't matter what profession are you to make your opinion valid or not (I wonder why you bring this up in the first place)

Anyway I guess you are super happy with moto, that's why you own all their device. It's totally fine as it is your money 🤭

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jul 16 2023, 11:01 AM)
Dude

I miss the show

Should have stand by my popcorn earlier laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Lol. Basically it's a simple matter only. Just sharing opinion, that's all. Me myself also wonder why someone trying so hard to defend a brand. Being deniable doesn't mean an issue doesn't exist.

Whether the thing is good or not, consumer will decide by themselves and somehow reflected by how many user are there. The rest is just simply chit chat

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Btw for those who interested to understand more on the brand and device, hereby is the link for global moto official and cn forum:

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Motorola-Commu...torolaCommunity

https://mclub.lenovo.com.cn/moto/

Those are the best way to get the feedback from real user and judge for yourself whether it's something that you want to buy or not.

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QUOTE(wolf1991 @ Jul 16 2023, 12:04 PM)
Lol. Basically it's a simple matter only. Just sharing opinion, that's all. Me myself also wonder why someone trying so hard to defend a brand. Being deniable doesn't mean an issue doesn't exist.

Whether the thing is good or not, consumer will decide by themselves and somehow reflected by how many user are there. The rest is just simply chit chat
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kinda miss the v3688 & V70 moto's design
Those were the good old days🙈
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QUOTE(Piers @ Jul 16 2023, 02:10 PM)
kinda miss the v3688 & V70 moto's design
Those were the good old days🙈
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u mean with the chin???
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u mean with the chin???
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QUOTE(wolf1991 @ Jul 16 2023, 12:40 PM)
Btw for those who interested to understand more on the brand and device, hereby is the link for global moto official and cn forum:

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Motorola-Commu...torolaCommunity

https://mclub.lenovo.com.cn/moto/

Those are the best way to get the feedback from real user and judge for yourself whether it's something that you want to buy or not.
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Bila..bila...bila...I'm not a moto fanboy and I'm a first time moto user, but so far, in really satisfied with it ...and I believe u have explained enough about Motorola phone.. points well taken ..no need to keep repeating and flame other people here ......learn to respect other people ...

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and are welcome to express it in these forums.

But having said that, you do you.
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 17 2023, 01:44 AM)
Bila..bila...bila...I'm not a moto fanboy and I'm a first time moto user, but so far, in really satisfied with it ...and I believe u have explained enough about Motorola phone.. points well taken ..no need to keep repeating and flame other people here ......learn to respect other people ...
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Ok noted. It's good that you are happy with your device. Lol anyway just for clarification ,since when I frame other people here and learn to respect other people?? 😮‍💨

I wonder why suddenly become my fault pulak. All I did was sharing info only and then someone was framing me lying out of sudden without any proof.

Anyway it's just a simple matter. Point taken and happy with purchase then it's totally fine 😂
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New price from Fast Tech 🥳🥳🥳
I'm pretty sure it will still go lower once Samsung announces the new Z Flip 5 😆😆😆

But then again, that's the price to pay for being an early adopter.
Even the latest S23 Ultra can now be had for ~RM4.3k which I think is a great option if you are into big phones.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 19 2023, 02:52 PM)
New price from Fast Tech 🥳🥳🥳
I'm pretty sure it will still go lower once Samsung announces the new Z Flip 5 😆😆😆

But then again, that's the price to pay for being an early adopter.
Even the latest S23 Ultra can now be had for ~RM4.3k which I think is a great option if you are into big phones.

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Yes I agree most likely it will go down more later
Got one guy is selling the 512 one for 3999 already but just realized fastech is cheaper 🫢

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Yes I agree most likely it will go down more later
Got one guy is selling the 512 one for 3999 already
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one of the reasons may also be because z flip 5 rumoured to be competitively priced (but crease is rumoured to still be more noticeable than 40 Ultra)

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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Jul 19 2023, 10:09 PM)
one of the reasons may also be because z flip 5 rumoured to be competitively priced (but crease is rumoured to still be more noticeable than 40 Ultra)
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I read differently from various web sources that the new flip 5 will be priced more expensive than the previous flip 4.. and taking into a consideration of weak RM to US dollar, I will be not surprise for the price of flip 5

https://phonemantra.com/galaxy-fold-5-and-f...r-predecessors/

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/samsung-gala...before-unpacked
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 19 2023, 11:06 PM)
I read differently from various web sources that the new flip 5 will be priced more expensive than the previous flip 4.. and taking into a consideration of weak RM to US dollar, I will be not surprise for the price of flip 5

https://phonemantra.com/galaxy-fold-5-and-f...r-predecessors/

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/samsung-gala...before-unpacked
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Usually Samsung will increase price for new model 🫢
See on how Samsung will position it on launch day later since they don't follow price apple to apple in some countries

Price will drop after 3-6 mth
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Not bad.....

https://youtu.be/atCjacOWPjU

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jul 19 2023, 02:52 PM)
New price from Fast Tech 🥳🥳🥳
I'm pretty sure it will still go lower once Samsung announces the new Z Flip 5 😆😆😆

But then again, that's the price to pay for being an early adopter.
Even the latest S23 Ultra can now be had for ~RM4.3k which I think is a great option if you are into big phones.

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Haha my s20 ultra is still bigger than 23 laugh.gif 6.9" yo icon_idea.gif

The only thing bigger in s23 ultra is the ultra thickness and that i cannot deny it laugh.gif rclxms.gif

Bought at 3999 when i almost on the brink of dying in hunger in 2020 if not 4 the non-madani government give out hahahaha
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QUOTE(Piers @ Jul 16 2023, 02:10 PM)
kinda miss the v3688 & V70 moto's design
Those were the good old days🙈
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My ex-gf used 2 have it in 2003 laugh.gif Suits her style very well laugh.gif

Back then ladies can still keep phone in jeans pocket but now ladies with fat phone need 2 keep in hand bag hahahaha

How fashion trends have changed eh icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jul 21 2023, 10:18 PM)
My ex-gf used 2 have it in 2003 laugh.gif Suits her style very well laugh.gif

Back then ladies can still keep phone in jeans pocket but now ladies with fat phone need 2 keep in hand bag hahahaha

How fashion trends have changed eh icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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New security update installed dated as for 1 July for CN phone
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New security update installed dated as for 1 July for CN phone
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Seems like updates for Motorola phones are quite fast to arrive. thumbsup.gif

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After updating the phone:
1. Smoother transition on the cover display (ex. if you are inside an app and you swipe up from the bottom to go home).

2. Optimized keyboard (the keyboard is SMALLER hence, there is more room above to see what you are typing).

3. Doesn't heat up that much especially when playing (Mobile Legends).
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Bug after updating:
- Palm gesture auto shutter does not work on the main camera (it only works with the selfie cam)

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Bug after updating:
- Palm gesture auto shutter does not work on the main camera (it only works with the selfie cam)
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It's is working ok for mine...with palm gesture
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It's is working ok for mine...with palm gesture
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It works now.. maybe just some random bug.
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New security update installed dated as for 1 July for CN phone
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 27 2023, 03:49 PM)
This is 👍
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3 years update?

i expect moto moto 2 get rid from 2 years update in 2023 the year of flipping folding.

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jul 29 2023, 10:59 AM)
3 years update?

i expect moto moto 2 get rid from 2 years update in 2023 the year of flipping folding.

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Sooo everyone got the Ultra, no one getting the regular 40? I've been debating to get the regular 40 from fastech, don't really need the big 2ndary screen and I suppose.. less powerful battery + bigger batt = better battery life?

But I am hesitating to switch from my Edge 30 Pro; of which I have almost no complaints on. Switching means I would downgrade the soc (although I am a casual user, no gaming etc), battery, charging speed, cameras, and I suppose practicality/durability? Considering I use my phone for work purposes as well. Also have to think of an excuse to give the missus at home as well lol 🤣

But I am a long time Moto user, and mostly wishes to change to Razr 40 due to being nostalgic using the Razr V3 during my uni days..

Opinions are welcome guys! I also have a few other things on my mind too, if current owners don't mind asking!
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Jul 31 2023, 03:59 PM)
Sooo everyone got the Ultra, no one getting the regular 40? I've been debating to get the regular 40 from fastech, don't really need the big 2ndary screen and I suppose.. less powerful battery + bigger batt = better battery life?

But I am hesitating to switch from my Edge 30 Pro; of which I have almost no complaints on. Switching means I would downgrade the soc (although I am a casual user, no gaming etc), battery, charging speed, cameras, and I suppose practicality/durability? Considering I use my phone for work purposes as well. Also have to think of an excuse to give the missus at home as well lol 🤣

But I am a long time Moto user, and mostly wishes to change to Razr 40 due to being nostalgic using the Razr V3 during my uni days..

Opinions are welcome guys! I also have a few other things on my mind too, if current owners don't mind asking!
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Regular razr has bigger battery but the soc is not as powerful and efficient, antutu score is almost 500k while the ultra close to 1M. Based on gsmarena data, regular razr actually has similar battery life as the ultra.
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Jul 31 2023, 03:59 PM)
Sooo everyone got the Ultra, no one getting the regular 40? I've been debating to get the regular 40 from fastech, don't really need the big 2ndary screen and I suppose.. less powerful battery + bigger batt = better battery life?

But I am hesitating to switch from my Edge 30 Pro; of which I have almost no complaints on. Switching means I would downgrade the soc (although I am a casual user, no gaming etc), battery, charging speed, cameras, and I suppose practicality/durability? Considering I use my phone for work purposes as well. Also have to think of an excuse to give the missus at home as well lol 🤣

But I am a long time Moto user, and mostly wishes to change to Razr 40 due to being nostalgic using the Razr V3 during my uni days..

Opinions are welcome guys! I also have a few other things on my mind too, if current owners don't mind asking!
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IMHO it's the most compact phone that I have ever owned ..and I believe as the lightest too as well

And btw ..u can have more idea about the standard version with the following link

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/motoro...zr-2023-review/

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Aug 1 2023, 01:33 AM)
Regular razr has bigger battery but the soc is not as powerful and efficient, antutu score is almost 500k while the ultra close to 1M. Based on gsmarena data, regular razr actually has similar battery life as the ultra.
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Yea, read about that too. Here I thought a less powerful chip with bigger batt means more screen time lol. And I do have concerns that the SD 7 image processing would be inferior to the SD8 as well, although I have no data to back this up. I suppose with further updates they'll get better batt life (and better camera images?) though it's not certain

QUOTE(silencer @ Aug 1 2023, 07:39 AM)
IMHO it's the most compact phone that I have ever owned ..and I believe as the lightest too as well

And btw ..u can have more idea about the standard version with the following link

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/motoro...zr-2023-review/
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Yep just read this, as well as from Gizmochina too. What I gather is its 'adequate for daily use'. Makes me think of splurging for the Ultra, but I can get 12/256 much cheaper for the standard than 8/256 Ultra, too. Was hoping I didnt have the downgrade the ram compared to my current 30 Pro too..

Any of you guys use Android Auto, btw? I've heard how CN roms doesn't work with Android Auto for some certain reasons.. and I wonder why when changed to global rom meaning no more updates, like in Fastech listing?

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Any of you guys use Android Auto, btw? I've heard how CN roms doesn't work with Android Auto for some certain reasons.. and I wonder why when changed to global rom meaning no more updates, like in Fastech listing?
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Afaik it don't work with CN ROM. Yes u can change to global if the rom is available in moto Repo. Actually you can get update just u need to change the update channel to the correct one

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Aug 1 2023, 10:16 AM)
Afaik it don't work with CN ROM. Yes u can change to global if the rom is available in moto Repo. Actually you can get update just u need to change the update channel to the correct one
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Aahh darn, thank you for confirming my suspicions, would be a step back if I can't use Android Auto either, hrnnn

Not sure about.. changing the update channel stuff etc lol.

And for the current owners, can you comment on the display crease?

Initially my plan was just leave it unfolded during work etc, and only fold when I have to move around haha

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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 1 2023, 10:34 AM)
Aahh darn, thank you for confirming my suspicions, would be a step back if I can't use Android Auto either, hrnnn

Not sure about.. changing the update channel stuff etc lol.

And for the current owners, can you comment on the display crease?

Initially my plan was just leave it unfolded during work etc, and only fold when I have to move around haha
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The crease is barely visible for me...no complain at all
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The crease is barely visible for me...no complain at all
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I see. Although still can be felt with fingers, aye? And what do you think about picture quality? While I know photography was never a strong point for foldables, and I reckon all modern smartphones produce generally good pictures, I can't help but wonder and looking forward to opinions from different users!
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 1 2023, 11:04 AM)
I see. Although still can be felt with fingers, aye? And what do you think about picture quality? While I know photography was never a strong point for foldables, and I reckon all modern smartphones produce generally good pictures, I can't help but wonder and looking forward to opinions from different users!
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Frankly, I'm not qualified enough to comment about the picture quality as it is not one of my priorities for the phone....maybe someone else can provide better opinion about it
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Frankly, I'm not qualified enough to comment about the picture quality as it is not one of my priorities for the phone....maybe someone else can provide better opinion about it
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Maybe your general opinion, say compared to your previous phones? 😃
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Crease wise I think if u look at it from some angle can see one... Since it is a foldable 🤣
Camera wise I think it is still ok don't compare to the flagship that has a better camera sensor
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Aug 1 2023, 01:45 PM)
Crease wise I think if u look at it from some angle can see one... Since it is a foldable 🤣
Camera wise I think it is still ok don't compare to the flagship that has a better camera sensor
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Yea, was expecting crease since its a foldable, since I've seen Flips around but no Razr, even the 2022. And for sure the camera won't be flagship level lol, certainly not Pixel/Iphone stuff, but at least I want it to be serviceable..?
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 1 2023, 01:15 PM)
Maybe your general opinion, say compared to your previous phones? 😃
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My other phone is s23 ultra..so u know what I mean
But frankly, both pictures r acceptable for me ..and again, I hardly take any pictures every day

Surprisingly, my RAZR is my main driver now... because of its portability and amazing looks..and still have 30% juice left at the end of day

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QUOTE(silencer @ Aug 1 2023, 02:13 PM)
My other phone is s23 ultra..so u know what I mean
But frankly, both pictures r acceptable for me ..and again, I hardly take any pictures every day

Surprisingly, my RAZR is my main driver now... because of its portability and amazing looks..and still have 30% juice left at the end of day
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So you have the flagship of flagships to compare 😅 but thank you for your feedback. I am surprised you're using the Razr for daily driver now, despite it's.. shortfalls? I mean you do have a S23U, don't you feel something.. lacking?

I've looked over at Singapore forums, and saw some got theirs from HK, and have Google and Play Store etc etc preloaded. More convenient I suppose..?
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 1 2023, 02:59 PM)
So you have the flagship of flagships to compare 😅 but thank you for your feedback. I am surprised you're using the Razr for daily driver now, despite it's.. shortfalls? I mean you do have a S23U, don't you feel something.. lacking?

I've looked over at Singapore forums, and saw some got theirs from HK, and have Google and Play Store etc etc preloaded. More convenient I suppose..?
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Lacking of what! As I hardly play mobile games and take pictures...I just like the compact body and something different..by the way..it is my first flip phones


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Lacking of what! As I hardly play mobile games and take pictures...I just like the compact body and something different..by the way..it is my first flip phones
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Noted, and thanks! I do use my phone for work, which involves taking some pictures, but not like.. I need a pro photo quality anyway, and I also do not play any games - I have my PC for that. Although not being able to use Android Auto is... kind of a minus for me, at the moment.

I understand the different part. Else, its just...another phone with slightly better specs year by year. Always thought by now even mid range soc is fast enough, and cameras being decent enough, at least compared to couple years back.

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Yea, read about that too. Here I thought a less powerful chip with bigger batt means more screen time lol. And I do have concerns that the SD 7 image processing would be inferior to the SD8 as well, although I have no data to back this up. I suppose with further updates they'll get better batt life (and better camera images?) though it's not certain
Yep just read this, as well as from Gizmochina too. What I gather is its 'adequate for daily use'. Makes me think of splurging for the Ultra, but I can get 12/256 much cheaper for the standard than 8/256 Ultra, too. Was hoping I didnt have the downgrade the ram compared to my current 30 Pro too..

Any of you guys use Android Auto, btw? I've heard how CN roms doesn't work with Android Auto for some certain reasons.. and I wonder why when changed to global rom meaning no more updates, like in Fastech listing?
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I suggest getting the Razr 2022 instead of the regular 40. Similarly priced with better specs (bigger cover display too).
Also, I'm pretty sure the regular Razr 40 has mediocre cameras.

When converting to Global ROM, I suggest you do it yourself and do a full research in XDA. There are several ways of modding a Motorola. Some can re-lock the bootloader and still get software updates over the air while others will remain bootloader unlocked -- which means, you have to manually flash the software to get future updates.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Aug 1 2023, 04:39 PM)
I suggest getting the Razr 2022 instead of the regular 40. Similarly priced with better specs (bigger cover display too).
Also, I'm pretty sure the regular Razr 40 has mediocre cameras.

When converting to Global ROM, I suggest you do it yourself and do a full research  in XDA. There are several ways of modding a Motorola. Some can re-lock the bootloader and still get software updates over the air while others will remain bootloader unlocked -- which means, you have to manually flash the software to get future updates.
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Indeed, I've looked at the 2022 model, in fact I've followed Razr's revival back when it was announced in.. 2019? But somehow the current 40 model is the one that caught my attention. Plus for something like this, it's always better to wait for several gen, aye?

Plus, bro cruzzmz here said he had some issues with his 2022 and I believe him lol
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 1 2023, 05:07 PM)
Indeed, I've looked at the 2022 model, in fact I've followed Razr's revival back when it was announced in.. 2019? But somehow the current 40 model is the one that caught my attention. Plus for something like this, it's always better to wait for several gen, aye?

Plus, bro cruzzmz here said he had some issues with his 2022 and I believe him lol
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Got issues with the front screen but luckily can claim warranty hahaha anyway yes 2022 still a good phone and I'm using it as my second phone .. batt wise still can last 1 day .. yes I think the soc and the camera might be better than the normal 40 as mentioned

As for the flash to global Rom it is quite easy since there are a lot of tutorial on it .. last time I did had the global Rom on my 2022 and it was bootloader locked and it can update at least 2 times before I send for warranty and after warranty lazy to flash so stick with CN rom. One advantage of the CN rom is the wallet app that I don't need to bring my office passcard anymore 😉 since I cloned the card

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Aug 1 2023, 01:45 PM)
Crease wise I think if u look at it from some angle can see one... Since it is a foldable 🤣
Camera wise I think it is still ok don't compare to the flagship that has a better camera sensor
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Haha crease is life🙈
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Yea was expecting crease, and apparently from others say the 40 is the least.. visible of all flips?

Still, bro cruzzmz did you notice any change etc to the crease over use on your 2022? Long term I mean

And since Android Auto is somewhat being phased out by Google Assistant Driving I guess... I can overlook that.
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Yea was expecting crease, and apparently from others say the 40 is the least.. visible of all flips?

Still, bro cruzzmz did you notice any change etc to the crease over use on your 2022? Long term I mean

And since Android Auto is somewhat being phased out by Google Assistant Driving I guess... I can overlook that.
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Nope .. it is still ok just the screen protector since it is plastic it has visible scratches 😂

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I wonder if Motorola will ever bring this in. I mean they didn't even bring any of this year's models in, iinm. Looks atm they're.. dead again, after a brief revival.
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 2 2023, 12:04 PM)
I wonder if Motorola will ever bring this in. I mean they didn't even bring any of this year's models in, iinm. Looks atm they're.. dead again, after a brief revival.
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 2 2023, 12:04 PM)
I wonder if Motorola will ever bring this in. I mean they didn't even bring any of this year's models in, iinm. Looks atm they're.. dead again, after a brief revival.
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Most likely no .. 2022 only aus got it in this region.. but still my have a lot of grey imports not like us stuck with few models only
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I wonder if Motorola will ever bring this in. I mean they didn't even bring any of this year's models in, iinm. Looks atm they're.. dead again, after a brief revival.
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Aug 2 2023, 04:56 PM)
Most likely no .. 2022 only aus got it in this region.. but still my have a lot of grey imports not like us stuck with few models only
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Just buy grey imports lorh hahaha
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Just buy grey imports lorh hahaha
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Yea I think I most probably would get one in the coming weeks, just debating between a 12/256 regular 40 or splurge on a 8/256 Ultra, weighing them pros and cons lol.
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 2 2023, 07:20 PM)
Yea I think I most probably would get one in the coming weeks, just debating between a 12/256 regular 40 or splurge on a 8/256 Ultra, weighing them pros and cons lol.
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Aug 3 2023, 07:23 AM)
If got budget go for ultra hahaha
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Btw I've read about how CN Razr 40 UI is different.. than global ROM one? Can anyone confirm or comment?

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Ini bad poison 🤣

Btw I've read about how CN Razr 40 UI is different.. than global ROM one? Can anyone confirm or comment?
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Very different from one Ui

Also major update cycle is shorter

Samsung 4 vs Moto 2 or 3 i not sure haha

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Ini bad poison 🤣

Btw I've read about how CN Razr 40 UI is different.. than global ROM one? Can anyone confirm or comment?
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Saw that live running folding test against Flip 5, the Ultra failed at 43k folds, abit.. far cry from the 400k advertised.

I know this isn't a conclusive test or whatnot, and only done with 1 unit, but, still..
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 5 2023, 01:58 PM)
Saw that live running folding test against Flip 5, the Ultra failed at 43k folds, abit.. far cry from the 400k advertised.

I know this isn't a conclusive test or whatnot, and only done with 1 unit, but, still..
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Actually, the Ultra "failed" at 43k and worked again as normal (the previous issue disappeared).
It completely "failed" around ~130k flips (Razr's screw breaks which I didn't witness. I also want to know which screw they are referring to).

As of now, Samsung is still working (and of course won the battle).
Keep in mind that ~130k folds means you can use the phone for at least 4 to 5 years if you flip it around 100x per day.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Aug 5 2023, 02:40 PM)
Actually, the Ultra "failed" at 43k and worked again as normal (the previous issue disappeared).
It completely "failed" around ~130k flips (Razr's screw breaks which I didn't witness. I also want to know which screw they are referring to).

As of now, Samsung is still working (and of course won the battle).
Keep in mind that ~130k folds means you can use the phone for at least 4  to 5 years if you flip it around 100x per day.
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Ahh so it has continuation, haven't kept tracked. Still far from the advertised 400k folds, but you're also right on it should.. be ok for 2++ years. Of which by that time I suppose most people would get another flip, or resigned to bar phone again lol.

Most probably will just get the regular 40, unless.. I get a bonus or smth in the coming month 🤣
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Ahh so it has continuation, haven't kept tracked. Still far from the advertised 400k folds, but you're also right on it should.. be ok for  2++ years. Of which by that time I suppose most people would get another flip, or resigned to bar phone again lol.

Most probably will just get the regular 40, unless.. I get a bonus or smth in the coming month 🤣
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Ahh so it has continuation, haven't kept tracked. Still far from the advertised 400k folds, but you're also right on it should.. be ok for  2++ years. Of which by that time I suppose most people would get another flip, or resigned to bar phone again lol.

Most probably will just get the regular 40, unless.. I get a bonus or smth in the coming month 🤣
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I kaki bar phone since day 1😄😆
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Yea thats the thing, from my V3 back in college, til now allll candy bar phones. That nostalgic feeling to use flip.. but till now too many drawbacks
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 5 2023, 03:34 PM)
Ahh so it has continuation, haven't kept tracked. Still far from the advertised 400k folds, but you're also right on it should.. be ok for  2++ years. Of which by that time I suppose most people would get another flip, or resigned to bar phone again lol.

Most probably will just get the regular 40, unless.. I get a bonus or smth in the coming month 🤣
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I think it was Samsung who promised 400k folds. Motorola mentioned 200k but still falls short from their promise 😅
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New software update

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Bug fixes, stability update etc?

How's battery life for your unit so far?
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Still running on China Rom?
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Still running on China Rom?
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Still. Although I am considering on converting to Global ROM so I can have a decent cover display experience.

Most of the cover display widgets are for Moto CN apps.
I would like to get the official Spotify widget for the cover display.
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 5 2023, 03:34 PM)
Ahh so it has continuation, haven't kept tracked. Still far from the advertised 400k folds, but you're also right on it should.. be ok for  2++ years. Of which by that time I suppose most people would get another flip, or resigned to bar phone again lol.

Most probably will just get the regular 40, unless.. I get a bonus or smth in the coming month 🤣
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I would say, if you're on a budget, a flip phone probably isn't the first choice, since your concern is regarding the durability and lifespan of the phone which are valid concerns imo. Still better off sticking with a bar phone for that peace of mind sweat.gif
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QUOTE(iLemonx @ Aug 9 2023, 03:13 PM)
I would say, if you're on a budget, a flip phone probably isn't the first choice, since your concern is regarding the durability and lifespan of the phone which are valid concerns imo. Still better off sticking with a bar phone for that peace of mind  sweat.gif
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It's.. not really budget, just not really too keen on splurging a flagship level flip phone at this moment, a grey import too boot.

That said, I am a big longtime fan of Motorola, and have been watching their flip phones since the 2019 announcement.

Was thinking if the regular 40 is good enough for casual use..
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Is there a way to change to global and still get updates?
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There is a way on the net but then not sure if locking back the bootloader will make it to go bootloop 😔
And yes u can still get update with the correct channel of update

A bit tough since the euro and the us people got the official phone and global Rom and they less buy the china one .. so they don't flash it as much as the last 2022 RAZR and report back the results
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I know this is out of topic.

What the hell happened to Motorola Malaysia?

I searched their facebook page, no longer available.

Search Lenovo Shopee page, the motorola phone is no longer available.

Lenovo quit phone business in our country? I still remembered during past 2-3 years, they aggressively promote Edge & G model.

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QUOTE(Alternate Gabriel @ Aug 9 2023, 11:54 PM)
I know this is out of topic.

What the hell happened to Motorola Malaysia?

I searched their facebook page, no longer available.

Search Lenovo Shopee page, the motorola phone is no longer available.

Lenovo quit phone business in our country? I still remembered during past 2-3 years, they aggressively promote Edge & G model.
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Yea they made a comeback like sometime ago, and then.. died again I guess. So far this year's models no new releases
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Aug 9 2023, 01:44 PM)
Still. Although I am considering on converting to Global ROM so I can have a decent cover display experience.

Most of the cover display widgets are for Moto CN apps.
I would like to get the official Spotify widget for the cover display.
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I've heard how CN rom even change to English language, still got some Chinese UI etc etc, can you confirm?

And anyone.. can vouch or offer experience erc on seller Monmar..?
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There is a way on the net but then not sure if locking back the bootloader will make it to go bootloop 😔
And yes u can still get update with the correct channel of update

A bit tough since the euro and the us people got the official phone and global Rom and they less buy the china one .. so they don't flash it as much as the last 2022 RAZR and report back the results
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I heard Lolinet telegram group can help in converting to Global ROM and locking the bootloader with no issue but they will charge ~USD80-100 (depending on the modder).

That would be the last resort when everything goes bad (bootloop/ bricked phone).

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I've heard how CN rom even change to English language, still got some Chinese UI etc etc, can you confirm?

And anyone.. can vouch or offer experience erc on seller Monmar..?
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No issue with the translation but Moto exclusive CN Apps (Lenovo App Center, Moto Voice, Moto communicty etc) will still be in Chinese.
Other than that, everything is in English.

I once bought a phone from monmar tech (I think around 2019) but their phones are more expensive than Fast Tech because they need to pay fees to Lazada/Shopee unlike when you buy direct to Fast Tech.

Monmar is a trusted seller so go ahead if you feel like buying from them.

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No issue with the translation but Moto exclusive CN Apps (Lenovo App Center, Moto Voice, Moto communicty etc) will still be in Chinese.
Other than that, everything is in English.

I once bought a phone from monmar tech (I think around 2019) but their phones are more expensive than Fast Tech because they need to pay fees to Lazada/Shopee unlike when you buy direct to Fast Tech.

Monmar is a trusted seller so go ahead if you feel like buying from them.
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I suppose I will have no use for those Moto CN apps..? As long as standard Google apps/banking/local e wallet apps are usable.

Somehow with the 8.8 bonus I found one Blue unit (8/256) tad cheaper than Fastech lol. Thanks for the feedback.

Still thinking if I should just get a 12/256 regular 40 over Ultra hahahaha. But even then sometimes I'm let down by pics on my 30 Pro, makes me doubt on downgrading the cameras on the regular 40.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Aug 10 2023, 10:06 AM)
I heard Lolinet telegram group can help in converting to Global ROM and locking the bootloader with no issue but they will charge ~USD80-100 (depending on the modder).

That would be the last resort when everything goes bad (bootloop/ bricked phone).
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Not sure about that.. u can do it yourself actually but it is a bit troublesome since it is not as straight fwd as flashing Rom in pixel. U need to get a unlock code from moto site.

If all go south u will have a very expensive door stopper 😂

Maybe will be able to flash it again but worst need to send back to CN.. but fastech maybe charge a bit only to send back

Well it is decided then u wants a normal 40

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Not sure about that.. u can do it yourself actually but it is a bit troublesome since it is not as straight fwd as flashing Rom in pixel. U need to get a unlock code from moto site.

If all go south u will have a very expensive door stopper 😂

Maybe will be able to flash it again but worst need to send back to CN.. but fastech maybe charge a bit only to send back

Well it is decided then u wants a normal 40
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Yeah. Only when you bricked your phone will you need help from modders. I haven't seen any thread related to converting 40 Ultra CN ROM to Global.
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I suppose I will have no use for those Moto CN apps..? As long as standard Google apps/banking/local e wallet apps are usable.

Somehow with the 8.8 bonus I found one Blue unit (8/256) tad cheaper than Fastech lol. Thanks for the feedback.

Still thinking if I should just get a 12/256 regular 40 over Ultra hahahaha. But even then sometimes I'm let down by pics on my 30 Pro, makes me doubt on downgrading the cameras on the regular 40.
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Is there a way to change to global and still get updates?
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I heard Lolinet telegram group can help in converting to Global ROM and locking the bootloader with no issue but they will charge ~USD80-100 (depending on the modder).

That would be the last resort when everything goes bad (bootloop/ bricked phone).
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We have a few experts in here that can easily do the same, aye?
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QUOTE(Alternate Gabriel @ Aug 9 2023, 11:54 PM)
I know this is out of topic.

What the hell happened to Motorola Malaysia?

I searched their facebook page, no longer available.

Search Lenovo Shopee page, the motorola phone is no longer available.

Lenovo quit phone business in our country? I still remembered during past 2-3 years, they aggressively promote Edge & G model.
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Finally I found endah parade. So many in Moto Facebook group ask where to service, I will share my experience and save them time running around to ask.
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We have a few experts in here that can easily do the same, aye?
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Have but if bricked it is on you 💬
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Oh come on I've seen you guys talked about it easy like ABC lol 🤣
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It is easy .. but easily will bricked your phone too
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Just like Huawei buying Moto is very risky proposition hahahaha
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It is easy .. but easily will bricked your phone too
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Just like Huawei buying Moto is very risky proposition hahahaha
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Huawei now a days the premium one can just install an app and the g service is easy be used
No need to unlock or whatever.. but then again it still have the late notification issues sometimes 🤔
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Aug 13 2023, 12:37 PM)
Huawei now a days the premium one can just install an app and the g service is easy be used
No need to unlock or whatever.. but then again it still have the late notification issues sometimes 🤔
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Bro... the late notification issue could be due to over aggressive battery saving feature enabled on android 13 itself.
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Bro... the late notification issue could be due to over aggressive battery saving feature enabled on android 13 itself.
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i think only for china rom phone ... no issue on pixel with any kind of late notification on any android version
but on my 2022 now no issue already

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So guys, I'm sorry to say but I've decided to go with a 12/256 Razr 40 instead of Ultra. For now I just want to try it out since rather bored of candybar phones, and I'm not really a heavy user type, so a regular 40 should suffice. Read a few reviews here and there... should fit my use. More of like.. a not so expensive experiment, for the time being.

Say if I like it, perhaps in future iterations (Razr 50? Lol) then I can step up and get a flagship model, maybe?
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So guys, I'm sorry to say but I've decided to go with a 12/256 Razr 40 instead of Ultra. For now I just want to try it out since rather bored of candybar phones, and I'm not really a heavy user type, so a regular 40 should suffice. Read a few reviews here and there... should fit my use. More of like.. a not so expensive experiment, for the time being.

Say if I like it, perhaps in future iterations (Razr 50? Lol) then I can step up and get a flagship model, maybe?
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 15 2023, 12:17 PM)
So guys, I'm sorry to say but I've decided to go with a 12/256 Razr 40 instead of Ultra. For now I just want to try it out since rather bored of candybar phones, and I'm not really a heavy user type, so a regular 40 should suffice. Read a few reviews here and there... should fit my use. More of like.. a not so expensive experiment, for the time being.

Say if I like it, perhaps in future iterations (Razr 50? Lol) then I can step up and get a flagship model, maybe?
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Woohoo congrats!! Hopefully you will like it!
Backread on how to properly configure Google services and Moto device shield app.
You need to follow an easy guide to make sure everything will sync and no delay in notification.
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Woohoo congrats!! Hopefully you will like it!
Backread on how to properly configure Google services and Moto device shield app.
You need to follow an easy guide to make sure everything will sync and no delay in notification.
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Thanks, no doubt the guide you've made would be very helpful. Will update when I get it, and probably a short review/simple comparison with my current 30 Pro!

The current problem would be finding a suitable case, though..
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 15 2023, 12:17 PM)
So guys, I'm sorry to say but I've decided to go with a 12/256 Razr 40 instead of Ultra. For now I just want to try it out since rather bored of candybar phones, and I'm not really a heavy user type, so a regular 40 should suffice. Read a few reviews here and there... should fit my use. More of like.. a not so expensive experiment, for the time being.

Say if I like it, perhaps in future iterations (Razr 50? Lol) then I can step up and get a flagship model, maybe?
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For regular usage ..u won't lose much though .. it is just another mobile phone with different flip design ...
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Thanks, no doubt the guide you've made would be very helpful. Will update when I get it, and probably a short review/simple comparison with my current 30 Pro!

The current problem would be finding a suitable case, though..
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For regular usage ..u won't lose much though .. it is just another mobile phone with different flip design ...
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Yea I'm expecting some downgrade on pictures quality and perhaps battery life and maybe some.. total usability but perhaps not by much. At least I hope not

But if you have no qualms from your S23U then I suppose I should not too, lol.
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Yea I'm expecting some downgrade on pictures quality and perhaps battery life and maybe some.. total usability but perhaps not by much. At least I hope not

But if you have no qualms from your S23U then I suppose I should not too, lol.
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My unit is perhaps.. a week away but I've heard how CN Rom phones cant share location thru Whatsapp?

Uh oh
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My unit is perhaps.. a week away but I've heard how CN Rom phones cant share location thru Whatsapp?

Uh oh
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So I pulled the gun and purchased the Z Flip5 as well.
Here are my thoughts comparing to the RAZR 40 Ultra.

Z Flip5
- has "smoother" hinge when closing and opening. It feels similar to the old Moto RAZR 5G (2020).
- Bigger and more useful cover display widgets.
- Relatively better battery life - but not by much. It just lasts longer.
- Samsung One UI is better if you are into customization.

RAZR 40 Ultra
- Slimmer even with the case. The Flip5 is too bulky even without the case to begin with.
- Better display in the cover screen. The Flip5's cover display screen looks like a cheap version. You can literally see the pixels.
- BETTER camera. Yes, it's a personal preference but the RAZR takes brighter shots. Not oversaturated but brighter since it has f1.5 aperture.

And the most important one..
- SNAPPIER software overall. It's difficult to describe but when I navigate through the menus, apps, etc, the razr seems faster.
- Flip5's reaction time to my tap is slow like I need to wait for an animation/transition to complete before I can tap the display. It won't react to my touch if the animation isn't complete. To be fair, Samsung One UI is NEVER laggy. No stuttering whatsoever. It's just like an iPhone where they have fluid and SLOW animation so the phone has the time to complete a specific process in the background.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Aug 20 2023, 09:40 AM)
So I pulled the gun and purchased the Z Flip5 as well.
Here are my thoughts comparing to the RAZR 40 Ultra.

Z Flip5
- has "smoother" hinge when closing and opening. It feels similar to the old Moto RAZR 5G (2020).
- Bigger and more useful cover display widgets.
- Relatively better battery life - but not by much. It just lasts longer.
- Samsung One UI is better if you are into customization.

RAZR 40 Ultra
- Slimmer even with the case. The Flip5 is too bulky even without the case to begin with.
- Better display in the cover screen. The Flip5's cover display screen looks like a cheap version. You can literally see the pixels.
- BETTER camera. Yes, it's a personal preference but the RAZR takes brighter shots. Not oversaturated but brighter since it has f1.5 aperture.

And the most important one..
- SNAPPIER software overall. It's difficult to describe but when I navigate through the menus, apps, etc, the razr seems faster.
- Flip5's reaction time to my tap is slow like I need to wait for an animation/transition to complete before I can tap the display. It won't react to my touch if the animation isn't complete. To be fair, Samsung One UI is NEVER laggy. No stuttering whatsoever. It's just like an iPhone where they have fluid and SLOW animation so the phone has the time to complete a specific process in the background.
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So moto is slimmer but is moto "wider"?
I only compare from website , still unable to make decision..

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My unit is perhaps.. a week away but I've heard how CN Rom phones cant share location thru Whatsapp?

Uh oh
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QUOTE(fjoru103 @ Aug 20 2023, 11:41 AM)
So moto is slimmer but is moto "wider"?
I only compare from website , still unable to make decision..
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It's wider because it has a bigger screen - 6.9inches vs 6.7inches.

It all depends on your preference. Both are similar even I am unable to choose the winner. It's more of a draw.

Flip 5 pre-order "double storage" promo is over btw so Moto is actually cheaper.
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Aug 20 2023, 12:50 PM)
It's wider because it has a bigger screen - 6.9inches vs 6.7inches.

It all depends on your preference. Both are similar even I am unable to choose the winner. It's more of a draw.

Flip 5 pre-order "double storage" promo is over btw so Moto is actually cheaper.
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I hold and play around the flip5, it fits just nice on my palm haha,
am also looking not too big phone as in just fit nice on my hand/palm.
Flip5 ya the promo over, i still can get the epp anyway

Let see if really pulling trigger then maybe ask for people who has it for yamca session, let me touch n feel it a bit tongue.gif

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QUOTE(fjoru103 @ Aug 21 2023, 11:19 AM)
I hold and play around the flip5, it fits just nice on my palm haha,
am also looking not too big phone as in just fit nice on my hand/palm.
Flip5 ya the promo over, i still can get the epp anyway

Let see if really pulling trigger then maybe ask for people who has it for yamca session, let me touch n feel it a bit tongue.gif
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Just go to any Samsung store or HN and you can play with it all day if you want.  laugh.gif
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Just need try moto punya
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Try liao ma lol maybe if decide Sammy then play more
Just need try moto punya
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In-hand feel is 10x better. Very grippy and slim.
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I purchased aramid case from AliExpress for my RAZR (~RM100 including shipping).
In-hand feel is 10x better. Very grippy and slim.
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So I got my unit like 5 days back or so, and have been using it since. Many thanks for bro ijuanp03 for his guide on CN rom, really helped me stumble along the setup process! I still need to tweak a few things, but so far all my regular apps are installed, and works okay (except for Android Auto)

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Bought an Imak case off Shopee, fits okay, has felt material inside to prevent slipping I guess.. and it has a lanyard loop which I like.

So in my couple days of usage - I like the screen, it's.. nice, vivid and brighter, it seems, compared to my old Edge 30 Pro, at comparable levels. Yes the crease is there, of course, although barely noticeable when the screen is lit but still visible when you look at an angle. Refresh rate is great, seems smoother than my E30P too. Although I find.. the taller but less wide screen not too much to my liking, somewhat. Reminds me of those slim Sony Xperia phones.. I prefer wider screens, to the point of I buy a separate tablet for use at home after work, because.. I feel like I'm getting old and need bigger screen to focus on things lol.

Yes the folding mechanism is smooth, I guess? Although I have nothing to compare to. I recall flipping my old Razr V3 one handed haha, being young and rough I am. No issues there, but I do find myself being veery careful in folding/unfolding it and moving around. But taking it out and flipping it open in front of people? The 'ooohhhh' is priceless indeed biggrin.gif

For the hardware power, I suppose the limitation in lower tier soc and storage speed is prevalent when installing apps, and snapping pictures..? On my E30P I can download/install apps while keep using the phone and feel nothing - it stutters a bit on the Razr40, and snapping pics takes a good second or so to save on the 40 at times. But for normal use - either it surfing/browsing/banking/shopping, it's smooth with no hiccups, and I don't game, either, in fact I prefer the Razr40 for browsing due to how smooth it feels compared to the E30P. For battery life, I guess more usage/test is needed, but it feels roughly the same to me, despite the huge battery capacity difference, I got home every evening with roughly 30%+- battery left under my usual normal usage, on both - plus, I always have access to a reasonably high power GAN charger at office, and I usually plug in during lunchtime (I don't go out for lunch), and a wireless charger in my car. But yea, the 65W charging on the E30P feels faster - I can plug in, have a quick bite/bath etc and get a good chunk of % charged.

On usability - I was somewhat expecting it, but I kind of miss using my E30P - the phone with the Spigen case is nice to hold, just fine in my hands, and slips in my side pocket just nice, and while both have the Moto action wiggle/chop for cameras/flashlight, I find its easier to use on the E30P, yea, I can use it with the Razr unfolded too, it just feels.. odd - I can whip out my E30P and immeadiately do whatee And the feeling that I need to be extra careful with the Razr keeps me.. on the edge at all times. I use my phone as an additional work tool, and perhaps the form factor of the Razr40 is unsuited for that, I feel - which is somewhat surprising.

And while I'm no professional, in fact I'm very bad with cameras/taking pictures (a stark contrast from my brother which is our family's designated photographer), still, here you go for some comparison - although I keep which pictures were taken with which phone a secret, till.. the end picture.

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My beloved 4 year old, taken in my room, right after he wakes up and went straight for his favorite dinosaur videos on my PC. I suppose this can be categorized as low light, being in my room with only light from the monitor..?

Please note this were all taken snap shots - no setting or adjustment whatever, and taken as-is, and I didn't bother with zoom/macro shots or what not.

And to my untrained noob eyes.. there doesn't seem to be a big noticeable difference between my old E30P, which are pictures on the left, compared to the Razr40, which are on the right, plus the extra 'Hi-Res' mode on the third Astartes picture. Good enough for daily picture snap, I suppose. Although at times, I miss my previous Pixel 4A.. I do feel the pics taken on it, even with how unimpressive the hardware being - nicer to my eyes nod.gif

That all said.. I'll probably will use the Razr 40 for a couple more days, and pass it on to my wife, which depends if she doesn't like it, I guess I'll sell it off, lol? Yea it's cool, solidly build, and gets a lot of attention from my colleagues and such, as well as scratches that nostalgia Razer V3 itch I have - but in the end, at least for the moment, I appreciate being able to whip out my candybar E30P and straight away search stuff/reply messages/open flashlight/quick snap pictures without having to flip it open. Some might say purchasing the Ultra, I might be able to do some of these on the cover, but like I mentioned - I feel like I'm having problems on small-ish screens lately, to the point of where I purchased a tablet for home use, and upgrading my workstation to 34". I'm getting old, that's .. for sure lol. And my current life is quite hectic either at work, or at home, so having a phone that I need to be extra careful with doesn't feel right. Maybe when I retire perhaps laugh.gif

In fact this test makes me considering of getting the X40 - till I realized it has on-screen FP, and not the side-mount like the E30P and Razr40 which I oh so-like. And if not due to the battery life/charging speed of the current Pixels, I'd consider those too. While something like the S23U would be far out of my budget, I tried out my collegue's unit and found it quite.. unwieldy for me

So I guess for now, I'll probably stick with my E30P, for the time being hmm.gif But I'm open to questions and what not! And thanks to those that read this!

And sorry for the picture alignments.. quite sure I arranged them right.. if anyone can advise on how to rotate them properly, please feel to do so 😅

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Good that your enjoying your phone.
Btw, why aren't you using the phone case included in the box? I am asking because 3rd party cases like iMak will prevent the hinge from fully closing. It's like your phone is "almost closed" but you can't see it due to the case being to thick that you think it is fully closed.

The reason is that all 3rd party cases (except for the thin aramid case) have a "lip" on top of razr's main 6.9 inches display.

I'm having a hard time explaining but this is BAD for the phone.
Because when you fold it, you are preventing the phone to fully close and also has a risk for the hinge mechanism to malfunction/break.

Just something you should take note of.

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Good that your enjoying your phone.
Btw, why aren't you using the phone case included in the box? I am asking because 3rd party cases like iMak will prevent the hinge from fully closing. It's like your phone is "almost closed" but you can't see it due to the case being to thick that you think it is fully closed.

The reason is that all 3rd party cases (except for the thin aramid case) have a "lip" on top of razr's main 6.9 inches display.

I'm having a hard time explaining but this is BAD for the phone.
Because when you fold it, you are preventing the phone to fully close and also has a risk for the hinge mechanism to malfunction/break.

Just something you should take note of.
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I see. Thanks, but I'm quite sure there is no case included with the phone, and reading around, I think only the Ultra unit has a free case included. But so far it seems.. like there's no pronounced lip, around the display, on the Imak case?
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Just go to any Samsung store or HN and you can play with it all day if you want.  laugh.gif
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That all said.. I'll probably will use the Razr 40 for a couple more days, and pass it on to my wife, which depends if she doesn't like it, I guess I'll sell it off, lol? Yea it's cool, solidly build, and gets a lot of attention from my colleagues and such, as well as scratches that nostalgia Razer V3 itch I have - but in the end, at least for the moment, I appreciate being able to whip out my candybar E30P and straight away search stuff/reply messages/open flashlight/quick snap pictures without having to flip it open. Some might say purchasing the Ultra,  I might be able to do some of these on the cover, but like I mentioned - I feel like I'm having problems on small-ish screens lately, to the point of where I purchased a tablet for home use, and upgrading my workstation to 34". I'm getting old, that's .. for sure lol. And my current life is quite hectic either at work, or at home, so having a phone that I need to be extra careful with doesn't feel right. Maybe when I retire perhaps  laugh.gif

In fact this test makes me considering of getting the X40 - till I realized it has on-screen FP, and not the side-mount like the E30P and Razr40 which I oh so-like. And if not due to the battery life/charging speed of the current Pixels, I'd consider those too. While something like the S23U would be far out of my budget, I tried out my collegue's unit and found it quite.. unwieldy for me

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nice review ... since we are getting old ... me too whistling.gif well might as well ventured to the folding one sweat.gif
waiting for one plus open to come and give it a try

yes agree candy bar is fast but we do need a bigger screen sometimes and i think folding will help a bit lah whistling.gif
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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 25 2023, 12:57 PM)
I see. Thanks, but I'm quite sure there is no case included with the phone, and reading around, I think only the Ultra unit has a free case included. But so far it seems.. like there's no pronounced lip, around the display, on the Imak case?
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Unfold your phone and look at the side frame. If the imak case protudes/overlaps/ not the same level as the display (even for a few millimeters) then it is already obstructing the phone from closing properly.

Anyway I've seen unboxing videos of Razr 40 with the included matte/frosted plastic case in the box together with the leaflets.

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QUOTE(bahjan_2000 @ Aug 25 2023, 11:40 AM)
So I got my unit like 5 days back or so, and have been using it since. Many thanks for bro ijuanp03 for his guide on CN rom, really helped me stumble along the setup process! I still need to tweak a few things, but so far all my regular apps are installed, and works okay (except for Android Auto)

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Bought an Imak case off Shopee, fits okay, has felt material inside to prevent slipping I guess.. and it has a lanyard loop which I like.

So in my couple days of usage - I like the screen, it's.. nice, vivid and brighter, it seems, compared to my old Edge 30 Pro, at comparable levels. Yes the crease is there, of course, although barely noticeable when the screen is lit but still visible when you look at an angle. Refresh rate is great, seems smoother than my E30P too. Although I find.. the taller but less wide screen not too much to my liking, somewhat. Reminds me of those slim Sony Xperia phones.. I prefer wider screens, to the point of I buy a separate tablet for use at home after work, because.. I feel like I'm getting old and need bigger screen to focus on things lol.

Yes the folding mechanism is smooth, I guess? Although I have nothing to compare to. I recall flipping my old Razr V3 one handed haha, being young and rough I am. No issues there, but I do find myself being veery careful in folding/unfolding it and moving around. But taking it out and flipping it open in front of people? The 'ooohhhh' is priceless indeed  biggrin.gif

For the hardware power, I suppose the limitation in lower tier soc and storage speed is prevalent when installing apps, and snapping pictures..? On my E30P I can download/install apps while keep using the phone and feel nothing - it stutters a bit on the Razr40, and snapping pics takes a good second or so to save on the 40 at times. But for normal use - either it surfing/browsing/banking/shopping, it's smooth with no hiccups, and I don't game, either, in fact I prefer the Razr40 for browsing due to how smooth it feels compared to the E30P. For battery life, I guess more usage/test is needed, but it feels roughly the same to me, despite the huge battery capacity difference, I got home every evening with roughly 30%+- battery left under my usual normal usage, on both - plus, I always have access to a reasonably high power GAN charger at office, and I usually plug in during lunchtime (I don't go out for lunch), and a wireless charger in my car. But yea, the 65W charging on the E30P feels faster - I can plug in, have a quick bite/bath etc and get a good chunk of % charged.

On usability - I was somewhat expecting it, but I kind of miss using my E30P - the phone with the Spigen case is nice to hold, just fine in my hands, and slips in my side pocket just nice, and while both have the Moto action wiggle/chop for cameras/flashlight, I find its easier to use on the E30P, yea, I can use it with the Razr unfolded too, it just feels.. odd - I can whip out my E30P and immeadiately do whatee And the feeling that I need to be extra careful with the Razr keeps me.. on the edge at all times. I use my phone as an additional work tool, and perhaps the form factor of the Razr40 is unsuited for that, I feel - which is somewhat surprising.

And while I'm no professional, in fact I'm very bad with cameras/taking pictures (a stark contrast from my brother which is our family's designated photographer), still, here you go for some comparison - although I keep which pictures were taken with which phone a secret, till.. the end picture.

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This.. potted plant of my wife's that I have no idea what the name is

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The unimpressive .. vegetation shrub behind my house

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My Primaris Dark Angel, on vigil for any trespassing.. cats

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My beloved 4 year old, taken in my room, right after he wakes up and went straight for his favorite dinosaur videos on my PC. I suppose this can be categorized as low light, being in my room with only light from the monitor..?

Please note this were all taken snap shots - no setting or adjustment whatever, and taken as-is, and I didn't bother with zoom/macro shots or what not.

And to my untrained noob eyes.. there doesn't seem to be a big noticeable difference between my old E30P, which are pictures on the left, compared to the Razr40, which are on the right, plus the extra 'Hi-Res' mode on the third Astartes picture. Good enough for daily picture snap, I suppose. Although at times, I miss my previous Pixel 4A.. I do feel the pics taken on it, even with how unimpressive the hardware being - nicer to my eyes  nod.gif

That all said.. I'll probably will use the Razr 40 for a couple more days, and pass it on to my wife, which depends if she doesn't like it, I guess I'll sell it off, lol? Yea it's cool, solidly build, and gets a lot of attention from my colleagues and such, as well as scratches that nostalgia Razer V3 itch I have - but in the end, at least for the moment, I appreciate being able to whip out my candybar E30P and straight away search stuff/reply messages/open flashlight/quick snap pictures without having to flip it open. Some might say purchasing the Ultra,  I might be able to do some of these on the cover, but like I mentioned - I feel like I'm having problems on small-ish screens lately, to the point of where I purchased a tablet for home use, and upgrading my workstation to 34". I'm getting old, that's .. for sure lol. And my current life is quite hectic either at work, or at home, so having a phone that I need to be extra careful with doesn't feel right. Maybe when I retire perhaps  laugh.gif

In fact this test makes me considering of getting the X40 - till I realized it has on-screen FP, and not the side-mount like the E30P and Razr40 which I oh so-like. And if not due to the battery life/charging speed of the current Pixels, I'd consider those too. While something like the S23U would be far out of my budget, I tried out my collegue's unit and found it quite.. unwieldy for me

So I guess for now, I'll probably stick with my E30P, for the time being  hmm.gif But I'm  open to questions and what not! And thanks to those that read this!

And sorry for the picture alignments.. quite sure I arranged them right.. if anyone can advise on how to rotate them properly, please feel to do so 😅
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Do you have this behavior with your Razr 40?
1. Fold your razr
2. Click on the volume buttons

Can you feel the phone wiggle a bit? Like the 2 halves rubbing each other.

Btw, since I have the Flip5 now, the reason that it does not wiggle because there are 2 tiny rubber stoppers at the corners of the Flip5. Something the new RAZR doesn't have BUT the old 1st and 2nd gen have.

Razr 2022 does not need rubber stoppers because the border itself is made with matte plastic/rubber. The razr 40 series have this shiny glossy plastic surrounding the display which is similar to Samsung's.

Not sure why Moto designers overlooked this.

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If you mean from side to side at the top when folded, yes. Just a little, but its there. Not that.. I want to try out how much it wiggles anyway
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This is a typical 3rd party case which is "slightly raised" than the display. This is good IF it is not a flip phone.

The reason it's bad for the razr is because you are preventing the phone to shut close completely. The 2 halves that are touching are the case and not the phone itself.

Of course case manufacturers think they are doing a goodwill but didn't realize this can cause damage to the hinge.

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Aug 25 2023, 03:24 PM)
nice review ... since we are getting old ... me too  whistling.gif well might as well ventured to the folding one  sweat.gif
waiting for one plus open to come and give it a try

yes agree candy bar is fast but we do need a bigger screen sometimes and i think folding will help a bit lah  whistling.gif
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Haha

The fold is still too bricky for my use laugh.gif

Further lighter as light as s20 ultra i buy instantly

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Aug 31 2023, 03:08 PM)
Haha

The fold is still too bricky for my use laugh.gif

Further lighter as light as s20 ultra i buy instantly

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The new Honor fold will be the thinnest and the lightest. ..might grab one if it looks really good like the razr
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The new Honor fold will be the thinnest and the lightest. ..might grab one if it looks really good like the razr
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Magic V2 or OnePlus open later to decide
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Magic V2 or OnePlus open later to decide
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Hi! Would like to know what's the current CN set model for ultra40? Is this the correct way to flash to global rom? I'm planning to get a CN set to flash to global rom.

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Hi! Would like to know what's the current CN set model for ultra40? Is this the correct way to flash to global rom? I'm planning to get a CN set to flash to global rom.

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Not the full way to flash it
U need to unlock the bootloader first and to do that get need to get the code from Motorola officially
Other than that need the right firmware and better use a tool to flash it .. I think there is a website of the flash tool packager

Also might be better not to lock back the bootloader .. locking it may result a boot loop and it will be a very expensive door stopper

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QUOTE(ESTDDON @ Sep 5 2023, 10:52 AM)
Hi! Would like to know what's the current CN set model for ultra40? Is this the correct way to flash to global rom? I'm planning to get a CN set to flash to global rom.

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If you have no expertise in this better get someone who is to do it for you. You risk boot looping or bricking your phone.
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If you have no expertise in this better get someone who is to do it for you. You risk boot looping or bricking your phone.
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The risk is there .. even expert also since dunno what moto implement when they do the security patch

But if u want to test your luck it is up to you

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QUOTE(ESTDDON @ Sep 5 2023, 10:52 AM)
Hi! Would like to know what's the current CN set model for ultra40? Is this the correct way to flash to global rom? I'm planning to get a CN set to flash to global rom.

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Please don't do it if u r not confident about it ...get someone expert to do it for u like fastech Lim..even with small service charge

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Please don't do it if u r not confident about it ...get someone expert to do it for u like fastech Lim..even with small service charge
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Last time his fee is around rm20
So since u want to buy minus well buy with him too .. the price is ok also

Not promoting just puting to perspective
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Thanks for all of you for the input. Will try to text fastech regarding on their service. Really appreciate your assist.
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Thanks for all of you for the input. Will try to text fastech regarding on their service. Really appreciate your assist.
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The right website/forum is XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/motorola...azr-2023.12779/

Read ALL the replies and not just the steps.
There are 2 things you can do:

1. Convert to Global ROM with unlocked bootloader
- with this method, you will see a nasty warning message every time you restart your phone telling you your phone has been tampered/bootloader unlocked.
- You also CANNOT update your software over the air. It will ALWAYS fail because your bootloader is unlocked.
- If you mess up with your phone, you can still go back to CN ROM safely.


2. Convert to Global ROM with locked bootloader
- If successful, you can happily use Global ROM with no warning message when restarting your phone
- You can receive OTA updates and install just like how you install software updates now.
- If you locked the bootloader but messed up with the steps, your phone will be bricked. Good bye Moto.


AFAIK, Fasttech will apply method #1.
Method #2 is quite tricky even for modders. You need to change the retail version from retcn to retgb and all those other little things which you can only find if you read ALL the replies.

Also, if all else fails (when your phone dies), you can go to LOLINET and ask an admin to help you fix it.
They will charge maybe around USD40-60 to fix your phone remotely. You can even ask them to do the conversion for you if you really want method # 2.

I modded my phones many years ago and if I do it now, I would still sweat and get nervous once I start with the process.
Modding is definitely NOT for people who are not tech savvy.

You will end up with an expensive paper weight.

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Sep 2 2023, 11:17 AM)
Magic V2 or OnePlus open later to decide
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V2 dealy till next Yr Q1, Sian la bro haha.
If like that try 1+ open or Find n3 fold better . bangwall.gif
Now wait try GT 5 haha.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Sep 6 2023, 10:57 AM)
The right website/forum is XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/motorola...azr-2023.12779/

Read ALL the replies and not just the steps.
There are 2 things you can do:

1. Convert to Global ROM with unlocked bootloader
- with this method, you will see a nasty warning message every time you restart your phone telling you your phone has been tampered/bootloader unlocked.
- You also CANNOT update your software over the air. It will ALWAYS fail because your bootloader is unlocked.
- If you mess up with your phone, you can still go back to CN ROM safely.
2. Convert to Global ROM with locked bootloader
- If successful, you can happily use Global ROM with no warning message when restarting your phone
- You can receive OTA updates and install just like how you install software updates now.
- If you locked the bootloader but messed up with the steps, your phone will be bricked. Good bye Moto.
AFAIK, Fasttech will apply method #1.
Method #2 is quite tricky even for modders. You need to change the retail version from retcn to retgb and all those other little things which you can only find if you read ALL the replies.

Also, if all else fails (when your phone dies), you can go to LOLINET and ask an admin to help you fix it.
They will charge maybe around USD40-60 to fix your phone remotely. You can even ask them to do the conversion for you if you really want method # 2.

I modded my phones many years ago and if I do it now, I would still sweat and get nervous once I start with the process.
Modding is definitely NOT for people who are not tech savvy.

You will end up with an expensive paper weight.
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Agree
The one phone that u won't sweat is only pixel phones 🤣

My experience my moto 2022 front screen died .. since it is bootloader locked after flash global Rom so when flash back CN rom it boot loop .. so sent to china for warranty.. then came back CN rom .. I don't dare to flash back 😂
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Sep 6 2023, 05:09 PM)
Agree
The one phone that u won't sweat is only pixel phones 🤣

My experience my moto 2022 front screen died .. since it is bootloader locked after flash global Rom so when flash back CN rom it boot loop .. so sent to china for warranty.. then came back CN rom .. I don't dare to flash back 😂
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True. Pixel phones are sooooo easy to mod/flash back to stock ROM. Google even provides the tool and firmware for you to flash your phone.

Btw, did you buy your phone from Fastech? Did they charge you anything when you sent back your phone for warranty?
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True. Pixel phones are sooooo easy to mod/flash back to stock ROM. Google even provides the tool and firmware for you to flash your phone.

Btw, did you buy your phone from Fastech? Did they charge you anything when you sent back your phone for warranty?
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sad to say it was not from them but they are good enough to help to send back with a good amount for the fees
in the end it was fixed whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Sep 6 2023, 10:57 AM)
The right website/forum is XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/motorola...azr-2023.12779/

Read ALL the replies and not just the steps.
There are 2 things you can do:

1. Convert to Global ROM with unlocked bootloader
- with this method, you will see a nasty warning message every time you restart your phone telling you your phone has been tampered/bootloader unlocked.
- You also CANNOT update your software over the air. It will ALWAYS fail because your bootloader is unlocked.
- If you mess up with your phone, you can still go back to CN ROM safely.
2. Convert to Global ROM with locked bootloader
- If successful, you can happily use Global ROM with no warning message when restarting your phone
- You can receive OTA updates and install just like how you install software updates now.
- If you locked the bootloader but messed up with the steps, your phone will be bricked. Good bye Moto.
AFAIK, Fasttech will apply method #1.
Method #2 is quite tricky even for modders. You need to change the retail version from retcn to retgb and all those other little things which you can only find if you read ALL the replies.

Also, if all else fails (when your phone dies), you can go to LOLINET and ask an admin to help you fix it.
They will charge maybe around USD40-60 to fix your phone remotely. You can even ask them to do the conversion for you if you really want method # 2.

I modded my phones many years ago and if I do it now, I would still sweat and get nervous once I start with the process.
Modding is definitely NOT for people who are not tech savvy.

You will end up with an expensive paper weight.
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Just to check u all got update to A13 yet ?
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Still. Although I am considering on converting to Global ROM so I can have a decent cover display experience.

Most of the cover display widgets are for Moto CN apps.
I would like to get the official Spotify widget for the cover display.
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Hi all, I’m about to get 40 ultra soon. I have just read through this whole forum. So far I think I’m ok with CN rom as long as still can use the play store and google services. I’m attracted to this phone due to the front screen can use apps without flip open the phone.

Until i read this. Can you please elaborate more on this? Is it only china app can use front screen and not others? Or very limited app supports? Thanks 🙏🏻🙏🏻
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Hi all, I’m about to get 40 ultra soon. I have just read through this whole forum. So far I think I’m ok with CN rom as long as still can use the play store and google services. I’m attracted to this phone due to the front screen can use apps without flip open the phone.

Until i read this. Can you please elaborate more on this? Is it only china app can use front screen and not others? Or very limited app supports? Thanks 🙏🏻🙏🏻
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Basically all the cover screen apps is the same except for Spotify cover widget. There is no Spotify cover widget in CN ROM.
Other than that, everything else is the same.

Oh and the Razr 40 Ultra 512gb has a huge price drown. You can purchase one for ~RM3.2k
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Nov 2 2023, 04:33 PM)
Basically all the cover screen apps is the same except for Spotify cover widget. There is no Spotify cover widget in CN ROM.
Other than that, everything else is the same.

Oh and the Razr 40 Ultra 512gb has a huge price drown. You can purchase one for ~RM3.2k
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Ahhh then still fine for me if only 1 apps. Thanks for the clarification! Btw where did you see that price? 😮
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Nov 2 2023, 04:33 PM)
Basically all the cover screen apps is the same except for Spotify cover widget. There is no Spotify cover widget in CN ROM.
Other than that, everything else is the same.

Oh and the Razr 40 Ultra 512gb has a huge price drown. You can purchase one for ~RM3.2k
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Wow... that is really low. How about the 256gb model ? Any links?

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Nov 2 2023, 09:47 PM)
Wow... that is really low. How about the 256gb model ? Any links?
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Go get flip 5 better i think. Since now 2nd hadn flip 5 also not expansive.
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Go get flip 5 better i think. Since now 2nd hadn flip 5 also not expansive.
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Haha.. Still prefer Moto because of its near stock android os.
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Haha.. Still prefer Moto because of its near stock android os.
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brows.gif But then samsung better since can use samsung pay la and battery better.

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brows.gif But then samsung better since can use samsung pay la and battery better.
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I don't use Apple/Samsung Pay... But better battery would be nice though that will be offset by Samsung's bloatware.
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Haha.. Still prefer Moto because of its near stock android os.
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Moto so called near stock os is just a gimmick. Moto android got quite a bad reputation of unsolved bug, sub par camera post processing as compared to other flagship, terrible update speed and non existent Malaysia support 😮‍💨

The true stock android with much better software experience is indeed pixel series. A lot of ppl even critic moto software experience worst compared to non stock competitor.

The only series they are good at are mid to low range and this is the area where their software support is better because of larger user base. Flagship range just doesn't nail it.

I think most probably another round of complaint will coming because of android 14 soon. All the while they are the last to get the latest Android and apparently their razr 2022 still in a12 for many countries..... Not sure for this razr 2023 in a12 or a13 currently through. I saw someone asking but not sure why his message got ignored.

Good luck for all moto flagship buyer. Hopefully this round moto flagship won't be the last to get latest Android again 😅. If don't mind on software experience and just want to get something cheap for the spec then can consider anyway.

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QUOTE(wolf1991 @ Nov 3 2023, 08:52 AM)
Moto so called near stock os is just a gimmick. Moto android got quite a bad reputation of unsolved bug, sub par camera post processing as compared to other flagship, terrible update speed and non existent Malaysia support 😮‍💨

The true stock android with much better software experience is indeed pixel series. A lot of ppl even critic moto software experience worst compared to non stock competitor.

The only series they are good at are mid to low range and this is the area where their software support is better because of larger user base. Flagship range just doesn't nail it.

I think most probably another round of complaint will coming because of android 14 soon. All the while they are the last to get the latest Android and apparently their razr 2022 still in a12 for many countries..... Not sure for this razr 2023 in a12 or a13 currently through. I saw someone asking but not sure why his message got ignored.

Good luck for all moto flagship buyer. Hopefully this round moto flagship won't be the last to get latest Android again 😅. If don't mind on software experience and just want to get something cheap for the spec then can consider anyway.
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if it is really near stock, updates should have been faster because less fixing and testing is needed. but in reality, lenovo/moto is among the slowest to update their phones.
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Nov 3 2023, 09:37 AM)
if it is really near stock, updates should have been faster because less fixing and testing is needed. but in reality, lenovo/moto is among the slowest to update their phones.
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That's what people always complaining on moto flagship. Funny thing is the update of moto mid and low range apparently faster then their flagship device.

It's like a slap on the face for those spend a lot buying their flagship. Moral of story, can only consider for their low and mid range. Never buy their flagship and curse later unless if they show a significant improvement over update speed.
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Wow... that is really low. How about the 256gb model ? Any links?
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My usual go-to seller - Fastech

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Haha.. Still prefer Moto because of its near stock android os.
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I'm using Google Pay (Wise Visa prepaid card) with my Moto CN devices. The good thing is, Wise will give you upto 3 virtual cards so you can use 3 different devices linked to the same account.
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QUOTE(jintat87 @ Nov 2 2023, 05:33 PM)
Ahhh then still fine for me if only 1 apps. Thanks for the clarification! Btw where did you see that price? 😮
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Fastech is our savior.
They also sell other devices and not just Moto wink.gif
https://www.facebook.com/fastech.my?mibextid=ZbWKwL
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Nov 3 2023, 11:16 AM)
Really good price. Other sellers still asking for RM3.5 - RM3.6k.
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Usually my friend does import set give me price slightly lower then fastech. But yea fastech more reputable for repairs and if have issues. 😁
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QUOTE(wolf1991 @ Nov 3 2023, 08:52 AM)
Moto so called near stock os is just a gimmick. Moto android got quite a bad reputation of unsolved bug, sub par camera post processing as compared to other flagship, terrible update speed and non existent Malaysia support 😮‍💨

The true stock android with much better software experience is indeed pixel series. A lot of ppl even critic moto software experience worst compared to non stock competitor.

The only series they are good at are mid to low range and this is the area where their software support is better because of larger user base. Flagship range just doesn't nail it.

I think most probably another round of complaint will coming because of android 14 soon. All the while they are the last to get the latest Android and apparently their razr 2022 still in a12 for many countries..... Not sure for this razr 2023 in a12 or a13 currently through. I saw someone asking but not sure why his message got ignored.

Good luck for all moto flagship buyer. Hopefully this round moto flagship won't be the last to get latest Android again 😅. If don't mind on software experience and just want to get something cheap for the spec then can consider anyway.
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I got A13 on RAZR 2022 a week before .. not sure about a14
If do the math seems like moto update is like so long

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Nov 3 2023, 11:03 PM)
I got A13 on RAZR 2022 a week before .. not sure about a14
If do the math seems like moto update is like so long
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I see. To be frank it was so slow 😮‍💨. All flagship got a13 very long time already. For razr 2022 to just got it in Oct was kind of unacceptable 😅

Seeing how long it takes to get a13, I suppose a14 maybe two year later considering more new model will out. Moto usual practice is when new model out then old was totally ignored.
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QUOTE(wolf1991 @ Nov 4 2023, 11:16 AM)
I see. To be frank it was so slow 😮‍💨. All flagship got a13 very long time already. For razr 2022 to just got it in Oct was kind of unacceptable 😅

Seeing how long it takes to get a13, I suppose a14 maybe two year later considering more new model will out. Moto usual practice is when new model out then old was totally ignored.
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agree
seems like the testing and bug fixes took them 1 yr to do ... maybe only like 2 engineers to do the test sweat.gif

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agree
seems like the testing and bug fixes took them 1 yr to do ... maybe only like 2 engineers to do the test  sweat.gif
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Lol ya. That's why their forum regardless of global or cn are full of complaint 😅 They sell it at cheap price and never plan to provide a good software support although claim near stock android.

Last time I was tempted to buy their edge 30 ultra due to cheaper price for the spec. Luckily I didn't buy it at the end, if not I might be one of the unhappy user that complaining in their forum 😂
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seems like the testing and bug fixes took them 1 yr to do ... maybe only like 2 engineers to do the test  sweat.gif
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Motorola may be slow in OS updates but not in security/bug fixes as they have committed quarterly/bi-monthly security updates.
I prefer Moto than any other Chinese OEMs with so much bloatware with delayed app notifications rclxm9.gif

Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo forums all over the world (not just CN ROM) are complaining about the delayed app notifications.
This is crucial for people who are waiting for important messages (ex. Whatsapp). The only workaround for them is to open the app for them to receive the message. Allowing app to run in background did not help either. But some people are ok with this bug so to each his own thumbup.gif

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Motorola may be slow in OS updates but not in security/bug fixes as they have committed quarterly/bi-monthly security updates.
I prefer Moto than any other Chinese OEMs with so much bloatware with delayed app notifications  rclxm9.gif

Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo forums all over the world (not just CN ROM) are complaining about the delayed app notifications.
This is crucial for people who are waiting for important messages (ex. Whatsapp). The only workaround for them is to open the app for them to receive the message. Allowing app to run in background did not help either. But some people are ok with this bug so to each his own  thumbup.gif
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So are the security updates are prompt to come by and up to date?

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