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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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post May 12 2023, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(zuozi @ May 12 2023, 11:51 AM)
Mana itu drive defensive/k
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ok i laughed 😂
nanti dia masuk quote grandfather grandmother story baru u tau..
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post May 12 2023, 02:29 PM

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Macam ini ke?

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post May 12 2023, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 02:20 PM)
The only way to "confirm" is to get the dash cam footage from the BMW. But looking at how the biker stray from left to center of the road right after that junction, very very high chance the bike just exit from the junction.
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Not stray. Road design is such that the lane the deceased was exiting from actually enters into the BMW lane which is a Single Lane, it's because the houses have special curb design that takes up valuable road space until terpaksa stray into the BMW path of travel.
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post May 12 2023, 02:33 PM

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Nothing can get away from "hypersonic missile"
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sorry ayam poorfag never drive hypersonic missile cry.gif
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post May 12 2023, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 02:30 PM)
Not stray. Road design is such that the lane the deceased was exiting from actually enters into the BMW lane which is a Single Lane, it's because the houses have special curb design that takes up valuable road space until terpaksa stray into the BMW path of travel.
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That's my deduction as a former biker. No reason for her to stray into middle of the narrow lane if she didn't just exit from junction or if she is aware of the oncoming car.
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post May 12 2023, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(leymahn @ May 12 2023, 02:09 PM)
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got this from fb comments. very much confusing.
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Lol.. no common sense that's why there's a new puak konpius appear in Malaysia.. kikiki...

see green colour drinks... put at shopping mall, sure konpius... then find Fawazz to complain..
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 02:38 PM)
That's my deduction as a former biker. No reason for her to stray into middle of the narrow lane if she didn't just exit from junction or if she is aware of the oncoming car.
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Some bikers (and cars) come out of a junction, slowly and continues to ride/drive slowly, even though there is an incoming car. They expect the car to slow down. To them, they reached the junction first, so they have the right of way. This is very common in Penang, unfortunately. To me, both were in the wrong, to a certain degree. It's just tragic that one has lost her life.
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post May 12 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 02:12 PM)
But in Msia, anything happened between bike vs car, auto car wrong wan from the abang police, so evidence not really necessary  sweat.gif
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Nah, hit by bikes 3 times, usually at traffic lights, always the bikers kena saman, you can even claim the bikers 3rd party insurance provided they have any.

If any abang police tell you are at fault even if you have evidence like dashcam, tell him you will bring the matter to court, no worries, your insurance company will help you get a lawyer.
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post May 12 2023, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 02:38 PM)
That's my deduction as a former biker. No reason for her to stray into middle of the narrow lane if she didn't just exit from junction or if she is aware of the oncoming car.
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I need bro Imp Bron help as an expert witness. He is good with distance, time and speed.

The problem with accidents is speed differential.

The slow speed that the deceased was travelling when the deceased exited the junction, the deceased may not even seen that the BMW was there or the deceased may have seen the BMW but it is too far away. In the deceased judgement if the deceased did see the BMW, it would be too far away and it was safe to pass. Besides the BMW has to stop.

The HIGH speed that the BMW was moving in, the BMW would have covered so much distance in such a short span of time. Even after colliding with the deceased, the BMW was still unable to stop until further down the road.

If Imp Bron could work out those figures, it would be fantastic.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 03:01 PM)
I need bro Imp Bron help as an expert witness. He is good with distance, time and speed.

The problem with accidents is speed differential.

The slow speed that the deceased was travelling when the deceased exited the junction, the deceased may not even seen that the BMW was there or the BMW may be too far away. In the deceased judgement if the deceased did see the BMW it would be too far away and it was safe to pass. Besides the BMW has to stop.

The HIGH speed that the BMW was moving in, the BMW would have covered so much distance in such a short span of time. Even after colliding with the deceased, the BMW was still unable to stop until further down the road.

If Imp Bron could work out those figures, it would be fantastic.
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police probably got dashcam footage from the BMW.

Anyway, driver definitely guilty. But if proven the biker also salah, maybe slightly less punishment if driver got good lawyer.

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 03:05 PM)
police probably got dashcam footage from the BMW.

Anyway, driver definitely guilty. But if proven the biker also salah, maybe slightly less punishment if driver got good lawyer.
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A good lawyer means out of court settlement. Just like the Kajang-Bangi Highway Murder case.

Moral of the story for bikers. Tengok baik baik. Tengok salah mampos.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 03:06 PM)
A good lawyer means out of court settlement. Just like the Kajang-Bangi Highway Murder case.
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murder is criminal charge wor? can settle out of court?
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 03:06 PM)
A good lawyer means out of court settlement. Just like the Kajang-Bangi Highway Murder case.
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criminal case can do out of court settlement? i thought out of court settlement only for civil case
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 03:08 PM)
murder is criminal charge wor? can settle out of court?
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From the beginning I said it was murder and the police did charge under murder. But the case vanished. Until today nothing. Maybe I was dreaming that day and there was no murder on highway. Cash is King 👑.

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post May 12 2023, 03:15 PM

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I dunno why many ktards says that moto dont stop at junction... the speed she make when going into the straight lane is slow meaning that she could stop earlier.... she might going into the lane when she saw the car still far away or due of the white line at the straight lane she might think the driver will stop too....
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post May 12 2023, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 03:08 PM)
murder is criminal charge wor? can settle out of court?
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Road accidents are not considered "murder case" even someone is killed, its always reckless driving, unless you found evidence that the driver has motive from the beginning.

The penalty for murder case in Malaysia is always death sentence if found guilty.
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post May 12 2023, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(zenjet @ May 12 2023, 03:15 PM)
Road accidents are not considered "murder case" even someone is killed, its always reckless driving, unless you found evidence that the driver has motive from the beginning.

The penalty for murder case in Malaysia is always death sentence if found guilty.
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Was replying to "murder case" comment bro. tongue.gif
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post May 12 2023, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 03:17 PM)
Was replying to "murder case" comment bro. tongue.gif
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I see, my bad.
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post May 12 2023, 03:24 PM

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the car drive too fast lah. From the CCTV seems like no brake at all.
The junction also got a line on it, means you need to stop or at least slow down even that's straight road.
6y6k cannot run away.
But the helmet also one contribution for the rider dead.
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post May 12 2023, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(zenjet @ May 12 2023, 03:15 PM)
Road accidents are not considered "murder case" even someone is killed, its always reckless driving, unless you found evidence that the driver has motive from the beginning.

The penalty for murder case in Malaysia is always death sentence if found guilty.
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That case had sufficient evidence for a murder charge. It was much more than just a ordinary reckless driving case. The police are not stupid to recklessly charge that Innova driver for murder. Where is case ? What happened to it ? Good lawyer. Yup more like it. You happy, my client happy, case closed.

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