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 Singapore PR Application on May 2023, Already 12 months

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post Feb 5 2024, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 12:01 AM)
It's rather random, most of the Malaysians I know got theirs within 6 months .. those from Indonesia apparently faster too recently .. those from other countries may take a little longer ..

If you're an EP holder, doubt u have to worry. S pass may take a little longer.
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Last time, my friend applied for Permanent Residency (PR) in 2021 with an Employment Pass (EP), but he failed to obtain it.



Perhaps it was because he transferred all his salary to Malaysia and didn't have much savings in Singapore.


My S Pass is going to be renewed for another two years this September 2024.


I hope I can get PR so that I won't need to renew my S Pass again. I'm worried that the company may not have enough S Pass quota.

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post Feb 5 2024, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Feb 5 2024, 12:59 AM)
Last time, my friend applied for Permanent Residency (PR) in 2021 with an Employment Pass (EP), but he failed to obtain it.
Perhaps it was because he transferred all his salary to Malaysia and didn't have much savings in Singapore.
My S Pass is going to be renewed for another two years this September 2024.
I hope I can get PR so that I won't need to renew my S Pass again. I'm worried that the company may not have enough S Pass quota.
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Is he a guy? Haha .. usually its harder for a guy to get it .. they seem to prefer females ..

Oh good luck then .. hate s pass too due to quota .. else ask your company to upgrade you to EP .. haha
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post Feb 5 2024, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 09:33 AM)
Is he a guy? Haha .. usually its harder for a guy to get it .. they seem to prefer females ..

Oh good luck then .. hate s pass too due to quota .. else ask your company to upgrade you to EP .. haha
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1st time I heard they prefer female.

Is it your female friends get PR then your male friends?



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post Feb 5 2024, 10:50 AM

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what benefit getting PR at SG? maybe can share and list here.
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post Feb 5 2024, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Feb 5 2024, 09:56 AM)
1st time I heard they prefer female.

Is it your female friends get PR then your male friends?
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Yes .. haha ..

My wife got her PR within 6 months, and she applied 6 months from her employment.

Her colleague, a male got rejected 3 times before he succeeded and ranks 2 level higher than her .. but his conversion to citizen was smooth.

Another male colleague of her still getting rejected until today after like many tries .. from what I heard coz he participated in the bersih rally .. hence the rejection

My Indonesian colleague and her fren got it within 6 months. Both female.

A male Burmese applied for almost 2 years but it was really hard for him to get it .. they came back to him requesting multiple documents .. despite he's a PhD holder and currently working for government

A friend of mine got his within 6 months too .. male but he has a lot of savings in sgd .. he used to work here before he returned to Malaysia for phd .. then applied after working for about 2 years

If you have an FD in one of the banks .. shouldn't be hard .. I heard if you have an insurance policy .. the likelihood of getting PR is higher too

I'm also waiting for mine anxiously because we would like to get a unit ASAP .. but I'm kinda worried they may classify me under marriage of convenience..




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post Feb 5 2024, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(tometoto @ Feb 5 2024, 10:50 AM)
what benefit getting PR at SG? maybe can share and list here.
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Can have security in employment
malz89
post Feb 5 2024, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(tometoto @ Feb 5 2024, 10:50 AM)
what benefit getting PR at SG? maybe can share and list here.
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Getting a new job? Get some extra money from CPF? Get yourself a place you call home instead of renting(only if your other half is a PR too)? Medical benefits?

After living in Sg for almost 10 years .. I kinda sell myself to them .. I used to tell myself that I would return to Malaysia .. but I feel that its different in sg compared to Malaysia .. so getting a PR provides more flexibility compared to a work pass holder ..
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post Feb 5 2024, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 11:11 AM)
Getting a new job? Get some extra money from CPF? Get yourself a place you call home instead of renting(only if your other half is a PR too)? Medical benefits?

After living in Sg for almost 10 years .. I kinda sell myself to them .. I used to tell myself that I would return to Malaysia .. but I feel that its different in sg compared to Malaysia .. so getting a PR provides more flexibility compared to a work pass holder ..
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For me that is easy to jump to another company......


No jump,increment low...

And no need every 2 years go to clinic take blood test.


Go to all museum is free.


Have CPF...



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post Feb 5 2024, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 11:07 AM)
Yes .. haha ..

My wife got her PR within 6 months, and she applied 6 months from her employment.

Her colleague, a male got rejected 3 times before he succeeded and ranks 2 level higher than her .. but his conversion to citizen was smooth.

Another male colleague of her still getting rejected until today after like many tries .. from what I heard coz he participated in the bersih rally .. hence the rejection

My Indonesian colleague and her fren got it within 6 months. Both female.

A male Burmese applied for almost 2 years but it was really hard for him to get it .. they came back to him requesting multiple documents .. despite he's a PhD holder and currently working for government

A friend of mine got his within 6 months too .. male but he has a lot of savings in sgd .. he used to work here before he returned to Malaysia for phd .. then applied after working for about 2 years

If you have an FD in one of the banks .. shouldn't be hard .. I heard if you have an insurance policy .. the likelihood of getting PR is higher too

I'm also waiting for mine anxiously because we would like to get a unit ASAP .. but I'm kinda worried they may classify me under marriage of convenience..
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I have more than 60,000 SGD in a fixed deposit with Maybank Singapore.

It has been more than a year since I opened the fixed deposit.

I hope MY PR application will be approved in March, or even better, before Chinese New Year Chap Goh Mei (24/2).


So your wife guaranteed and submitted your PR application?

So far, I've never heard of anyone being classified under marriage of convenience, unless it's a fake marriage.

In the past, there have been cases where illegal prostitutes married old men.


They weren't living together, and the Singapore Registry of Marriages officer noticed and reported it to the ICA or police.


Big news on newspaper.


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May 5, 2023

On Thursday (May 4), the 54-year-old Vietnamese woman was sentenced to six months' jail after she pleaded guilty to a charge related to arranging a marriage with the intention of obtaining an immigration advantage for her daughter in the form of a visit pass.

Her daughter Vuong Thi My Tuyen, 31, was sentenced to six months' jail, while the 51-year-old man she married out of convenience, Hoo Khee Hwa, was fined S$8,000 and sentenced to six months' jail in a separate hearing.

It was not mentioned when Vuong or Hoo were sentenced.

Kim then suggested having Luong's daughter enter a marriage-of-convenience with Hoo, in order to extend her stay. It was not stated in court documents whether Kim and Hoo were acquainted when the suggestion was made.

When Luong told her daughter the idea, she agreed to partake in the sham arrangement and a sum of about S$14,000 to S$16,000 was made to Kim to carry out the ploy.

Both Hoo and Vuong solemnised their marriage at Inspired by Luv Cafe at 7 Canning Rise, where the Registry of Marriages is also located. This was on Aug 19 in 2016, and Luong was one of the marriage witnesses.


In a statement to TODAY, ICA said that it takes a serious view of individuals trying to circumvent Singapore's system by “engaging in, arranging or assisting to arrange marriages-of-convenience to obtain immigration facilities in Singapore”. It will therefore continue to take firm enforcement action against errant couples and middlemen.

For arranging a marriage-of-convenience, Luong could have been fined up to S$10,000 or jailed up to 10 years, or both.


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post Feb 5 2024, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Feb 5 2024, 11:26 AM)
For me that is easy to jump to another company......
No jump,increment low...

And no need every 2 years go to clinic take blood test.
Go to all museum is free.
Have CPF...
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Best not to hop around with a working pass when applying PR .. for my case .. my job scope is rather niche hence hopping is hard for me

Lucky my Pass is 5 years .. haha
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post Feb 5 2024, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Feb 5 2024, 11:38 AM)
I have more than 60,000 SGD in a fixed deposit with Maybank Singapore.

It has been more than a year since I opened the fixed deposit.

I hope MY PR application will be approved in March, or even better, before Chinese New Year Chap Goh Mei (24/2).
So your wife guaranteed and submitted your PR application?

So far, I've never heard of anyone being classified under marriage of convenience, unless it's a fake marriage.

In the past, there have been cases where illegal prostitutes married old men.
They weren't living together, and the Singapore Registry of Marriages officer noticed and reported it to the ICA or police.
Big news on newspaper.
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Should be OK I guess, maybe u should have FD in their local bank, after all maybank is still a Malaysian bank .. haha

Coz I applied PR under my wife about 6 months from our ROM, so they may be a little wary about it .. and I'm currently employed less than 6 months
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post Feb 5 2024, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 11:58 AM)
Best not to hop around with a working pass when applying PR .. for my case .. my job scope is rather niche hence hopping is hard for me

Lucky my Pass is 5 years .. haha
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I thought E pass max is 3 years?

Duration of renewed pass Up to 3 years. The duration of the renewed pass is not affected by the length of validity of your passport.

https://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permits/e...ss/renew-a-pass


Why you have more than 3 years?


Follow exactly passport?
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post Feb 5 2024, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 12:02 PM)
Should be OK I guess, maybe u should have FD in their local bank, after all maybank is still a Malaysian bank .. haha

Coz I applied PR under my wife about 6 months from our ROM, so they may be a little wary about it .. and I'm currently employed less than 6 months
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When you applied PR,you still work at malaysia?
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post Feb 5 2024, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Feb 5 2024, 12:28 PM)
I thought E pass max is 3 years?

Duration of renewed pass Up to 3 years. The duration of the renewed pass is not affected by the length of validity of your passport.

https://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permits/e...ss/renew-a-pass
Why you have more than 3 years?
Follow exactly passport?
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No idea, they issued me until 2028. Mine is a new pass .. I didn't renew it .. I was carrying a student pass back then .. EP > student > EP again ..

I have no idea how the passes work .. haha
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post Feb 5 2024, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Feb 5 2024, 12:30 PM)
When you applied PR,you still work at malaysia?
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No, I'm working in Sg now .. so I am applying under my wife while I'm working in Sg .. we got married when I was a student .. then I applied the pass about 2 months down my employment .. so I decided to tag onto my wife to expedite the process .. however we didn't take the marriage of convenience into consideration .. so a little worried about it .. if you read them on reddit or expat forum .. there's a lot of such cases where they got rejected
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post Feb 5 2024, 12:59 PM

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Your race is an important factor, if u malaysian chinese, should not have any issues. If rejected, just try again, just a matter of time before u get it.

If u non malaysian and non chinese, dont bother, waste of time.
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post Feb 5 2024, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(sawannaibaan @ Feb 5 2024, 12:59 PM)
Your race is an important factor, if u malaysian chinese, should not have any issues. If rejected, just try again, just a matter of time before u get it.

If u non malaysian and non chinese, dont bother, waste of time.
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Haha .. yes that's what I heard too .. but I think TS wants to rush due to the possibility of quota issue
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post Feb 5 2024, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 12:48 PM)
No idea, they issued me until 2028. Mine is a new pass .. I didn't renew it .. I was carrying a student pass back then .. EP > student > EP again ..

I have no idea how the passes work .. haha
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You study in NUS or NTU?
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post Feb 5 2024, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 12:52 PM)
No, I'm working in Sg now .. so I am applying under my wife while I'm working in Sg .. we got married when I was a student .. then I applied the pass about 2 months down my employment .. so I decided to tag onto my wife to expedite the process .. however we didn't take the marriage of convenience into consideration .. so a little worried about it .. if you read them on reddit or expat forum .. there's a lot of such cases where they got rejected
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I thought ICA just rejected and will not give any reason?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Feb 5 2024, 06:45 PM)
I thought ICA just rejected and will not give any reason?
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Wow I always thought u r PR or citizen
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