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bahjan_2000
post Jul 31 2023, 03:59 PM

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Sooo everyone got the Ultra, no one getting the regular 40? I've been debating to get the regular 40 from fastech, don't really need the big 2ndary screen and I suppose.. less powerful battery + bigger batt = better battery life?

But I am hesitating to switch from my Edge 30 Pro; of which I have almost no complaints on. Switching means I would downgrade the soc (although I am a casual user, no gaming etc), battery, charging speed, cameras, and I suppose practicality/durability? Considering I use my phone for work purposes as well. Also have to think of an excuse to give the missus at home as well lol 🤣

But I am a long time Moto user, and mostly wishes to change to Razr 40 due to being nostalgic using the Razr V3 during my uni days..

Opinions are welcome guys! I also have a few other things on my mind too, if current owners don't mind asking!
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post Aug 1 2023, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Aug 1 2023, 01:33 AM)
Regular razr has bigger battery but the soc is not as powerful and efficient, antutu score is almost 500k while the ultra close to 1M. Based on gsmarena data, regular razr actually has similar battery life as the ultra.
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Yea, read about that too. Here I thought a less powerful chip with bigger batt means more screen time lol. And I do have concerns that the SD 7 image processing would be inferior to the SD8 as well, although I have no data to back this up. I suppose with further updates they'll get better batt life (and better camera images?) though it's not certain

QUOTE(silencer @ Aug 1 2023, 07:39 AM)
IMHO it's the most compact phone that I have ever owned ..and I believe as the lightest too as well

And btw ..u can have more idea about the standard version with the following link

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/motoro...zr-2023-review/
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Yep just read this, as well as from Gizmochina too. What I gather is its 'adequate for daily use'. Makes me think of splurging for the Ultra, but I can get 12/256 much cheaper for the standard than 8/256 Ultra, too. Was hoping I didnt have the downgrade the ram compared to my current 30 Pro too..

Any of you guys use Android Auto, btw? I've heard how CN roms doesn't work with Android Auto for some certain reasons.. and I wonder why when changed to global rom meaning no more updates, like in Fastech listing?

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post Aug 1 2023, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Aug 1 2023, 10:16 AM)
Afaik it don't work with CN ROM. Yes u can change to global if the rom is available in moto Repo. Actually you can get update just u need to change the update channel to the correct one
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Aahh darn, thank you for confirming my suspicions, would be a step back if I can't use Android Auto either, hrnnn

Not sure about.. changing the update channel stuff etc lol.

And for the current owners, can you comment on the display crease?

Initially my plan was just leave it unfolded during work etc, and only fold when I have to move around haha

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post Aug 1 2023, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(silencer @ Aug 1 2023, 10:58 AM)
The crease is barely visible for me...no complain at all
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I see. Although still can be felt with fingers, aye? And what do you think about picture quality? While I know photography was never a strong point for foldables, and I reckon all modern smartphones produce generally good pictures, I can't help but wonder and looking forward to opinions from different users!
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post Aug 1 2023, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(silencer @ Aug 1 2023, 01:02 PM)
Frankly, I'm not qualified enough to comment about the picture quality as it is not one of my priorities for the phone....maybe someone else can provide better opinion about it
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Maybe your general opinion, say compared to your previous phones? 😃
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post Aug 1 2023, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Aug 1 2023, 01:45 PM)
Crease wise I think if u look at it from some angle can see one... Since it is a foldable 🤣
Camera wise I think it is still ok don't compare to the flagship that has a better camera sensor
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Yea, was expecting crease since its a foldable, since I've seen Flips around but no Razr, even the 2022. And for sure the camera won't be flagship level lol, certainly not Pixel/Iphone stuff, but at least I want it to be serviceable..?
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QUOTE(silencer @ Aug 1 2023, 02:13 PM)
My other phone is s23 ultra..so u know what I mean
But frankly, both pictures r acceptable for me ..and again, I hardly take any pictures every day

Surprisingly, my RAZR is my main driver now... because of its portability and amazing looks..and still have 30% juice left at the end of day
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So you have the flagship of flagships to compare 😅 but thank you for your feedback. I am surprised you're using the Razr for daily driver now, despite it's.. shortfalls? I mean you do have a S23U, don't you feel something.. lacking?

I've looked over at Singapore forums, and saw some got theirs from HK, and have Google and Play Store etc etc preloaded. More convenient I suppose..?
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post Aug 1 2023, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(silencer @ Aug 1 2023, 03:31 PM)
Lacking of what! As I hardly play mobile games and take pictures...I just like the compact body and something different..by the way..it is my first flip phones
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Noted, and thanks! I do use my phone for work, which involves taking some pictures, but not like.. I need a pro photo quality anyway, and I also do not play any games - I have my PC for that. Although not being able to use Android Auto is... kind of a minus for me, at the moment.

I understand the different part. Else, its just...another phone with slightly better specs year by year. Always thought by now even mid range soc is fast enough, and cameras being decent enough, at least compared to couple years back.

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post Aug 1 2023, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Aug 1 2023, 04:39 PM)
I suggest getting the Razr 2022 instead of the regular 40. Similarly priced with better specs (bigger cover display too).
Also, I'm pretty sure the regular Razr 40 has mediocre cameras.

When converting to Global ROM, I suggest you do it yourself and do a full research  in XDA. There are several ways of modding a Motorola. Some can re-lock the bootloader and still get software updates over the air while others will remain bootloader unlocked -- which means, you have to manually flash the software to get future updates.
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Indeed, I've looked at the 2022 model, in fact I've followed Razr's revival back when it was announced in.. 2019? But somehow the current 40 model is the one that caught my attention. Plus for something like this, it's always better to wait for several gen, aye?

Plus, bro cruzzmz here said he had some issues with his 2022 and I believe him lol
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post Aug 2 2023, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Aug 2 2023, 08:18 AM)
Haha crease is life🙈
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Yea was expecting crease, and apparently from others say the 40 is the least.. visible of all flips?

Still, bro cruzzmz did you notice any change etc to the crease over use on your 2022? Long term I mean

And since Android Auto is somewhat being phased out by Google Assistant Driving I guess... I can overlook that.
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post Aug 2 2023, 12:04 PM

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I wonder if Motorola will ever bring this in. I mean they didn't even bring any of this year's models in, iinm. Looks atm they're.. dead again, after a brief revival.
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post Aug 2 2023, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Aug 2 2023, 06:02 PM)
Just buy grey imports lorh hahaha
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Yea I think I most probably would get one in the coming weeks, just debating between a 12/256 regular 40 or splurge on a 8/256 Ultra, weighing them pros and cons lol.
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post Aug 3 2023, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Aug 3 2023, 07:23 AM)
If got budget go for ultra hahaha
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Ini bad poison 🤣

Btw I've read about how CN Razr 40 UI is different.. than global ROM one? Can anyone confirm or comment?

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post Aug 5 2023, 01:58 PM

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Saw that live running folding test against Flip 5, the Ultra failed at 43k folds, abit.. far cry from the 400k advertised.

I know this isn't a conclusive test or whatnot, and only done with 1 unit, but, still..
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Aug 5 2023, 02:40 PM)
Actually, the Ultra "failed" at 43k and worked again as normal (the previous issue disappeared).
It completely "failed" around ~130k flips (Razr's screw breaks which I didn't witness. I also want to know which screw they are referring to).

As of now, Samsung is still working (and of course won the battle).
Keep in mind that ~130k folds means you can use the phone for at least 4  to 5 years if you flip it around 100x per day.
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Ahh so it has continuation, haven't kept tracked. Still far from the advertised 400k folds, but you're also right on it should.. be ok for 2++ years. Of which by that time I suppose most people would get another flip, or resigned to bar phone again lol.

Most probably will just get the regular 40, unless.. I get a bonus or smth in the coming month 🤣
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Aug 6 2023, 09:00 AM)
I kaki bar phone since day 1😄😆
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Yea thats the thing, from my V3 back in college, til now allll candy bar phones. That nostalgic feeling to use flip.. but till now too many drawbacks
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post Aug 9 2023, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Aug 9 2023, 02:23 AM)
New software update

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Bug fixes, stability update etc?

How's battery life for your unit so far?
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Aug 9 2023, 11:48 AM)
Still running on China Rom?
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Is there a way to change to global and still get updates?
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QUOTE(iLemonx @ Aug 9 2023, 03:13 PM)
I would say, if you're on a budget, a flip phone probably isn't the first choice, since your concern is regarding the durability and lifespan of the phone which are valid concerns imo. Still better off sticking with a bar phone for that peace of mind  sweat.gif
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It's.. not really budget, just not really too keen on splurging a flagship level flip phone at this moment, a grey import too boot.

That said, I am a big longtime fan of Motorola, and have been watching their flip phones since the 2019 announcement.

Was thinking if the regular 40 is good enough for casual use..
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post Aug 10 2023, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(Alternate Gabriel @ Aug 9 2023, 11:54 PM)
I know this is out of topic.

What the hell happened to Motorola Malaysia?

I searched their facebook page, no longer available.

Search Lenovo Shopee page, the motorola phone is no longer available.

Lenovo quit phone business in our country? I still remembered during past 2-3 years, they aggressively promote Edge & G model.
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Yea they made a comeback like sometime ago, and then.. died again I guess. So far this year's models no new releases

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