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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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poweredbydiscuz
post May 12 2023, 01:55 PM

 
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QUOTE(ketupatjahat @ May 12 2023, 01:54 PM)
Very confusing line. if everyone come to the junction and same time and stop then who go first?
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All three sides got white line. All stop there (must stop according to above posts) you look me i look you.
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post May 12 2023, 01:56 PM

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BM driver is distracted la, obviously can see the motor before the junction. And why so fast in housing area..
Now someone lost a grandma, a wife & a mother ...

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post May 12 2023, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 01:55 PM)
All three sides got white line. All stop there (must stop according to above posts) you look me i look you.
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Means the road design problem. only one side should have line
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post May 12 2023, 01:56 PM

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car driver wrong, if he didn't stop at white line

but moto driver also wrong, cause she also need to stop at the junction to look right before turning out. no video to prove but i doubt she would turn out if she saw car speeding
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post May 12 2023, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(TanahGagal @ May 12 2023, 01:53 PM)
Salah bmw

Dont try to whitewaste the bmw driver
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jgn buat bodo, dua dua ade isuue.

tak payah whitewash motobodo.

PS. bukan whitewaste la bangang, suru berlajar main lanjiao...ini la...

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post May 12 2023, 01:57 PM

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Stupid ah beng with sling bag.
Not sure coz blurry, in 3rd photo, the ah beng wants to hit back the victim's family members

2 black shirt ah beng + 1 girl (I guess)
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post May 12 2023, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:54 PM)
google lah

international school
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I thought police. KNN. Maybe the BMW thought this year is 2018, instead of 2023.
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post May 12 2023, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(ketupatjahat @ May 12 2023, 01:51 PM)
Thats the thing about malaysia road design...suka hati buat line jer but when accident then dunno who at fault
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its a 3 way stop
nothing special about it

stop before the line before proceed

QUOTE(ketupatjahat @ May 12 2023, 01:54 PM)
Very confusing line. if everyone come to the junction and same time and stop then who go first?
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down to who make the 1st move

at that time, the vehicle moving from standstill, even collided will be minor damage
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post May 12 2023, 01:59 PM

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BM was too fast, and I don't believe he didn't see the motor coming from junction. I bet he was even pressing the pedal to beat the motor, but Innova was oncoming, he couldn't beat the time to cut the motor .. anyway rip auntie
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post May 12 2023, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 01:55 PM)
All three sides got white line. All stop there (must stop according to above posts) you look me i look you.
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.......then come out rock paper scissors...... tongue.gif
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post May 12 2023, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 01:40 PM)
I rode bike for 10 years b4 quitting for car. I hope I won't have to revert back to bike ever again after seeing bikers from the point of view as a driver. sweat.gif

Bike too risky, it's like a gamble of life. I've pokai twice on bike, one time due to sand on the road, 2nd time due to speedometer cable came off and get caught in the front wheel, end up I 360 degree summersault and land in the middle of the road, luckily no car from behind...  sweat.gif
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It works both ways.

I started out on a bike. Then drive for 25 years. Still makes me more aware of bikes when driving. Switch back to bikes past 2 years....and from the drivers pov, you know sometimes drivers just don't see you.

With that experience you do what you have to to stay safe. As a senior rider we can see how these kapchai riders ride is just courting disaster.

If a car driver can fail to see a big bike with foglights on, quite certainly they won't see a kapchai either. With these guys filtering at speed, cilok here and there, it's a matter of time they run into trouble.


Incidentally, just yesterday in the rain on my bike, I nearly got run off the road by a kapchai that just cilok into my lane without looking. I was going 60 on the left lane staying on the right side as the left side had a lot of water (3 lane road), This idiot just overtook a car on my right and just came into my lane. If he would have just even clipped my panniers and lost it, he would have been run over by the car on my right. GG right there. Lucky I managed to brake in time and give him the room go cilok in.

Horned 9 him. But at least he acknowledged his mistake and apologized.

Lucky I had ABS if not I would have lost my front when I had to e brake.
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post May 12 2023, 02:01 PM

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my guess is the bmw doin something (could be playing handphone) and accelerate on the road as he see no car infront. Then suddenly 1 motor turn into the road and then kena bang and die cause bmw no brake
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post May 12 2023, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 01:59 PM)
.......then come out rock paper scissors...... tongue.gif
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Not lat tali lat tampong meh ? 3 Kaki mah.
After that rock papers scissors right ? 2 Kaki balance.

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post May 12 2023, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(galkelly @ May 12 2023, 01:56 PM)
BM driver is distracted la, obviously can see the motor before the junction. And why so fast in housing area..
that's what i said earlier.
the biker was already on that main road few seconds before he came ramming her from behind. no way that car didn't see her coming out.
but looking at the way he was speeding, i'm not surpised he couldn't even react to avoid hitting her.


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post May 12 2023, 02:07 PM

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Looks like 3 series 2017-2018, correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe he just got his "new" BMW car and got excited.
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post May 12 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 02:05 PM)
that's what i said earlier.
the biker was already on that main road few seconds before he came ramming her from behind.  no way that car didn't see her coming out.
but looking at the way he was speeding, i'm not surpised he couldn't even react to avoid hitting her.
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I think nobody dispute the fact that the driver is too fast, but still doesn't whitewash the very high possibility that the biker didn't look out for oncoming traffic and just happy go lucky exiting from that junction. The way the biker moved to the middle of the road before impact suggest the biker totally unaware of the surrounding and oncoming traffic.
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post May 12 2023, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 01:48 PM)
I've never seen dotted line like this, is this photo from Msia?
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That photo is from UK. Malaysia also got dotted lines across road, but mostly at entrance to roundabout where a full stop isn't always required

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post May 12 2023, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 12 2023, 02:00 PM)
It works both ways.

I started out on a bike. Then drive for 25 years. Still makes me more aware of bikes when driving. Switch back to bikes past 2 years....and from the drivers pov, you know sometimes drivers just don't see you.

With that experience you do what you have to to stay safe. As a senior rider we can see how these kapchai riders ride is just courting disaster.

If a car driver can fail to see a big bike with foglights on, quite certainly they won't see a kapchai either. With these guys filtering at speed, cilok here and there, it's a matter of time they run into trouble.
Incidentally, just yesterday in the rain on my bike, I nearly got run off the road by a kapchai that just cilok into my lane without looking. I was going 60 on the left lane staying on the right side as the left side had a lot of water (3 lane road), This idiot just overtook a car on my right and just came into my lane. If he would have just even clipped my panniers and lost it, he would have been run over by the car on my right. GG right there. Lucky I managed to brake in time and give him the room go cilok in.

Horned 9 him. But at least he acknowledged his mistake and apologized.

Lucky I had ABS if not I would have lost my front when I had to e brake.
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as a big biker, my advice to you is to always ride with the high beam.
if possible, change to a more noticeable exhaust system. to make yourself more aware to other road users.
and change your horn to a bigger horn. throw away that beep beep, get a real horn. it helps a lot.
lastly, install a bike dashcam on your bike (front and rear cam). anything happen, at least there is evidence.


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BMW minimum speed is 100km/h
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QUOTE(ketupatjahat @ May 12 2023, 01:54 PM)
Very confusing line. if everyone come to the junction and same time and stop then who go first?
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got this from fb comments. very much confusing.

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