Are farms not allowed to have a place with a roof for people to eat?

well, yeah. but on a farm land

even business license of the farm owner don't even state camping ayam bet

Hmmm to be fair, gomen listed that area as high risk for landslide. So the question is after gomen listed the area then what's next? It seems like the information wasn't disseminated to ppl living or working nearby the vicinity. So how can ppl take precautionary measures?

if you got it in the development plan you submit to council than fair game loh

a farm shack for own employee isn't the same with building to run restaurant business out of it

people live nearby? if they are not blind they should be seeing quite a lot of land slide every year

the same spot have land slide few years ago

actually in council term, this structure is falling under temporary.

i do apply before hence i know.

even some of the TESCO building in malaysia outskirt is categorize as TEMPORARY STRUCTURE.

All the victims family gonna sue this Chinaman boss into bankruptcy

Kesian all the Abang bomba and rescue dogs who worked overtime to save victims and dig bodies

Only in Malaysia: all profit belong to me, but none of the responsibilities

This post has been edited by sagethesausage: Dec 21 2022, 02:30 PM

oh really?

ayam was told to apply with building plan if my column have footing

tort law is a bitch in this case where owner didn't cover his ass on his legal liabilities

can as long as the building is for agricultural cultivation purposes but the area got limit, forgot how much. If you build it for tourism business then illegal.

actually this 1 got lubang one.

it can be anything as long as the council head said so.

who to determine n finalize it is temp building or not?

head of council and JD (Juruteraan Daerah).

but yeah as long as no obvious n u can convince them, then it is TEMP building or Temporary KM.

very "dark" 1.

but from what i know, whole malaysia not allow to make temporary KM now due to too complicated. many play grey area.

it was begin to ban i think 1-2 years before MCO. probably PH 2018 time.

It's probably used by the farmers most of the year. How do you determine that it was build for tourism and not for farming?

you occasionally upload on your facebook page leh to serve the visitors

Yes. Of course it is illegal.

See whether if majlis so hardworking to come and spot check only.

For example, a shop office (kedai pejabat) lot only for commercial activities not living quarters for workers!

Only shop house (rumah kedai) unit can be a living quarters for workers as well as commercial business for the ground floor.

to be frank, it is monsoon season also.....why want to YOLO at this time....logically they should know better
but everything ppl does there is a risk...even a simple walking on the road also can kena....it is call accident

Shift blame. Sendiri bodoh.

kena masuk KM, bang. Tiada lesen tidak bermakna tiada KM.

Exco Selangor pun dah kata, KM untuk kawasan ini diluluskan untuk pertanian, dan pihak pengusaha juga minta masa untuk memasukkan pelancongan tetapi mereka tak masuk kertas lagi. State gov also confirmed no guidelines on campsite.

A snap on what is in the article:

Tambah Loy Sian, siasatan awal mendapati kawasan terbabit mempunyai kebenaran merancang (KM) untuk pertanian, namun belum mendapati kelulusan untuk dijadikan pusat pelancongan.

"Kita dah lulus Kebenaran Merancang (KM)... dilanjutkan dua kali sebab dia (pengusaha) nak bentangkan (cadangan) tentang pembangunan pusat pelancongan. (KM) sudah dilanjut dua kali...sampai tahun depan. Tapi dia tak sempat buat projek ini sebab tiada kelulusan lagi. KM pertanian memang ada, sekarang tiada garis panduan tentang perkhemahan. Ini berlaku di tanah persendirian dan bukan berlaku di tanah hutan simpan... tapi di sekelilingnya adalah hutan simpan," katanya lagi."

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This post has been edited by Yveatel: Dec 21 2022, 04:04 PM

If it is landslide prone area during rainy season, I don't give a flying fuck what is there. I will not put my life in danger. If you're so desperate for pussy, you're free to put your life at risk for it.

I have assessed my campsite to be reasonably safe based on my knowledge and experience (which isn't much), hence I proceeded. Even so, I still checked weather reports and am prepared to cancel or burn the holiday. No amount of money is worth pain and injury, or death.

Hence my previous comment that people aren't doing enough to ensure own safety. We all know our govt is very incompetent, yet still leave everything in their hands.

I'm have 0 experience in risk management, but I care enough for my own life to learn the basics that can be readily accessible. Checking service records of an airplane isn't public info, but some things are like my experience that I'm sharing. For F&B, if the dining area is dirty I'd leave as it shows signs of potential hygiene issues that may lead to food poisoning.

Yes operator failed to apply license, clearly wrong. But could he have been tai chi-d around by the council as there is no existing licensing? People who have dealt with authorities on these things know this frustration well.
They are aware of the booming industry of camping since pandemic started. If they know, either they have data or many have sought to apply licenses. From news reports, they only start to look into it now. After disaster has struck.

Everybody is busy crucifying the operator and ignoring the bigger elephant in the room. To me, both are equally responsible for the deaths.

Not everybody has good ethics or morals. How do you protect yourself from unscrupulous businesses?